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I love death note. And I love light yagami as a character.

However it was very obvious that his entire worldview is extremely… reactionary I guess? Or like darwinist? Killing criminals and not trying to fix underlying problems is obvioiusly retarded. I wonder if any normalfags were able to make this obsevation
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>>4216
I love Dafoe. is it worth it to watch just for him?


>>4241
Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps

Light Yagami was a faggot.
End of.

>>3369
Reactionary and progressive doesn't apply in Death Note. Light is a legist and L is a daoist. They represent political ideologies which don't make sense in the context of linear change.

>>16554
>inb4 Christian symbolism
It's the Japanese we are talking about. Don't except them to seriously approach Western ideas. It's not that they are stupid, they just don't know or don't care. Despite all the symbolism and Misa's Kira-worshipping sect, everything goes back to normal to the way it has always been, at least from what see in the last shots: mortals live the lives of mortals and the death gods rule over death and their shitty wasteland which is as empty as death itself: it's pure nothingness.

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light yagami from the anime death note is basically a eugenicist, so it's ridiculous how half the fanbase thinks he's an "anti hero" or anything besides a complete monster

i swear weebs are really dumb sometimes

the only people who call him a "anti-hero" are right-wingers

>>18410
which is a large portion of that fanbase

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describing yourself as a "death note fanbase member" in 2023

>>18409
He's basically the rightoid idea of justice: a petit bourgueoise with some power that kills people that he thinks is the "true cause" of society issues, instead of fighting against the root of the societal issues

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Eugenicist? He didn't kill anyone on base of gene and wasn't concerned with reproduction at all (not even with his own lol). Anyway, moral relativist Near for the win.

Problem i see with Light was he didn't use the death note to it's full potential with how you can use it to control people's actions and instead had a narcissistic notion that he could be feared as a god focusing only on the killing aspect. I dont think eugenicist is best way to describe him.

there are people who unironically think that lelouch and light are both part of the anti-hero archetype and it drives me fucking insane

>>18427
i'm not disagreeing with you but can you tell me what you think lelouch is? sympathetic villain protagonist? what role in the story does he have? because in my view he's an anti hero because he's going against a social darwinist empire that's racist, so it's more like dark gray morality vs black morality. On the tvtropes page its conflicted as well if he is anti hero or villain protagonist, and his character page has both tropes listed at once. So I don't think the character lelouch is as evil as light yagami. I think at worst he is a much more sympathetic villain than him even if he is still evil

>>18428
I don't think Lelouch is a villain at all. Everything he does is to destroy the fascist empire and save his sister. Doing bad stuff doesn't make him a villain, it makes him a flawed person trying to overthrow an evil government.

>>18409
It sucks that Light didn't use the Death Note to go after the actual bad people in the world, he could have obliterated global capitalism

I honestly can't believe it's been 17 years since the Death Note anime came out… holy shit I feel old.

>>18412
Who are you replying to?

>>18410
I mean in some ways he starts off as an anti-hero, taking action against the vile elements that societies mechanisms fail to stop, but it just derails into a serial killers murder spree.

The Simpsons' parody of 'Death Note' from Treehouse of Horror 33 was actually pretty funny.

>>10277
Lelouch is never presented as a psychopath, and feels guilty for the death destruction he has caused. But is able to bury it and continues on his crusade. And he never believes himself to be god or let his power get too his head. Hell he plans his own death so that world can live in peace,

Light was a fucking idiot. How do you end up getting caught while having a supernatural notebook that can kill anyone with just a name and a face?

Still, I love the hell out of Death Note.

>>22869
Yeah really, he died because he was a narcissist retard, he's supposed to be a genius but decides to kill the head of the investigation into him… Like literally just do nothing and they would have no way to track you down. The guy he killed wasn't even a criminal (as far as he knew) so he broke his own rules too

>>3369
He's simply the reflection of the superstructure of the neoliberal order. Everything "bad" happening is presented as someone's "personal failing," not some systemic problem that needs solving. Light is just edgier Batman really, he simply shows what Batman really is: a servant of the system who oppresses proles and lumpens for any transgression. The only difference is that in the eyes of your average comics fan or movie-goer a criminal getting beaten up to near-death and thrown in a cell is "okay" while straight-up killing a criminal is "evil."

>>22872
True, you could totally end capitalism with the death note though (especially given that you can control people with it for at least some period of time(

>>22873
I remembered how in Deus Ex when you beat up radicals they'll call you a fascist. Now imagine it was Batman. It still works.

