No.796
IMO, The Youjo Senki movie just felt like hours of Tanya yelling and screaming about gommies
No.797
That movie was a mess. It was miserable seeing it in theaters with the autistic /pol/acks that wouldn't shut up. I never got that far in the LNs, but I heard the movie changed a ton of shit just to be more anti-commie.
No.798
Why would you watch that nazi shit in the first place?
No.799
What the fuck. There exists anti-communist anime?
Figures as expected from a axis nationalist rightard country
No.800
>>797Damn really? Cucks.
>>798It's funny to see Tanya constantly fuck herself over by being too edgy
>>799The series wasn't anti communist
No.802
>>801I wouldn't trust the author about being a commie, he tweeted some retarded shit about being "both conservative and anti-capitalist" so he's most likely a /pol/tard.
No.803
>>802Idk his name on twitter is comrade something and his previous light novel was about the breakup of Yugoslavia and how the main character wants to prevent it because even if it's not utopia at least it's better than what followed.
No.805
>>798>>799>>802The author isn't anti-commie. He actually calls himself a commie hobbyist or something that I think basically means Soviet LARPer rather than an actual communist. His novel, Yakusoku no Kuni, is actually about communist stuff.
The main character in Youjo Senki is depicted as an evil free-market sociopath. She isn't at all the good guy in the story. I think the anime makes her seem more likeable than the book.
No.806
I know that the palace never got built IRL this is just a movie (which I didn't even see), but you made me pretty sad OP.
No.807
>>797>the movie changed a ton of shit just to be more anti-commie.Considering that the LN writer is a communist and Tanya was a literal mockery of /pol/ mentality, that is true.
No.808
>>801That thread was hilarious, the /pol/ weebs were shitting themselves
No.810
>>809>there's a zizek posterUnexpectedly based for /a/
No.811
I wonder what the author had to say of this change or if it was in the original series?
No.812
>>811If I were the author I'd be too busy counting my fat stacks of cash to care.
No.813
>>812True, however the author is a supposed communist which is why I ask
No.814
>>813Hobbyist communists are not communists
No.815
>>814Not everyone can be a LARPing anarchist m8.
No.816
>>815I wonder if there're any anarchist LARPers in Japan.
No.817
>>816I'm sure there are some who fantasize about the glory days of Zengakuren; how could they not?
No.818
>>817Zengakuren is still active, they're more socialist than anarchists though. I think they did a series of videos for the 100th anniversary of the october revolution.
No.819
>>818I'd be interested in seeing those; wonder if they're anything like what the JCP's done rebranding with virtual idols.
No.820
>>819They look anything but communists, Japanese politics is kinda weird.
No.821
>>819> virtual idolsProbably will if they haven't
No.822
Has anyone read the recent manga about Soviet Women in WW-2? I want to know if its worth a read.
Its called “The Unwomanly Face of War Vol. 1” by Kadokawa Corp. The name is a clear reference to the Nobel winning Search Results
Web results The Unwomanly Face of War by Svetlana Alexievich, which details excerpts from many female soldiers of the war.
http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/13353361 No.2415
So anything new with Tanya?
No.2436
I didn't get why people loved this anime so much. There was no real tension to it because Tanya just won everything she faced and she wasn't even likeable so it wasn't cathartic, it was just boring.
No.2437
>>2436Because blood, gore action and edgy MC appeal to Western audiences and Japanese.
No.2447
Can the LN author sue the Movie makers for defamation of his work?
No.2765
>>2764Just read the LNs. I'm sure they are all on nyaa.
No.3778
>>795I know the manga mocks the right-wing ideology but god I find Tanya an insufferable cunt.
No.3883
>>2436 Isekaishit with a nazi little girl as MC. Do the math.
No.3885
>>2436 welcome to isekai, an infantile disorder
No.3908
>>2436I never watch the anime but from what I heard it's dramatically different from the light novels and manga. Tanya in the manga is basically a social inept fool that constantly get himself into worse situations.
An example would be Tanya say x thing hoping to be taken off the battlefield and put on desk duty. The higher ups thinks
>THIS GIRL IS OVERFLOWING WITH PATRIOTIC DUTY!<THIS GIRL IS OVERFLOWING WITH PSYCHOPATHIC BLOODLUST!
"WE MUST GET HER TO THE FRONTLINES IMMEDIATELY!
