No.201[View All]
P1.
Alright, so I won't go too much into it, but as I'm sure you've all noticed, there is a distinct lack of competent organizations and combat readiness in the left. While it may just be a stereotype, the idea of the skinny and weak anarchist can sum up most of the left that wishes to engage in direct action, mostly by using outdated manuals and romanticized ideas of war. As such, I had, a few years ago, taken it upon myself to release training videos to some of you in order to get you up to speed on the basics of the basics. That, unfortunately, seems to have fallen through on the account of my job, which often has me traveling and doing other things that I won't go into because they are totally uninteresting and unrelated to the topic at hand. As such, we will go into a few key steps you should be taking in order to prepare yourself for introductory training, should it ever be offered to you. Yes, you read that correctly, you must train yourself to be trained. You do not have the luxury of being part of an organized military force, though I would not critique you if that is the route you are wanting to take, as it would be hypocritical. I will limit the topic to individual training, equipment, and self-selection because the whole of military science is a broad topic that is not wholly known by any one individual. Please understand this so that my limitations do not become a hindrance to your growth as a potential combat soldier. Seek training from experienced individuals, even if you have to hide your power level. Consider me just another voice on the internet. I do not intend to use credentials or authority on the subject to get you to do as I say, but I would appreciate it if you thought about a few things. Thank you for reading.
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>>1371I feel like having a physical copy would be more useful for memorising it, also the Rangers themselves keep a physical copy on them at all times
No.1374
>>1372>Get a gun. There's no excuse to not own oneNTA but what if I'm in a shithole Yuro country with insane gun control laws? There's no firearms I can obtain legally except shitty rubber bullet stuff and hunting weapons, and even those are absurdly expensive.
No.1375
>>1374I guess at that point explosives and incendiaries would be your best options. You can't really win in a straight-up fight with them, but they're still good terror weapons.
No.1377
Is there a way for me to save or archive this thread so i can see it again in the far future?
No.1383
>>1378How can i make a screenshot this size and this well cropped?
No.1386
>>1383take many screenshots and crop them together
No.1392
>>1383Full Page Screencapture extension -> Take ScreenCapture -> crop function
No.1432
>>1370>>1374If you are a yuro you should not larp as a guerilla but invest in some protestor self defence
You may have seen "flags" in prostests filled with "guys who ride motocycles"
No.1447
https://youtu.be/uAUcmweiQEwVideo made in the wake of retard ukies posting pics of themselves in a gym, very useful opsec stuff.
No.1448
To summarize:
get fit
Teams of 4, 8, whatever it scales
do this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounding_overwatchyou need $1000 of rifle, plates, ammo per person and at least yourself and 3 comrades you trust to start practicing and it will cost around $100 in ammo for every session.
90% of everything is suppressing fire and moving into safe advantageous positions
No.1450
>>201Here's a question that I have. As you said, not everyone can be a soldier. However, our movement is still going to need things like defensive militias. And as shit gets worse worldwide, working class folks and people from marginalized identity groups are going to inevitably self organize these militias. If you're a communist organizer, you're going to want to help in anyway that you can to set these formations up for success, while also protecting your people. Could put together something like the posts that you made, but for more second or third line forces (idk what defensive militias would be considered)?
No.1453
>>1450Not the og guy but i wanted to post itt for a lot time.
The paramillitary formation the op seems to talk about is reminiscent of the "commando fedayeen" of Palestine and Lebanon but focouses too much on fitness(which is important but you can alter it) and a weird anarcho terrorist tactic of opsec who makes no sense not only in the USA ,that the op posts from, but in any party millitia.
First of all strategy is more important that tactics your force and the training,organization and equipment you will use will be decided based on the demands of the era and the material reality.
I will not dwell on the signs of a revolutionary situation too much ,i pre suppose in this post that armed wings are acceptable in a theoretical nation and can be usefull for a leftist org.
My suggestion for a recruitment proccess is based on those found in lebanese groups and to explain it better i will use a level systems
>LEVEL 1Unlike are fellow(?)travellers in hezbollah leftist already have a basic selection proccess ,the man/women/wtvr of your orgs/party/front are already a good base for your armed group ,this people have a part to play both before and after therevolution
>LEVEL 1,5The able bodied party members younger than 50 years of age ,in a large scale revolt this people will fight, during the 40s in China the average cpc firegroup had a party member as a leader.
>LEVEL 2 This is the people you are looking to recruit in the armed wing , fitness is important but personality is key ,this recruitment proccess can take more than a year and the more time you spend here the less energy,money and brain matter you whould need later for opsec.
