there hasn't been a single korean comic that I've read, regardless of genre, where korea isn't depicted as the worst shithole imaginable with seemingly the worst aspects of western and eastern cultures
>>12574It's an adorable little show, one of the bright spots in donghua (along with scissor seven, white cat legend, and link click). For all the improvement in quality the past few years the Chinese are making too many god damn cookie cutter wuxia, it's as bad as the isekai infestation. Won't even mention all the haram 3D.
If you liked it, check fei ren zai, I thinks it's from the same person or team. Same premise but with eastern myths. Even less narrative but it's just 5m shorts so yolo
>>12579Foreigners living in China, they are all demons/monsters/supernaturals out of the westoid canon.
>>12693kek
>He's a Russian werewolf, sent to China to spy on the newly reborn devil. nice
>>12688Thanks anon, I'll probably watch. The other one sounds cool too since I also like East Asian mythology
>>21198How to Fight
Lookism
God of High School
Manger Kim
Reality Quest
Quest Supremacy
Mercenary Enrollment
The Boxer
All of these series despite their initial premises devolved into korean gang wars shonen fights after a few arcs, picrel are from three separate manhwas mentioned above but you literally can't tell the difference
>>21196Both yes and no. Korean boomers distinctly remember that it was a shithole when they were growing up, remembering things like the Gwangju massacre and the relative poverty of the 50s to 70s, and some of those boomers are the ones writing the earliest manhwas and tv series. It relates to the younger generation in parallel, since the author is thinking of the 70s while the younger reader is thinking of today.
But putting aside the question of how realistic it is and how much they realize that Korea is shit, the boomer authors are invoking the past to (subconsciously) brag about a sort of Korean people-spirit that got them through hard times like those. It might be true that there's something heroic about the Koreans' capacity to live through hardship, but it doesn't change the fact that boomers are basically fetishizing the "hard times make strong men" kind of mindset. They think that this ability to endure such grave circumstances is beautiful and admirable (yes), which leads them to see grave circumstances themselves as beautiful (Sort of?) And that can eventually lead to refusing any opportunity to make shitty circumstances better. They at least aren't so eager to infer the converse (good times create weak men) thing quite yet, so right now this genre can go either way from progressive or reactionary.
>>21202but all the Manhwas mentioned
>>21200 are written by millennial or zoomer authors though
>>21203I haven't read much recent manhwa so I can't judge for those, but the basic aesthetic and self-consciousness of Korean life is probably strongly influenced by the boomers. It's pretty much what "serious" is in South Korean media, enduring self-sacrifice and familial togetherness and the like.
I don't know how much Korean media has changed, but I imagine their humour probably has since picrel
>>21211Terrible analysis
>UHHH SOUTH KOREANS ARE LIKE THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL SHAKING OFF THE AUTHORITARIAN DICTATORSHIP MINDSETNews flash:
The West has the exact same attitude. They're just trained better in hiding it and lying to polls. Most of the people in Western "le liberal democracies" talking about how their families are most important would sell them out in a heartbeat. Hence the high divorce rates, growing number of orphans, single parent homes, etc. This guy is retarded for trying to imply that
>more liberal democracy = more progress= people care more about others :DDD >>21213Ah, in the end it was some semi-religious (or maybe even straight religious) idealistic answer to scietal woes. Pull yourself by bootstraps, be a good wagie, trust in god's plan and shit like that.
But at least i would give it points for at least seeing those woes unlike most of the listed titles and not devolving into "korean gang wars shonen fights". It is also somewhat a parody or decontrustion (at least an attempt) on manga about boxing.
>>21217the stars are just shining for you?
just seems like superficial sentimentalism
>>21232>There is no "problem of evil" there is only a problem of correctly organizing society. lol
grow up kiddo
people in the soviet union murdered each other over petty shit.
crime still existed and I'm not talking about counter revolutionary sabotage I mean simple human stuff like a jealous women killing a cheating husband or vice versa.
evil will always exist socialism just nullifies multiple outlets and places restraints upon the most egregious behavior.
>>21234USSR wasn't full communist and of course crime existed since the money and the ability to accumulate them existed still even if very limited.
You are trying to equate actual problems that have material causes that can be analyzed and dealth with to some "problem of evil" that means shit. It is an anti-intellectual cowardice, nothing more.
>>21236>Of course problem of evil exist, especially on a philosophical problem. Some problems just get outdated and irrelevant, like how many angels can dance on the pin.
>>21238>people cheat on their partners solely because of moneyholy cope lmao
and when early human tribes were fighting each other over women? that was over money too right? i laugh at your denial of basic humanity.
>>21240Should read Engels probably. Or more modern authors, though Engels still mostly right even from standpoint of modern antropology.
