I love death note. And I love light yagami as a character.
However it was very obvious that his entire worldview is extremely… reactionary I guess? Or like darwinist? Killing criminals and not trying to fix underlying problems is obvioiusly retarded. I wonder if any normalfags were able to make this obsevation
>>3369>And I love light yagami as a character.you missed the point of the show entirely.
>>4177also this
>>3756Can I watch these if I haven't read/watched Death Note?
>>4180>you missed the point of the show entirely.He literally said Light is retarded
>>4194>read/watched Death noteAssuming you mean the anime/manga, yes. The Netflix version of Death Note has about as much to do with Death Note as the M.Nights Avatar: The Last Airbender movie. However I do suggest reading the first 10 chapters of the manga (or episodes of the anime) before starting the reviews, if only to get some of the references E;R makes.
The only good part of the Netflix series IMO is that Willem Dafoe voices Ryuuk
>>3369Probably everyone who has seen it. It's just fun watching this insane fuck blindly going about killing millions of people and plus the 4d chess cat and mouse game in the show.
Thinking the show is anything but is just a losing game on the analization side.
>>3780>>8351>>3381>>8351We should ban these type of posts, all these are is you guys just declaring your opinion (generally to put yourself above others) and not elaborating on anything. These don't fuel the conversation at all, unless the conversation your having with is a wall.
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http://www.nerdragecomic.com/index.php?date=2017-03-31>>10176what a retarded view. Most criminals he killed were either already in jail, or suspects only. Most criminals aren't that dangerous and are normal people. Leaders were still corrupt after he was there, given his limited access to relevant information for this (actually hed prolly be pretty ez to use as a tool to get rid of some enemies if you control medias), and the fact that you dont fix an org by killing the leadership, most problems are systemics (in fact, prolly more likely you worsen the situation).
Only a complete brainlet with baby tier understanding of the world could support light actions, even discounting his ego and god complex.
>>10178True in a sense, but frankly Light had no method of being caught if he didn't try and reveal himself and even then L's method is bullshit TBH. He only did all those things because the moral of the story is megalomania is bad and so they needed to have him fuck up and do things that are shit, or there'd be no story. Obviously mass-murder isn't good, but the story kinda fails to prove it, as the net good that he contributed outdoes the net bad
>>10179 >Most criminals he killed were either already in jailAnd that's good? There's a reason the Gulag only had 10-15 years maximum sentences and had prisoners do hard labor, people sitting in jail eating food and money from the state is inefficient and if you're going to imprison people for so long to no purpose Light's idea of killing them makes sense. Mind you I'm not condoning prison murder or shit like that, just pointing out the conceptual reason.
>only suspects Something that is called inconsistent writing - it is out of character for Light to kill mere suspects that aren't proven criminals given his analytical nature, god complex or not, (though I suppose this may also be allegory to Japan's ~90% incarceration rate of suspects).
>Most criminals aren't that dangerous and are normal people If I recall correctly he got rid of high-security prisoners/suspects involved in armed robbery, murder and other violent crime, not pickpockets and druggies.
>Leaders were still corrupt after he was there Probably, that is more of a V-for-Vendetta tier fantasy action than a 100% serious idea of "just kill the corrupt"
>he'd prolly be pretty ez to use as a tool to get rid of some enemies if you control medias That's a pretty intriguing idea
Does Death Note compare to Code Geass? There IS a lot of similarity in the protagonists. They’re both anime in which a brilliant school student, disgusted at the world’s current state, comes across a supernatural power with which he uses to become a faceless vigilante. Throughout the shows both Kira and Zero attempt to cleanse society whilst also trying to keep their true identities secret alongside their relatively innocent high school lives. Also keep in mind that the Death Note and the Geass power are quite similar in that you can use both to control your victims.
They’re not extremely alike, but as two incredibly popular anime, these similarities are bound to draw some comparisons.
https://archive.ph/dwbIT>>11704its just facts
the whole show is just the idea of bringing back the death penalty with the efficiency of immediate results - the only moral disagreement is either the idea that killing is inherently wrong (which it obviously isnt, for violent criminals) or that violent crime should be forgiven (which costs time and money and public morality, really).
Near and L make it about the morality of holding absolute power - but if kira doesnt then who does? the state? its the same difference. near calls light a "serial killer" yet kira shows empirical improvements to civilisation - theres no real grey area, which would have improved the show's complexity - if it showed kira mercilessly slaying petty thieves who were poor or whatever, that would have been good - but i think the creators are clearly on the side of light, which is why he loses in the most autistic way possible - because he couldnt lose if he really wanted to win - but i guess you can say that he lost because of his narcissism or whatever, but nobody really thinks the ending is epic, except his evil laugh and stuff.
i support the death penalty so maybe i am biased, but not supporting it also must have its justifications, its not simply given on its own terms.
kira was cleaning up the trash - imagine if a real bad guy got the death note, a guy killing world leaders and destabilising the earth. kira is very conservative since he rules by his own self-righteousness and not by chaos.
>>11706True, but as
>>10179 and
>>10178 pointed out, his methods are les than ideal, and come from narcissism rather than as genuine justice.