So like are lebanese freinds ask the following questions
How long is he active in the org? Is he hardworking? Is he addicted to any drugs? Is he easily scared or too quick to jump to violence? Is he good at teamwork? What is his family like? Are his parents based lords who will cover for him or right wing boomers? If they are right wing can he hide things from them? Is he faithfull to his SO? What are his dreams for the future? (Maybe he like money a little to much) Is he educated?(the higher level of education the better ) Or maybe he is learning a trade?
To sum up: Can we trust him?
Che said:
<If you tremble with indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine<At the risk of seeming ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. It is impossible to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality<Above all, always be capable of feeling deeply any injustice committed against anyone, anywhere in the worldThose are the qualities you are looking for in a fighter .
(End of part 1)
No.1456
>>1453I will not expand on the training
As far as millitias go they will be made up of reservist(fighters who have been through basic training but now continue with their life),level 1,5 party members and volunteers .
They should have a distinct structure, some short of local popular commite , they will be trained ad hoc by fighters and will be armed with basic stuff they need for defence(small arms maybe something anti tank) .
No.1460
>>1374I was asking myself the same question and the two answers you got are really off the mark, so I thought about it and I'd like feedback to see if there's any holes in my views, note that I have no combat training whatsoever and no experience past street fights with the police during riots and protests where we used comprehensive tactics such as black bloc, buddy system, with intelligence, medical and legal teams as support etc. (we should do a thread about that someday)
European countries have for the most part gun control laws and no conscription so people are untrained and are unable to access weapons. What revolutionaries who want to fight should prepare for is the moment when mass movements will potentially devolve into armed conflicts and civil wars. At this point weapons will become accessible trough the looting of military and police stockpiles.
So the thing to do meanwhile is to prepare for things that do not necessitate weapons, fitness, combat medic training, theory of small unit tactics, basic survivalism, how to do urban warfare, how to function in cells, OPSEC, INFOSEC, stockpiling supplies, drugs etc etc.
For actual and physical training with firearms, there is travel, it can be expensive, it necessitates contacts, it can be flagged but it's one of the ways. Say you know people in the US who happen to know about guns and you travel there for vacations for example. I don't know how useful it can be to train in small teams with airsoft/wooden guns but I think it still can be useful because I saw that some armed forces with supplies issues trained their soldiers with mock ups.
Note that groups like "action directe" and "rote armee fraktion" operated in Europe for a long time and didn't have extensive military education, even though RAF people traveled to Palestine to get some firearm training. Although I think this kind of vanguardist - some would say adventurist - strategy they did is quite sterile because it lacked mass support, it's interesting to look at how they formed and operated to know what's possible to do with the right tactics, even though state security services came a long way since then.
To conclude I'd like to say that I think it's quite useless to look at how party based revolutionaries operated decades ago in other continents and hoping for something similar because big communist parties in Europe will most likely either tail or play a reactionary role in case of mass proletariat movement (what revolutionaries should prepare for, as a potential political and military vanguard), and that the "you have to train to get training" sentence from OP is good and goes further than that: the more there are revolutionaries knowing about combat tactics and related knowledge, the faster they will be able to spread their influence and power during a revolutionary situation.
No.1497
>>1448Why don't we see soldiers in Ukraine combat footage doing this?
No.2141
Is there a way to train while having asthma(use the inhaler occasionally after sprints if I'm really bad, otherwise can exercise without it) or am I just fucked?
No.2256
>>1075I think plausible deniability is key. protests are recorded + they run facial recognition etc on them so you are running a risk there. Info tied to your real name online can be picked by an algorithm. A union vote or workplace politics will have your name on it, but it's fairly milquetoast and you can play the social democrat. The "assigned FBI agent" thing is a meme, in reality your biggest danger is any kind of automated surveillance, and provided you avoid that, you should be fine.
No.2257
>>1270Do not buy an AK. I physically cringe whenever I see any leftist with an AK because it indicates to me that said person is motivated primarily by larp/aesthetics rather than practicality.
AR's are cheaper in the US, they will have parts and training compatibility with most other people, furthermore, they are more ergonomic(safety, bolt, ease of mounting optics and lights) and ballistically superior (hence everyone moving over to a 5.56-like cartridge from EU to China).
The AR-15 is the people's weapon of the United States. You will get an AR like everyone else and you will fall in line.