No.3910
>>3885>implyng Isekai can't be mature and interesting<not understanding that Isekai is a reflection of human alienation and depression under capitalism
Come on now
No.3911
>>3908>Tanya in the manga is basically a social inept fool that constantly get himself into worse situations.the LN/Manga Tanya is more "le classic business-shark" who keeps using his first-world capitalist mindset in a utterly different setting because they're stupidly defiant of "God X" telling them that 'no, being a selfish cunt is bad'. As a result voila, the "clever plans" Tanya thinks of become sores on her butthurt arse.
No.3914
>>3911You explained it a bit better than I did though I feel my core point still stands. Youjo Senki is a comedy of misunderstanding a good amount of the time. I can see the author being a leftist from how much the series takes the piss out of Tanya's capitalist views. Too bad the anime seemed to go the whole Nazi Loli route.
No.3915
>>3914Yeah. I fuckin' hate Nazi loli and how popular it was. It's not as popular anymore, but back when loli was more freely posted on the internet, it was fucking everywhere.
No.3916
>>3915I get that most adaptations are shit but they really did this series dirty.
No.3922
>>3916They can't help it… for the monies
No.3930
>>3910 So close yet so far.
No.3931
>>3910 From the 1% of isekai that are decent most of them could get rid of the isekai aspect and nothing would change.
No.3940
>>3931Wrong. In 90% of garbage Isekai anime, removing the Isekai portion would do little to change the plot, while in the best Isekai, it is inherently required and cannot be simply replaced with a set-up beginning motivation a la the start of Bleach.
The point of an Isekai is that a character is displaced from their own world and thus their interactions with the new world differ to the native inhabitants. It creates an interesting diversion from the path of the world. Even Subaru, weakass that he is, changes the path of his world with relatively simple changes. If there are no stakes or important changes we lose the point of the entire Isekai, and it becomes a bland power-fantasy. Bland power fantasies can be fun escapism, but in the longrun are tiresome.
SAO abridged for example, does something interesting. While the world is digital and essentially fake, the characters themselves are important and their displaced situation. Kirito, who is a loser IRL, gets to be his 'dream self' in the game, but the reality is that no-matter how many swordskills he has, his social skills and understanding had to change for things to matter. He had a long and varied character arc of him reaching conclusions or almost getting it, only to have it taken away again and again until he finally reached it in a climactic battle. he then continued developing this newly found conclusion, on slow burn and realistic takes of teenage drama (played humorously). By the final battle, he put aside his own desire to remain awesome in the game and freed SAO's players from the game and it's fake life. The original SAO never quite gets this unfortunately.
>>3930>sagingthis is getting boring
No.4273
>>3940I agree that for the good isekai that removing the isekai from the series would actually hurt it. I think for the shittier anime they might actually improve going the standard fantasy route. At least they are less likely to have been greenlit as it appears standards are non-existent so long as a series is isekai.
It amazes me how much better SAO Abridged was than the actual anime.
No.4275
>>4273>they are less likely to have been greenlit as it appears standards are non-existent so long as a series is isekaiIndeed, nice triple 6s BTW
No.4825
>>4824https://boards.4channel.org/a/thread/211994886 >commies are wasteful<weebs calling communists wasteful
Hahaha
No.4826
>>4825 I don't remember /a/ being this political and especially not being this partisan.
No.4827
>>4824Now this feels out of character. What the fuck?
Since when did she even care about the deaths of other humans?
No.4830
>>4827>>4826It's been like this for years, and getting worse. The sheer cope is hilarious. I've gotten banned twice already just for posting literal sources.
No.4831
>>4830 /pol/ killing modcat was the beginning of the end of /a/.
No.4833
>>4831lel, they really are the culture subverters they claim to hate.
No.4836
>>4830I have no idea why there is s age in this post, I don't remember typing that s*ge in.
>>4831>>4833Pretty much
No.4841
>>801>>4825>>4824TL;DR: It's become common knowledge to /a/ that Tanya was meant to be satirical of fascism, so now, instead of getting mad about that "ruining" the show, they now are trying to play it as "the parody isn't a parody because it's right".
No.4844
>>4825I find it somewhat hilarious that every thread on 4chan, be it in /co/ or /a/ or any other such content, any mention of communism in positive light inevitably leads to an utter derailment of the thread over moralfag whining about "commie crimes". And the mods only ban posters defending leftist.