Although to be fair to Batman he was rescuing political prisoners in Arkham City but I think he's still a counter-revolutionary (Dark Knight Rises comes to mind).

>>22872
The batman thing is funny because writers kind of noticed this criticism so they decided to make him a super entrepreneur who donates all his money all the time and yet his money donations just cannot stop crime.
Which in a way just enforces the reactionary ideology by making the crime rate of Gotham less of a system thing and more of a people thing. Now there even is a “counter culture” group of lib comic fans who get annoyed when you say anything about superhero politics that in anyways criticise them, they for example point to batman donating his money as an argument that he isn’t a fashoid.

>>22871
He's even worse of Batman. He straight up says he was planning to kill people who don't contribute enough to society. Big words coming from a pig.

>>22880
i still think it's a little silly to call batman a fascist, just because superhero politics is just neither something that can exist in real life or important in any way, and it's not even consistent within the bounds of a single superhero (see superman). that being said, i think he's still more of a lib superhero, most of the works he is in feature him favoring a rehabilitative approach to crime and le donating to the poor, acting as a good soul within the framework of gotham, an evil and corrupt shithole exemplifying eternal 19xx america. i like batman and i think he's pretty cool

>>13665
mp4 in case it gets deleto'd

>>22967
>Columbo in Death Note
This is a Netflix adaptation I'd watch lol.


how does anybody like this dogshit anime. my dog could have animated this better.

>>25255
It was a different time

I think people focus on the character too much and ignore the world the mangaka created around him.

Because in the context of Light's world, he is actually correct. He's not making an argument about what the result of his actions WOULD BE, the indiscriminate killing of anyone the Japanese justice system names a suspect does in fact eliminated crime from society for the duration of Kira's bloody reign!

You can say accurately that that's not how the real world works, but it is how the mangaka THINKS it works. There are no social or systemic causes of crime that cannot be overcome with harsher repression

>>25255
homoerotic supernatural mindgame kino. if u dont get it you're a reactionary

>>25253
>term meant for an arbitrarily defined phase of capitalism applied to people
bloody retarded

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>>11696
>get book that literally lets you end capitalism worldwide at your desk
>200 IQ
>everyone loves you
>use it to kill lumpen instead
>build a cult of personality and isolate yourself
>pretend you are retarded and sacrifice family and friends
>die
What did he mean by this?

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>>25560
Does high IQ necessarily equate distrust of the status quo though? Especially judging by how workaholic Light is. At least we spend enough time on the Internet to stumble onto radical literature through memes and Wiki pages. And Light probably doesn't even have time to watch anime, let alone read Capital Vol. 1.

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>>25576
>Does high IQ necessarily equate distrust of the status quo though
No, but Kira demonstrates the fact that he thinks the system isn't doing enough and that he knows better, hence him taking "justice" into his own hands.
>Light probably doesn't even have time to watch anime, let alone read Capital Vol. 1
You don't need to read Capital to be radicalized or anti-establishment. Plenty of people and movements began without any such reading. Marx's work is just better for understanding the details of problems, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out basic issues and look at the cause of things beyond simple interactions on a basic level of society. The fact is that he's a narcissist who's hyper-intelligent but fails to see the forest for the trees and thinks his first conclusion about society (and fixing it) is the right one.

>>25574
Nice slew of memes.

>>25591
true, it's still funny that killing like 5 oil executives would probably have an infinitely greater effect on the world

>>25574
Say what again mothafucka

>>25609
It would mean five less pensions to be delivered.
It would mean a few dozen less sex slaves being dicked around.
It would mean five less zionists.

>>25626
It would also be disruptive to economies, as such executives have power/influence and not only would it shake stocks and other things but the subsequent predatory rush from their underlings to take the vacated seat would result in severe infighting to companies.

>>25638
Some people just like to watch the world burn.

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Heres a nice read on Light's mistakes:
https://gwern.net/death-note-anonymity

>>22889
I like batman too, but I think there is some flirtation with fascistic politics in the works depending who writes the plot. I personally think that most of the criticism could be “fixed” if batman media stopped bringing back the super villians for every days or making gotham “cursed” to be forever corrupt.

>>25684
This Gwern person is such a nerd

>>3369
It's worth considering that it was published in shonen jump.
It's a fun dynamic and drama but it's not supossed to be taken seriously onto a extreme


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