No.2258
>>1151>buy a wasr>use soviet surplus>milsurp flak jacket>ar500 steel plates>STEEL HELMETS>buy a tanklol, lmao. the only thought provoking thing in that entire post is the idea of buying a private plane or helicopter, because they are *relatively* inexpensive (I imagine maintenence costs are heinous though). It's an interesting idea.
No.2347
one thing they say is that Tactics, Strategies and Logistics are all interlinked, where can i learn each of these ?.
No.2349
Should I get a concealed carry permit in my state? Essentially they want fingerprints and Id and whatnot, so I'd be handing all that info over to the feds. But then again, I have a drivers license already so what do I have to lose.
No.2350
>>2349>Should I get a concealed carry permit in my state? Essentially they want fingerprints and Id and whatnot, so I'd be handing all that info over to the feds.As you said, you already have a driver's license. Get a concealed carry permit, and use it! Get something compact, Glock 19 or smaller, and actually carry it around with you.
Nothing makes me more mad than guys with a concealed carry permit that just leave their guns at home.
No.2351
Uhh so I was watching some Iraq firefights and the army was using 50 cal and just destroying the shit out of wherever fighters were positioned.
They werent even aiming really, just blasting 50 cal bullets through everything. How the fuck does one survive this shit or even fight back? The only thing I can think of doing would be run like a bitch to a new location and hope you dont get obliterated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl3HJnFdH1I No.2360
>>2351>How the fuck does one survive this shit or even fight back? The only thing I can think of doing would be run like a bitch to a new location and hope you dont get obliteratedAnswered your own question.
Never engage unless you can win, never engage on your opponents terms, etc.
No.2384
>>1453a good idea would be to organize some sort of "marxist camping" party activity as a cover up for guerrilla recruitment/training. Like, go camping with your comrades or youth league members and see if there is potential to form a squad. at first play airsoft in the woods or larp maybe and then see if something can be done. some pseudo-trotskysts i know go out camping together quite often, for what i know they just drink and have fun, but nobody would know if they were doing something else.
No.2387
>>2386Buy waterproof hiking boots on amazon or whatever, probably manufactured in China. Maybe thrift shops or military surplus stores if you don't mind buying used and wading through damaged boots. Be mindful of diseases and stank tho.
No.2406
>>2386They're a bit of a meme but if you can get'em go for it or like
>>2387 said. I got a pair of waxi boots in combat boot length and they're great.
No.2740
lmao @ larp
No.2775
i intend to complete my higher education, but after that, is it worthwhile to at least go into military reserves? i doubt i can give myself a truly equivalent training or mindset and i cant see any other way to give myself adequate, if albeit in all likelihood unnecessary, preparation
No.2784
>>2775honestly, yeah it's worthwhile, the skills will be needed by us all
No.2806
>>2775Yes. Joining later makes you less susceptible to drinking the kool aid and you can focus more on getting the most out of training. You'll find good people but you'll also find shitty people like any other job.
Military training promotes cohesion, you'll get close to people and learn how to deal with challenges that you otherwise won't face in other forms of LARP.
No.2807
>>2775>should I join the military and kill for the government to learn how to be a socialisthow about NOOOOOOOOOO
No.2808
>>2807Socialist governments famously never having militaries
No.2809
>>2775Mate, if gangs do it, what is the problem of commies doing it too, just don't drink their Koolaid or get involved with their imperialist bullshit and you gonna be fine.
No.2822
>>2775How thorough will inspection of my body be my military doctors? I have a bunch of burn marks (all of which could be tattooed over fairly easily) but mainly I have a significant amount of self harm cuts on my thighs, right next to where my balls touch I guess. I'm aware that previous psychological issues are grounds for dismissal, so I'm wondering if this is something I need to address before, i.e find ways to make scars less noticeable/covered, or if they won't get seen.
No.2824
>>2823
i'm not a leftist you faggot
No.2825
>>2257This is ok advice but not great, I want to make note of the gulf wars as one gap frequently noted in the Americans arsenal was the 500-1 mile range
American assault rifles where incapable of putting effective fire on targets in that range, but you know what wasn't? Bolt action rifles used by the Taliban.
A common tactic of the Taliban as such was to just pitch up snipers in mountains and have them take pot shots at people within that ranging then fucking run, rinse repeat.
Know your enemy
No.3184
>>3175Thanks man.
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Is there any utility to studying strategy as a supplement(as long as you don't consider a substitute to actual training like many do) or would it be useless without the wisdom of a more experienced mentor?
No.4389
>>2806Facts about the koolaid thing, or you get jaded and if you hang out with the right people you probably wont get recruited by right wing nationalists pretending to be a vet support group.
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