No.4855
>>797>the movie changed a ton of shit just to be more anti-commieThe anime did too, making the Empire go from a satirical depiction and instead gets depicted positively, probably cause some fascist LARPers are the animators.
No.4878
>>4824reposting from /b/
you can still watch the anime on china for some reason…
No.4888
>watch isekai
>it's shit
how could this happen
No.4899
>>4888Oh look it's the Isekai hatefag with more unoriginal sageposting. Stay mad
No.4974
>>4878Hopefully not for long… though it does demonstrate hypocrisy of the regime.
No.4981
>>4878does this confirm that the chinese are nazis?
No.4983
>>4899 You're funny as fuck.
No.4996
>>4983As are you.
>>4981Nah, just that they're revisionist
No.5027
Clearly everything that isn't exactly praise of glorious communism and the thought of Xi should be banned.
>>4878This "China banned X" bullshit is the new "KIM JONG UN VORED HIS UNCLES WITH THE DRAGON DILDO WHILE DABBING" baitj. There's nothing preventing people from streaming most anime legally or CalArts degeneracy alongside the "Das Kapital" game shows, if anything the Japanese are more willing to licence to the Chinese than the usual overseas companies.
No.5221
feels like every thread featuring youjo senki is going to have right wingers whining about communism from now on
https://boards.4channel.org/a/thread/212618642 No.5224
>>5027>KIM JONG UN VORED HIS UNCLES WITH THE DRAGON DILDO WHILE DABBINGHahahaha fucking what?
No.5225
>>5027>nothing preventing people from streaming most anime legallyAgreed
>or CalArts degeneracyFuck that, even garbage anime doesn't fall that far.
No.5390
>>796That's what it was, so yes indeed.
No.8880
Tanya is a masochistic, stupid gormless faggot wallowing in her own self-pity at being 'persecuted' by Being X (God) while being simultaneously smug and OP. A literal wehraboo Self-Insert who even created loophole documents just for a justification of her literal war crimes.
Her only way out is for her to die, denying being X and either be reborn again or have her soul erased, because there is no other way of ending the series without it being unsatisfactory. Think about the possible endings
>Tanya starts worshiping GodThat would be very unsatisfying, with the protagonist just rolling over.
>Being X is exposed as some kind of fraudDidn't the manga flat-out confirm we're dealing with capital G God here (and Buddha is also around for some reason)?
>Open ending in which the conflict persistsGee, thanks for wasting our time.
>Sonzai X losesOkay… how exactly? What exactly can Tanya even do?
>>801A funny as this is, the author isn't a real commie. If anything Carlo seems to hate the USSR just as much as Tanya does. Why else would you have Beria as the only historical character to be in both the OTL and Tanya's timeline? And furthermore, there was no alt!Zhukov in sight, so not only is the most prominent communist in the series a pedophile who puts getting that sweet duck butt over the lives of his men and the outcome of the war; but there are no positive examples of not!Soviets who could actually give Tanya serious problems. The fact is that Carlo's ideology is post-ideology. The entire thesis of Youjo Senki is that average modern day office worker is more of a monster than the average general on a World War battle field; purely because we readily act without morals or principles while using ideology and hierarchy to justify it -something only top level Nazis tried during Nuremberg as a last resort. But now that's just what any modern individual would do. We just don't genocide undesirables openly anymore, because that'd mean we'd have to let the mask slip a little.
