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 No.1993[View All]

Just give me your anime hot takes. I don't care if they're retarded.
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 No.4773

Naruto is actually great until the last few arcs. After Sasuke vs Itachi the series went downhill fast.
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 No.4774

>>4773
I thin shit went downhill after the 5-kage summit IMO. Pain Arc was fucking kino and between Jiraiya's final mission, Naruto's sage training, the Pain attack and the final confrontation of Nagato and Naruto, it was top-tier stuff.
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 No.4776

>>4774
I can see that argument. My main problem with the Pain arc is the ending when Naruto beat Nagato with talk-no-jutsu, everything before that was quality.
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 No.4778

>>4749
and without the shitty speedlines so all shounen get legitimized kek
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 No.4779

Goblin Slayer is Leftist.
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 No.4781

>>4776
People keep talking bout talk-no-jutsu like it's a bad thing and forget that Naruto never just talks, he beats the shit outta them first.
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 No.5066

>>2526
I forgot to talk about the final feats before the 100 Year Quest sequel Erza pulls off a one-handed jump into the stratosphere to cut a meteor to pieces all while magically exhausted and with busted limbs… it is the most transparent attempt at one-upping War-Arc Naruto feats that I had to laugh. Even fans of the series couldn't take it seriously.

TL;DR: All of Erza's bones were broken, and she destroyed a meteor with her sword, while performing a Saitama-tier jump.

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1586212&show=20
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 No.5136

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Does anyone think Killing Bites is massively over-rated on /a/? Like the hype has died now, but last year the threads were going like fucking wild-fire about how awesome and bloody it was and how it was totally DEEEEEEP and cool. Like the idea of people selling their bodies to be experimented on and turned into animal-mutants to fight gladiator battles is quite dystopian (its actually an idea I also had years before the manga was even started). However its such a background thing to the weird bloodlust, that is reminiscent of Berserk, yet does little to actually give proper motivations. The loss of limbs being trivially re-attached makes sense in the context of the technology, however it lacks the detail and struggle that a show like Evangelion had when an EVA gutted or tore apart the more humanoid Angels. The animal fact abilities are taken way too literally which makes it weird given the whole emphasis on biological closeness and belongs more in a show like Shiiton Gakuen than on Killing Bites.Over-all its just a spectacle of blood pinatas with animal features slapped in, and a shallow attempt at dystopian background added in.

The anime is slightly better because it adds in a lot of fluffy filler material that ironically fleshes it out a bit more.
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 No.5145

>>4779
a wrong take is not a hot take newfriend. goblin slayer is a reactionary exploitation series in the spirit of death wish

that's where the fun is
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 No.5147

>>4319
if you're open to broadening your horizons you can start sampling some donghua (chinese anime). for some reason they ooze with homo vibes
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 No.5149

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>>1993
1. "Japan is the most superior country desu!"
2. "It's Inch! Not Ichi!" (mispronouncing "one" in Japanese)
3. "It's DE-SOO! NOT DESS!"
4. "You're a fake Asian if you're not Japanese, you bakas!"
5. "Japan is the only real Asian country there is!"
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 No.5188

I think that the Japanese government has control on certain types of anime like ones that glorify the highschool setting.
It feels like it's just used to indoctrinate the youth into keeping the status quo going and to never question authority.
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 No.5189

>>5188
In short, anime is inherently fascistic. Better to realize that late than never
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 No.5223

>>1995
Speaking of Naruto fights, something people like to do are VS battles and other stuff - pitting 1 character or group of characters against another. Part of this is, of course power scaling, statements, feats and calcs. This harks back to power levels in DBZ and other media.
Among the common issues of such debates are inconsistencies in a narrative or a character
- PIS = Plot Induced Stupidity, this is when something happens because of plot i.e. Goku getting a sudden power up for no reason
- WIS = Writer Induced Stupidity i.e. Batman KO's superman with a single punch. No other reason is present other than it being batman.
- CIS = Character Induced Stupidity, basically things that happen because of a characters personality. i.e. Flash getting tagged 99% of the time by very slower opponents aka street level guys.
- Gag feats i.e. A character having a huge head or a loud sonic scream for a joke
However one of the biggest problems is that a lot of people take DBZ type power scaling (something also seen in Yu Yu Hakusho with Demon ranks) and apply it to all fandoms, regardless of the type of media. In Fairy Tail, Boku no Hero, One Piece and Naruto there are limitations or complexities 0 power alone has to be significant to make an impact.

Naruto does this really well for a large portion of the story. The 5 elements are set up in such a way that one counters or assists another - wind beats lightning, water beats fire and so on. And then different elements can combine to synchronize; wind empowers fire or kekkei genkai like ice release (water + wind) - and thus, as mastery of all elements was rare, one ninja's strength was another's weakness and vice versa. Moreover Genjutsu, Ninjutsu and Taijutsu focuses meant that masters of one art could be vulnerable to others.

Problem is due to how flashy and powerful one character may seem, another character that ought to be able to beat them due to skill differences is disregarded.

