It seems like a lot of men are genuinely checking out of society primarily due to lack of romantic affection. Do Marxists have a solution to this that can be marketed to the modern day lonely male demographic, or do we just cede this issue to the Right as they promise to bring back sexual slavery to appease these people?
79 posts and 8 image replies omitted.I don’t care about women’s social issues because they’re comparatively minimal.
>>719443>marginalized grouppassive voice and lack of agency, you are like the NYTimes whitewashing Zionist terrorists are victims of random circumstance
>>719685>all ideologies and genderswtf lol
>virgin men have been the butt of the joke foreveryou will never be one of Jesus Christ's disciples (because he can sense your spiritual decay and lack of compassion for humanity)
>Women are automatically given sympathy and leeway for everything that goes wrong in their lives"immigrants are getting free luxuries" but its an incel fascist
>>719686>wtf lolYes, right wing manosphere spaces also hate these men but will use them to grift money or further their agenda.
Not gonna bother addressing the jesus comment
>"immigrants are getting free luxuries" but its an incel fascistMainly just addressing the fact that men by and large are viewed as disposable, even by other men.
>>718885>muh dbt>muh radical acceptanceDbt is reactionary. Radical acceptance is reactionary
Under capitaalism "starting a relationship" is just a property accumulation scheme.
What lower middle class men are complaining about is the inability to start a bourgeois "household" ie inability to reproduce themselves as a class.
Look at truly lower class, declassed people and they aren't having problems with sex and relationships, because the way they do it is "improper", as in they never had the option of playing out bourgeois mating rituals + family building, so they're just fuckin. And they've always been fukin.
The barriers are not only economic, but ideological/eugenic: poor & " ugly" people fuck, lower middle class, "average" people don't want to fuck poor & ugly people because that doesn't let them reproduce their class, and they don't fuck each other because the math doesn't work out for them here either.
Everything in western society starts making sense once you realize that "the middle class" isn't the norm, but an anomaly full of contradictions.
>>719685Leftists cannot refute this on a logical basis.
>>719686You’d have to be deliberately acting in bad faith to not see how society is more accepting of women than men.
>>718545>>718885>>719255>>719431>>718455> The empathy council has decided> You WILL be our rape slave moid, and YOU WILL like it, and if you reject it YOU ARE SEXIST> Now if you excuse us, we feminists have some child EROTICA to read. >>719685>>719692Yeah it's funny since they think they're outsmarting the patriarchy doing this, but all they do is uphold it by defending gender discrimination on principle.
Only thing I'd counter is that it's not the left, but the "left".
Real solution is to decouple from those social democrats – (which we all know are the moderate wing of fascism) – or genocide all women and we can become femboys (which does sound fun :3 )
I don't feel like individually replying to every "kill all moids" and "incels deserve it" shitpost but it's unsurprising that there are really people on the Left who think like this, and I naively call these people my "allies" even though they'd stab me in the back at any opportunity because I'm, as they put it, a low value male, and they don't see me as worth anything beyond cannon fodder.
Feels bad man.
>>719700>"allies"Why are you talking like a transwahman?
Tinder but it actually works
>>718501>low value menis a tiktok meme. I can't take people who unironically discuss tiktok memes seriously. Your image is a second reason not to take you seriously.
The problem is that social life doesn't happen anymore for many people. You would not have this retarded market analogy if you had a social life. That's not how it works. To put it in incel-friendly terms, women are also animals, they imprint onto random people for no reason. They are not science fiction paperclip maximizers.
Not having a social life comes first, incel shit is a way to give some activity to the brain centers that are supposed to steer your social life. The same goes for overthinking cringe moments from the past and making up situations to be mad about.
The worst part is that even as I say this, it is fucking over. There is absolutely nowhere for me to get a friend group. I actively tried to for 4 years and it didn't happen. Social life just doesn't happen unless you are in. If you are not in, you are not going to get in. This was the dynamic everywhere I went. And women are scared of talking to men that are not socially proven to be fine by some friend of a friend, sometimes for good reason. And even if they do speak, you don't have proximity for extended periods of time in a suitable environment, so get fucked.