>>11696Light doesn't kill criminals only, since he killed L and tried to kill the special task force, and they were not criminals -being opposed to Kira while doing nothing wrong is a crime in the new world?-, also he uses Misa for his own fucked up purposes, he never does the shit he does because he's "good" he does all that because he's a massive faggot with a narcissistic personality disorder that wants to be a literal god, he even says so himself multiple times.
Fuck him and fuck his simps.
>>3369he saw that there where injustices in the world and when life gave him a hammer everything started looking like a nail. ironically i think that being raised in a police family gave him the enforcer mindset and the attitude that he had to be exempt from the law in order to enforce it as well as a very one dimensional view of crime. he was so obsessed with "Justice" through violence that he was never really the utilitarian he thought himself to be, he could control how people died but never made a billionaire liquidate and donate all his assets to charity or something else that would save lives because he only used his
hammer to drive more nails into the system rather than thinking how he could use the puller on the back to take it apart.
>>14651If the plot hadn't made him intentionally arrogant Light'd start by being careful. The death note is totally untraceable, so if I live my life right, he can be Kira without ever being caught. Use TOR only, learn about my victims through the internet, and various news sources. Proxy, vpn, etc.
He'd kill world leaders. Cause chaos in the US ruling class by continuously assassinating pretty much every high-up in the government. The president is replaced every week. Senators drop like flies. The most reactionary and violent world leaders be targeted. All the neo-nazi leaders of the world die. Religious and cult leaders die. High profile reactionaries die. Kissinger dies. Elon Musk dies. Oil executives, war criminals, radical terrorists, nationalists of various countries, warmongers, they all die. Heart attacks only. No patterns. No messages. The media will inevitably go nuts, and be filled with suspicion and all sorts of insane theories. Most likely they'll blame China. Ignore any attempts by media or government agencies to try and draw me out by challenging me or asking me to give a message or insulting the unknown killer's pride or spreading fake rumors.
The international bourgeoisie will be brought to utter panic. All their leaders dying constantly they will be in a state of constant uncertainty. They all distrust each other. The people lost faith in their ability to lead. They have an immensely difficult time maintaining their power. To the people Kira becomes a sort of folk hero. Religious people consider it to be an act of god, intervening on behalf of the people, and officially declaring the bourgeoisie to be sinful and unfit to rule.
But if less than 100 people die the first two days, before anybody can even react or make a connection, you're doing a bad job. you'd either have to go really slow and discreet or really fast because once porky realizes (sorta) what's happening, there's gonna be insane amounts of resources poured into investigating. It might well end with every person on the planet being directly surveilled 24/7 by flea-sized drones and whatnot and by then it's game over for you. A good strategy is to rotate countries but sometimes stay in one to throw off investigation. ideally Kira doesn't want them to know where he even lives by seeing patterns of when people die etc. It's a lot of work.
I'm not sure if this would actually create any positive change in the long run but damn the threads on here about it would be insane. And you just know the memes would be amazing. The problem is Kira is an egomaniac, he literally joins the investigation into himself, if he was actually smart then he would have just got some random unnoticeable job and just run the world from his bedroom, he killed people primarily on Japanese news, that's how L knew he was in Japan… although it'd be a hilarious move if he'd been a American Otaku mad about Japanese socio-economics ruining his /jp/ fantasies.
>>14651The control before death part seems the most intersting thing.
Can you imagine making all haed of state release their countries top secret intel everywhere on the Internet before they kick the bucket?
Not to mention you can make the perfect false flags.
>>18412Who are you replying to?
>>18410 I mean in some ways he starts off as an anti-hero, taking action against the vile elements that societies mechanisms fail to stop, but it just derails into a serial killers murder spree.
>>22873I remembered how in Deus Ex when you beat up radicals they'll call you a fascist. Now imagine it was Batman. It still works.
Although to be fair to Batman he was rescuing political prisoners in Arkham City but I think he's still a counter-revolutionary (Dark Knight Rises comes to mind).
>>22872The batman thing is funny because writers kind of noticed this criticism so they decided to make him a super entrepreneur who donates all his money all the time and yet his money donations just cannot stop crime.
Which in a way just enforces the reactionary ideology by making the crime rate of Gotham less of a system thing and more of a people thing. Now there even is a “counter culture” group of lib comic fans who get annoyed when you say anything about superhero politics that in anyways criticise them, they for example point to batman donating his money as an argument that he isn’t a fashoid.
>>25576>Does high IQ necessarily equate distrust of the status quo thoughNo, but Kira demonstrates the fact that he thinks the system isn't doing enough and that he knows better, hence him taking "justice" into his own hands.
>Light probably doesn't even have time to watch anime, let alone read Capital Vol. 1 You don't need to read Capital to be radicalized or anti-establishment. Plenty of people and movements began without any such reading. Marx's work is just better for understanding the details of problems, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out basic issues and look at the cause of things beyond simple interactions on a basic level of society. The fact is that he's a narcissist who's hyper-intelligent but fails to see the forest for the trees and thinks his first conclusion about society (and fixing it) is the right one.
>>25574 Nice slew of memes.
>>25609It would mean five less pensions to be delivered.
It would mean a few dozen less sex slaves being dicked around.
It would mean five less zionists.
>>3369It's worth considering that it was published in shonen jump.
It's a fun dynamic and drama but it's not supossed to be taken seriously onto a extreme
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