The recent movie is not a satire and the manga actually has nearly open nazi imagery rather than generic German aesthetic the anime does. It's shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3A0HsRWJk8&ab_channel=Taganay No.8881
HIlariously the WN is even worse than the LN and manga
I don't remember the order but
>USA nukes one of empires defensive lines
>empire is losing
>empire does actions to minimize losses from surrender, including purging all the leftist commie scum in government to decrease russian influence
>tanya & co steals remaining nuclear warheads from USA
>empire negotiates with USA, multiple demands for surrendering including mary and the person who authorized nuke launch (POTUS)
>tanya & co is "KIA"
>mary is killed by troops who were relatives to a civilian location she destroyed by friendy fire
>empire surrenders
>POTUS is has an "heart attack"
>tanya & co hides the nukes and then goes off radar in a submarine
>USA intelligence agency sweating bullets
>negotiations are settled later, tanya and co are taken in via US withness protection program, new identities forged as the crew settles down
>tanya ends up in hands of scientists who concludes that her bodily growth stopped at 9 due to excess stress and malnutrition after research
>they tamper with her permanently changing her hair and eye color
>"tasha" enrolls in US airforce/navy academy, later leaves saying she wants to be an entrepreneur
>establishes a PMC where officers are her previous crew, US intelligence becomes one of their main customers
>new market player only known by nickname hogs shit, involved and invests in all sorts of shit and right before they make a big leap in networth ranging from oil to the cola bottle patent
>reporter doing after war research traces her as far as the PMC, only to find the PMC already liquidated and the person known as tasha not existing
No.8907
>>8880>Why else would you have Beria as the only historical character to be in both the OTL and Tanya's timeline? And furthermore, there was no alt!Zhukov in sight, so not only is the most prominent communist in the series a pedophile who puts getting that sweet duck butt over the lives of his men and the outcome of the warWas the pedo shit mentioned there or are you just drinking liberal propaganda? Beria wasn't a pedo.
No.8908
We should not allow ourselves to give anything that can be described as "Nazi loli isekai" more than five seconds of our time
No.8914
>>8907The pedoshit is in the series, he's literally a slavering lolicon in the anime and manga. I know he wasn't actually a pedo.
>>8908Eh, it's fun to shit on.
No.8927
>>8914>The pedoshit is in the series, he's literally a slavering lolicon in the anime and manga. I know he wasn't actually a pedo. Ok. Sorry then.
No.8937
>>800It’s ironically anti-communist but considering how fascist and retarded most weebs are they won’t even notice.
No.8939
>>8914>>8914>The pedoshit is in the series, he's literally a slavering lolicon in the anime and manga. I know he wasn't actually a pedo. what the fuck
No.8952
>>8937There is only so much "ironic" you can make something before it becomes unironic. Tanya doesn't really suffer except some symbolic garbage that Being X does, Tanya is overpowered as fuck, has Mary-Sue plot armor and pulls off ridiculous "combat" that can be summarized as "aggressive suicide" that somehow works without any losses. It's a Wehraboo Weeb's wetdream Self-insert WW2 fanfic.
>>8939Yep, probably one of the most retardedly disturbing things of the movie.
No.9643
I hate this anime because of that retarded Isekai Quartet moe-blob it had, which means that it's a pain in the ass to filter it out of search results when doing something like looking up crossover material between RE:Zero and Konosuba.
No.9706
>>795>Tanja blows up the palace of the soviets<"Hurr they should'a built it better, durr"I find it hilarious how they use Russian Federation and Soviet Union interchangeably. That's not even talking about the USSR being given the Dora mega-cannon.
Seriously, whoever made this was not just throwing together aesthetic, they paid close attention to what they were alluding to
>Tanya: Looks like their "People's Palace" was more fragile than it looked. Guess they shouldn't have rushed the construction so much.>Viktoriya: Looks like they shouldn't have rationed the concrete so much.This is contrasted with how the Kremlin equivalent is barely dented by the magical volleys. You know, pre-revolution stuff, implying that "muh Russian Empire good" shite, which is fucking ironic coming from the Japanese.
Honestly the entire film - from it having the USSR be the aggressor to the meme poor air defense - was a giant cope by wehraboos making a fake, fetishized alternate universe where the shining Germany beat le evul gommies, down to the scene where the German Iron cross flag and Eagle was held over a Soviet building, in parody of the iconic raising of the Soviet Flag on the Reichstag as a symbol of triumph over the Nazis, y'know pic related.
And out of everything this is exactly why this show is popular - because most weebs are also /pol/-faggots who rant about communism in the same dogmatic propaganda view Example:
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/207924515/Also I hate Tanya's retarded face. It's the smug look of a 80 autism score faggot who thinks they're smarter than they are. The only reason it works out is plot contrivance and Mary Sue superpowers handed to her on a silver platter.