The whole concept of cheating stems from monogamy which is a product of class society and private property. Without private property there is no marriage even. No couples that stay together wallowing in resentment and jealousy just because splitting would mean significant financial harships after divorce.
So yeah those examples have clear root on the way our society is organized. Yo shoudl read more. Specifically "Origins of family, private property and state".
>>21238Mental health/Personality Disorders a major driving factor of violent crime and fraud. People do it because they're maldeveloped and they enter every social situation and interaction as a predator. Other people just like comitting crime for the thrill (kleptos)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT1qj4pTo0Ihttps://libgen.li/edition.php?id=136548380Psychological evil is a controversial subject, but highly influential psychologists, who dealt with dangerous people and soldiers who commit war crimes, absolutely do believe it's actually a solid enough concept to call certain personality types.
>>21256So, you have people who were taught by life or whatever to steal and murder, you call that mental health and personality disorders
Like, just gulag them and reeducate through work.
>>21254>Not reallyYes really. It's not about some written "life experience". I don't think you understand how art works even.
People cannot help but recreate their surrounding material reality in their works, even if they are educated and intentionally try not to do that simply because that is the only thing they can go on from. If you look at isekai, many of them take place in some sort of medieval society and yet it always have wage labor (in fact it almost always has nothing BUT wage labor and maybe slavery), has "guards" which is basically police, has same organized crime as our modern society does and same schools or "academies" that modern Japan has. Even when they write about fantasy they still picture their own scoiety because it's the only one they know. If you look at society's art you can see what problems it has, how it paints itself and maybe what that society really like, simple by analyzing the language that uses to talk about things.
If you think that the only books that can be used for that purpose are some autobigrapy shit of some guy writing his "life experiences", you are very much mistaken.
You can be a japanese and hate anime, just like you can be a burger and hate capeshit, but they still tell a lot about your society and probably yourself. It's just not a dumb one to one reflection of it like you tried to imply talking about someone copying behavior of fictional characters.
>>21259>Even when they write about fantasy they still picture their own scoietyThey picture isekai society tropes gleaned off other isekai writers who in turn gleaned it off actually good authors who had ideas about real world. It's very divorced from reality in the end
>you can be a burger and hate capeshitSo, there's this capeshit called Authority, where there's those edgy DC rejects who decide to kill villains for good, kill politicians, and make a properly good world through the use of superpowers. Then they make a fascoid American scientist they've spared a ruler of Indonesia to fix things there. Then they kill China's leaders because they tried to steal a kid that was bound to be a hero of a next century (current century was some british woman, and next must be murrican!)
What I want to say is, those works represent author's views, and authors are gullible retards who lap up propaganda because it's structured just like their favorite books, animes and capeshit. To what degree of accuracy does THAT represent reality of their societies? Oh, and try to fit their views into chosen genre
>>21256>Mental health/Personality Disorders a major driving factor of violent crime and fraud. Given that those disorders are defined by behaviour, like the APD, it comes to a circular logic where we classify undesired behaviour as disorder and then say that this disorder is the cause of such behaviour. What is the cause of those disorders? Simply biology? That's definitely not true and at least a good chunk of them like aforementioned APD do tend to be developed in people by their life circumstances.
>soldiers who commit war crimesYou know, it may have something to do with taking young men and learning them to indiscriminately kill people they never even met before, being constantly under streess both physical and mental and, yes, being rewarded for psychopathic behaviour and being covered for any wrongdoing unless it has too much publicity and even then (just look at war crimes in Iraq or Vietnam). So basically you train people to be antisocial and some of them become too far gone after that. Must be something in our genes.
Seriously at least try to think about examples you give.
>>21260>They picture isekai society tropes gleaned off other isekai writers who in turn gleaned it off actually good authors who had ideas about real world. It's very divorced from reality in the endCan you give me actual example of those "good authors"? What are you even talk about? What good author would make a medieval society that look just like ours? Are you trying to pretend you have a point or something?
They picture isekai and non-isekai fantasy worlds like that because that's the world they are surrounded by looks like. And it is true for other genres and countries, not only isekai.
>What I want to say is, those works represent author's views, and authors are gullible retards who lap up propaganda because it's structured just like their favorite books, animes and capeshit. To what degree of accuracy does THAT represent reality of their societies?Lol. Maybe spend like 10 minutes actually thinking about it?
>>21263>Can you give me actual example of those "good authors"?I don't read them because I enjoy eating shit. But like, whne Death Note came about, everyone was copying it, and Death Note featured a sterile world of a victorious end of history where class contradictions don't exist and there's an increase in rampant crime (which in turn was gleaned off 1980-90s shows and movies with similar themes) which cannot be solved by inept justice system in place. So, every copycat did such a world of crime with their own twist on mindgame detectives
Isekais copy each other in the same way. I have no idea as for the the most influential shows, but those are likely to be normal fantasy anime and novels (that anime Deedlith is from was supposedly highly popular? Slayers?)
