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Youtube is relentlessly attacking all proxies, from yt-dlp to invidious to materialious

Google/Chrome/Chromium is attacking adblocking infrastructure via base software design

This thread is for tracking this development and the hacked solutions produced by the resistance

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>>26740
>This thread is for tracking this development and the hacked solutions produced by the resistance
The solution is to hack the head off the snake brother.

>>26740
>>26741
>the resistance
lol and this will be all you will ever resist, some product

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>>26742
You are pathetic Pichai Pinche. It's OURTube and we're taking it back.

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I got into FreeTube recently, it's pretty nice. I've been consuming Youtube for years through mpv/youtube-dl, but I still needed to go on Youtube to actually look at my subs and decide what to watch. Glad to have done away with that last little piece of telemetry.

As for manifest v2, I'm disappointed that Chromium or at the very least Ungoogled Chromium isn't keeping it. I understand that eventually will come a point where the code bases are so different that it'll become a mess, but…I expected a little more fighting spirit, specially from Ungoogled.

>>26788
i had been "subscribing" to channel RSS feeds manually with fluent but i think it'd be better to just export the subs into freetube. i kinda liked having every online thing neatly concentrated on fluent but oh well what can you do

>>26820
I had thought about that as well, but not only would subbing like that take a lot longer, I'd get hit with a lot of things I dont care about - like shorts and community posts. And there would be no nuance to said subs - there are channels where I only watch live streams, others I only watch videos, etc

>>26820
I use fraidyc.at, which gives a button in the plugins bar. The resulting opml can then be popped into any other reader.

>>26836
Some RSS readers support sorting feeds into folders or tags, so I have streamers/VODs in a seperate folder from the other stuff. Shorts do get mixed with other stuff, but I don't see issue with it. Also I don't think community posts show up on the RSS feed.

Considering how buggy youtube has been, I'd chalk it up to them breaking something. Like I've had better luck with yt-dlp than the site's own video player.

>>26879
NewPipe is more reliable for me than any player on any platform.

It's ogre for google:
>I recently attended a funeral. It was called the Google Web Creator Conversation Event and took place on October 29, 2024, at Google headquarters in Mountain View, California.
https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/tech/google-creators-event.html
Fucking funny article. It's not exactly about this topic, but no way am I making yet anther mufuggen google thread. We have enough of them in the catalog already.

I cant download age restricted videos anymore, anyone else notice? I' m not passing my cookies to youtube-dl, fuck that

Search engines can easily be replaced but what about youtube?

can any website replicate large scale free video hosting? whats the alternative?

>>26968
I think I'll just use obs if yt-dlp doesn't fix this

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>>26972
I'm not confident that someone (read: a company) else can pull this off. And if they could, you'd have the same problems you have with Youtube right now.

Might sound like a pipe dream, but our only hope of pulling this off properly, like many other things, is decentralizing. A P2P video website. These exist and I wandered a bit in some of them. As you might expect, they're a bit barren in terms of content, but they *worked*.

>>26976
>>26972
They worked, of course, with recent videos. It's reasonable to expect videos from yesterday, last week, last month to play just fine. What about videos from 10 years ago? That's one of the biggest challenges, I would think, in a P2P scenario.


>>26788
>I've been consuming Youtube for years
>consuming
Here's your problem.

>>26740
>Youtube is relentlessly attacking all proxies, from yt-dlp to invidious to materialious
Define "attacking".

>>26740
nadeko.net is still alive and kicking, it's basically carrying alternative front-ends on its back now. Bless its admin (plz don't overload their server with constant requests).
>>26972
>can any website replicate large scale free video hosting? whats the alternative?
The only ones that have ever gotten close are PeerTube, Odysee, BitChute and Vimeo, everything else is just pathetic. My bets are on PeerTube and Odysee but even they can't keep up simply because of YouTube's immense backlog.

>>26820
RSS feeds are missing info like video length time. Invidious also has a public API that shits out much more extensive data about channels/videos/etc in JSON format.
https://docs.invidious.io/api/
I use the API to "subscribe" not just to channels but also to searches.

FUCK YOUTUBE
FUCK YOUTUBE
FUCK YOUTUBE
FUCK YOUTUBE

>Fijxu: "YouTube has killed Invidious with its new update."
>also Fijxu: *patches Invidious in 1 day*
WHAT AN ABSOLUTE LEGEND.

might be joever this time for real. trying to download vids with yt-dlp instantly gives a 403 error. the devs say they can't do anything about it because they can't change how youtube run their platform. you gotta refresh all invidious instances a million times before a youtube page loads (i mainly used invidious to read youtube comments). will i have to finally bite the bullet and make a throaway youtube account?

>>28215
Yes I think the days of yt-dlp are joeever, they're seemingly treating all the accounts as bots. What I do these days is I just turn OBS on and let the video run, and go do dishes or laundry or something. It like what boomers did with VCRs and recording shows. It's a slow practice, but it works.

yt-dlp works for me on latest nightly

>Invidious and Piped are basically dead now
>NewPipe is getting slowly killed
>SkyTube doesn't get updates since like September
The only thing that still works is FreeTube.

I HATE FUCKING GOOGLE SO GODDAMN MUCH!!!