An example of this is the 4th Raikage. Often when compared to someone like Jiraiya, people seem to assume the Raikage would win mid-low diff. The problem is that Jiraiya ought to be a rather good counter to the Raikage - though not quite a hard counter like Kisame was to Killer Bee - mid-diffing him instead.
The feats/statements are what is usually looked at, but lacks important info. The most important part is styles. The Raikage uses Nin-taijutsu, which is why he is backed up by Darui and Cee, to handle long-range combat and genjutsu. His lightning armor defends him against most attacks and boosts his speed to lightning levels, allowing ordinary strong blows become bludgeons with cutting, electrifying ability. Still, he is a close-range fighter
Jiraiya specializes in ninjutsu and a firm taijutsu to back that up. Immobilization and long-range striking would therefore be a major option Example: Swamp of the Underworld, while vulnerable to lightning jutsu, (lightning > earth) would slow done or even halt the Raikage, as it is essentially a bottomless pit capable of swallowing up titanic snakes even when Jiraiya was drugged and weak. Blasting through it would hinder the Raikage's movements and expose him to follow-up strikes - such as a giant rasengan.
This is important because stat-wise Jiraiya matches the Raikage in pure physicals and chakra quantity, meaning that how they use those stats is important in fights, yet people seem to forget that because "lightning beats earth!!!"

You see the same shit with other vsbattles as well, but this exemplifies it well.
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 No.5277

Japanese work life isn't very appealing, and so the nostalgic depiction of times of youth are popular.
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 No.5302

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Attack on Titan could have been great, but it became just another edgy anime the moment characters started turning into titans.
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 No.5303

>>5277
I believe this.
Also, nostalgia for friendship, self-realization, growth in general, recognition, etc.

Hot take:
A lot of anime preys on a-social behavior and social mal-adaptations of its audience for profit. This in turn leads to the normalization of such behavior. This is also increasingly true in western cartoons ("having anxiety is normal" kind of shit). This, together with the "identity as a collection of commodities" has led to the infantilization, increased isolation, and more severe and frequent identity crisis, of a huge swath of the millenial and zoomer generations.

What this means is that whatever politics will be from now on will be mediated as commodities. Showing off books, jewelry, fashion, etc.

Another hot take:
Neon Genesis Evangelion is one of the best pieces of media ever produced. Its implications on Hegelian and psychoanalytic thought are not explored enough (or at all, afaik). Whomever thinks the anime is not good, or that it's about robots, it was unironically 2deep4them. The season finale was indeed perfect, regardless of whether it was "supposed" to be or not.

Final hot take:
Ghost in the Shell SAC 1 and 2 are one of the best leftist anime series.
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 No.5304

>>5277
Why you're not wrong exactly, it seems to me nostalgia for youth is a part of most cultures, and probably for the same reasons.
>>5303
>Hot take:
>A lot of anime preys on a-social behavior and social mal-adaptations of its audience for profit. This in turn leads to the normalization of such behavior. This is also increasingly true in western cartoons ("having anxiety is normal" kind of shit). This, together with the "identity as a collection of commodities" has led to the infantilization, increased isolation, and more severe and frequent identity crisis, of a huge swath of the millenial and zoomer generations.
>What this means is that whatever politics will be from now on will be mediated as commodities. Showing off books, jewelry, fashion, etc.
Good post.
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 No.5312

>>5303
Based post, very true.

>>5302
Basically this.
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 No.5314

>>5303
>This is also increasingly true in western cartoons ("having anxiety is normal" kind of shit).
very astute
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 No.5348

War movies are anime for boomers. Similar to otaku oriented anime it often has little bearing to reality and turns people into weeaboos. Anime, however, just encourages hyper consumerism instead of warring.
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 No.5391

>>5348
>War movies are anime for boomers
&ltmuh boomers
please stop, this twitter-tier language is getting cringey as hell
>it often has little bearing to reality
Depends on the movie and on the country the movie is from. If you mean something Rambo II-V, yeah no shit, it was part of the CIA's promotion of US imperialism and anti-communism.
If you mean something like First Blood, then it's different.
>Anime, however, just encourages hyper consumerism instead of warring
have you seen Tanya the Evil and GATE fans? >>4825
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 No.5426

>>5303
the deb8 around NGE on imageboards can be reduced to a clash between two retarded extremes, one side having the guys who overanalyze every single word of the dub, line by line vs /m/orons who willfully refuse to see it as anything other than cool, barely-animated tokusatsu.

I'm an enlightened centrist on the matter, personally.
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 No.5427

>>4338
GT had very cool ideas and a great soundtrack but the execution was really shitty.

Goku being a kid was actually a neat gimmick and even a necessary one since he'd easily overpower everything otherwise, but why is he brown tho.
Pan however was an absolute waste of a character; we're stuck with her for the entire run and she never develops into anything at all, and only serves to waste time with her canned reactions. Also how come Gohan and Videl seemingly don't give a single shit about her after the first episode?