>They picture isekai and non-isekai fantasy worlds like that because that's the world they are surrounded by looks likeAgain, no. You are oversimplifying things. What do elves, dwarves and orcs represent in present day society? Where do enslaved beastmen even come from, lol? It's just tropes with some twists added here and there, but those things are pretty much a separate self-sufficient reality at this point. Elves and whoever else are in fantasy novels just because they are there, and their traits are stuck regardless of Earth' socieites.
As for what you are talking about, the surrounding society, yeah, you can see it in authors' works. Most obvious example - whenever MC tries to control and improve society by implementing proper bureaucracy or producing dildos on an industrial scale for aristocratic women
>>21268>(that anime Deedlith is from was supposedly highly popular? Slayers?)Neither was really starter of the things i am talking. And even if they were, how exactly did they arise in those works? You argument is not really counter to what i said. It's like saying "god created universe" without answering "who created god".
>Again, no. You are oversimplifying things.Yes, that's how it works - people are molded by their environment. Unless you are some sort of idealist of course.
>What do elves, dwarves and orcs represent in present day society? Where do enslaved beastmen even come from, lol?They come from our colonialist and imperialist essentialist interpretation of races. I don't think you understood what i talked about if you expect an answer in the kind "well, dwarves are like german scotts and orcs are slavs or brown people, also beastmen are brown people". It isn't like 1 to 1 reflection. So meditate on that.
>>21273It would not be fair or accurate to make a judgment about society's education based on the knowledge of a few authors of a particular genre of fiction. Isekai is a genre of Japanese light novels, manga, and anime that involves a character being transported to a parallel world. These works are often fantastical and may not necessarily be based on real-world physics or technology.
Furthermore, it is not uncommon for creative works, including fiction, to contain inaccuracies or to take creative liberties with certain aspects of reality in order to better tell a story or create a desired effect. This does not necessarily reflect the knowledge or education of the authors or the society in which they live.
In general, it is important to consider the context and intended purpose of a work when evaluating its accuracy or believability. It would not be appropriate to use the depiction of technology, medicine, or physics in a work of fiction as a basis for making judgments about the education or knowledge of a society.
>>21261Personality Disorders, for the most part, are a combination of biology/genetics exacerbated by poor or abusive parenting, usually by parents who they themselves, a Personality Disorder.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5048197/People with Personality Disorders, quite literally, are brain damaged, due to a comination of genetics exacerbated by "trauma" through key mental developmental stages.
The criminal and antisocial behavior is from how they actually view the world and all social interactions. Every day people have numerous filters, commonly shared social assumptions, social cues etc that you use in social interactions. A large part of healthy interactions is empathy. Mutual trust. As a friend, I don't expect you to fuck me over for petty self gain, I don't expect you to lie to me, and they expect the same for me. If I see someone is hurt, I well help them, if I was hurt, I would expect someone would stop and help me.
People with Antisocial Personality Disorders don't view the world in this way, they literally do not have a concept of empathy, they do not feel that emotion at all. They view every social interaction as a zero sum game of winner takes all. When you're speaking to someone with ASPD, they are calculating in their head, the best way they can assert dominance and control over you and get gains from you, be it, you buy them lunch, or more likely they lend you a bunch of money you never, ever pay back. Every interaction is like this. People with ASPD will lie 95% of the time, even when there is no real reason for them to lie. They lie because they're always testing your boundaries, they know you know it's a lie, but the fact you don't call them out, incentives them to push further and futher. Everything with Sociopaths and their related Personality Disorders is about control over others.
They are human social predators. They themselves usually don't actually go out and go "I'm going to lie to this person about this specific thing right now", it's all purely instinctual, they're a shark.
These people are responsible for huge rates of crime that ends up in prison, we're talking 55%-90% of the prison population suffers from at least one of the major Cluster B Personality Disorders according to various studies.
Go read r/Sociopath on Reddit. Sociopaths ask for advice from other sociopaths or people ask them questions, and they always respond with the most banal evil answers.
"I'm a pathological liar and it's hurting my life, what should I do", "Lie better", "Throw a seed of truth in your lies, it makes them stick better", "Make sure your lies always benefit you" nobody says "Don't lie".
Some people are just legitimately predisposed to evil and they're always sadly going to be a noticeable minority percentage (6%-9%ish) of the population.
>>21275>Personality Disorders, for the most part, are a combination of biology/genetics exacerbated by poor or abusive parenting, usually by parents who they themselves, a Personality Disorder.And not, say, drill instructors.
>People with Personality Disorders, quite literally, are brain damagedNo, that's literally not what they are.
