/AKM/ - Guns, weapons and the art of war.

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>>5466
Krieg larp. Fortified warfare will die. The wars of the future will be fought exclusively in tanks and pickup trucks while your forts get bombed by artillery.

>>5470
>while your forts
You got the wrong thread, nobody is building a fort here.

>>5470
Me when artillery bombards your tanks and truckerinos because they have predictable movements allowing us to plan killzones for then

I don’t own land. I won’t be staying in one place longer than four years. I don’t have funding. No tunneling possible.

You need a shovels, big and small for dirt and sand, a pickaxe to remove the bigger rocks in the dirt which stop you from shoveling, axe or a separate very sharp shovel for cutting roots in the way but ideally you wouldnt dig near obvious giant tree roots, buckets and ropes and ladders and hardhats and pulleys for removing all the rocks and dirt, if youre throwing rocks out of the hole, call out first, If youre lifting rocks out of the hole with a pully get out of the hole first. Reinforce the walls and roof of the tunnels with something, make the tunnels a oval or circle shape to help it not cave in. Its going to get really cold down there so get some wooden or plastic chairs / beds that are up off the ground or it will suck the heat out of your body and kill you, rain flooding and drainage and pests are other considerations to think about, tape up your boots around your ankles or youll get sand in them all day. I had a ton of fun digging a 5 foot wide 15 foot hole deep in my buddies backyard in south California summer time and I swear to god I got so cold down there. They say its a constant 54 degrees F I think? Men love digging for some reason I'd totally do it all over again just for fun.

Risk: Flood the tunnel
Countermeasure: Insert floor gaps for water to exit. Don't make it water tight.

Risk: Ground Penetrators.
Countermeasure: Windy tunnels, blast doors. Valves.

Risk: Concrete that is harder than ground but softer than concrete.
Countermeasure: Just keep digging.

Risk: Synthetic Aperture Radar and Wide Area Motion Imagery notice your release of mined material.
Countermeasure: Do it in bad weather in deniable ways. Grind everything up first.

Risk: Soil Testing validates that mined material has been released here.
Countermeasure: Mix it up. Scatter lightly?

Risk: Drill one 3 inch hunting hole every 2 ft to find tunnels.
Countermeasure: Don't dig to invade.

Risk: Militaries dig hunting holes based on Human Intelligence to find tunnels.
Countermeasure: Tell no one.

Risk: Tunnel Dogs will scope out tunnels.
Countermeasure: Active countermeasures

Question for the reader: Do you build the common massive decentralized network of tunnels so vast and interconnected that you can go anywhere and do anything OR do you build private secrete one person deep concealed storage and operations for bombing protection?
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Hard reality:
1. If you try tunneling and releasing mined material in a major metro, you will be seen by lots of cameras and will draw lots of attention.
2. Once tunneling starts, governments will be on the lookout for tunneling. This means supplies, phones that disappear and reappear, ground penetrating radar, social media activity (diggy hole song), etc.
3. The hard reality of tunneling is that every secret tunnel must arrive onto a non-secret building or a non-secret section of ground. How are you going to get into your secret tunnel? Any proletariat action in a capitalist country is going to happen in a metropolitan area, not a rural area. Most of us live in apartments on like the third floor. Most of us are in no position to start tunneling in a way that is significant.
4. All tunnels will be discovered. Will it be discovered when you move? Will your landlord discover it and evict you? Will you become TikTok Famous in a bad way, remember the hatred TikTok Tunnel Lady faced, https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nqXgbLjW1ho ). You will experience even worse hatred as TTTL (Tik Tok Tunnel Lady) was doing it for the love of the game while you will be doing it for praxis. The right will loose its absolute mind when it finds "woke left is digging tunnels".

My Personal View: The moment you start digging a tunnel, you are engaging in something deeply illegal. It will end with either a no knock raid or a shootout with some agency. You won't be able to control when the engagement happens unless you make the first move, in which case a tunnel won't help you.

Notice: OSM Image randomly chosen. High density reality is important to share.

>>6102
Clarification: I posted an OSM Image at random. The goal is to say, you won't be digging in rural nowhereville. You will be digging in big city where 80% of the surface is building or road.

>>6102
Is there any way we could use GPR to our advantage? Tunnels already exist under cities, from sewers to weirder stuff. We need to either avoid them or use them as existing infrastructure to expand on. Also there's really no way to defeat GPR, it can now penetrate up to 100ft, which is first of all way too deep (every entrance from a building would require an elevator or very long sloped descent), and they would be able to see the entrance points anyways, just not a whole map of the tunnel system.

Also how would we get rid of mined material? The best civilian vehicle for the job is a pickup but they don't hold very much, progress would be super slow that way. Anything larger, or constant revolving pickups, would draw attention.

I think the only answer to all of these is that tunnels are only viable in communities that can resist surveillance, or which are already functionally independent, making surveillance useless in the short term. Even if they can map the tunnels, tunnels help mask movement, hide from bombs, and could house facilities for weapons production