The planet of the week format in the first arc was weak not because it lacked epin fights but because it simply wasn't entertaining. Enemies were either some dumb animal Goku could evaporate in a second but somehow didn't, or incredibly unfunny weirdos because most anime writers are unable to write anything resembling comedy.
Moving forward, that one guy made of metal was an okay enemy but he goes away in order to make space for Baby.

The Baby arc was sort of alright, actually. Nice fights all around, the matchups were seemingly inspired by old internet posts like "who wud win gohan vs vegeter???? XD" and that's a good thing. SSJ4 looked incredibly badass and unique; sure it's a huge asspull but DB is not stranger to them, starting with King Piccolo downright killing Goku only for him to shrug it off by the next episode lol.
As a personal pet-peeve of mine, Majuub getting his hype moment denied for no reason is both stupid and disappointing.

Super 17 was rock bottom trash tier, good thing he goes away quickly. It's even worse than the Garlic Jr. filler arc in Z despite having both Frieza and Cell (and Nappa) in it; at least the filler in Z had big Maron tiddies flopping around the screen.

Lastly, the Shadow Dragon arc had incredible potential, it could've easily been a top 3 hype arcs in the entire franchise but it ended up being a boring monster of the week shitshow with some cool stuff happening somewhat sparsely near the end.

Now regarding Super, I actually went and watched the first arc (the one with Goku rojo) after seeing people praise it in here, and all I have to say is that I'd much rather rewatch the Baby arc again and pretend Super ends right there.

I can't believe I wrote all this crap, I didn't even know I cared about Dragon Ball this much lol.
I've been playing too much FighterZ I think.
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 No.5429

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>>5427
>Now regarding Super, I actually went and watched the first arc (the one with Goku rojo) after seeing people praise it in here, and all I have to say is that I'd much rather rewatch the Baby arc again and pretend Super ends right there.
You mean the Beerus saga? When it came out that one was universally panned. The second arc, Frieze resurrection, too, from what I remember. Most people agree that Super got good in Future Turnks saga. Personally I disagree, I found it to be overly self-serious. Actually dropped the series there for couple months. The tournaments are the true highlights, just pure distilled Dragon Ball.
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 No.5482

>>5429
>>5427
See Dragonball thread
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 No.5502

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Unruhe should be the board mod here.
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 No.5586

Replace the characters in moeblob SoL shit with shotas.
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 No.8108

Bump.
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 No.8109

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There should be more representation of older persons' lives in anime.
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 No.8873

>>8109
Yes, based
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 No.8878

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I give something like 20% of anime fans are unironic pedophiles and hebephiles

Anime girl PFPs are a huge giveaway
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 No.8879

>>8109
Agree
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 No.8882

>>8878
I wouldn't know what percentage, but you're right.
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 No.8888

aku no hana adaptation was better than the manga
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 No.8889

The facial expressions of Anime characters are uncanny and unsettling being one of the main reasons why I couldn't watch it past childhood when I thought of it as just more cartoons on TV.
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 No.8893

>>8889
Depends on the art style being used. Very true for chibi / SD stuff and hentai with the extreme end of ahegao. Not so true for more realistic art styles.
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 No.8894

>>8889
>>8893
Or wait never mind i posted prematurely. Did you mean the more realistic stuff hits uncanny valley for you? Then i cant relate but get what you mean.
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 No.8895

Young Defiant is the only good anime youtuber.
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 No.8897

yuri manga does a better job portraying romance then basically everything else
nips kinda suck at romance tbh
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 No.8898

>>8897
I assume it has something to do with their hellish lives. They want fantasy and escapism.
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 No.8899

>>8878
>>8109
Most anime is for teens and young adults who are nostalgic about an idealized version of high school because being an adult in Japan sucks ass. That's why almost everything is about high schoolers going on adventures and/or falling in love.
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 No.8919

>>8899
>Most anime is for teens/youths looking for idealized SoL
>Most anime is SoL
If this was 10 years ago I'd disagree, but at this point you're not wrong.
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 No.8920

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>>8897
I disagree, Yuri romance in Japan feels rather awkward and forced to me (just like their yaoi shit) because it essentially biols down to "iya rin-san not there!" webm related.
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 No.8925

>>8899
But it's same with manga and it's fair to say a large portion of adults in all age groups in Japan read manga.
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 No.8946

>>2008
FLCL has insane animation that is studied by other animators, plot-wise it’s trash

I treat FLCL like REDLINE which is pure eye-candy
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 No.8963

>>8946
That's news to me, because I remember thinking FLCL looked like crap.
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 No.8964

HxH is trash because it's just UGH because the author is a lazy fuck because he's a psuedo.
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 No.8965

>>8964
>UGH
yes I'm phone posting and I meant YYH
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 No.9047

>>8963
Looks and animation aren't the same. Go check the first Haruko appearance when she hits the protagonist while riding Vespa – it's wacky as fuck. May look a bit try-hard nowadays but it was 2000, before the Internet and the rise of Newgrounds.

> Avatar director Giancarlo Volpe also claims the staff "were all ordered to buy FLCL and watch every single episode of it".

https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Influences_on_the_Avatar_franchise

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