>People with Antisocial Personality Disorders don't view the world in this way, they literally do not have a concept of empathyGiven that you think that everyone with APD is psychopath it's quite clear you didn't research the subject (also because you think that every personality disorder is APD given your previous claims about brain damage). There is a reason for distinction between psychopaths and sociopaths. They both (among many other patterns fo behaviour) are classified under APD. And even when talking about psychopaths we know for sure that it is possible to socialize them since majority of them aren't some kind of movie serial killer or crime boss or ceo.
So i guess the moral is to do some actual research instead of superficial reading of wiki and couple link hits from google.
>>21276>NTA, but I have a question: can sociopaths even be cured?Again you show that you don't know the difference between psychopaths and sociopaths (which isn't an official distinction but still widely used among psychiatrists because of ti's usefulness). The key distinction is, again, that sociopaths are developed, not born.
>>21276No, Personality Disorders mean the entire person is disordered, their entire sense of self and personality is completely broken. Therapy like DBT works to help people with these disorders manage the symptoms in more… healthy ways, for a Sociopath, they can't teach them empathy, but they teach them that fucking someone over for literally no reason or pathologically lying or always treating every interaction and a zero sum game, will lead to negative outcomes in the long run like prison. So they try to rationalise out something that at least acts somewhat like some form of empathy in practice.
healthy person "I have no reason to fuck this person over, it would make them feel bad, hurt them and leave them in a situation I myself would never want to be put in, people who do that shit suck"
"Reformed" Sociopath: I shouldn't fuck this person over because it's a negative behavior that will come back and bite me in the ass later.
There are more radical ideas of breaking the Sociopath down basically mentally to a child, and completely reparenting them over years into being a functional adult, but those are radical therapies that would be very rare to come across.
Another issue is that most Psychs and Therapists fucking HATE dealing with Cluster B patients, because there is a lot of research that shows that Sociopaths and the like will go into therapy in complete bad faith, and then just use the therapy sessions to fuck around and essentially harass their therapists.
There is also quite a bit of evidence as well that therapy actually often makes the Sociopath MORE manipulative, as they basically learn from therapies, ways to control their manipulation and lies more effectively.
The two most common jokes in the field are
"How do you treat a Cluster B Patient? Refer them to someone else"
"Cluster B is 5% of your cases, 95% of the work"
>>21277>And not, say, drill instructors.No, Personality Disorders develop from early childhood. Usually around the ages of 2-5. A large part of them is caused by a failure to properly develop a sense of self, seperated from their parents, which creates a warped/distorted/shifting sense of self. The sad truth, is that there is no actual real "person" there, it never formed, you have a creature of instinct that is bouncing around situationally.
>No, that's literally not what they are.They literally are, several parts of their brain are under-developed, they have very low levels of grey matter compared to a healthy brain. They usually also have other neurological things, like poor sense of taste and smell.
>>21277All Sociopaths are Psychopaths.
ASPD = Detached Secondary Psychopathy
BPD = Unstable Secondary Psychopathy
and then you have Primary Psychopathy which is a completely different beast all together.
Sociopaths are a mixture of Genetic and Environmental which basically creates a whirlwind predatory creature a large part as a trauma response as a child.
Primary Psychopaths are entirely genetic, you actually can work with, they have a complete lack of empathy, but they're usually extremely rational minded, very ordered. Psychopaths are actually generally far more successful, they're overrepresented as Surgeons, Doctors, Lawyers and Businessmen.
>The key distinction is, again, that sociopaths are developed, not born.While this used to be believed to be the case, all the Cluster B disorders are now believed to have a strong genetic component.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder#Genetic >>21279>I think using blockbuster films that were made as a mass product is definitely worth whole examination, but using some moderately popular sitcom to say something society is just "reaching"Well when did i say that you use a single movie of show? Obviously you need to analyze them as a whole, otherwise you won't be able to see what is commong among them.
>>21281Man, you don't know anythign about personality disorders.
>All Sociopaths are Psychopaths. https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/sociopath-psychopath-differencehttps://www.simplypsychology.org/psychopathy-vs-sociopathy.html<Both disorders have an antisocial/deviance domain, but characteristics such as shallowness, callousness, lack of empathy, and emotional detachment are uniquely psychopathic traits.You clearly don't know what you talk about and just refuse to admit it, digging yourself deeper and deeper.
Not to mention that APD is more than just psychopaths and sociopath and can be someone who is for example is malignant narcissist. And you never even approached my point about the fact that those disorders are jsut desription of behaviour. not the reason behind it.
>>21261
>No, Personality Disorders develop from early childhood. Usually around the ages of 2-5.So soldier commiting war crimes was determined from his early age, not by the fact that he got drafted or enrolled into army (because it is one of the few social elevators) and it tought him to indiscriminately kill people. Gotcha. Please just shut up and read a book.
>>21282If we want to get technical, Sociopath and Psychopath aren't even a thing anymore officially, you just have Antisocial personality disorder/Dangerous and Severe personality Disorder.