No.10394
>Brutal war anime with German sympathy
<inserts moeshit and anime gags
Ptoo
No.11040
>The Confederation of Socialist Republics Hiltria. With the slogan together in a brotherly love 5 republics and 5 ethnicities manage to coexist with difficulty. Coming from the future, David Ernst will rise in fame with his comrades as a Hero of the Confederation. Searching for the right answer between Self determinism and Socialism, to lead his country toward the right future.-
https://myanimelist.net/manga/87945/Yakusoku_no_KuniNazis loved the show, and then got ass-blasted that it was actually a leftist satire. They got so caught up in the LARP, they missed the brazenly obvious critique of the militant fascistic capitalism of the show.
The author called himself a 共産趣味, Literal translation would be something like "hobbyist communism".
Here's the Wikipedia article about it:
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%85%B1%E7%94%A3%E8%B6%A3%E5%91%B3共産趣味 (Kyousan-shumi) is just a play on words from 共産主義 (Kyousan-shugi = Communism) since shumi and shugi sound similar. It's just an obsession with communist (and especially ☭TANKIE☭) aesthetic, nothing more. Most of them don't believe in communism, some of them have actual sympathies, some others are plainly anti-communist.
Carlo Zen is more of a radical centrist, maybe leaning liberal as he's big on democracy.
However in the author's case here I'd say he really is a commie, as his tweets show. (reposting links here)
https://twitter.com/sonzaix/status/797443693619789824 Communism and democracy happen naturally.
https://twitter.com/sonzaix/status/831521445528293376 Capitalism is poisoning your minds.
https://ask.fm/sonzaix/answers/136064941724 Comrade, I'm a faithful follower of hobbyist communism.
Original desu thread link:
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/165413269So does anyone want to do a more in-depth break down of the show?
I'll start by re-posting.
If you actually look at Tanya, she's presented as a horrible person and a fascistic capitalist who wants to show the world Chicago School Economics. The author is directly trying to show how sociopathic bosses are terrible people and would become mass murderers in a heartbeat if given the power.
Right wingers don't see this since they want to self insert themselves as the 30 year old who gets isekaied into a loli Hitler.
>>809The fact that even Nitter is laughing at this is indicative of the pathetic status of modern 4chan.
https://twitter.com/TakesRight/status/1160849611218653184 No.11042
>>11041True, and a real shame at that. I think that also might be the reason that Youjo Senki derailed from a satire into unironic wehraboo shit.
>>9706 No.11047
>>11041I like the symbol on the patch
No.11053
>>11041Do japanese leftists excel at some area like how american entertaiment is full of liberals or is japan too rightwards for that?
No.11054
>>11053They're useless nowadays lol, they don't even manage to make any anime
No.11056
>>11053Takeshi Kitano recently said he's gonna vote for the JCP, does that count? In Japan is better to not express political opinions if you aren't a LDP lapdog.
For example, last year, the famous mangaka Naoki Urasawa posted on twitter a doodle he made of Abe wearing a mask in reference to the two masks the government sent to everyone and got lynched for being "disrespectful". There were also people who supported him of course, but IIRC he was forced to take it down.
No.11239
>>11056better than nothing
respectful sage, I forgot I made this post until now
No.12954
youjo senki getting coopted by dumbass rightoids is the funniest thing
sure the author might be a liberal who only larps as a communist online but still
the movie being outright anticommunist without the authors input was even more pathetic
No.13075
>>12907I hate her fucking frog face
No.13094
>>13075Same, ergo the pic.
No.13099
>>12954Yeah it does seem like a weirdly pathetic larp.
No.13104
>>809what the fuck happened to /a/ holy shit
nothing but fashies whining about communism
its also telling that despite having more explicit pictures posted than ever theres also a huge increase in accusations of degeneracy
i miss the old times when liking futa or weird shit in general was accepted and even expected, now its nothing but normals
No.13105
>>3884this baldie is based as fuck despite being a huge larper
>anarchist fascist>>804is it not? while gate pretends japan never committed war crimes this work literally made the nazis win over the soviets and presented that as a good thing
No.13108
>>13104>the old times when liking futa or weird shit in general was accepted and even expected, now its nothing but normalsOk n00b, futa and trap content got popular on 4chan in the late 2000s and mid 2010s, it was present in weeb circles before that but not as widely accepted, until crap like Stainless Night came out.
Futa and trap became the norm on /a/ and 4chan in general and continues to be so, they're just hypocrites about it on most boards.
No.13110
>>13108thanks for agreeing with me? im glad im not this insecure
No.13115
>>13108Lmao what do people get out of acting like this?
