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 No.4490[Last 50 Posts]

How to not get demoralized and tired as an Anarchist when you constantly have to deal with Marxists? I have this horrible feeling whenever I look at Neo-Nazi imageboards and online spaces and see actual useful (for them of course) and constructive discussion based on what should be done to actually further their movement. Compared to, for example, leftypol where Anarchists are constantly weighed down by Marxists seemingly obsessive desire to pull down the Socialist movement at every opportunity, to alienate it from the general public and argue about useless semantics and "dialectics" instead of anything that actually matters IRL. A movement isnt attractive if you have to constantly argue the validity of your given sect of the "movement" at all times from your supposed comrades.

"A house divided cannot do shit" or whatever Lincoln said, it is just better for us to just separate, for both parties. I would create an Anarchist-only imageboard if it werent for me being retarded when it comes to technology.

 No.4491

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first

 No.4492

>>4490
>How to not get demoralized
you should be, morals are spooks

 No.4493

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Impromptu remoralization thread?

 No.4494

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>>4493
>literally anti-communist CIA tier propaganda with an "A" slapped on it
kys

 No.4495

>>4490
They're annoying but I mostly feel nothing seeing MLs win a fake victory on meaningless internet forums while fascists dominate mainstream social media anyway

At that point it boils down to most anarchists being IRL rather than online and tankies gloating over a farcical victory in a fringe subculture

 No.4496

>>4495
i've never seen an anarchist in real life, mls on the other hand come by my house to give me blowjobs on a daily basis, hows that for making a difference?

 No.4497

Anarchists are so fucking insufferable man. I fucking hate you all.

 No.4498

What a useful and insightful discussion. I'm so glad you made this thread OP!

 No.4499

Marxism is a scientific study and analysis of materialism and class relations, you cant be mad because your ideology is a irrelevant mess and a idealistic failure that disregard materiality and contradict itself. Real anarchists would beat the crap of you also for being a sectarian prick that is willing to hit a 200 year school of thought because of feels over the bolshevik revolution.
Kys now

 No.4500

>>4499
>Real anarchists would beat the crap of you also for being a sectarian prick
Bakunin apparently wasn't a "real" Anarchist because he was a sectarian
>irrelevant
The very fact that we are having this conversation, that you already have prearranged defensive memes for this very moment, is indicative of the relevance Anarchism holds. Not even mentioning the multiple Anarchist-inspired societies and political movements that have arisen following the fall of the soviet union.

 No.4501

go kill rich ppl n stop posting here

 No.4502

>>4499
so what's the second picture from?

 No.4503

>How to not get demoralized and tired as an Anarchist when you constantly have to deal with Marxists?
You ask the wrong question. You SHOULD be demoralized and you WILL forever remain demoralized and tired, as long you fail to accept the historical and scientific truth of dialectical materialism, due to your reactionary and utopian petty-bourgeois/lumpenproletariat anarchist delusions.
>I have this horrible feeling whenever I look at Neo-Nazi imageboards and online spaces and see actual useful (for them of course) and constructive discussion based on what should be done to actually further their movement.
You have this horrible feeling because you are comparing yourself to the most reactionary and fascist elements of society. You should not envy them. You should oppose them.
>Compared to, for example, leftypol where Anarchists are constantly weighed down by Marxists seemingly obsessive desire to pull down the Socialist movement at every opportunity, to alienate it from the general public and argue about useless semantics and "dialectics" instead of anything that actually matters IRL.
You are not weighed down by Marxists, you are merely challenged by them to defend your positions and to prove your claims. The Marxists do not pull down the anarchists; in actuality, the anarchists pull down the Marxists. You compare leftypol to neo-Nazi imageboards and this is a grave error. Dialectics is not a mere word, it is a powerful tool for grasping the contradictions and the dynamics of reality. Everything that matters is dialectical, and only by applying dialectics can we comprehend and transform it.
>A movement isnt attractive if you have to constantly argue the validity of your given sect of the "movement" at all times from your supposed comrades.
A movement is not attractive if it is based only on vague and inconsistent ideas, on voluntarism and spontaneity, on individualism and anti-organization, on idealism and utopianism. These are the characteristics of anarchism, not of Marxism. Marxism is not a sect, it is a scientific and revolutionary worldview that encompasses the interests and aspirations of the vast majority of humanity.
>"A house divided cannot do shit" or whatever Lincoln said, it is just better for us to just separate, for both parties.
A house divided cannot stand, but a house that is built on sand cannot stand either. Anarchism historically, in every form, is like sand, it has no solidity or stability, it crumbles under pressure and blows away with the wind. Marxism is like rock, it has firmness and durability, it withstands the mightiest earthquakes.
> I would create an Anarchist-only imageboard if it werent for me being retarded when it comes to technology.
You would create an anarchist-only imageboard, but you would not create a real movement or a real change. You would only create a bubble of like-minded people who agree with each other and ignore the reality. You would not create a platform for debate and dialogue, but a echo chamber of reaction.

 No.4504

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>>4503
>you would not create a real movement or a real change.
How do Marxists take themselves seriously? I cant even muster the courtesy to dignify this dogmatic garbage with a response, because it would be the same as any other response to the same Marxist lines. Your interpretation of Anarchism is wrong, historically flawed, and Marxism (encompassing historical materialism) has been shown to be a failure. vidrel.

 No.4505

>>4504
>How do Marxists take themselves seriously?
Ad-hominem fallacy.
>I cant even muster the courtesy to dignify this dogmatic garbage with a response, because it would be the same as any other response to the same Marxist lines.
Appeal to emotion fallacy.
>Your interpretation of Anarchism is wrong, historically flawed, and Marxism (encompassing historical materialism) has been shown to be a failure.
Straw-man fallacy. Hasty generalization fallacy.

 No.4506

>>4504
Could you please provide the literature you use to come to the conclusion that Historical Materialism has "failed". Im very interested where you have sourced this conclusion from and what academics are attempting to prove it.

 No.4507

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 No.4508

>>4504
>Marxism (encompassing historical materialism) has been shown to be a failure.
Communist China is the vanguard of humanity.

 No.4509

>>4500
It is relevant on leftypol and first world countries, rojava isnt even fucking anarchist, leaving the zapatistas but you know that the zapatistas did praxis unlike you that is on fucking leftypol of all places.
>Marxists
First at all you again should understand what even fucking marxism is, it is not a political thought it is a scientific ideology, marxists regardless of their ideology are correct and glowies like mises failed to debunk marx, you is supposed to be mad at the bolsheviks because trotsky and lenin destroyed makhnovschina and the krondstadt color "revolution".
>Anarchism flourished after the fall of the USSR.
Wrong, anarchist political movements and LibSoc ones existed even during the cold war.
I could cite makhnovschina, anarchist catalonia, anarchist korea (until the US invasion), shangai commune, the fucking free city of christiania (althrough it is a fucking community)
So nope, marxism-leninism never hindered anarchism, it is the material conditions of society at that time.

 No.4510

>>4490
bait used to be believable

 No.4511

>90+% of anarchists
>don't bother analyzing history in any real depth and just form an idealistic understanding of fascism, like 'capitalism in decay', or 'capitalism.'
>see fascism everywhere as a result
<yo im demoralized
literal rightoid-tier self-owning

>neo-nazis imageboards having constructive discussions

hahaha I'll bite. show us.

 No.4512

>>4490
they're not real marxists if they say minority politics are compatible with class politics

 No.4513

haha

 No.4514

>>4499
>Marxism is a scientific study and analysis of materialism and class relations, you cant be mad because your ideology is a irrelevant mess and a idealistic failure that disregard materiality and contradict itself.
>marxism
>not irrelevant in le current year

 No.4515

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>>4501
this
and /leftypol/ is not part of any movement nor trying to be
>weighed down
Like what is it you are doing and being interfered with?
Maybe you are just generally confused but no way that it, it's always someone else's fault.

 No.4516

>>4493
>At least I'm trying
bls be barody :DDDDDDD

 No.4517

>>4504
>Anarchism is wrong and […] has been shown to be a failure
this tbh

 No.4518

>>4508
Your ma is the vanguard of bouncing on my dick lmao

 No.4519

>>4518
Communist China is the phoenix that is rising above the ashes

 No.4520

>>4519
Communist China is the crown jewel of humanity, a testament to the infallibility of Marxism.

 No.4521

OP, come on, we already had a shitty sectarian thread not long ago. I defended you last time, but now I might LARP as an ML just to piss you off, you deserve it for being so whiny.
>I would create an Anarchist-only imageboard if it werent for me being retarded when it comes to technology.
git gud

 No.4522

>>4520
You too, git gud and get a work visa to work in China instead of simping for it while your country is crumbling.

 No.4523

>>4522
I am already half way

 No.4524

>>4490
>How to not get demoralized and tired as an Anarchist when you constantly have to deal with Marxists?
I deal with marxists very regularly, no problems no demoralisatuon.
You're just a sliding secterian faggot who lives online like a paraplegic, except out of choice, sad. This will still get hundreds of replies from the other terminal online retards on this site.

 No.4525

>>4521
Lmao kill yourself faggot, OP is right, MLs kvetch over anarchism because MLs only look good compared to literal fascists and liberals, compared to any other leftist the reality that they're autocratic murderous scum that hold the working class as a people in contempt (MLs only really uphold an idealized image of "the working class") becomes damned self-evident

It gets even more clear once one sees past the racial essentializing MLs tend to do towards non-white people and people in the so-called Global South to realize that most vocal MLs you will encounter are actually cut from the exact cloth as online fascists; usually just privileged white dudes convinced violence will grant them the power they've decided they are entitled to

Nothing MLs tend to say is about liberation or the working class beyond rhetoric and optics

 No.4526

>>4514
Marxism is the primary reason China is as strong as it is today

 No.4527

>>4521
>git gud
Then they'd not be anarchist

 No.4528

>>4526
EXACTLY. The Communist Party of China is the vanguard of leftism.

 No.4529

>>4525
<t. op

 No.4530

>>4496
anarchists died with the first sucessfull anarchist state in 1975

 No.4531

>>4530
Looking up the year in the dictionary. Ok give me a tip

 No.4532

>>4531
Francoism is a descendent of proudhonism
Proudhon -> Proudhon Circle -> National Syndicalism -> Francoist spain

 No.4533

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>>4515
>Like what is it you are doing and being interfered with?
<How is an ideology actively propagandizing against you and attacking your ideology at every turn in an attempt to sap away support for your movement interfering with you?
My gripe with Marxists rests on the fact that they sap away support for real revolutionary movements into despotic authoritarian faggotry that will inevitably get nothing done at all.