Sociopathy is usually referred to as Secondary Psychopathy in studies and literature.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6185817To get a Psychopathic personality type "diagnosis" (this is used more in forensic psychology rather than therapy), you need to simply score 30/40 out PCL-R (or 25 in UK/EU), something both a Sociopath and Primary Psychopath are likely to do. They also both meet the diagnostic criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder, this is why Psychopath and Sociopath aren't actually used "officially" anymore, simply Antisocial.
I strongly disagree with Antisocial being the single diagnosis, as we both agree on, Sociopaths and Primary Psychopaths are quite different creatures at least in the internal mechanisms. Malignant Narcissist falls under the NPD diagnosis, not Antisocial (though I agree a malignant narcissist is very much a form of psychopath).
> read a book.I know exactly what book you are refereing too, I literally already posted it above.
>>21256>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT1qj4pTo0IThis was the groundbreaking book about Malignant Narcissism. Honestly, it's filled with horrifying case studies of genuinely evil people. The worst part was, their evil was completely banal, but destroyed the lives of people around them and they couldn't care less.
>So soldier commiting war crimes was determined from his early ageTechnically, from a diagnostic standpoint, an individual soldier committing a war crime doesn't have a personality disorder. What is very interesting though, is that groups of non-disordered people, can start to show actions and traits of Personality Disorders.
If you're interested in that topic,
https://youtu.be/IT1qj4pTo0I?t=7635 this goes into the group dynamics that led to the Mai Lai massacre. A group of 50-several hundred people, showed absolutely traits, as a group that would be considered Malignant Narcissism, the interesting thing though is as individuals, they wouldn't, but as a group, they did.
>>21290>If we want to get technical, Sociopath and Psychopath aren't even a thing anymore officially, you just have Antisocial personality disorder/Dangerous and Severe personality Disorder. Faggot, i literally said that in previous posts that those are not official definitions. And no, again you just can't even fucking read what you have googled, that's not how classification goes.
>Malignant Narcissist falls under the NPD diagnosis, not AntisocialWrong, narcissits who show antisocial behaviour can be put under APD too. It is pretty clear you don't fucking know a single thing about this topic.
>I strongly disagree with Antisocial being the single diagnosis, as we both agree onI don't agree with you one anything uneducated schizo.
>I know exactly what book you are refereing too, I literally already posted it above.No you fucking don't. Because i didn't mean any specific book, just that you should stop beign retarded and argue on topic you have less than zero knowledge about and go do some research. Fuck, how can a human being be so stupid and not die from forgetting how to breath?
>>21298You are saying "even in those" which means that you are going from the same assumption as
>>21296 this one. You think that most useful art is where some smart guy is trying to actively tell you something about his society, while the consumer products the constantly produced and consumed in said society tell you nothing or very little about it. In reality it's pretty much the opposite. It is exactly the everyday products that tell us very much about their society. It's just not as straightforward as "hey everyone is painted beautiful and rich in those dramas so they all much be beautiful and rich".
>>21305I can't say anything about romcoms, but korean action films are pretty decent imo, they are okay if you have time to kill
they aren't great but in my experience every korean action film is done well and mediocre at worst
>>21196one thing your over looking is most of these are self published comics, and most people aren't just aren't creative enough to keep series afloat for too long before they start cannibalizing each other tropes. This is why his best series are stuff like Bastard or Sweet home which are pretty short.
Lookism devolving into H o w e v e r s and inconsistent power level wankery is so fucking stupid though, the manga hasn't even been about looks for god know how many chapters by now
>>21326adding to this, go talk to a woman in these terms. be like, yea i have a genetic urge to proliferate my DNA, please be ovulating
really human stuff, yep
>>21329>There is no such thing as "story quality" in manga.Compare to Koreans and Chinese. There's like 99 to 1 trash ratio in Japanese comics, and there's like 999 to 1 trash ratio elsewhere. Maybe it's just a taste thing
Also, Koreans tend to serialize from the get go, it seems, as there's almost never any non-continued pilots, and Japanese tend toward producing in volumes. Chinese just have self-publishing authors, it seems, their everything is fanfiction-level quality and distribution.
>>21329to put it frankly, Japanese manga culture advanced too far, too fast. They moved into their own form of postmodern steady decline rut. It's not attractive or interesting to do cool, strong, well-trained, dedicated muscular heroes played straight anymore. It's not appealing to do heavy romances with equal partnership and sexual desire. Everything has to be ironic antiheroes, small children who randomly get powers, isekai self-insert fantasy clearly written by bullied, sheltered loners, and impotent sexless male freakouts that skirt around "romantic comedy" for literal years without any progress.
