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How do I start enjoying programming again? I used to love to do that shit before I actually started working as one.

Don't do what you do at work at home. Get a hobby anon.

>>31973
like what? this is the only thing I am good at

>>31977
You need to stop basing your self worth on your competency touching the computer. I find the compulsion to hack on personal projects comes through when I'm on holiday, but usually work scratches that itch for me. If you're not enjoying your job find a new one doing something you've wanted to learn. Let your free time be for something else, there's so much to do, pick something you've always wanted to try and never dedicated the time to. Outside work I dance, draw, carve wood, play music, etc.

>>31960
get a different job? that's what I did and I'm now able to enjoy programming like I did when I was 15

this is kind of a tangent, but it's crazy how many man-hours are wasted on things like internal software and CRUDs that wouldn't need to exist if people were told how to use excel and SQL in high school. I would say a 60% of the software industry is just writing an interface for a relational database over and over again. programming should be mostly a hobby because in an ideal world code monkeys (and I say this as a former member of that community) wouldn't be profitable

anyways, get a different job, something that you don't really care about but can compartmentalize from the rest of your life. be the coworker meme: a seemingly uninteresting guy that is there only for the money

Recreational programming. Being a programmer is fundamentally just a type of artist. If you draw nothing but commissions and practice drills you'll hate drawing. Same for programming.

>>31973
I really have been pondering this contradiction with people saying to their kids "do what you love". Then those kids go with their passions and turning those passions into careers and later hating their work, their past passion and even themselves, just like their parents. Not that every job is misery or people can't do things that are their job or adjacent to it as hobby. The thing is that whole thing with choosing a career path is a scam. Kids and young people know jack shit about work or their field they get themselves into, or if they can get employment at the field all. Nor do people especially at those ages really grasp the difference between just doing something as hobby and working in an industry.

>>32004
“You can work by doing what you love!” is one of various promises about the ‘freedom’ capitalism provides that serves to direct blame towards the worker for their lot in life. McDonald’s workers can’t really complain about the low pay, the low respect and the monotony because they COULD have done something they loved instead!

>>31987
How to do recreational programming?

>>32006
>How to do recreational programming?
You do projects that you like, that let you be creative? Things that interest or benefit you personally. Doing projects that you wouldn't usually get to do or don't make sense to do in the corporate world, or use languages, paradigms, tools that you normally wouldn't use.

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>32005
>“You can work by doing what you love!” is one of various promises about the ‘freedom’ capitalism provides that serves to direct blame towards the worker for their lot in life
Except this is actually true for whatever percent of STEMoids were computer addicted kids. That percentage dropped a lot in the late 2000s as developer and IT appreciated in social status and value, but it's still not insignificant. STEMoids are the whiniest bitches. Wahhh I'm so burnt out doing something easy that I loved doing as a child. Grow the fuck up. I have a cushy job in an interesting domain where I get to work from home and am treated with trust and dignity. That FAR outweighs the joy I lost solving retarded little coding challenges like I did back in high school.

t. gave up on advent of code this year with no regrets

>>32008
> am treated with trust and dignity.
Good for you. I have a project manager so I can't say the same.

>>32008
Even if it’s possible to “work doing what you love” that’s only temporary within newer industries where workers are broadly left to their own devices to produce, if not self-employed. As those industries mature, the incentive to reduce the skill requirement of the job over time reduces jobs to as close to being assembly line work as possible.

Programming went from being in small teams of people who’d been programming demos on their Amigas since they were teenagers, to being in massive multi-national organisations with each coder being delegated smaller and smaller components of a microservices based system, utilising a language intended for non-technical people making enhancements to websites, having code generators automating the process of gluing pre-written libraries together according to the whims of jock executives who were disdainful of the smart kids back at school and therefore thrilled they own them now and pay them way, way less than themselves and intentionally ignore their suggestions/recommendations.

>>32020
well it is permanent in most blue worker industries lol,you're not going to assembly line a plumber,an electrician,even most logistics jobs cannot be automated because of too many random variables (oh my god the package is at the wrong angle,it's no longer correctly registered),so it's kinda wishful thinking for now even for programmers

>>32021
Who’s recreationally carrying out logistics? Is that work people love?

>>32021
bro logistics is the most streamlined shit possible, wtf are you talking about. capitalist progress has made the process so easy you could probably train a dog to work at an amazon warehouse (if dogs could hold things). and that's a good thing

Get into exploit/malware development, it's fun and going into other systems is fun.

>>32037
I used to be into that but I refuse to touch Windows now so there's less opportunities.

>>32027
Logistics is a lot more than amazon packages t. worked in bulk


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