Btw, why do people assume that my only gripe with the current Anarchist movement is non-sectarianism when I sectarianpost? Its a pressing concern, thats why I talk about it a lot, ive never claimed it to be the be-all end-all
>>4519
>Communist China is the phoenix that is rising above the ashes
Imagine telling this to like a unionized auto worker kek, you will always be a larper

 No.4534

>>4533
>won't somebody please think of the americans
>>4533
>despotic authoritarian faggotry
You got nothing
Read a book Uyghuaaa

 No.4535

>>4525
>MLs kvetch over anarchism
Marxists conduct scientific criticism of the petty-bourgeois utopia of "anarchism".
>because MLs only look good compared to literal fascists and liberals
Marxists do not "look good" compared to fascists and liberals, Marxists crush them.
>compared to any other leftist the reality that they're autocratic murderous scum that hold the working class as a people in contempt (MLs only really uphold an idealized image of "the working class") becomes damned self-evident
Marxists are the only ones who've established successful people's dictatorships. Marxists are the only ones who represent the most progressive class of history.
>It gets even more clear once one sees past the racial essentializing MLs tend to do towards non-white people and people in the
"Racial essentializing" is a misnomer that obscures the true nature of the class dynamics of capitalism.
>so-called Global South
>to realize that most vocal MLs you will encounter are actually cut from the exact cloth as online fascists; usually just privileged white dudes convinced violence will grant them the power they've decided they are entitled to
Marxism-Leninism is international in scope. You're just projecting.
>Nothing MLs tend to say is about liberation or the working class beyond rhetoric and optics
Nothing you say isn't rhetorical(ly) shit.

 No.4536

>>4533
Communist China is the phoenix that is rising above the ashes
>Imagine telling this to like a unionized auto worker kek, you will always be a larper
It's best in this case to tell them the truth. Why should we lie?

 No.4537

>>4493
>>4494
>>literally anti-communist CIA tier propaganda with an "A" slapped on it.

the only reason i don't support you guys is because of how much of a MSM libfag you are. i have never found a anarchist who have even try to be information-wise tough.

 No.4538

>>4509
>rojava isnt even fucking anarchist
can you morons develop a better reading level soon? Anarchist-INSPIRED
>it is not a political thought it is a scientific ideology
kek, please self-reflect
>makhnovschina, anarchist catalonia, anarchist korea (until the US invasion), shangai commune, the fucking free city of christiania
Makhnovists existed before the Bolshevik counter-revolution, Christiania is not a legitimate example of an Anarchist society (its more just a protest), and the rest are pre-1946. This all does not disprove my central thesis that Anarchism has experienced a period of significant decline from the end of WW2 to the collapse of global communism.

 No.4539

>>4536
If the American auto-workers cannot accept the facts, that Communist China is their ultimate goal, and that lest that they have no future, then they are bourgeois.

 No.4540

>Be anarchist
>Be mad at government
>government media says "but Marxists want a government too!"
>stop being mad at government
>start being mad at lower hanging fruit instead
>whine all day and night about Marxists, MLs, imperalised nations and AES
Can we just start banning anarchists? It's pretty obvious they have nothing to add and posting entirely to cope with their lacking abilities by just being angry with everyone, but since bourgeois states wouldn't even notice their whining, they come here instead for attention.

 No.4541

>>4535
Marxists shit out polemics that usually misconstrue other radical perspectives and are basically only compelling to people that are already Marxists or have never engaged with radical perspectives

It's noticeable that in modern Marxist polemics, actual anarchist theories or texts or essays are not actually engaged with, a vague idea called "anarchism" in a nebulous sense is. The problem with Marxist rants about anarchism is that they're so tangential to the things anarchists say or think as to not even be wrong, just irrelevant and outside the scope.

 No.4542

Death to the first world

 No.4543

>>4490
You could always check out raddle.me. It's anarchist only, no tankies allowed.

 No.4544

>>4543
>No tankies allowed
Based, so fuck off there then.

 No.4545

>>4519
Communist China is the penis rising in my pants.

>>4520
Communist China is my family jewels, ready to burst with cum.

 No.4546

>>4545
You are clueless cum isn't produced in the balls
Checkmate nay-sayer

 No.4547

My penis is rising and cumming with cum
As I watch amerikkka get fanned
So I wish a star (cum)
On every dead amerikkka

 No.4548

Imagine seeing people who call themselves Marxists and Anarchist online rap battling each other like it's a matter of life and death while you try not to freeze to death in a cinder block home. Fuck you, fuck your little baby tiff with your Internet nerd friends, you don't know shit about being demoralized.

 No.4549

>>4548
And why would I want that?
I'd rather imagine copious amounts of cum and so on

 No.4550

>>4548
that is the good part. i am not demoralized, but you are. i make little dark age edits all day, you work.

 No.4551

delete this thread please

 No.4552

>>4548
Cumming all day and night (yeah)
So the new day shining so bright (yuh)
Cumming all day and night (yeah)
So my dicks red and tight (yuh)

 No.4553

>>4552
rizz

 No.4554

>>4548
This. The anarchists I've seen doing shit IRL don't whine on imageboards, they pay attention to every opportunities for class consciousness to rise, and try to take advantage of it with direct action.
Both terminally online MLs who never left their gamer chair and post ridiculous gotchas like "Franco was a Proudhonist, therefore anarchism bad" and anarchists like OPs are pathetic.
The split of the first Internationale shouldn't have happened, both Marx and Bakunin could have pursued their different strategies in parallel, but they were too autistic to do it, and now, we have LARPers on both sides who refuse to read any book while the bourgeoisie rapes everyone of us in the ass unopposed. Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. We aren't a threat to the capitalist system, in fact we play right into the glowie playbook about how to crush any opposition to the hell world we are living in.

 No.4555

>>4554
holy shit, I got mentioned, I am the terminally online ML (I am not a ML)

 No.4556

>>4555
Who gives a shit about your special snowflake online identity, wrecker?

 No.4557

three type of people i don't want living in a commune with/ killing the petit-booj and booj with:

wikipedia-brained people who make no progress in changing or just push the other way around then call it "based" as if they are not insurable enough.

second people is the type person who complain about celebrity.

third is the type of people who i can only describr as "calling people in history as racist and antisemitic and etc".

especially that last one. im not letting them or their descendant pass on to the next stage a society or when we finally collapse the system.

 No.4558

>>4543
no one cares ziq, kill yaself

 No.4559

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>>4543
So true fam! Off to not-reddit reddit!

 No.4560

>>4554
Fair, but there is only one side that aims to basically confirm biases that left-wing governance doesn't work by shitting on previous socialist projects using the exact same language, lies and accusations that the bourgeoisie gave them.
>Take it from me, a leftist, Stalin bad!
Will do absolutely nothing other than apparently confirm to people who already believe "Far-left leadership bad" that they are correct for thinking so.

And ultimately that's why all of these ultra and anarchist posters are a detriment to any campaigning, online or off, because they are simply giving libs and right wingers what they want. The "good" leftie who is there ranting and raving about communists with the best of them, confirming everyone's bias, but when asked for what their plan is, the response is "plans are for authoritarian fascists" and thus handwaving and laughing comfortably ensues.

 No.4561

>>4559
Half of imageboard memes came from reddit and twitter at this point. You aren't as special as you think you are.

 No.4562

>>4556
Nobody fucking does, but you choose to randomly insult me because you disagreed with me, you're no better then the people you rant about

 No.4563

>>4541
> a vague idea called "anarchism" in a nebulous sense is.
When i say anarchism, I mean anarchism in all historical and theoretical forms.
>The problem with Marxist rants about anarchism is that they're so tangential to the things anarchists say or think as to not even be wrong, just irrelevant and outside the scope.
Nope. Straw man fallacy. Its all concrete. Look to every existing anarchist movement, leader, state, etc.
>>4545
The Chinese Communist Party is the harbinger of revolution.
>>4548
>Imagine seeing people who call themselves Marxists and Anarchist online rap battling each other like it's a matter of life and death while you try not to freeze to death in a cinder block home. Fuck you, fuck your little baby tiff with your Internet nerd friends, you don't know shit about being demoralized.
None of this is irrelevant. This is the life and death struggle between proletarian and bourgeois ideology.
>>4554
>The anarchists I've seen doing shit IRL don't whine on imageboards, they pay attention to every opportunities for class consciousness to rise, and try to take advantage of it with direct action.
The anarchists are most guilty of this; because, anarchists are not interested in raising class consciousness, but in spreading chaos and individualism. This fact is manifested within every anarchist failure and every anarchist pseudo-intellectual within history. Anarchists are not doing anything useful in real life. To an anarchist, direct action constitutes engaging in petty vandalism and adventurism that only alienates the masses and provokes repression.
>Both terminally online MLs who never left their gamer chair and post ridiculous gotchas like "Franco was a Proudhonist, therefore anarchism bad" and anarchists like OPs are pathetic.
Demonstrate one anarchist success, be it an individual or a movement.
>The split of the first Internationale shouldn't have happened, both Marx and Bakunin could have pursued their different strategies in parallel, but they were too autistic to do it, and now, we have LARPers on both sides who refuse to read any book while the bourgeoisie rapes everyone of us in the ass unopposed.
This is a revisionist distortion of the history of the workers’ movement. They could not have pursued their different strategies in parallel, because they would have undermined and sabotaged each other’s efforts, because the two methods of organization were fundamentally opposed, as they had two different class bases. The split of the first Internationale was inevitable.
>Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. We aren't a threat to the capitalist system, in fact we play right into the glowie playbook about how to crush any opposition to the hell world we are living in.
You should conduct self-criticism. You are most guilty of everything you speak of. You only vindicate yourself, like the uncritical bitch you are. You are oblivious

 No.4564

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>>4563
>The Chinese Communist Party is the harbinger of revolution.
This thread is just a dumpster fire of delusion.

 No.4565

>>4533
>Imagine telling this to like a unionized auto worker
the unionized auto worker would know that the chinese are now the world's number 1 producer of ev vehicles and he has probably noticed the increasing groups of chinese tourists next to japanese and burgers.
what do anarchists actually tell unionized auto workers?

 No.4566

>>4560
Oh fuck off you too.
I know someone who, if I emit the slightest criticism of the USSR and why it failed or why most people around me don't dream of RETVRNing to the long gone and gray Soviet-era, will tell me:
>You are repeating liberal propaganda, you are anti-communist
then post strawmen after strawmen to depaint me as a liberal, while the guy in question would certainly end up in a gulag for being a jobless degenerate.

You are fucking useless too. Stalin doesn't give a single shit about what we say about him, because he is fucking DEAD.
Why do fucktards like you get so hung up on this? Does daddy Stalin pay my fucking rent? Does daddy Stalin kill the landlords who ask me and my roommates to pay more than a thousand bucks to have a roof over my head, in a crumbling appartment where the water balloon is barely functioning anymore? NO HE DOESN'T BECAUSE STALIN IS FUCKING DEAD, AND HE DOESN'T GIVE A SINGLE FUCK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE SAYING ABOUT HIM BECAUSE HIS BRAIN DOESN'T FUNCTION ANYMORE.

When will you understand this? Are we traditionalist LARPers or are we communists who are striving for a better future free of capitalist exploitation? Do you have a job? Do you pay a rent? What is bothering you about the current state of society? How would saying "Stalin did nothing wrong" would help in that matter? What's the point? Again, If I say good things about Stalin, will it magically pay my fucking rent? Will Stalin give me food if I become homeless tomorrow? Why should I care in 2024 about motherfucking Stalin?

At least, Christians give me food and a roof over my head in a church if I say good things about Jesus, but you motherfuckers don't do shit and get into useless divisive arguments like this as if you were the cream of the crop of the proletariat.
Get fucking real.

>>4562
Shut the fuck up LARPer, you don't have any guillotine to kill the bourgeoisie, nobody gives a shit about your little impotent fantasies, you are a fucking useless wrecker and nothing else.