Not that having a social life is always good, dumb workplace drama is also social life. But not having it will make you basically hallucinate. Incels hallucinate hatred for women. There are better and worse things to hallucinate.
>>719765 (me)
Real communists tend to have amazing social lives and lots of female attention, just look up the lives of Mao or Castro. You or I would also have it if we weren't such failures politically. Communists also create the conditions for all men to have good social and sexual lives. There were no incels in the USSR.
I know that China exists, but I would put that under "petty bourgeois act according to their narrow interest and fuck shit up catastrophically in response to communists trying to save the country from a much more catastrophic outcome", there are other events like that in socialist history.
Left-lberals can go vote for the guy with a totenkopf tattoo who supported Azov in 2019 and then act surprised that they keep losing. None of what I said applies to them.
>checking out
so… not working and not consooming? not contributing to the system? and you are telling me this is a bad thing?
in this house all neets are heroes, end of subject!
>>719691Yeah? Because you said so?
>>719510>You'd be hard-pressed to find out and about leftists that are actually misandrist>I'll give you the schizo-posting baeddalists on Twitter and then nothing else.Our very own Gay Misandrist, the entirety of Reddit and Tumblr, lefty parts of Xitter, FB and Insta, lesbian and gender separationist feminists.
>>719765ayo chinlet in your vid is a good dancer, what a chad
>>719510> Do you think I hate menProbably.
Misandrists are seen progressive since women go
> A woman was raped in 1900 so all men are rapist and bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Plus point to when the fags in the 70s made safe spaces so ergo women need that despite decades of rape and crime down. And many online leftist struggle to see a woman as something critizable unless it's margret thatcher which even then they forget her 99% of the time.
>Inb4 homophobiaI dont care.
I'm a faggot, I like cock and pussy, those 70s fags are libs now and so are the fags learning their lessons, they tolerate those sub humans blood shitters that spend all day complaining about men and jerking off / reading child pornography.
Those fags make me ashame of being bi, just as those misandrist and their degenerate allies make me ashame of being apart of the human race – I'll give them their names when they deserve it.
Also, immaterial for the chad comment is amusing.
Yeah they're wrong, but it's clear women are privliged in dating.
I'm sick of hearing their stuggles and Im sick of women always being given center stage of victim hood. They even get this on who "suffers" the most when their husband dies for soke dumbass war – it's not you the bitch wife fucking kill yourself by slitting your wrists and take a bath.
>>719995It's goal shifting, but you could just argue they're social democrats or libs – which leads into a whole debate of splitting up leftists with "leftists"/breadtube-watchers – but differentiating is kinda a waste of time.
You just have to put your foot down, and call out the behavior so it's not allowed to influence others, (this will also drive you insane since depending on the app you'll be one of a million comments).
>>718455> Its all driven by biologyThere is no such epidemic in old good days
Inceloschiza about chads and no-chin-unters doesn’t work, any churka from Central Asia with harem of Madins, or thug from prison, who receives tons of mails from fangirls can piss on any incelgoy. Women mostly don’t care about how you look, if they love men just for it, they wouldn’t set conditions for salary or however. Women love dark triad, alphas. Therapy won’t change normie’s or omega’s behaviour, so you need like in old times give out daughters for kalym.
Honestly, I don’t like what i’m write upper, i don’t wanna slavery women, but i don’t see others options, so i just due to my bisexuality love men and half of my text is my androphilic projections, but it’s still TRUE
>>719699> or genocide all women and we can become femboys (which does sound fun :3 )Or become hermaphrodites WITH THE HELP OF SCIENCE
>>720638>>720771>>720773Oh, the "why can't the incels just go gay or transition so they could have sex" people are here. Holy ESL.
>>720780>771Where i said that? I’m just bi, so i can choose, heteros can’t.