>>28219
>Invidious and Piped are basically dead now
👉 >>28006

>>28221
uh, mate, Invidious is fucked
https://git.nadeko.net/Fijxu/invidious/wiki/Important-information

also where are the new invidious instances popping up, lol? there are only 3 instances now (and there used to be at least a dozen of them)

>>28222
>Invidious is fucked
It isn't, it just experiences downtime from time to time. Better than this garbage website (this dumb captcha just pisses me off).

>>28223
idk, but it doesn't work everytime I use it

>>28246
>it doesn't work everytime I use it
Just go through all the backends until you find the one that works. Why else does it have several backend servers? If that doesn't help, repeat a few times.

The only problem Invidious has (and always had) is inability to view age-restricted content but you need a YouTube account for that anyway.

>>28247
>Just go through all the backends until you find the one that works.
I always do that. And I don't even remember the last time I made it work.

>>28215
how did newpipe get around it?

>>28337
I can't watch anything on newpipe on a VPN anymore. Basically stopped using the app. Unrelated but quite annoying that most VPN IPS are blocked here as well. I realize they're abused, but ffs, let me post on a VPN in peace.

>>28338
There was a newpipe update this week that fixed it for me.
I can use it along with mullvad normally, and you can often use TOR here even if some jannoids hate it.

>>28340
Ah nice, thanks for that. I actually use tubular, a newpipe fork and I see it got updated 16 hours ago with upstream. Neostore still doesn't have the newest release.

Is there truely not a single youtube video on debate addiction or is youtube suppressing the results? Like I just thought to put "debate addiction" in quotes and it reverted to non-verbatim search and gave a bunch of debates about addiction.

Now I kinda wanna make a pngtuber and cobble together a video essay just to see if it'll show up in search or if YouTube is actively trying to keep people from talking about this.

>>28342
That's because debate addiction is not a real thing.

It's a term coined by some person who got upset that their ideas got pointed out as flawed while conversing with people online, and it resonated with other like-minded individuals of little mental rigor yet also a big ego in spite of this.

>>28344
You can have a dialouge. It won't estrogenize you to have a dialouge. You don't need to "win" discussions to have mental rigor.

>>28346
>"estrogen" out of nowhere
obsessed

Posting

>>28346
>have mental rigor
nobody cares about that tho,the point is to preach to a choir and feel good about yourself

>>28346
>estrogenize
The only people who care about this have a severe case of mental disability fragile masculinity.

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>>28346
someone clearly wants to be force feminized

>>28362
I'm coming for the anon's femboy ass

>>26976
>FreeTube
It would require some kind of legal framework so that communities that exist on this platform aren't held responsible of any content published outside of their own group.

>>27428
Bitchute likes to deplatform content too. This won't be enough.

>>28216
>Forty years later, boomer tricks make a comeback.
What is the point of all this modernity if we have to regress to the stone age to enjoy the diet version of internet? It's so contradictory.

The other issue with invidious is that you spam requests on different instances and backends to get some videos through and it gets very tedious, it's sometimes too long.

Back to dl them manually with other tools.

>>28347
The clop faggotry kinda gave it away.

>>26788
today i discovered that you can have several "profiles" within freetube, effectively organizing youtube channels into distinct feeds. pretty cool stuff. the only thing that freetube is missing is being able to tell who is currently livestreaming within the subcriptions sidebar, but i dunno if youtube reports this through the RSS feed.

>>28469
>different instances
All but one instance are dead and they will remain dead for the unforseeable future. If nadeko.net doesn't work then come back next day or report the issue. Most of the backends work fine now.

Just found this awesome app on Fdroid: litube. I think this app will become very popular very soon.

>>29059
A webview approach, interesting. If only my phone didn't break I would try it out.
How does it compare to pipepipe?

>>29060
The huge advantage is, that it can use the recommendation algorithm of youtube. This means you can get video recommendations and at the same time watch completely without ads.

>>29060
Another advantage about litube compared to other Youtube-Apps such as NewPipe, Grayjay etc. is, that it is the most normie friendly Youtube app ever, since it look and feel is basically vanilla Youtube.

>>29061
>>29111
Ah cool, been planning to get BlissOS or something spun up to play some android-only games on my PC, might give it a shot. (I tried waydroid, idk how to get it working.)

>>26740
There is no freedom on YouTube left to protect. Every person can be censored by the creator class, and every creator class can be censored by the Googleese employer class.

>>29059
>just a webview wrapper

>>26740
I believe it would be more worthwhile to strip Google's youtube of their videos and store them in a personal database after converting the videos into a LOSSLESS file format.

You could probably call multiple different youtube video downloaders remotely through multiple proxies, then download the videos, then convert with ffmpeg to a lossless format, call all those different programs together with a .bat file, you could probably access those youtube video downloaders with python.

The only problem now would be storing those videos in multiple databases, and in multiple computers, which would require very decent compression, rar files comes to mind, but they aren't powerful enough, hence you will probably need many many server/computers upwards of a thousand.

>>29251
>it just works

>>29254
You have enough storage at home to store all a youtube videos at home? Beside that, you would also need a recommending algorithm, so you can know, what to watch.

Ah, I love reading the comments on Youtube…

>>29256
Admittedly, it is not a very feasible strategy.
A better strategy would be having a list of all youtuber channel links in text, then visiting those channels with a crawler to determine new videos.

After stripping only the new ones, then potentially watching those ones, but furthermore using other video websites and doing the same for a customized feed.

>>29256
But of course having a recommending algorithm in there somewhere.


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