 No.4567

>>4564
Exactly what is to be expected from an ANARCHIST thread

 No.4568

threads like this is why the republicans lost the civil war

 No.4569

>>4565
Hallstatt-Chinese is a legitimate ethnicity you racist troglodyte.

 No.4570

>>4490
>pic
>Marxist: this new trendy book is confusing to me and lacks proper class analysis, can anyone relate?
<Anarchist: can I LARP???

 No.4571

>>4563
>MLs are not interested in raising class consciousness, but in murdering people and exploiting workers. This fact is manifested within every failure of ML states to not backtrack to capitalism. MLs are not doing anything useful for the proletariat. To an ML, direct action constitutes in turning the thought of a few select thinkers into a religion.
>Demonstrate one ML state who didn't revert to capitalism.
>ML is a revisionist distortion of the history of the workers’ movement. They could not have let anarchists live in peace because they were thirsty for blood.
>You should conduct self-criticism. You are most guilty of everything you speak of. You only vindicate yourself, like the uncritical bitch you are. You are oblivious
Are you happy faggot? I can be a self-important pompous ass too.

 No.4572

>>4569
not sure if shitposter or legit retard tbh

 No.4573

>>4566
Yea well Stalin did something 80 years ago or something so make him your daddy and ignore all the deaths or something

 No.4574

>>4515
>Pic
>1 life for 1 life
Camon Anarchists, do a better prapagandah
>Save 10 lives, kill a cop
There

 No.4575

>>4571
You're retarded

 No.4576

>>4567
>What is to be expected from the anarchist thread
That conceited LARPers who've never done anything in their entire worthless lives would shit it up to furiously masturbate to people that died before they were born?

 No.4577

>>4575
no u
>the thread

 No.4578

>>4576
you're projecting

 No.4579

>>4523
Based & praxis pilled

 No.4580

>>4573
Nice tagline, sure the SS would have plastered it in the occupied Soviet Union.

 No.4581

>1. The rule of dead labour

A corpse rules society – the corpse of labour. All powers around the globe formed an alliance to defend its rule: the Pope and the World Bank, Tony Blair and Jörg Haider, trade unions and entrepreneurs, German ecologists and French socialists. They don’t know but one slogan: jobs, jobs, jobs!

Whoever still has not forgotten what reflection is all about, will easily realise the implausibility of such an attitude. The society ruled by labour does not experience any temporary crisis; it encounters its absolute limit. In the wake of the micro-electronic revolution, wealth production increasingly became independent from the actual expenditure of human labour power to an extent quite recently only imaginable in science fiction. No one can seriously maintain any longer that this process can be halted or reversed. Selling the commodity labour power in the 21st century is as promising as the sale of stagecoaches has proved to be in the 20th century. However, whoever is not able to sell his or her labour power in this society is considered to be “superfluous” and will be disposed of on the social waste dump.

Those who do not work (labour) shall not eat! This cynical principle is still in effect; all the more nowadays when it becomes hopelessly obsolete. It is really an absurdity: Never before the society was that much a labour society as it is now when labour itself is made superfluous. On its deathbed labour turns out to be a totalitarian power that does not tolerate any gods besides itself. Seeping through the pores of everyday life into the psyche, labour controls both thought and action. No expense or pain is spared to artificially prolong the lifespan of the “labour idol”. The paranoid cry for jobs justifies the devastation of natural resources on an intensified scale even if the destructive effect for humanity was realised a long time ago. The very last obstacles to the full commercialisation of any social relationship may be cleared away uncritically, if only there is a chance for a few miserable jobs to be created. “Any job is better than no job” became a confession of faith, which is exacted from everybody nowadays.

The more it becomes obvious that the labour society is nearing its end, the more forcefully this realisation is being repressed in public awareness. The methods of repression may be different, but can be reduced to a common denominator. The globally evident fact that labour proves to be a self-destructive end-in-itself is stubbornly redefined into the individual or collective failure of individuals, companies, or even entire regions as if the world is under the control of a universal idée fixe. The objective structural barrier of labour has to appear as the subjective problem of those who were already ousted.

To some people unemployment is the result of exaggerated demands, low-performance or missing flexibility, to others unemployment is due to the incompetence, corruption, or greed of “their” politicians or business executives, let alone the inclination of such “leaders” to pursue policies of “treachery”. In the end all agree with Roman Herzog, the ex-president of Germany, who said that “all over the country everybody has to pull together” as if the problem was about the motivation of, let us say, a football team or a political sect. Everybody shall keep his or her nose to the grindstone even if the grindstone got pulverised. The gloomy meta-message of such incentives cannot be misunderstood: Those who fail in finding favour in the eyes of the “labour idol” have to take the blame, can be written off and pushed away.

Such a law on how and when to sacrifice humans is valid all over the world. One country after the other gets broken under the wheel of economic totalitarianism, thereby giving evidence for the one and only “truth”: The country has violated the so-called “laws of the market economy”. The logic of profitability will punish any country that does not adapt itself to the blind working of total competition unconditionally and without regard to the consequences. The great white hope of today is the business rubbish of tomorrow. The raging economical psychotics won’t get shaken in their bizarre worldview, though. Meanwhile, three quarters of the global population were more or less declared to be social litter. One capitalist centre after the other is dashed to pieces. After the breakdown of the developing countries and after the failure of the state capitalist squad of the global labour society, the East Asian model pupils of market economy have vanished into limbo. Even in Europe, social panic is spreading. However, the Don Quichotes in politics and management even more grimly continue to crusade in the name of the “labour idol”.

 No.4582

>2. The neo-liberal apartheid society

Should the successful sale of the commodity “labour power” become the exception instead of the rule, a society devoted to the irrational abstraction of labour is inevitably doomed to develop a tendency for social apartheid. All factions of the comprehensive all-parties consensus on labour, so to say the labour-camp, on the quiet accepted this logic long ago and even took over a strictly supporting role. There is no controversy on whether ever increasing sections of the population shall be pushed to the margin and shall be excluded from social participation; there is only controversy on how this social selection is to be pushed through.

The neo-liberal faction trustfully leaves this dirty social-Darwinist business to the “invisible hand” of the markets. This conception is utilised to justify the dismantling of the welfare state, ostracising those who can no longer keep abreast in the rat race of competition. Only those who belong to the smirking brotherhood of globalisation winners are awarded the quality of being a human. It goes without saying that the capitalist end-in-itself may claim any natural resources of the planet. When they can no longer be profitably mobilised, they have to lie fallow even if entire populations go hungry.

The police, salvation sects, the Mafia, and charity organisations become responsible for that annoying human litter. In the USA and most of the central European countries, more people are imprisoned than in any average military dictatorship. In Latin America, day after day an ever-larger number of street urchins and other poor are hunted down by free enterprise death-squads than dissidents were killed during the worst periods of political repression. There is only one social function left for the ostracised: to be the warning example. Their fate is meant to goad on those who still participate in the rat race of fighting for the leftovers. And even the losers have to be kept in hectic moving so that they don’t hit on the idea to of rebelling against the outrageous impositions they face.

Nevertheless, even at the price of self-annihilation, for most people the brave new world of the totalitarian market economy will only provide for a live in shadow as shadow-humans in a “shady” economy. As low-wage-slaves and democratic serfs of the “service society, they will have to fawn on the well-off winners of globalisation. The modern “working poor” may shine the shoes of the last businessmen of the dying labour society, may sell contaminated hamburgers to them, or may join the Security Corps to guard their shopping malls. Those who left behind their brain on the coat rack may dream of working their way up to the position of a service industry millionaire.

In Anglo-Saxon countries this horror scenario is reality meanwhile as it is in Third World countries and Eastern Europe; and Euroland is determined to catch up in rapid strides. The relevant financial papers make no secret of how they imagine the future of labour. The children in Third World countries who wash windscreens at polluted crossroads are depicted as the shining example of “entrepreneurial initiative” and shall serve as a role model for the jobless in the respective local “service desert”. “The role model for the future is the individual as the entrepreneur of his own labour power, being provident and solely responsible for all his own life” says the “Commission on future social questions of the free states of Bavaria and Saxony”. In addition: “There will be stronger demand for ordinary person-related services, if the services rendered become cheaper, i.e. if the “service provider” will earn lower wages”. In a society of human “self-respect”, such a statement would trigger off social revolt. However, in a world of domesticated workhorses, it will only engender a helpless nod.

 No.4583

>>4566
Okay, two issues with this impotent rant. Firstly
>why do you love Stalin!?
It's not about personalities, the fact is that the USSR (by no means perfect) did create a left-wing society that did reach a level of stability that could threaten the international bourgeoisie that had never been achieved prior. The bourgeoisie do not want this competition again, they want YOU to want a clean slate, to send everything back to square one, as much as they do and not only have you let them achieve that for you, they've got you running around saying
>oh no REEL leftists HATE Stalin and the USSR and tankies who think it was in ANY WAY successful

The second thing is this "me me me" angle you've got, the biggest failing the USSR had, it's collapse came the second it got let by people who also thought individualism was the bees knees and ought to be replicated, but if you're not "beating them" then inevitably the question comes "why are you not joining them?" so they did. If you're an individualist in the same way the liberal bourgeoisie is, then you're not fighting them and you wont beat them, you are as we speak just one free meal away from joining them.

 No.4584

3. The neo-welfare-apartheid-state

The anti-neoliberal faction of the socially all-embracing labour camp cannot bring itself to the liking of such a perspective. On the other hand, they are deeply convinced that a human being that has no job is not a human being at all. Nostalgically fixated on the postwar era of mass employment, they are bound to the idea of reviving the labour society. The state administration shall fix what the markets are incapable of. The purported normality of a labour society is to be simulated by means of job programmes, municipally organised compulsory labour for people on dole or welfare, subsidies, public debt, and other policies of this sort. This half-hearted rehash of a state-regulated labour camp has no chance at all, but remains to be the ideological point of departure for broad stratums of the population who are already on the brink of disaster. Doomed to fail, such steps put into practice are anything else but emancipatory.

The ideological transformation of “scarce labour” (tight labour market) into a prime civil right necessarily excludes all foreigners. The social logic of selection then is not questioned, but redefined: The individual struggle for survival shall be defused by means of ethnic-nationalistic criteria. “Domestic treadmills only for native citizens” is the outcry deep from the bottom of the people’s soul, who are suddenly able to combine motivated by their perverse lust for labour. Right-wing populism makes no secret of such sentiment. Its criticism of “rival society” only amounts to ethnic cleansing within the shrinking zones of capitalist wealth.

Whereas the moderate nationalism of social democrats or Greens is set on treating the old-established immigrants like natives and can even imagine naturalising those people should they be able to prove themselves harmless and affable. Thereby the intensified exclusion of refugees from the Eastern and African world can be legitimised in a populist manner even better and without getting into a fuss. Of course, the whole operation is well obscured by talking nineteen to the dozen about humanity and civilisation. Manhunts for “illegal immigrants” allegedly sneaking in domestic jobs shall not leave behind nasty bloodstains or burn marks on German soil. Rather it is the business of the border police, police forces in general, and the buffer states of “Schengenland”, which dispose of the problem lawfully and best of all far away from media coverage.