>773Hermaphrodit≠trans, and this sentence also requires ALL people to become hermaphrodites, then the sexual question would be easier
>>720771>Inceloschiza about chads and no-chin-unters doesn’t work, any churka from Central Asia with harem of Madins, anonche, a direct transliteration of such terms doesn't do them justice
also "inceloschiza" sounds more akin to "schizocel" a theorized incel type which would blame no sex on a (suspected) schizophrenia diagnosis but honestly trve avnthvntic schizophrenics often don't care about relationships
le bioproblemes >>720808Sbasibo bratishka
>>718453>So what is the solution to the incel problem? State owned and controlled prostitution unironically.
>>720804>then the sexual question would be easierHow would that solve anything?
The fundamental issue is that the feminine romantic ideal and the masculine romantic ideal are not compatible with eachother in the current state of society, because both groups feel they are being screwed over by engaging in romance and pair bonding has more downsides than upsides if you're an american raised on hyper-individualistic narcissism.
Turning everyone into a hermaphrodite doesn't change the fact most people are attracted to one or the other, and both groups feel alienated by eachother. As a hermaphrodite any woman you hit on is still gonna compare you to her romantic ideal of the 6'3 Chad that is simultaneously a lawyer, doctor, and business executive, while any man you hit on is still gonna compare you to his big titty JAV waifus, and if you fit into neither category then you'll still die alone.
(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST) >>721059i still dont see why we would want that except to satisfy your fetish.
>>720825>USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POSTWtf was wrong with this post?
Anon is spitting straight facts.
There’s no slurs no gore no cheese pizza no pro fascist slogans.
This place really is shitty
kill em
As I said before, just chemically castrate most hetero moids
>>721992youre not edgy man
>>721992We would have to castrate every other gendersexual demographic as well then.
>>721993Wrong.
It's edgy but boring and annoying
>>721982Probably reactionary idpol ideology in conceding to people like
>>721992 where there is no unity to be observed with women and men, though usually this is done through
> Kill all men!!!!!!They double down on the black pill by rejecting that even a unity of a sex (being hermaphrodite) wouldnt solve it.
Or they ban evaded or somethn else ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>721993That's what we do with the males of domesticated animals. We cull all the excess males. And not just animals, thats why most armies prioritized killing males, men are just problem for good governance and order.
Ofc, we can't just kill all excess males, because that would cause a rebellion. My proposal is to make a colosseum of this process. Have all excess males compete in a deadly game, perhaps a war or a squid game like death game, and then reward the winners with exceptional perks like immunity to all laws or deification. With this we can remove excess males, channel society's destructive urges in a healthy way, and the men who win such competitions will surely be men of exceptional genetic health and ability which we can use as a sperm source or stud to improve global genetic stock
>>722109And yet when so propose mandatory health screening for procreation, that’s considered fascist.
Also, females aren’t docile innocent victims either. I’m sure you know how hens treat each other in confined spaces.
If you’re gonna cull “excess” males, you need to do the same for females
>but females have wombs Female fertility has a shorter window and is more easily affected
This place is just pol with smarter people i.e. …
>>722109Leftypol trying not to promote fascism:
Challenge(r) failed
Also let’s not forget that men were the main inventors of science and literature and arts
>>722111Leftypol was built by former 4chan users
>>722110Well, we are not discussing about excess females aren't we? Excess females are not that much of a problem because they are not prone to taking up violence or rebellions as a manifestation of discontent. But you are right that they are a problem, especially now where infertile rich women in their 40s or 50s are taking up economic opportunities and spaces from much fertile peoples. In the past we need older women to raise up babies, but with the advance of AI-driven parenting i dont think this will be necessary anymore. Perhaps we can arrange a death game for them too
>>722109actual psychopath
>>718545>>718983>>721992Gay Misandrist, this is the 7th time in this thread in a row that you suggested castrating or getting rid of most men.
Are you motherfuckers really taking
>>722109 seriously?
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