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/AKM/ - Guns, weapons and the art of war.

"War can only be abolished through war, and in order to get rid of the gun it is necessary to take up the gun." - Chairman Mao
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Sticks replaced fists, spears replaced sticks, swords replaced spears, and guns replaced swords.
Modern drones have the potential to replace guns as the primary weapon employed in wars, but these weapons suffer from many issues. The most obvious of these issues is the time these things can remain airborne. Modern wars feature battles that remain continuous for weeks to months on end, but most military drones only can remain airborne for a few minutes. Stacking this issue on top of the vulnerability these weapons have to winds, storms, and explosives, and these weapons can quickly become entirely useless for long-term use.
Another major problem is range and size. Modern gun drones don’t have a lot of range if they’re not built big. However, that requirement of these weapons just leaves them increasingly exposed to getting shot down. It’s not just firepower either that makes these weapons vulnerable. Any positive changes in the flight duration, maximum altitude, speed, and the capabilities of any individual drone will see a subsequent increase in a drone’s size.
With enough investment, these weapons should be able to overcome most of these problems and be the thing that replaces the gun. However, these weapons currently are only useful for niche purposes in wars than a true successor to humanity’s primary weapon of choice.

>>5275
>considering <extremely retarded and vulgar analogy>
>won't <counterfactual> happen?
you could have made a thread to talk about drones, wtf is this shit

>>5276
Where tf are the analogies in my post? All this information is objective and has regularly been seen in wars in Ukraine, Israel, and Sudan already.

>>5275
I wouldn't say that drones are a weapon like guns and swords are weapons. They employ weapons. You can attach a bomb or a gun or whatever to a drone and it will shoot for you, but it's still using a gun or a bomb or whatever. Drones are more likely to replace soldiers than they are firearms.

>>5278
Nah. You need people to fortify and secure territory. There isn’t any point in deploying any military resource in general if whatever territory being seized can’t be permanently controlled after the dust settles.

>>5279
I mean if we're casting an eye far into the future I think drones are probably one of the few things that could hold territory other than a human. Station one a street corner and have a remote operator back home shoot any of the locals that get uppity. That's assuming that autonomous drones don't become a thing.

>>5277
the first paragraph. and it underlines a severe lack of understanding
spears were never replaced by swords, and it isn't that they coexisted because there was a gradual replacement, in most cases they were part of the same system. artillery didn't replace guns and aviation didn't replace artillery because that's not how it works. today more than ever militaries are complex systems composed of different interconnected sub-systems

>>5281
Not really. Most modern conflicts consist mainly of gunfights with some light artillery.

Sorta related note, the usage of drones and testing of other military equipment like ground drones, robotic weapons and equipment, and laser shit is about as useless as the weird tech developed in the world wars and cold wars. Maybe some of it will be used in the near future, but much of the tech that’s being developed for the war in Ukraine suffers from either being overengineered for the purposes it’s supposed to fulfill, being hard to maintain, being costly to mass produce and to adopt in modern militaries, or just being shitty on a conceptual level. Obviously shit should change as time passes, but that change is looking pretty slow.

>>5282
read comprehension

>>5284
No I understood what you meant about militaries being complex. However, most battles fought today aren’t. Most battles have almost zero tactics today and likely won’t due to the range and mobility of the weapons of today can offer. Additionally, most battles in wars today aren’t even large enough to justify the use of complexity in combat; they’re just really long and expensive.

>>5282
>light artillery
No

>>5275
Swords did not replace spears, in fact spears and pole arms were usually the primary melee weapon for infantry, with swords and daggers serving as secondary and/or tertiary weapons, this is of course up until guns had become the primary infantry weapon, which also had bayonets (essentially spears), drones will likely not replace guns because of a multitude of reasons. For starters the form factor of drones do not allow as much ammo to be carried generally speaking, it also makes more sense economically and militarily to diversify and have a great deal of redundancies, this way your enemy cannot take out all your industrial base so easily, then there is the ability to produce at scale, it is simply easier to make small arms ammunition at scale than drone tech, lastly you'd have to consider EW jamming and other drone counters that are in the works, lasers and microwave weapons are beginning to look promising though they are still in their infancy.

>>5280
What you are proposing isn't that realistic, obviously the infrastructure that keeps that drone operational would become a target of sabotage, whether it is stationary or capable of patrolling it is still vulnerable to indirect fire, then of course there's the ability to exploit the optics used as the eyes, another avenue of attack might be electronic warfare in the form of jamming or cyber attacks.

I think as gunpowder gets harder to come by, crossbows might enter the meta. Like they're certainly weaker than most guns, but it makes sharp thing go fast into target.

Drones with a crossbow in them would probably be pretty easy to make.

>>5409
mass is important on a drone. smokeless powder can be hard to come by for some yes, but black powder isn't. a suicide drone with a 3/4" (or 20 mm) barrel with electrically ignited black powder could take out porkies and their politicians ez


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