The state-run labour-simulation is violent and repressive by birth. It stands for the absolute will to maintain the rule of the “labour idol” by all means; even after its decease. This labour-bureaucratic fanaticism will not grant peace to those who resorted to the very last hideouts of a welfare state already fallen into ruins, i.e. to the ousted, jobless, or non-competitive, let alone to those refusing to labour for good reasons. Welfare workers and employment agents will haul them before the official interrogation commissions, forcing them to kow-tow before the throne of the ruling corpse.

Usually the accused is given the benefit of doubt, but here the burden of proof is shifted. Should the ostracised not want to live on air and Christian charity for their further lives, they have to accept whatsoever dirty and slave work, or any other absurd “occupational therapy” cooked up by job creation schemes, just to demonstrate their unconditional readiness for labour. Whether such job has rhyme or reason, not to mention any meaning, or is simply the realisation of pure absurdity, does not matter at all. The main point is that the jobless are kept moving to remind them incessantly of the one and only law governing their existence on earth.

In the old days people worked to earn money. Nowadays the government spares no expenses to simulate the labour-“paradise” lost for some hundred thousand people by launching bizarre “job training schemes” or setting up “training companies” in order to make them fit for “regular” jobs they will never get. Ever newer and sillier steps are taken to keep up the appearance that the idle running social treadmills can be kept in full swing to the end of time. The more absurd the social constraint of “labour” becomes, the more brutally it is hammered into the peoples’ head that they cannot even get a piece of bread for free.

In this respect “New Labour” and its imitators all over the world concur with the neo-liberal scheme of social selection. In simulating jobs and holding out beguiling prospects of a wonderful future for the labour society, a firm moral legitimacy is created to crack down on the jobless and labour objectors more fiercely. At the same time compulsory labour, subsidised wages, and so-called “honorary citizen activity” bring down labour cost, entailing a massively inflated low-wage sector and an increase in other lousy jobs of that sort.

The so-called activating workfare does even not spare persons who suffer from chronic disease or single mothers with little children. Recipients of social benefits are released from this administrative stranglehold only as soon as the nameplate is tied to their toe (i.e. in mortuary). The only reason for such state-obtrusiveness is to discourage as many people as possible from claiming benefits at all by displaying dreadful instruments of torture – any miserable job must appear comparatively pleasant.

Officially the paternalist state always only swings the whip out of love and with the intention of sternly training its children, denounced as “work-shy”, to be tough in the name of their better progress. In fact, the pedagogical measures only have the goal to drum the wards out. What else is the idea of conscripting unemployed people and forcing them to go to the fields to harvest asparagus (in Germany)? It is meant to push out the Polish seasonal workers, who accept slave wages only because the exchange rate turns the pittance they get into an acceptable income at home. Forced labourers are neither helped nor given any “vocational perspective” with this measure. Even for the asparagus growers, the disgruntled academics and reluctant skilled workers, favoured to them as a present, are nothing but a nuisance. When, after a twelve-hour day, the foolish idea of setting up a hot-dog stand as an act of desperation suddenly appears in a more friendly light, the “aid to flexibility” has its desired neo-British effect.

 No.4585

>>4566
80 years after his martyrdom and Stalin is still making liberals cope and seethe

 No.4586

>4. Exaggeration and denial of the labour religion

The new fanaticism for labour with which this society reacts to the death of its idol is the logical continuation and final stage of a long history. Since the days of the Reformation, all the powers of Western modernisation have preached the sacredness of work. Over the last 150 years, all social theories and political schools were possessed by the idea of labour. Socialists and conservatives, democrats and fascists fought each other to the death, but despite all deadly hatred, they always paid homage to the labour idol together. “Push the idler aside”, is a line from the German lyrics of the international working (labouring) class anthem; “labour makes free” it resounds eerily from the inscription above the gate in Auschwitz. The pluralist post-war democracies all the more swore by the everlasting dictatorship of labour. Even the constitution of the ultra-catholic state of Bavaria lectures its citizens in the Lutheran tradition: “Labour is the source of a people’s prosperity and is subject to the special protective custody of the state”. At the end of the 20th century, all ideological differences have vanished into thin air. What remains is the common ground of a merciless dogma: Labour is the natural destiny of human beings.

Today the reality of the labour society itself denies that dogma. The disciples of the labour religion have always preached that a human being, according to its supposed nature, is an “animal laborans” (working creature/animal). Such an “animal” actually only assumes the quality of being a human by subjecting matter to his will and in realising himself in his products, as once did Prometheus. The modern production process has always made a mockery of this myth of a world conqueror and a demigod, but might have had a real substratum in the era of inventor capitalists like Siemens or Edison and their skilled workforce. Meanwhile, however, such airs and graces became completely absurd.

Whoever asks about the content, meaning, and goal of his or her job, will go crazy or becomes a disruptive element in the social machinery designed to function as an end-in-itself. “Homo faber”, once full of conceit as to his craft and trade, a type of human who took seriously what he did in a parochial way, has become as old-fashioned as a mechanical typewriter. The treadmill has to run at all cost, and “that’s all there is to it”. Advertising departments and armies of entertainers, company psychologists, image advisors and drug dealers are responsible for creating meaning. Where there is continual babble about motivation and creativity, there is not a trace left of either of them – save self-deception. This is why talents such as autosuggestion, self-projection and competence simulation rank among the most important virtues of managers and skilled workers, media stars and accountants, teachers and parking lot guards.

The crisis of the labour society has completely ridiculed the claim that labour is an eternal necessity imposed on humanity by nature. For centuries it was preached that homage has to be paid to the labour idol just for the simple reason that needs can not be satisfied without humans sweating blood: To satisfy needs, that is the whole point of the human labour camp existence. If that were true, a critique of labour would be as rational as a critique of gravity. So how can a true “law of nature” enter into a state of crisis or even disappear? The floor leaders of the society’s labour camp factions, from neo-liberal gluttons for caviar to labour unionist beer bellies, find themselves running out of arguments to prove the pseudo-nature of labour. Or how can they explain that three-quarters of humanity are sinking in misery and poverty only because the labour system no longer needs their labour?

It is not the curse of the Old Testament “In the sweat of your face you shall eat your bread” that is to burden the ostracised any longer, but a new and inexorable condemnation: “You shall not eat because your sweat is superfluous and unmarketable”. That is supposed to be a law of nature? This condemnation is nothing but an irrational social principle, which assumes the appearance of a natural compulsion because it has destroyed or subjugated any other form of social relations over the past centuries and has declared itself to be absolute. It is the “natural law” of a society that regards itself as very “rational”, but in truth only follows the instrumental rationality of its labour idol for whose “factual inevitabilities” (Sachzwänge) it is ready to sacrifice the last remnant of its humanity.

 No.4587

>5. Labour is a coercive social principle

Labour is in no way identical with humans transforming nature (matter) and interacting with each other. As long as mankind exist, they will build houses, produce clothing, food and many other things. They will raise children, write books, discuss, cultivate gardens, and make music and much more. This is banal and self-evident. However, the raising of human activity as such, the pure “expenditure of labour power”, to an abstract principle governing social relations without regard to its content and independent of the needs and will of the participants, is not self-evident.

In ancient agrarian societies, there were all sorts of domination and personal dependencies, but not a dictatorship of the abstraction labour. Activities in the transformation of nature and in social relations were in no way self-determined, but were hardly subject to an abstract “expenditure of labour power”. Rather, they were embedded in complex rules of religious prescriptions and in social and cultural traditions with mutual obligations. Every activity had its own time and scene; simply there was no abstract general form of activity.

It fell to the modern commodity producing system as an end-in-itself with its ceaseless transformation of human energy into money to bring about a separated sphere of so-called labour “alienated” from all other social relations and abstracted from all content. It is a sphere demanding of its inmates unconditional surrender, life-to-rule, dependent robotic activity severed from any other social context, and obedience to an abstract “economic” instrumental rationality beyond human needs. In this sphere detached from life, time ceases to be lived and experienced time; rather time becomes a mere raw material to be exploited optimally: “time is money”. Any second of life is charged to a time account, every trip to the loo is an offence, and every gossip is a crime against the production goal that has made itself independent. Where labour is going on, only abstract energy may be spent. Life takes place elsewhere – or nowhere, because labour beats the time round the clock. Even children are drilled to obey Newtonian time to become “effective” members of the workforce in their future life. Leave of absence is granted merely to restore an individual’s “labour power”. When having a meal, celebrating or making love, the second hand is ticking at the back of one’s mind.

In the sphere of labour it does not matter what is being done, it is the act of doing itself that counts. Above all, labour is an end-in-itself especially in the respect that it is the raw material and substance of monetary capital yields – the limitless dynamic of capital as self-valorising value. Labour is nothing but the “liquid (motion) aggregate” of this absurd end-in-itself. That’s why all products must be produced as commodities – and not for any practical reason. Only in commodity form products can “solidify” the abstraction money, whose essence is the abstraction labour. Such is the mechanism of the alienated social treadmill holding captive modern humanity.

For this reason, it doesn’t matter what is being produced as well as what use is made of it – not to mention the indifference to social and environmental consequences. Whether houses are built or landmines are produced, whether books are printed or genetically modified tomatoes are grown, whether people fall sick as a result, whether the air gets polluted or “only” good taste goes to the dogs – all this is irrelevant as long as, whatever it takes, commodities can be transformed into money and money into fresh labour. The fact that any commodity demands a concrete use, and should it be a destructive one, has no relevance for the economic rationality for which the product is nothing but a carrier of once expended labour, or “dead labour”.

The accumulation of “dead labour”, in other words “capital”, materialising in the money form is the only “meaning” the modern commodity producing system knows about. What is “dead labour”? A metaphysical madness! Yes, but a metaphysics that has become concrete reality, a “reified” madness that holds this society in its iron grip. In perpetual buying and selling, people don’t interact as self-reliant social beings, but only execute the presupposed end-in-itself as social automatons.

 No.4588

>6. Labour and capital are the two sides of the same coin

The political left has always eagerly venerated labour. It has stylised labour to be the true nature of a human being and mystified it into the supposed counter-principle of capital. Not labour was regarded as a scandal, but its exploitation by capital. As a result, the programme of all “working class parties” was always the “liberation of labour” and not “liberation from labour”. Yet the social opposition of capital and labour is only the opposition of different (albeit unequally powerful) interests within the capitalist end-in-itself. Class struggle was the form of battling out opposite interests on the common social ground and reference system of the commodity-producing system. It was germane to the inner dynamics of capital accumulation. Whether the struggle was for higher wages, civil rights, better working conditions or more jobs, the all-embracing social treadmill with its irrational principles was always its implied presupposition.

From the standpoint of labour, the qualitative content of production counts as little as it does from the standpoint of capital. The only point of interest is selling labour power at best price. The idea of determining aim and object of human activity by joint decision is beyond the imagination of the treadmill inmates. If the hope ever existed that such self-determination of social reproduction could be realised in the forms of the commodity-producing system, the “workforce” has long forgotten about this illusion. Only “employment” or “occupation” is a matter of concern; the connotations of these terms speak volumes about the end-in-itself character of the whole arrangement and the state of mental immaturity of the participants comes to light.