>they're just hypocrites about it on most boardsIt's what happens with the whole "my tastes > your tastes" behavior that the entirety of 4chan has cultivated, or rather, grew like an infection, which you yourself are exhibiting. Now they call everyone else a degen while having a bunch of fetishes themselves. Alternatively, calling them gay.
The irrational hatred against trans people is also peculiar when around 2005-2006 it was a common desire to become an anime girl, or "the little girl".
No.13119
>>13110>im glad im not this insecureDo I need to add /s to my posts to avoid confusion anymore? Is the blatant tone of it not obvious enough?
>>13115>you yourself are exhibitingFucking how? I've made no judgement here or there on the good or bad of futa, I just stated the dynamics of the time and confirmed the point of the other anon alongside blatant sarcasm.
>around 2005-2006 it was a common desire to become an anime girBecause most of the people that sought that had not been trans, but people that crossdressed and kept it cool, they mostly separated fiction and reality, those that did not had been mocked since forever and the behavior of vocal trans minorities on chans presented a poor image of the overall group that fed the notion of delusional people that took fictional LARP too far, annoying everyone else and leading to dislike that /pol/ capitalized on.
No.13865
>>13119>Because most of the people that sought that had not been trans, but people that crossdressed and kept it cool, they mostly separated fiction and reality, those that did not had been mocked since forever and the behavior of vocal trans minorities on chans presented a poor image of the overall group that fed the notion of delusional people that took fictional LARP too far, annoying everyone else and leading to dislike that /pol/ capitalized on.nah, there's a lot of transhumanists on 4chan, particularily from places such as /a/, /r9k/ and /jp/. they did actually want to be the little girl, and while they were in the minority, they didn't piss off most people until the transhumanist culture wars and the rightward shift of the website caused by stormfags came along.
not that i'm an oldfag or anything, but my opinion is based on browsing the archives and talking to oldfags and newfags alike. there's still threads on /a/ from time to time where anons cry over not being born anime girls, though a lot of the time they're silenced by /pol/yps or saying they'll never be women. it's pretty sad
No.13866
>>13108>>13104Are you guys dumb or what? In the 2000s futa shit and trap shit were considered pretty taboo and some of the most "extreme" fetishes, that's why they made /d/. Nowadays, both futa shit and trap shit are fucking everywhere to the point that /aco/ is at least 70% futa shit.
No.13877
>>13866Talking/joking about dickgirls was pretty normal on the anime boards.
No.15281
>"good" old days of /a/
The rest of the internet wasn't filled with prudes either back then.
No.15283
>>152811) link to the post you are responding to
2) Ok, nobody is denying that
No.15284
>>15282>A) Biological age of a child >B) That its the mind and 'soul' of a 40 year old businessman that makes it better
No.15285
>>15282So you get to fuck a middle-aged midget
and a fascist at the same time?
No.15287
>>15286funny reaction face
No.15289
>>15288No, but thanks for that picture.
No.15299
>>15288>The character named "Mary Sue" is railing the actual Mary Sue of the story. LMAO
No.18069
>>11050i love her and i love katyusha
No.18071
>>18069based Sumipe enjoyer
No.20873
>>2447I mean he kinda has final approval of the films' direction I'm pretty sure. It's not like anime filler where the author doesn't necessarily have control over it, as the movie is officially canon to the timeline narratively.
No.20883
So I've never seen the show apart from a few clips, but the concept of a viciously anti-communist loli anime entrigued me so much that I had to look into it. I didn't watch the or read the LN (though I think ill do the latter aftet this), but I read a bunch of plot summaries, looked into some discussions on forums and such. From what I can tell, the LN is a lot less cartoonishly anti-communist than the show comes off as. Part of that is the technical limitations of the medium (a lot of Tanya's internal monologue and character development are cut for time), part of it is pandering to weebs with le based explosion loli shit. Part of it is just where the movie leaves off (iirc volume 4 of the LN). It seems like without these elements, a lot of the point of the LN is lost. Idk about Carlo Zen being an actual socialist of any sort, but it's immediately obvious from his book about trying to prevent the collapse of not-Yugoslavia that his views on communism are fairly nuanced. At worst it seems like he has somewhat of a normie view of the USSR in WW2 which goes something like this:
>Stalin purges all his generals because he's paranoid and/or bloodthirsty
>Soviet army is poorly led and inept at the start of the war as a result, human waves, overly centralized command, etc
>Soviets learn from their mistakes and gradually fix them, becoming more effective as the war goes on
The parallel to this in the Youjo Senki is that the not-Soviets have gulaged all their mages because they had all been high ranking officers in the Tsarist army, which is why they get BTFO so hard in the film. However the story continues for like 10 or 11 volumes after that, and in keeping with Zen's normie view of Soviet military history they eventually get their shit together by releasing the imprisoned mages and putting them back into service, and also resuming training of new ones.
