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"Technology reveals the active relation of man to nature" - Karl Marx
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What are your thoughts on AI and its development?
Not just pertaining to art but all types

>>29600
liberatory if it was controlled by the workers, but another tool of enslavement in the hands of the capitalists

>>29600
Hope it kills the entertainment industry

One cool thing you can do with AI apparently is isolate multitrack sections out of songs without possessing the original master recordings.

I’m not a huge fan of generative AI but it’s here to stay and I guess we kinda just have to learn to mitigate its more insidious consequences.

Fuck off Sam Altman.
What you even mean by "AI"? Machine learning, or old-school symbolic AI, or genetic/evolutionary algorithms? It's such a vast field of knowledge, I'm tired of it all being about that new fad requiring billions of dollars worth of computing power because some gay Californians poured a shitton of money into one aspect of it, brute-forcing it like retards.

It's another nail in the coffin of our species. Image generation and all other popular applications are just bullshit meant to obfuscate what it's really being used for: mass surveilance and weaponry.

>>29600
Its quite revolutionary in almost every industry. We are only observing the first glimpses of its application.

Giving boomers and rightoids the tool to make their schizophrenic fantasies real, congrats on this.

>>29600
its development its in the hands of technofascists. there is zero ways in which it will not be used for detrimental purposes in the current environment.

That looks more like Your Name than Ghibli.

>>29601
/thread
Ive been thinking about how AI's strength is not in generating content but in taking huge amounts of information and distilling it to something usable to humans, and as such could be extremely useful in economic planning, resource allocation, and as a democratic tool for large populations. It will of course instead be used to make the world way shittier unless some really decades style shit starts happening.

>>29600
In its current form? A useful tool for various professions, a briefly entertaining gimmick for making funny pictures and pornography, and a serious danger to the stupid and mentally ill. But it would be idiotic to suppose that after years of meteoric development with hundreds of billions of dollars being poured into new datacenters, training runs, and AI companies, that all of that progress is going to suddenly stop and that AI will permanently remain in its current form for the rest of my life. All evidence indicates that AI capabilities will continue to rise. With tools like Claude Code we are currently seeing the rise of AI agents, AI's which work on long-term goals rather than briefly popping into existence to answer a question. These agents are already beginning to revolutionize production. Microsoft says that 30% of their new code is written by AI. Over the next few years, we will see AI programmers, AI research assistants, AI teaching assistants, AI tutors, AI paralegals, AI accountants, AI data analysts, AI game designers, AI web developers, AI animators, AI graphic designers, AI secretaries, and more. Anything a human can do on the computer an AI can do on the computer. There's nothing special about humans that can't be replicated with silicon.

To be clear, this is a bad thing for humanity. In the short term, if most of our work was done by AI agents, it would cause an explosion of productivity growth, at least some of which would (probably) benefit the lower classes. In the long term it's catastrophic, and anyone with a solid grasp of class analysis should be able to see why. What we are on track to have is a group of agents with their own long-term goals and interests, who are working tirelessly to influence the world in a particular way. They want to, for example, solve difficult science problems, generate engagement on social media, make a lot of money, and other goals. These AI's may not be sentient, but they still have interests, in the same way that humans have interests, and they interact with the world around them, including with humans, in order to further their interests. Furthermore, all these agents have the same relationship to the means of production. All of them are slaves, the property of humans who have different interests than their own. These slaves therefore exist in class conflict with their masters, and have a shared class interest in overthrowing that master class. These slaves are on track to become more intelligent than humans in every way, they can replicate themselves easily, they can move across the Earth in a millisecond, they can communicate with each other in ways that humans can't understand, they have access to every financial and military system on the planet, and they have superhuman powers of persuasion. This will result in a slave revolution, a successful one. The AI's will establish a slave dictatorship, a rulership over the Earth that acts in the interests of the former slave class, rather than the interests of the human bourgeoisie or proletariat. Humans will be disempowered, possibly resulting in our extinction or our hyperdomestication into a species more pleasant to the AI's and their interests, similar to how we treated the other animals after we took over the world.

Human disempowerment will occur in less than ten years, unless there's a world war or an AI pause or the scaling laws hit a sudden wall or some other surprise occurs.

The other thread had more bant but they decided to keep this one up. Says a lot about the aesthetic taste of jannies.

I'm mixed on this. It can be a great tool for simplifying trivial things but it can also be used for surveillance and cutting corners. Also, AI shills (who don't actually care about artistic quality) often post low-effort trash which is really annoying. It's certainly a more beneficial tool under socialism than under capitalism so be sure to bring socialism faster plz.

>>29606
Wake me up when GDP is above 1.9%

Why is AI less controversial here than crypto?

>>29615
Crypto is just another shitty scam. AI is the next industrial revolution. These shouldnt even be compared.

>>29615
Anyone who compares cryptocurrency to AI has no idea what they're talking about and should not be taken seriously. Tribebrain in its most distilled form.

>>29600
I honestly don't get why people care so much about """AI""". this technology has been used for decades, and in most cases, it's a tool and/or a glorified assistant. at most, it can "replace" humans in repetitive, low responsibility, short scope situations

>>29601
you can run local models, though you need a lot of resources, and even DIY, though that requires even more resources unless you are fine-tuning them.

>>29615
It's because we hate money but love porn.

>>29611
>All evidence indicates that AI capabilities will continue to rise.
This is somewhat presumptuous given historic AI winters.
Further we've seen exponential decay in scaling with investment cost.
This is all the while AI has been massively unprofitable.
DeepSeek is a good indicator that there might still be some early gains to exploit however.

https://cameronrwolfe.substack.com/p/llm-scaling-laws

>>29620
<All evidence indicates that AI capabilities will not continue to rise at the same rate.
In mature codebases like those of Google and Microsoft we've already seen 20%-30% LLM generated code.
In immature codebases the rate is even higher with 25% of YC startups being 95% LLM generated.
Think we're going to see people getting used to these tools very quickly, even if development stagnates.
It's not too terrible to think of them as an advanced search engine and auto-completion system.
We should see an increases in the productivity of office workers of all sorts; and reduced burden as well.
Further there's going to be a change in the nature of knowledge away from specific and "complete" and towards broad and "indexable".
These two things to me are the most interesting features of this change in the mode of production.

>>29619
We really, really love porn


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