What is being produced and to what end, and what might be the consequences neither matters to the seller of the commodity labour power nor to its buyer. The workers of nuclear power plants and chemical factories protest the loudest when their ticking time bombs are deactivated. The “employees” of Volkswagen, Ford or Toyota are the most fanatical disciples of the automobile suicide programme, not merely because they are compelled to sell themselves for a living wage, but because they actually identify with their parochial existence. Sociologists, unionists, pastors and other “professional theologians” of the “social question” regard this as a proof for the ethical-moral value of labour. “Labour shapes personality”, they say. Yes, the personalities of zombies of the commodity production who can no longer imagine a life outside of their dearly loved treadmills, for which they drill themselves hard – day in, day out.

As the working class was hardly ever the antagonistic contradiction to capital or the historical subject of human emancipation, capitalists and managers hardly control society by means of the malevolence of some “subjective will of exploitation”. No ruling caste in history has led such a wretched life as a “bondman” as the harassed managers of Microsoft, Daimler-Chrysler or Sony. Any medieval baron would have deeply despised these people. While he was devoted to leisure and squandered wealth orgiastically, the elite of the labour society does not allow itself any pause. Outside the treadmills, they don’t know anything else but to become childish. Leisure, delight in cognition, realisation and discovery, as well as sensual pleasures, are as foreign to them as to their human “resource”. They are only the slaves of the labour idol, mere functional executives of the irrational social end-in-itself.

The ruling idol knows how to enforce its “subjectless” (Marx) will by means of the “silent (implied) compulsion” of competition to which even the powerful must bow, especially if they manage hundreds of factories and shift billions across the globe. If they don’t “do business”, they will be scrapped as ruthlessly as the superfluous “labour force”. Kept in the leading strings of intransigent systemic constraints they become a public menace by this and not because of some conscious will to exploit others. Least of all, are they allowed to ask about the meaning and consequences of their restless action and can not afford emotions or compassion. Therefore they call it realism when they devastate the world, disfigure urban features, and only shrug their shoulders when their fellow beings are impoverished in the midst of affluence.

 No.4589

>7. Labour is patriarchal rule

It is not possible to subject every sphere of social life or all essential human activities to the rule of abstract (Newtonian) time, even if the intrinsic logic of labour, inclusive of the transformation of the latter into “money-substance”, insists on it. Consequently, alongside the “separated” sphere of labour, so to say at the rear, the sphere of home life, family life, and intimacy came into being.

It is a sphere that conveys the idea of femininity and comprises the various activities of everyday life which can only rarely be transformed into monetary remuneration: from cleaning, cooking, child rearing, and the care for the elderly, to the “labour of love” provided by the ideal housewife, who busies herself with “loving” care for her exhausted breadwinner and refuels his emptiness with well measured doses of emotion. That is why the sphere of intimacy, which is nothing but the reverse side of the labour sphere, is idealised as the sanctuary of true life by bourgeois ideology, even if in reality it is most often a familiarity hell. In fact, it is not a sphere of better or true life, but a parochial and reduced form of existence, a mere mirror-inversion subject to the very same systemic constraints (i.e. labour). The sphere of intimacy is an offshoot of the labour sphere, cut off and in its own meanwhile, but bound to the overriding common reference system. Without the social sphere of “female labour”, the labour society would actually never have worked. The “female sphere” is the implied precondition of the labour society and at the same time its specific result.

The same applies to the gender stereotypes being generalised in the course of the developing commodity-producing system. It was no accident that the image of the somewhat primitive, instinct-driven, irrational, and emotional woman solidified only along with the image of the civilised, rational and self-restrained male workaholic and became a mass prejudice finally. It was also no accident that the self-drill of the white man, who went into some sort of mental boot camp training to cope with the exacting demands of labour and its pertinent human resource management, coincided with a brutal witch-hunt that raged for some centuries.

The modern understanding and appropriation of the world by means of (natural) scientific thought, a way of thinking that was gaining ground then, was contaminated by the social end-in-itself and its gender attributes down to the roots. This way, the white man, in order to ensure his smooth functioning, subjected himself to a self-exorcism of all evil spirits, namely those frames of mind and emotional needs, which are considered to be dysfunctional in the realms of labour.

In the 20th century, especially in the post-war democracies of Fordism, women were increasingly recruited to the labour system, which only resulted in some specific female schizophrenic mind. On the one hand, the advance of women into the sphere of labour has not led to their liberation, but subjected them to very same drill procedures for the labour idol as already suffered by men. On the other hand, as the systemic structure of “segregation” was left untouched, the separated sphere of “female labour” continued to exist extrinsic to what is officially deemed to be “labour”. This way, women were subjected to a double-burden and exposed to conflicting social imperatives. Within the sphere of labour – until now – they are predominantly confined to the low-wage sector and subordinate jobs.

No system-conforming struggle for quota regulations or equal career chances will change anything. The miserable bourgeois vision of a “compatibility of career and family” leaves completely untouched the separation of the spheres of the commodity-producing system and thereby preserves the structure of gender segregation. For the majority of women such an outlook on life is unbearable, a minority of fat cats, however, may utilise the social conditions to attain a winner position within the social apartheid system by delegating housework and child care to poorly paid (and “obviously” feminine) domestic servants.

Due to the systemic constraints of the labour society and its total usurpation of the individual in particular – entailing his or her unconditional surrender to the systemic logic, and mobility and obedience to the capitalist time regime – in society as a whole, the sacred bourgeois sphere of so-called private life and “holy family” is eroded and degraded more and more. The patriarchy is not abolished, but runs wild in the unacknowledged crisis of the labour society. As the commodity-producing system gradually collapses at present, women are made responsible for survival in any respect, while the “masculine” world indulges in the prolongation of the categories of the labour society by means of simulation.

 No.4590

It's almost as if Liberals genuinely believe the USSR was a state led by a single leader and not my a… soviet.

 No.4591

>8. Labour is the service of humans in bondage

The identity of labour and bondman existence can be shown factually and conceptually. Only a few centuries ago, people were quite aware of the connection between labour and social constraints. In most European languages, the term “labour” originally referred only to the activities carried out by humans in bondage, i.e. bondmen, serfs, and slaves. In Germanic speaking areas, the word described the drudgery of an orphaned child fallen into serfdom. The Latin verb “laborare” meant “staggering under a heavy burden” and conveyed the suffering and toil of slaves. The Romance words “travail”, “trabajo”, etc., derive from the Latin “tripalium”, a kind of yoke used for the torture and punishment of slaves and other humans in bondage. A hint of that suffering is still discernible in the German idiom “to bend under the yoke of labour”.

Thus “labour”, according to its root, is not a synonym for self-determined human activity, but refers to an unfortunate social fate. It is the activity of those who have lost their freedom. The imposition of labour on all members of society is nothing but the generalisation of a life in bondage; and the modern worship of labour is merely the quasi-religious transfiguration of the actual social conditions.

For the individuals, however, it was possible to repress the conjunction between labour and bondage successfully and to internalise the social impositions because in the developing commodity-producing system, the generalisation of labour was accompanied by its reification: Most people are no longer under the thumb of a personal master. Human interdependence transformed into a social totality of abstract domination – discernible everywhere, but proving elusive. Where everyone has become a slave, everyone is simultaneously a master, that is to say a slaver of his own person and his very own slave driver and warder. All obey the opaque system idol, the “Big Brother” of capital valorisation, who harnessed them to the “tripalium”.

 No.4592

>9. The bloody history of labour

The history of the modern age is the history of the enforcement of labour, which brought devastation and horror to the planet in its trail. The imposition to waste the most of one’s lifetime under abstract systemic orders was not always as internalised as today. Rather, it took several centuries of brute force and violence on a large scale to literally torture people into the unconditional service of the labour idol.

It did not start with some “innocent” market expansion meant to increase “the wealth” of his or her majesty’s subjects, but with the insatiable hunger for money of the absolutist apparatus of state to finance the early modern military machinery. The development of urban merchant’s and financial capital beyond traditional trade relations only accelerated through this apparatus, which brought the whole society in a bureaucratic stranglehold for the first time in history. Only this way did money became a central social motive and the abstraction of labour a central social constraint without regard to actual needs.

Most people didn’t voluntarily go over to production for anonymous markets and thereby to a general cash economy, but were forced to do so because the absolutist hunger for money led to the levy of pecuniary and ever-increasing taxes, replacing traditional payment in kind. It was not that people had to “earn money” for themselves, but for the militarised early modern firearm-state, its logistics, and its bureaucracy. This way the absurd end-in-itself of capital valorisation and thus of labour came into the world.

Only after a short time revenue became insufficient. The absolutist bureaucrats and finance capital administrators began to forcibly and directly organise people as the material of a “social machinery” for the transformation of labour into money. The traditional way of life and existence of the population was vandalised as this population was earmarked to be the human material for the valorisation machine put on steam. Peasants and yeomen were driven from their fields by force of arms to clear space for sheep farming, which produced the raw material for the wool manufactories. Traditional rights like free hunting, fishing, and wood gathering in the forests were abolished. When the impoverished masses then marched through the land begging and stealing, they were locked up in workhouses and manufactories and abused with labour torture machines to beat the slave consciousness of a submissive serf into them. The floating rumour that people gave up their traditional life of their own accord to join the armies of labour on account of the beguiling prospects of labour society is a downright lie.

The gradual transformation of their subjects into material for the money-generating labour idol was not enough to satisfy the absolutist monster states. They extended their claim to other continents. Europe’s inner colonisation was accompanied by outer colonisation, first in the Americas, then in parts of Africa. Here the whip masters of labour finally cast aside all scruples. In an unprecedented crusade of looting, destruction and genocide, they assaulted the newly “discovered” worlds – the victims overseas were not even considered to be human beings. However, the cannibalistic European powers of the dawning labour society defined the subjugated foreign cultures as “savages” and cannibals.

This provided the justification to exterminate or enslave millions of them. Slavery in the colonial plantations and raw materials “industry” – to an extent exceeding ancient slaveholding by far, was one of the founding crimes of the commodity-producing system. Here “extermination by means of labour” was realised on a large scale for the first time. This was the second foundation crime of the labour society. The white man, already branded by the ravages of self-discipline, could compensate for his repressed self-hatred and inferiority complex by taking it out on the “savages”. Like “the woman”, indigenous people were deemed to be primitive halflings ranking in between animals and humans. It was Immanuel Kant’s keen conjecture that baboons could talk if they only wanted and didn’t speak because they feared being dragged off to labour.

Such grotesque reasoning casts a revealing light on the Enlightenment. The repressive labour ethos of the modern age, which in its original Protestant version relied on God’s grace and since the Enlightenment on “Natural Law”, was disguised as a “civilising mission”. Civilisation in this sense means the voluntary submission to labour; and labour is male, white and “Western”. The opposite, the non-human, amorphous, and uncivilised nature, is female, coloured and “exotic”, and thus to be kept in bondage. In a word, the “universality” of the labour society is perfectly racist by its origin. The universal abstraction of labour can always only define itself by demarcating itself from everything that can’t be squared with its own categories.

