>>22594Fire Punch is the best thing Fujimoto ever wrote.
Chainsaw man covers similar themes but has more mass market appeal, and is worse for it.
Reading CSM 2 feels like an editor has a gun to his head.
All of his assistants' manga capture only the wackiness and none of the substance.
>>22617 could you tell what was wrong with the way that guy directed?
>>22617hmm imo the action cut scenes werent that bad, its just the lighting and framing decisions were questionable. with the newly added scenes like the drunk himeko scene, it seemed to have a good grasp of both, but in the Makima train scene, all of that seemed to go straight out the fucking window. like it seemed inconsistent
>>22625By his own words he tried to make Chainsaw Man look cinematic while having an incredibly narrow sense of what "cinematic" means so he failed to capture the appeal of the manga, despite some scenes here and there being very good. The manga has a lot of expressiveness in characters and the volume covers as well as any colored art Fujimoto put out had very striking and stylized colors, the anime had limited expressions to be more "realistic" and had very mono colors because only action movies are cinema, duh.
>>22617It's funny to see all the "Of course Chainsaw Man flopped in Japan, the japanese only like pedo pandering shit!" posts about the anime sales since the Manga was (and still is) very popular in Japan. Its almost as if the way they adapted the series just didn't resonate over there!
>>22617Very much doubt that they'll just walk back the sort of aesthetic S1 had, after all Mappa clearly believed in it too and you can't just have entries that are totally different visually. If nothing else maybe they'll give it a bit of flair for the fights. If it sucks I'll stop bothering with Chainsaw Man adaptations.
>>22632Didn’t Mappa animate attack on titan’s last seasons? The artstyle shift was pretty noticeable in that one. Same thing with jjk s2, which sometimes even had some stylistic shifts during fights. It probably all depends on the team and director, wether or not s2 will be too different from s1.
I just realized something. CSM is basically Scott Pilgrim with demons and the protagonist not getting laid. If it was more like Scott Pilgrim Denji would be getting laid no problem.
>>22763>CSM is basically Scott Pilgrim with demonsHow so
>>22763also the main guy is not a pedophile! small difference tho
>>22765Socially awkward guy meets emotionally cold girl and tries to win her heart throughout the entire run.
>>22770A "pedophile" as in "dating one girl who's a year a year before the age of majority for a short time without even as much as kissing her while otherwise having relationships with adult women."
>>22771 (me)
Also a reminder that Scott was basically friendzoning Knives the entire time while she tried to force herself upon him without his consent
TWICE out of jealousy for Ramona. But if that counts…
>>22771>Socially awkward guy meets emotionally cold girl and tries to win her heart throughout the entire run.So nothing at all alike.
>>22787I said it reminded me of that. Specifically the romance part and how it connects to all the action. But otherwise you're right.
my dude denji has hit another low will they recover
>>22835our son was born to suffer
>>22835I have feeling it will go the way firepunch did. Maybe a bit more wholesome and less edgy.
< Fujimoto needs to write something like Fire Punch again as a sort of “rent lowering gunshots” for his fandom
I think the plot of Chainsaw Man is ass and the characters are too… BUT the fight scenes are metal as fuck NGL.
>>24360The fight scenes are incredibly short each time (that's what makes them good).
>>24363Yeah, basically this
>>24378I like how Fujimoto made sure to display how even in an apocalyptic scenario the capitalist system still tries to keep on going and that people are so alienated that they care more about some dumbass celebrity rather then the fact that there is a zombie apocalypse going on.
>>24531>>24378What the fuck is even going on here?
>>24534Honestly I'm kind of getting a similar vibe from it too. CSM's world is an openly cynical one full of utterly brain-broken people
>>24562The media and public at large are like this is because devils get stronger with fear. It might also be intended as le social critik but the main reason is that. Honestly I'm glad the comic is seemingly back to being unhinged.
>>24564I really want to write a Chainsaw Man fanficiton in which the rules are changed a little bit regarding the function of devils to not just be representations of fears but also more like physical manifestations of various parts of the social superstructure. A such, the increase of devil violence is literally a mirror for capitalist crisis and the sharpening of class struggle in this alternate history where the USSR continued to exist.
The Commodity Devil profanes all things holy, melting everything that appears solid into air.
The Collectivisation Devil is a capitalist's worst fear, making people around it unable to identify the abstract exchange value in commodities.
The Ghost of Lenin is a literal spectre haunting the world, a shadow of generations of martyrs past.
Silly little things like that.
>>24564I am fairly sure I remember it was at some point explicitly stated that the authorities are censoring Devil incidents in order to keep their power in check.
Communism that doesn't include devils is revisionist and counterrevolutionary.
Communism that doesn't include devils is revisionist and counterrevolutionary.
>>24573I think Fujimoto is trying to comment on the tendency of people ignoring their problems. It doesn’t exactly seem like the whole censorship thing is actually helping, 7 out of 20 people die due to devil attacks. Ignoring shit doesn’t actually help, people are just keeping their emotions and true feeling hidden. And the death devils seems to be coming whether or not the censorship stays.
>>24564Somehow of all the deranged things the past few chapters have thrown at me, the panels of Famine just clamly gorging herself on any food she can find with her bare hands is somehow the most deviant thing in there. Real David Lynch shit
>>25153God, they're both so stupid. They're perfect for each other.
>>25153The best part is they're both traumatized, denji freezes up when he's being abused, and Yoru has stated that she can't control Asa when Asa is terrified, which is why the scene ends with Asa back in control.
Nobody's having fun, sasuga Fujimoto sensei
>>25153>>25166>>25181>>25185What's so special about that chapter? I was hoping they would cut Denji's dick off to force him to have more interesting motivations. People are tripping thinking Chainsaw Man 2 is getting good.
>>25222It's not for you then.
>>25222I personally think that this is an ok chapter that can become “better” If fujimoto does something interesting with what happened in it.
I like the new chapter, the choice of clothing on denji seems to be intentional referencing the moment in csm 1 with makima in which she asked denji wether or not he deserved happiness. I hope my goat manages to get himself a happy life away from all the abuse.
Asa-chan entering her slut era.
>>25222>force him to have more interesting motivationsThe way I read it, Denji doesn't
actually think with only his dick but rather it's a very base constant motivation he can fall back on as an excuse instead of doing the hard work of introspection and understanding himself. It's a cop out basically. None of the women have filled the gap in his soul with sex and I think that the lesson is that sex simply
cannot.
>>25238He's an impoverished teenage boy with no good role models, no real support network, and that has been basically lurching from one deeply traumatic disaster to the next, while also now having to deal with high school and being a single father. At this point I don't think he's capable of introspection even if he tried since he was willing to give up his free will to Makima.
I think you could say that it's a manifestation of how badly he's been hurt that he's regressed to the point of wanting to do anything but think, and so he's taken refuge in thoughtless activities and his creature impulses.
>>25240>At this point I don't think he's capable of introspection even if he tried>he's taken refuge in thoughtless activities and his creature impulsesYeah solid agree. If it wasn't getting laid, it's be something equally mundane. I'm hoping that the direction the series goes is having Dennis coming to self actualization in a stupid roundabout way that he is not exactly consciously aware of.
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