Another thing that's apparently lost in the anime is how self-destructive Tanya's psychopathy is, which is in turn linked to her Ayn Rand tier worldviews. For example there are numerous examples in the LN where her excessive violence leads to more fanatical resistance and actually makes things harder for the Empire. With the not-Soviets for example, the attack on not-Moscow basically destroys any chance of negotiations which eventually leads to the defeat of the Empire. Finally there's the issue of Tanya herself, and how it's made much more clear in the LN how she's absolutely miserable and is desperately trying to get removed from front line service.
I think that Youjo Senki may suffer from a kind of reverse Starship Troopers situation, where an unironically fascist novel is made into an anti-fascist film. Here it seems like the opposite, where the limitations of the medium and the fact that it ends where it does in the storyline obscures a lot of elements which point to criticism of fascism and market fundamentalist ideology. The result is that it's really easy for fascists to watch it and love it, simply because so many of the critical elements of the LN are missing from the anime.
TLDR: Zen is not a fanatical anti-communist, the not-Soviets are only shown as being so incompetent at the beginning of the war and get their shit together later and eventually win the war, Tanya isn't le based loli Hitler but is completely miserable and her psychopathic worldview is self-destructive and counter-productive to the government she serves.
No.20887
>>15282to be totally fair, he was like 12 at the time
No.20888
>>15282its a fictional character my man
No.20893
>>20883Based effortpost anon.
>>20887 I get that, it was just funny to note and /a/ went nuts over it.
No.20913
>>20900Thanks friendo, there's actually a thread about the manga
>>6170 No.21098
>>21096It used to be a 4chan x reddit lite site that was fairly popular among school kids because it was accessible unlike 4chan which was blocked by a lot of school DNS's. It lost a lot of users over time as the forum closed itself to anonymous users and is kinda just a relic of a different time on the internet. There was even a version of leftypol on it at one time.
I just saved pic rel a long while back.
No.22506
>>8880>Why else would you have Beria as the only historical character to be in both the OTL and Tanya's timeline? And furthermore, there was no alt!Zhukov in sight, so not only is the most prominent communist in the series a pedophile who puts getting that sweet duck butt over the lives of his men and the outcome of the war; but there are no positive examples of not!Soviets who could actually give Tanya serious problems. Tbh I think again that this is an issue of the adaptation rather than the source material. In the LN there are communist characters that are portrayed positively, and the Russy army does get its shit together and actually become formidable, eventually winning the war. Iirc they do have a general that is an analogy for Zhukov, but he doesn't appear until several volumes after the film ends. As for Beria, I think his purpose is more as a plot device to further criticize what Tanya embodies. He only becomes aware of her because she goes out of her way to publicize the attack. So in other words, in addition to destroying any chance of peace and ultimately dooming the Empire, Tanya's hubris makes herself a specific target. The whole thing is ultimately self-destructive. The issue of course is that Zen is making this point through the use of common myths about the USSR, but the point itself is to criticize Tanya's ruthlessness and pride rather than to show how evil communists are. Whether that was the intention in the adaptation is unclear. We'll have to wait for season two which should cover the next few volumes, which do include victories for the communists.
Also worth noting that for all her OP abilities, Tanya is less powerful than Mary Sioux precisely because she doesn't actually believe in God, has no empathy, etc.
No.22974
Haven't been on /a/ in a long while, are they still simping for this smug-faced mary sue child?
No.23015
>>22974I wouldn't call her a Mary Sue since she's always fucking herself over with her own arrogance and brutality. I'm pretty sure part of the point is that all the power and ability in the world is pretty useless if you wield it in a self destructive (i.e. ruthless and selfish) way.
No.23317
>>15285YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY THE FASCISTS, NOT FUCK THEM!!
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