The modern bourgeoisie, who ultimately inherited absolutism, is not a descendant of the peaceful merchants who once travelled the old trading routes. Rather it was the bunch of Condottieri, early modern mercenary gangs, poorhouse overseers, penitentiary wards, the whole lot of farmers general, slave drivers and other cut-throats of this sort, who prepared the social hotbed for modern “entrepeneurship”. The bourgeois revolutions of the 18th and 19th century had nothing to do with social emancipation. They only restructured the balance of power within the arising coercive system, separated the institutions of the labour society from the antiquated dynastic interests and pressed ahead with reification and depersonalization. It was the glorious French revolution that histrionically proclaimed compulsory labour, enacted a law on the “elimination of begging” and arranged for new labour penitentiaries without delay.

This was the exact opposite of what was struggled for by rebellious social movements of a different character flaring up on the fringes of the bourgeois revolutions. Completely autonomous forms of resistance and disobedience existed long before, but the official historiography of the modern labour society cannot make sense of it. The producers of the old agrarian societies, who never put up with feudal rule completely, were simply not willing to come to terms with the prospect of forming the working class of a system extrinsic to their life. An uninterrupted chain of events, from the peasants’ revolts of the 15th and 16th century, the Luddite uprisings in Britain, later on denounced as the revolt of backwards fools, to the Silesian weavers’ rebellion in 1844, gives evidence for the embittered resistance against labour. Over the last centuries, the enforcement of the labour society and the sometimes open and sometimes latent civil war were one and the same.

The old agrarian societies were anything but heaven on earth. However, the majority experienced the enormous constraints of the dawning labour society as a change to the worse and a “time of despair”. Despite of the narrowness of their existence, people actually had something to lose. What appears to be the darkness and plague of the misrepresented Middle Ages to the erroneous awareness of the modern times is in reality the horror of the history of modern age. The working hours of a modern white-collar or factory “employee” are longer than the annual or daily time spent on social reproduction by any pre-capitalist or non-capitalist civilisation inside or outside Europe. Such traditional production was not devoted to efficiency, but was characterised by a culture of leisure and relative “slowness”. Apart from natural disasters, those societies were able to provide for the basic material needs of their members, in fact even better than it has been the case for long periods of modern history or is the case in the horror slums of the present world crisis. Furthermore, domination couldn’t get that deep under the skin as in our thoroughly bureaucratised labour society.

This is why resistance against labour could only be smashed by military force. Even now, the ideologists of the labour society resort to cant to cover up that the civilisation of the pre-modern producers did not peacefully “evolve” into a capitalist society, but was drowned in its own blood. The mellow labour democrats of today preferably shift the blame for all these atrocities onto the so-called “pre-democratic conditions” of a past they have nothing to do with. They do not want to see that the terrorist history of the modern age is quite revealing as to nature of the contemporary labour society. The bureaucratic labour administration and state-run registration-mania and control freakery in industrial democracies has never been able to deny its absolutist and colonial origins. By means of ongoing reification to create an impersonal systemic context, the repressive human resource management, carried out in the name of the labour idol, has even intensified and meanwhile pervades all spheres of life. Due to today’s agony of labour, the iron bureaucratic grip can be felt as it was felt in the early days of the labour society. Labour administration turns out to be a coercive system that has always organised social apartheid and seeks in vain to banish the crisis by means of democratic state slavery. At the same time, the evil colonial spirit returns to the countries at the periphery of capitalist “wealth”, “national economies” that are already ruined by the dozen. This time, the International Monetary Fund assumes the position of an “official receiver” to bleed white the leftovers. After the decease of its idol, the labour society, still hoping for deliverance, falls back on the methods of its founding crimes, even though it is already beyond salvation.

 No.4593

>10. The working class movement was a movement for labour

The historical working class movement, which did not rise until long after the fall of the old social revolts, did not longer struggle against the impositions of labour but developed an over-identification with the seemingly inevitable. The movement’s focus was on workers’ “rights” and the amelioration of living conditions within the reference system of the labour society whose social constraints were largely internalised. Instead of radically criticising the transformation of human energy into money as an irrational end-in-itself, the workers’ movement took the “standpoint of labour” and understood capital valorisation as a neutral given fact.

Thus the workers’ movement stepped into the shoes of absolutism, Protestantism and bourgeois Enlightenment. The misfortune of labour was converted into the false pride of labour, redefining the domestication the fully-fledged working class had went through for the purposes of the modern idol into a “human right”. The domesticated helots so to speak ideologically turned the tables and developed a missionary fervour to demand both the “right to work” and a general “obligation to work”. They didn’t fight the bourgeois in their capacity as the executives of the labour society but abused them, just the other way around, in the name of labour, by calling them parasites. Without exception, all members of the society should be forcibly recruited to the “armies of labour”.

The workers’ movement itself became the pacemaker of the capitalist labour society, enforcing the last stages of reification within the labour system’s development process and prevailing against the narrow-minded bourgeois officials of the 19th and early 20th century. It was a process quite similar to what had happened only 100 years before when the bourgeoisie stepped into the shoes of absolutism. This was only possible because the workers’ parties and trade unions, due to their deification of labour, relied on the state machinery and its institutions of repressive labour management in an affirmative way. That’s why it never occurred to them to abolish the state-run administration of human material and simultaneously the state itself. Instead of that, they were eager to seize the systemic power by means of what they called “the march through the institutions” (in Germany). Thereby, like the bourgeoisie had done earlier, the workers’ movement adopted the bureaucratic tradition of labour management and storekeeping of human resources, once conjured up by absolutism.

However, the ideology of a social generalisation of labour required a reconstruction of the political sphere. The system of estates with its differentiation as to political “rights” (e.g. class system of franchise), being in force when the labour system was just halfway carried through, had to be replaced by the general democratic equality of the finalised “labour state”. Furthermore, any unevenness in the running of the valorisation machine, especially when felt as a harmful impact by society as whole, had to be balanced by welfare state intervention. In this respect, too, it was the workers’ movement who brought forth the paradigm. Under the name “social democracy” it became theever largest “bourgeois action group” in history, but got trapped in its own snare though. In a democracy anything may be subject to negotiation except for the intrinsic constraints of the labour society, which constitute the axiomatic preconditions implied. What can be on debate is confined to the modalities and the handling of those constraints. There is always only a choice between Coca-Cola and Pepsi, between pestilence and cholera, between impudence and dullness, between Kohl and Schröder.

The “democracy” inherent in the labour society is the ever most perfidious system of domination in history – a system of self-oppression. That’s why such a democracy never organises its members free decision on how the available resources shall be utilised, but is only concerned with the constitution of the legal fabric forming the reference system for the socially segregated labour monads compelled to market themselves under the law of competition. Democracy is the exact opposite of freedom. As a consequence, the “labouring humans” are necessarily divided into administrators and subjects of administration, employers and employees (in the true sense of the word), functional elite and human material. The inner structures of political parties, applying to labour parties in particular, are a true image of the prevailing social dynamic. Leaders and followers, celebrities and celebrators, nepotism-networks and opportunists: Those interrelated terms are producing evidence of the essence of a social structure that has nothing to do with free debate and free decision. It is a constituent part of the logic of the system that the elite itself is just a dependent functional element of the labour idol and its blind resolutions.

Ever since the Nazis seized power, any political party is a labour party and a capitalist party at the same time. In the “developing societies” of the East and South, the labour parties mutated into parties of state terrorism to enable catch-up modernisation; in Western countries they became part of a system of “peoples’ parties” with exchangeable party manifestos and media representatives. Class struggle is all over because labour society’s time is up. As the labour society is passing away, “classes” turn out to be mere functional categories of a common social fetish system. Whenever social democrats, Greens, and post-communists distinguish themselves by outlining exceptionally perfidious repression schemes, they prove to be nothing but the legitimate heirs of the workers’ movement, which never wanted anything else but labour at all cost.

 No.4594

>11. The crisis of labour

For a short historical moment after the Second World War, it seemed that the labour society, based on Fordistic industries, had consolidated into a system of “eternal prosperity” pacifying the unbearable end-in-itself by means of mass consumption and welfare state amenities. Apart from the fact that this idea was always an idea of democratic helots – meant to become reality only for a small minority of world population, it has turned out to be foolish even in the capitalist centres. With the third industrial revolution of microelectronics, the labour society reached its absolute historical barrier.

That this barrier would be reached sooner or later was logically foreseeable. From birth, the commodity-producing system suffers from a fatal contradiction in terms. On the one hand, it lives on the massive intake of human energy generated by the expenditure of pure labour power – the more the better. On the other hand, the law of operational competition enforces a permanent increase in productivity bringing about the replacement of human labour power by scientific operational industrial capital.

This contradiction in terms was in fact the underlying cause for all of the earlier crises, among them the disastrous world economic crisis of 1929-33. Due to a mechanism of compensation, it was possible to get over those crises time and again. After a certain incubation period, then based on the higher level of productivity attained, the expansion of the market to fresh groups of buyers led to an intake of more labour power in absolute numbers than was previously rationalised away. Less labour power had to be spent per product, but more goods were produced absolutely to such an extent that this reduction was overcompensated. As long as product innovations exceeded process innovations, it was possible to transform the self-contradiction of the system into an expansion process.

The striking historical example is the automobile. Due to the assembly line and other techniques of “Taylorism” (“work-study expertise”), first introduced in Henry Ford’s auto factory in Detroit, the necessary labour time per auto was reduced to a fraction. Simultaneously, the working process was enormously condensed, so that the human material was drained many times over the previous level in ratio to the same labour time interval. Above all, the car, up to then a luxury article for the upper ten thousand, could be made available to mass consumption due to the lower price.

This way the insatiable appetite of the labour idol for human energy was satisfied on a higher level despite rationalised assembly line production in the times of the second industrial revolution of “Fordism”. At the same time, the auto is a case in point for the destructive character of the highly developed mode of production and consumption in the labour society. In the interest of the mass production of cars and private car use on a huge scale, the landscape is being buried under concrete and the environment is being polluted. And people have resigned to the undeclared 3rd world war raging on the roads and routes of this world – a war claiming millions of casualties, wounded and maimed year in, year out – by just shrugging it off.

The mechanism of compensation becomes defunct in the course of the 3rd industrial revolution of microelectronics. It is true that through microelectronics many products were reduced in price and new products were created (above all in the area of the media). However, for the first time, the speed of process innovation is greater than the speed of product innovation. More labour is rationalised away than can be reabsorbed by expansion of markets. As a logical consequence of rationalisation, electronic robotics replaces human energy or new communication technology makes labour superfluous, respectively. Entire sectors and departments of construction, production, marketing, warehousing, distribution, and management vanish into thin air. For the first time, the labour idol unintentionally confines itself to permanent hunger rations, thereby bringing about its very own death.

As the democratic labour society is a mature end-in-itself system of self-referential labour power expenditure, working like a feedback circuit, it is impossible to switch over to a general reduction in working hours within its forms. On the one hand, economic administrative rationality requires that an ever-increasing number of people become permanently “jobless” and cut off from the reproduction of their life as inherent in the system. On the other hand, the constantly decreasing number of “employees” is suffering from overworking and is subject to an even more intense efficiency pressure. In the midst of wealth, poverty and hunger are coming home to the capitalist centres. Production plants are shut down, and large parts of arable land lie fallow. A great number of homes and public buildings are vacant, whereas the number of homeless persons is on the increase. Capitalism becomes a global minority event.