Meanwhile Korea and China are have been finally coming into their own and fully embracing archetypes of strength and truth and beauty. It's interesting to watch, because I am not particularly a big fan of Korean culture otherwise (I have lived in Japan and have made frequent trips to SK, it's very strange there, cold, almost alien, too complex to really discuss in a post). However I see this as a potential positive change. SK's fertility rate seems to be doing much more poorly than Japan's though, and their suicide rate is still catastrophically higher. I'm not sure what the future will bring. Suffice it to say, Japanese manga has certainly gotten bored with itself
>>21332What a bullshit analysis.
Korea and China seem to be having a lot of "murim" stories stuff in their culture that is written and never translated, and we get a lot of manga that's basically drawn murim. There were a lot of zombie manga stories not so long ago coming from China, and Korea still is drawing "dungeons in modern world" shit. Japan has more "traditional" isekai shit, and they have more of it than all of murim combined. But then Japan actually has noteworthy manga and China and Korea just don't, it's all barely above fanfiction level.
>>21340> black people have faster reflexes, whites have stronger endurancetbf that's untrue, but again its only at 3-5% difference and is usually regarding the top percentile of athletes, west africans do have faster twitch muscles, northern europeans have body frames that allow them lift better at higher weight classes and slightly higher grip strength
but again this only applies to the top percentile of competing athletes
>>21200I don't get the hype around lookism though, I literally forced myself through 300 chapters and it’s fucking awful
like it started off with depicting actual social problems.(don't know abt execution but still i liked it).
Then like after one of the arcs where one of mc's friends does smthing to mc, imo it goes downhill.
Suddenly like, him having 2nd body is to surpass some other character in fighting.His goal is to unite 4 mafia gangs. All these new characters that I dont feel for them for anything. also our of nowhere the mc randomly becomes a super genius, which I dont see anywhere.
Now, literal high schoolers are against the whole korean underworld.I feel like the mc's motivation or goal could've been like "becoming an idol to help my mom" or "I have passion in this. So I should do it."
Sorry this is long rant. But i am rlly disappointed.
>>21200Here's the Korean martial arts powerlevels in manhwa:
>"MMA"usually the most generic punches and kicks that the author got from googling
>traditional taekwondo Undefeatable, muh 400 years of superior kicking, Practically unstoppable but not entirely
>boxingWins against mooks but sometimes gets shat on
>wrestling Grappling is seen as gay and lame by most manhwa demographic
>judoSee above
>Ssireum The shitter. Usually a dumb retarded brute that loses disgracefully against 130 pound MC.
>>21242>>21324>The whole concept of cheating stems from monogamyPolyamorous people tend to be even more against cheating than monogamous people are lmao. The problem with cheating isn't primarily about private property or muh genetic heritage (although they have some relation). It's bad first and foremost because it's a betrayal of trust and boundaries. Any consequences of cheating (which can also include STD transmission) are a product of dishonesty and inability to control yourself for the sake of your partner(s), to make compromises/sacrifices for the sake of the commitment, i.e. to have a functional relationship.
>though Engels still mostly right even from standpoint of modern antropology.L O L
>>21354>Polyamorous people tend to be even more against cheating than monogamous people are lmao.You don't even know what those terms mean. How about you actually read Engels?
>L O LYes, problems, booklet?
>>21378In all seriousness, I don't think Engels denied mate protection, he barley even commented on what sexual relations would look like under communism (picrel). Engels never advocated for polygamy I don't know where this position comes from, "the origins of the family" was a book of family economics that related private property, patriarchal relations, and monogamy.
That was a strange argument you had.
Btw I would be careful of using animals examples, while they can be helpful under certain circumstances and context's, human behavior can't simply be reduced to the behavior of other species.
>>21331It's just a shitty korean flash "animation" about two guys arguing about some guy not coming out of the toilet until the one on the top left shits himself and kill them both with the stench
Rough translation
"Ah then please could you finish up quickly?"
"Oh what the fuck
I told you that I just got in here"
Then they call each other retard and moustache guy makes the other one call him "big bro" only to renege on his promise for saying it three times, not once
>>21378Subordinate male not screaming when fucking so that leader male doesn't come and beat the shit out of him is definitely the same as understanding that you are causing emotional pain by cheating.
Are you from /pol/ or simply retarded?
>>21387Disney is an institution with billions of dollars in marketing and a rabid, diverse fanbase. Get real dude.
Fact is Koreans and Chinese creators are breaking into a new market and thus have little momentum or institutional support or established communities (I remember being an anime fan back before it was popular— with the exception of Miyazaki, it took decades for its worth to be recognized among the Westoid mainstream.). Now works from Korean and Japan from an “objective” perspective slot nicely into the existing communities of anime and manga fans, but those communities are also obviously racist and have clearly adopted WHAT THE SEE AS normal Japanese attitudes toward KOR/CN works, people, and culture and see their communities. So they’ve created an explicitly racial distinction that makes otherwise stylistically indistinguishable works “Japanese” based on nationality of author and are hostile to these other communities and artists.