In its distress, the dying labour idol has become auto-cannibalistic. In search of remaining labour “food”, capital breaks up the boundaries of national economy and globalises by means of nomadic cut-throat competition. Entire regions of the world are cut off from the global flows of capital and commodities. In an unprecedented wave of mergers and “hostile takeovers”, global players get ready for the final battle of private entrepeneurship. The disorganised states and nations implode, their populations, driven mad by the struggle for survival, attack each other in ethnic gang wars.

 No.4595

>12. The end of politics

Necessarily the crisis of labour entails the crisis of state and politics. In principle, the modern state owes its career to the fact that the commodity producing system is in need of an overarching authority guaranteeing the general preconditions of competition, the general legal foundations, and the preconditions for the valorisation process – inclusive of a repression apparatus in case human material defaults the systemic imperatives and becomes insubordinate. Organising the masses in the form of bourgeois democracy, the state had to increasingly take on socio-economic functions in the 20th century. Its function is not limited to the provision of social services but comprises public health, transportation, communication and postal service, as well as infrastructures of all kind. The latter state-run or state-supervised services are essential for the working of the labour society, but cannot be organised as a private enterprise valorisation process; “privatised” public services are most often nothing but state consumption in disguise. The reason for that is that such infrastructure must be available for the society as a whole on a permanent basis and cannot follow the market cycles of supply and demand.

As the state is not a valorisation unit in its own and thus not able to transform labour into money, it has to skim off money from the actual valorisation process to finance its state functions. If the valorisation of value comes to a standstill, the coffers of state empty. The state, purported to be the social sovereign, proves to be completely dependent on the blindly raging, fetishised economy specific to the labour society. The state may pass as many bills as it wants, if the forces of production (the general powers of humanity) outgrow the system of labour, positive law, constituted and applicable only in relation to the subjects of labour, leads nowhere.

As a result of the ever-increasing mass unemployment, revenues from the taxation of earned income drain away. The social security net rips as soon as the number of “superfluous” people constitutes a critical mass that has to be fed by the redistribution of monetary yields generated elsewhere in the capitalist system. However, with the rapid concentration process of capital in crisis, exceeding the boundaries of national economies, state revenues from the taxation of corporate profits drain away as well. The compulsions thereby exerted by transnational corporations on national economies, who are competing for foreign investment, result in tax dumping, dismantling of the welfare state, and the downgrading of environment protection standards. That is why the democratic state mutates into a mere crisis administrator.

The more the state approaches financial emergency, the more it is reduced to its repressive core. Infrastructures are cut down to proportions just meeting the requirements of transnational capital. As it was once the case in the colonies, social logistics are increasingly restricted to a few economic centres while the rest of the territory becomes wasteland. Whatever can be privatised is privatised, even if more and more people are excluded from the most essential supplies.

When the valorisation of value concentrates on only a few world market havens, a comprehensive supply system to satisfy the needs of the population as a whole does not matter any longer. Whether there is train service or postal service available is only relevant in respect to trade, industry, and financial markets. Education becomes the privilege of the globalisation winners. Intellectual, artistic, and theoretical culture is weighed against the criterion of marketability and fades away. A widening financing gap ruins public health service, giving rise to a class system of medical care. Surreptitiously and gradually at the beginning, eventually with callous candour, the law of social euthanasia is promulgated: Because you are poor and superfluous, you will have to die early.

In the fields of medicine, education, culture, and general infrastructure, knowledge, skill, techniques and methods along with the necessary equipment are available in abundance. However, pursuant to the “subject to sufficient funds”-clause – the latter objectifying the irrational law of the labour society – any of those capacities and capabilities has to be kept under lock and key, or has to be demobilised and scrapped. The same applies to the means of production in farming and industry as soon as they turn out to be “unprofitable”. Apart from the repressive labour simulation imposed on people by means of forced labour and low-wage regime along with the cutback of social security payments, the democratic state that already transformed into an apartheid system has nothing on offer for his ex-labour subjects. At a more advanced stage, the administration as such will disintegrate. The state apparatus will degenerate into a corrupt “kleptocracy”, the armed forces into Mafia-structured war gangs, and police forces into highwaymen.

No policy conceivable can stop this process or even reverse it. By its essence politics is related to social organisation in the form of state. When the foundations of the state-edifice crumble, politics and policies become baseless. Day after day, the left-wing democratic formula of the “political shaping” (politische Gestaltung) of living conditions makes a fool of itself more and more. Apart from endless repression, the gradual elimination of civilisation, and support for the “terror of economy”, there is nothing left to “shape”. As the social end-in-itself specific to the labour society is an axiomatic presupposition of Western democracy, there is no basis for political-democratic regulation when labour is in crisis. The end of labour is the end of politics.

 No.4596

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ANARCHISTS BTFO

 No.4597

Think this through logically:

if we take marxism and anarchism, which of these ideologies tends to have more of an impact on political history, measured by the amount of societies governed or militant struggles waged under that ideology (or at least with that ideology as a guiding principle)? Which one of these, marxism or anarchism, facilitates huge political and historical progress like this?

Which of these ideologies has been chosen by many semi-successful organisations, which, in the imperial-core, I consider to be organisations with hundreds or even thousands of members that periodically host activities and systematically take part in the political struggle, sometimes on electoral level, sometimes on extra-parliamentary level? Not to speak of militant-organisations outside of the imperial core which currently fight the bourgeoisie and feudal overlords "for realsies"? (India, Philippines, etc.)

Which one of these ideologies is better suited to help people coordinate the liberation of the working-class on a grand scale, something that arguably requires a lot of patience, discipline (even if internal voting results are not specifically in your faction's favour) and careful analysis?

If you answer "anarchism", then I would like to ask: how are all these things listed above possible with a political ethos that primarily focuses on protecting the subject/the individual from collective coercion and "the tyranny of structure", going as far as to only accept consensus-decision-making in order not to make any individual feel repressed or left out? How does one work with somebody who believes that the complete and unbridled liberty of the individual goes first? How do we motivate tens, hundreds, thousands, millions of people to seize political power and protect these achievements afterwards for ages to come, if the entire thing falls and stands with consensus-votes or how a tiny minority of the project feels? How to cooperate with somebody who sees the disciplined and sometimes tiresome struggle, in which everyone involved has to give something up and make some form of sacrifice, as an oppression that is unethical and authoritarian, even if this is realistically speaking the only way to help a mass-movement with thousands of people realise a certain political goal and not deviate from it, no matter the difficulties?

If you read the questions I initially wrote about and answer "marxism", then I say: I get you. Not because I am somehow a ontologically a hooligan of marxism and like to mock anarchists because they stink, but because history taught me (and millions of others) that certain organisational principles and sacrifices must be made in order to change the geopolitical game. Stability, discipline and adherence to democratically determined goals are necessary to coordinate the masses to realise the revolution. After all, tiny slip-ups can mean gigantic consequences. Look at the Haymarket Affair: a succesful campaign with mass-support was squashed within a day because some bozos threw a fucking bomb. If we do not strictly react to this kind of adventurism just because a group of people feel that their moral impulses and rage matter more than the collective's project, how can we expect to even run a lemonade-stand?
The struggle for revolution is messy and it comes with an unbearable price. Sometimes, principles must be broken and morals neglected. Rules must be set up and enforced, even if it feels paranoid for the moment. Any good marxist is extremely aware of this and must do their utmost best to incorporate these experiences into future praxis, either in order to prevent such missteps entirely or be able to manage them more adequately if they reappear.

With all due respect, these are organisational strengths, virtues and manners of self-reflection, rooted in material analysis, that I just do not see in any form of anarchism. I do respect anarchist organisations' instances of direct action, though. I do not think a soup-kitchen is something inherently bad, for instance. I just believe that the political and ideological gain that such a soup-kitchen creates must somehow flow back into a central organisation, maybe such a soup-kitchen must be institutionalised by the party on a big scale. Feed the poor, help them get in contact with well-read comrades and help them understand that the mere fact, that they have to go to a soup-kitchen, is a result of neoliberal capitalist politics which can be destroyed by a well-functioning, well-organised marxist party.

 No.4598

>13. The casino-capitalist simulation of labour society

The predominant social awareness deceives itself systematically about the actual state of the labour society: Collapsing regions are excommunicated ideologically, labour market statistics are distorted unscrupulously, and forms of impoverishment are simulated away by the media. Simulation is the central feature of crisis capitalism anyway. This is also true for the economy itself.

If – at least in the countries at the heart of the Western world – it seems that capital accumulation is possible without labour employed and that money as a pure form is able to guarantee the further valorisation of value out of itself, such appearance is owing to the simulation process going on at financial markets. As a mirror image of labour simulation by means of coercive measures imposed by the labour administration authorities, a simulation of capital valorisation developed from the speculative uncoupling of the credit system and equity market from the actual economy.

Present-time labour employed is replaced by the tapping of future-time labour that will never be employed in reality – capital accumulation taking place in some fictitious future II so to speak. Monetary capital that no longer can profitably be reinvested in active assets, and is therefore unable to consume labour, has increasingly to resort to financial markets.

Even the Fordistic boom of capital valorisation in the heydays of the so-called “economic miracle” after World War II was not entirely self-sustaining. As it was impossible to finance the basic preconditions of labour society otherwise, the state turned to deficit spending to an unprecedented extent. The credit volume raised exceeded revenue from taxation by far. This means that the state pledged its future actual revenue as a collateral security. On the one hand, this way an investment opportunity for “superfluous” moneyed capital was created; it was lent to the state on interest. The state settled interest payment by raising fresh credit, thereby funnelling back the borrowed money into economic circulation.

On the other hand, this implies that social security expenditure and public spending on infrastructure was financed by way of credit. Hence, in terms of capitalist logic, an “artificial” demand was created which was not covered by productive labour power expenditure. By tapping its own future, the labour society prolonged the lifetime of the Fordistic boom beyond its actual span.

This simulative element, being in operation even in times of a seemingly intact valorisation process, came up against limiting factors in line with the amount of indebtedness of the state. “Public debt crisis” in the capitalist centres as well as in Third World countries put an end to the stimulation of economic growth by means of deficit spending and laid the foundation for the triumphant advance of neo-liberal deregulation policies. According to the liberal ideology, deregulation can only be effected in line with a sweeping reduction of the public-sector share in national product In reality costs and expenses arising from crisis management, whether it is government spending on the repression apparatus or national expenditure for the maintenance of the simulation machinery, do compensate cost saving from deregulation and the reduction of state functions. In many states, the public-sector share even expanded as a result.

However, it was not possible to simulate the further accumulation of capital by means of deficit spending any longer. Consequently, in the eighties of last century, the additional creation of fictitious capital shifted to the equity market. No longer dividend, the share in real profit, is a matter of concern; rather it is stock price gains, the speculative increase in value of the legal title up to an astronomical magnitude, which counts. The ratio of real economy to speculative price movements turned upside down. The speculative price advance no longer anticipates real economic expansion but conversely, the bull market of fictitious net profit generation simulates a real accumulation that no longer exists.