>>21391>Now works from Korean and Japan from an “objective” perspective slot nicely into the existing communities of anime and manga fansExcept they don't. The only reason you think they should is because you are westoid orientalist racist cunt. Manga and manhwa are as different as anime and disney animation (already told about paneling for example), but hey, they both come from those slint eyes people so i guess animu fans should like both or…or….they are racist.
Fuck you, westoid.
>>21403>donghua>indenticalOnly if you are legally blind. Or mentally incapacitated.
>>21404>It’s not allowed for me to talk about Chinese anime in western anime forumsJust like you won't be able to talk about disney or pixar. Different fucking medium. Has different style, different settings, different plot devices and so on. Stop being retarded or just kill yourself.
>They just ban it because the author is Chinese.Fuck off with your reddit drama.
>>21401Manga and manwha are interchangeable because of how connected their cultures are. Japan and Korea is like Turkey and Greece. The only reason why weebs hate manhwas and other elements of the korean pop culture is because they're whignat retards who absorbed anti korean and chinese racism through osmosis from animes and japanese imageboards.
Outside of the West, most non-white weebs also watch donghuas and read wuxia novels.
>>21285in the official narratives of the armies? yes
in the media or in the idea that the public has of soldiers (what the message you are replying to was actually pointing out)? definitely not, but it depends on the country
>>21284kanikosen is the one that comes closer to this, but it isn't a normal commercial manga so it doesn't count
it is probably because it would go against the official narrative and manga authors are not supposed/allowed to be "polemic"
but they are not the only ones. americans have something similar; the "good guys" in hollywood movies may refuse an order, but it is always out of loyalty to the "american values"/flag/army/whatever (capital). their allegiance (to capital) and efficiency is always uncompromising and indisputable
it is basically the same idea that you see in japanese media but with the flavor of american exceptionalism and token individualism. from full metal jacket to avatar, from rambo to jarhead, they all follow this pattern
the rest of the world doesn't do this
>>21423The man was a parasite his entire life, he first sided with Japanese imperialists and changed his ancestral name to a Japanese one, wrote a pledge of allegiance to Japan with his blood and was belied to have been involved in war crimes in Manchuria, when the Japanese empire collapsed and korea's fate was uncertain he was actually a member of labor party and was almost executed for being a communist and was only spared thanks to a few friend of his, during the korean war he rose rapidly through the ranks and in 1961 when he was about to forcefully retired he took power in a military coup and became a US stooge
The man had no ideology or consistent worldview his entire life
>>21424The man had a consistent viewpoint during his rule of sk and that was to turn korea into a copy of manchuko
He absolutely idolized showa japan and sought to implement showa statism with korean characteristics
>>21336literal american psycho card scene
>"look at these expensive things">"he is so good at picking clothes"kek
>>21426>was a japanese collaborator>then in the labor movement >then a rightwing us allied dictator how is that consistent in your opinion
It looks like korea is going through a 1960s and 70s moment with rising labor costs, suffering industry, increasing competition and etc. The next 20 years will be interesting.
https://maritime-executive.com/article/mounting-pressure-on-south-korean-shipbuilders-as-dsme-declares-crisisDespite a surge in orders over the past two years, the South Korean shipbuilding industry is facing mounting pressures due to rising costs and labor shortages. Faced with the continuing competition from China and the industry’s exposure to Russian shipping, several South Korean shipbuilders are struggling to strengthen their positions.
The Korean Ministry of Trade, Industry and Energy yesterday highlighted the strength of the industry in the first half of 2022 saying that South Korean shipbuilders received the most order volume and highest value of orders so far in 2022 beating out their Chinese rivals. According to the figures, the South Koreans received 45 percent of the volume measures in gross tonnage, and with their focus on higher value ships such as LNG carriers received 47 percent of the value of orders placed this year.
While the Ministry was highlighting the order success, Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering (DSME) one of South Korea’s leading shipbuilders announced mounting problems in a regulatory filing. The company’s financial losses increased by more than 120 percent with management citing rising costs and the Ukraine war. The mounting losses have driven DSME's debt to equity ratio to 547 percent as of the end of March.
http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=33591In case of Hyundai Motor, Kim said, labor costs are higher than Toyota and Volkswagen but labor hours per unit are 11 percent to 26 percent higher than Toyota, Ford and GM. On the other hand, Korea ranks low among major countries in labor management cooperation (24th) and labor flexibility (21st). The price gap between the Hyundai Elantra (the Avante in South Korea) and Toyota in the U.S. market dropped from 7 percent in 2005 to 1.3 percent in 2018.
As the car industry is falling, its employment is also on the decline. The number of employees in the auto industry decreased from 401,000 at the end of 2017 to 385,000 as of April this year. The workforce of first-tier suppliers was reduced by 8,000 from 294,000 to 286,000 last year because 20 first-tier component producers went bankrupt last year.
Experts say that domestic auto parts companies are being pushed out of the market due to a lower level of technology. The research & development (R&D) expense to revenue ratio of South Korean component producers stands at only 2 to 3 percent which is one third to fourth compared to that of advanced countries’.
https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2022/09/29/business/industry/korea-posco-hyundai-steel/20220929163421076.htmlThe country is also short of experts. Demand for workers with skills in both automobiles and information technology (IT) is growing, but there are not enough experts.
The price of hot-rolled steel stood at 1.1 million won ($773) per ton on Sept. 23, up 10 percent on month. The price of imported hot-rolled steel also jumped 24 percent to 1.2 million won on month. Hot-rolled steel is commonly used to make components in vehicles.
A ton of H-beam steel traded at 1.3 million won, up 7.5 percent, during the same period. H-beam steel is the major material at construction sites.
The price of stainless hot-rolled steel rose 10 percent to 4.4 million won while the prices of steel plates, which are the main materials for shipbuilding, rose 14 percent in just two weeks.
Prices are expected to rise even more rapidly in coming weeks as Hyundai Steel employees are planning more strikes.
Hyundai Steel’s four labor unions went on strike for eight hours on Sept. 24 and 25. They said they will stage strikes unexpectedly until the company accepts their demands.
Hyundai Steel unions are demanding a base monthly pay raise of 165,200 won and 15 percent of last year’s operating profit as incentives. It also requested 4 million won of bonuses, arguing that employees of Hyundai Motor, Kia and Hyundai Mobis received that amount.
>>21438>flat is justice you fucking mongrelWrong.
>>21439Never in real life, but I have online.
>>21440Western D I guess? Those look
tiny lmao
>>21447 (me)
It honestly reminds me on how whites would steal music from black artists from the 1900s to the 1970s. It’s really no different
>>21431well "my life as a loser" ended, it had all the designated good characters being fabulously wealthy business owners and influencers and the bad guys end up working at subway(I'm not making this shit up)
I get wanting to be comfortable but what is this obsession with being a rich internet celebrity, say what you wanna say about Japan but I have never read a Japanese martial arts series which rides so hard on the concept of being a millionaire celebrity
>>21455>Burger thriftiness comes from that Calvinist thing I think in which making a lot of money as a businessman is praiseworthy but we're not allowed to truly enjoy it because that makes us feel guilty. Hold on. Everytime I hear about "Protestant work ethic" and such things, I'm always very doubtful. To give context to this, keep in mind I'm a Wop - a Wop-Wop, not a Burger-Wop - and I've been hearing to this silly story that the woes and faults of this fucking country - Wopistan - resides mainly in the fact that Catholicism remained always dominant here and Protestantism has never been a relevant thing, religiously, ideologically or otherwise. We are lazy, dirty, vulgar, noisy, rude, unreliable, poor and so on while the fantastic Anglomen, Germanomen and Nordomen are industrious, productive, civic, polite, discreet, well mannered, tasteful and wealthy because at some point they started following the liturgy and the church organisation proscribed by some Monsieur Calvin or Herr Luther while we sticked to the fuckin' pope and all the holy mass and yada yada yada.
Bullshit. Crap. Rubbish. Nonsense.
And you know the origin of all of this? Some Herr Weber in the early 20th century. He was a German guy who wrote many books. Very boring, because German books are in German, which has a very complicated grammar and style. One of those books was about this "Protestant Ethics" and what not. Years ago I downloaded a copy of it. An Italian translation, obviously, because I'm lazy and unreliable and I couldn't study German. After a few pages I couldn't carry on. So, I remembered a line by Billy Crystal early in "Harry meets Sally". He says that when he gets a book, he always read the last page first, so if he died suddenly, at least he would have known the end of the story! Billy Crystal is a Jew and they are definitely the most clever of all! Many amazing Jewish comedians too, obviously!
So, getting back to this Weber guy's book, I went full Billy Crystal and I found out at the last page something like "but after all my entire idea is but an hypothesis and further enquiry could be needed" or some stuff to that effect.
Well, that day, aside from having found a little jewishness in me, I also found that many libs and cons and intellectuals and all the dog and pony show never actually read that fucking book… Or at least they didn't get wise the same way Billy - and I - did…
>We can never be truly decadent like Italians or Gulf Arabs.Take us out of that. We can't afford it anymore, ffs!
>>21458It's an acquired taste…
>>21461>There's no way of winning unless you are part of the chaebol.Those people will be mostly miserable too anon.
That is the whole thing. Capitalism is a bad system for everyone involved.
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