Clinically dead, the labour idol is kept breathing artificially by means of a seemingly self-induced expansion of financial markets. Industrial corporations show profits that don’t come from operating income, i.e. the production and sale of goods – a loss-making branch of business for a long time – but from the “clever” speculation of their financial departments in stocks and currency. The revenue items shown in the budgets of public authorities are not yielded by taxation or public borrowing, but by the keen participation of fiscal administrations in the financial gambling markets. Families and one-person households whose real income from wages or salaries is dropping dramatically, keep to their spending spree habit by using stocks and prospective price gains as a collateral for consumer credits. Once again, a new form of artificial demand is created resulting in production and revenue “built upon sandy ground”.

The speculative process is a dilatory tactic to defer the global economic crisis. As the fictitious increase in the value of legal titles is only the anticipation of future labour employed (to an astronomical magnitude) that will never be employed, the lid will be taken off the objectified swindle after a certain time of incubation. The breakdown of the “emerging markets” in Asia, Latin America, and Eastern Europe was just a first foretaste. It is only a question of time until the financial markets of the capitalist centres in the US, the EU (European Union) and Japan will collapse.

These interrelations are completely distorted by the fetish-awareness of the labour society, inclusive of traditional left-wing and right-wing “critics of capitalism”. Fixated on the labour phantom, which was ennobled to be the transhistorical and positive precondition of human existence, they systematically confuse cause and effect. The speculative expansion of financial markets, which is the cause for the temporary deferment of crisis, is then just the other way around, detected to be the cause of the crisis. The “evil speculators”, they say more or less panic-stricken, will ruin the absolutely wonderful labour society by gambling away “good” money of which they have more than enough just for kicks, instead of bravely investing it in marvellous “jobs” so that a labour maniac humanity may enjoy “full employment” self-indulgently.

It is beyond them that it is by no means speculation that brought investment in real economy to a standstill, but that such investment became unprofitable as a result of the 3rd industrial revolution. The speculative take off of share prices is just a symptom of the inner dynamics. Even according to capitalist logic, this money, seemingly circulating in ever-increasing loads, is not “good” money any longer but rather “hot air” inflating the speculative bubble. Any attempt to tap this bubble by means of whatsoever tax (Tobin-tax, etc.) to divert money flows to the ostensibly “correct” and real social treadmills will most probably bring about the sudden burst of the bubble.

Instead of realising that we all become inexorably unprofitable and therefore the criterion of profitability itself, together with the immanent foundations of labour society, should be attacked as being obsolete, one indulges in demonising the “speculators”. Right-wing extremists, left-wing “subversive elements”, worthy trade unionists, Keynesian nostalgics, social theologians, TV hosts, and all the other apostles of “honest” labour unanimously cultivate such a cheap concept of an enemy. Very few of them are aware of the fact that it is only a small step from such reasoning to the re-mobilisation of the anti-Semitic paranoia. To invoke the “creative power” of national-blooded non-monetary capital to fight the “money-amassing” Jewish-international monetary capital threatens to be the ultimate creed of the intellectually dissolute left; as it has always been the creed of the racist, anti-Semitic, and anti-American “job-creation-scheme” right.

 No.4599

>14. Labour can not be redefined

After centuries of domestication, the modern human being can not even imagine a life without labour. As a social imperative, labour not only dominates the sphere of the economy in the narrow sense, but also pervades social existence as a whole, creeping into everyday life and deep under the skin of everybody. “Free time”, a prison term in its literal meaning, is spent to consume commodities in order to increase (future) sales.

Beyond the internalised duty of commodity consumption as an end-in-itself and even outside offices and factories, labour casts its shadow on the modern individual. As soon as our contemporary rises from the TV chair and becomes active, every action is transformed into an act similar to labour. The joggers replace the time clock by the stopwatch, the treadmill celebrates its post-modern rebirth in chrome-plated gyms, and holidaymakers burn up the kilometres as if they had to emulate the year’s work of a long-distance lorry driver. Even sexual intercourse is orientated towards the standards of sexology and talk show boasting.

King Midas was quite aware of meeting his doom when anything he touched turned into gold; his modern fellow sufferers, however, are far beyond this stage. The demons for work (labour) even don’t realise any longer that the particular sensual quality of any activity fades away and becomes insignificant when adjusted to the patterns of labour. On the contrary, our contemporaries quite generally only ascribe meaning, validity and social significance to an activity if they can square it with the indifference of the world of commodities. His labour’s subjects don’t know what to make of a feeling like grief; the transformation of grief into grieving-work, however, makes the emotional alien element a known quantity one is able to gossip about with people of one’s own kind. This way dreaming turns into dreaming-work, to concern oneself with a beloved one turns into relationship-work, and care for children into child raising work past caring. Whenever the modern human being insists on the seriousness of his activities, he pays homage to the idol by using the word “work” (labour).

The imperialism of labour then is reflected not only in colloquial language. We are not only accustomed to using the term “work/labour” inflationary, but also mix up two essentially different meanings of the word. “Labour” no longer, as it would be correct, stands for the capitalist form of activity carried out in the end-in-itself treadmills, but became a synonym for any goal-directed human effort in general, thereby covering up its historical tracks.

This lack of conceptual clarity paves the way for the widespread “common-sense” critique of labour society, which argues just the wrong way around by affirming the imperialism of labour in a positivist way. As if labour would not control life through and through, the labour society is accused of conceptualising “labour” too narrowly by only validating marketable gainful employment as “true” labour in disregard of morally decent do-it-yourself work or unpaid self-help (housework, neighbourly help, etc.). An upgrading and broadening of the concept labour shall eliminate the one-sided fixation along with the hierarchy involved.

Such thinking is not at all aimed at emancipation from the prevailing compulsions, but is only semantic patchwork. The apparent crisis of the labour society shall be resolved by manipulation of social awareness in elevating services, which are extrinsic to the capitalist sphere of production and deemed to be inferior so far, to the nobility of “true” labour. Yet the inferiority of these services is not merely the result of a certain ideological view, but inherent in the very fabric of the commodity-producing system and cannot be abolished by means of a nice moral re-definition.

What can be regarded as “real” wealth has to be expressed in monetary form in a society ruled by commodity production as an end-in-itself. The concept of labour determined by this structure imperialistically rubs off onto any other sphere, although only in a negative way in making clear that basically everything is subjected to its rule. So the spheres extrinsic to commodity production necessarily remain well within the shadow of the capitalist production sphere because they don’t square with economic administrative time logic even if – and strictly when – their function is vital as it is the case with respect to “female labour” in the spheres of “sweet” home, loving care, etc.

A moralising broadening of the labour concept instead of radical criticism not only veils the social imperialism of the commodity producing economy, but fits extremely well with the authoritarian crisis management. The call for the full recognition of “housework” and other menial services carried out in the so-called “3rd sector”, raised since the 1970s of the last century, was focused on social benefits at the beginning. The administration in crisis, however, has turned the table and mobilises the moral impetus of such a claim straight against financial hopes in making use of the infamous “subsidiarity principle”.

Singing the praise of “honorary posts” and “honorary citizen activity” does not mean that citizens may poke about in the nearly empty public coffers. Rather, it is meant to cover up the state’s retreat from the field of social services, to conceal the forced labour schemes that are already under way, and to mask the mean attempt to shift the burden of crisis onto women. The public institutions retire from social commitment, appealing kindly and free of charge to “all of us” from now on to take “private” initiative in fighting one’s very own or other’s misery and never demand financial aid. This way the definition juggle with the still “sacred” concept of labour, widely misunderstood as an emancipatory approach, clears the way for the abolition of wages by retention of labour on the scorched earth of the market economy. The steps taken by public institutions bear out that today social emancipation cannot be achieved by means of a re-definition of labour, but only by a conscious devaluation of the very concept.

 No.4600

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TOTAL MARXIST VICTORY

 No.4601

>15. The crisis of opposing interests

However much the fundamental crisis of labour is repressed and made a taboo, its influence on any social conflict is undeniable. The transition from a society that was able to integrate the masses to a system of selection and apartheid though did not lead to a new round of the old class struggle between capital and labour. Rather the result was a categorical crisis of the opposing interests as inherent in the system as such. Even in the period of prosperity after World War II, the old emphasis of class struggle was on the wane. The reason for that was not that the “preordained” revolutionary subject (i.e. the working class) had been integrated into society by means of manipulative wheelings and dealings and the bribes of a questionable prosperity. On the contrary, the emphasis faded because the logical identity of capital and labour as functional categories of a common social fetish form became evident on the stage of social development reached in the times of Fordism. The desire to sell the commodity labour power at best price, as immanent in the system, destroyed any transcendental perspective.

Up to the seventies of last century, the working class struggled for the participation of ever larger sections of the population in the venomous fruits of the labour society. Under the crisis conditions of the 3rd Industrial Revolution however, even this impetus lost momentum. Only as long as the labour society expanded, was it possible to stage the battle of opposing interests on a large scale. When the common foundation falls into ruins, it becomes more or less impossible to pursue the interests as inherent in the system by means of joint action. De-solidarity becomes a general phenomenon. Wage workers desert trade unions, senior executives desert employers’ associations – everyone for himself, and the capitalist system-god against everybody. Individualisation, so often invoked, is nothing but another symptom of the crisis of labour society.

It is only on a micro-economic scale that interests may still be able to combine. Inasmuch as it became somewhat of a privilege to organise one’s very own life in accordance with the principles of business administration, which, by the way, makes a mockery of the idea of social emancipation, the representation of the interests of the commodity labour power degenerated into tough lobbyism of ever smaller sections of the society. Whoever is willing to accept the logic of labour has to accept the logic of apartheid as well. The various trade unions focus on ensuring that their ever smaller and very particular membership is able to sell its skin at the cost of the members of other unions. Workers and shop stewards no longer fight the executive management of their own company, but the wage earners of competing enterprises and industrial locations, no matter whether the rivals are based in the nearest neighbourhood or in the Far East. Should the question arise who is going to get the kick when the next internal company rationalisation becomes due, the colleagues next door turn into foes.

The uncompromising de-solidarity is not restricted to the internal conflicts in companies or the rivalry between various trade unions. As all the functional categories of the labour society in crisis fanatically insist on the logic immanent in the system, that is, that the well-being of humans has to be a mere by-product or side effect of capital valorisation, nowadays basically any conflict is governed by the “St. Florian-principle”. (German saying/prayer: “Holy St. Florian, please spare my home. Instead of that you may set on fire the homes in my neighbourhood”. St. Florian is the patron saint of fire protection.) All lobbyists know the rules and play the game. Any penny received by the clients of a competing faction is a loss. Any cut in social security payments to the detriment of others may improve one’s own prospect of a further period of grace. Thus the old-age pensioner becomes the natural adversary of all social security contributors, the sick person turns into the enemy of health insurance policy holders, and the hatred of “native citizens” is unleashed on immigrants.

This way the attempt to use opposing interests inherent in the system as a leverage for social emancipation is irreversibly exhausted. The traditional left has finally reached a dead end. A rebirth of radical critique of capitalism depends on the categorical break with labour. Only if the new aim of social emancipation is set beyond labour and its derivatives (value, commodity, money, state, law as a social form, nation, democracy, etc.), a high level of solidarity becomes possible for society as a whole. Resistance against the logic of lobbyism and individualisation then could point beyond the present social formation, but only if the prevailing categories are referred to in a non-positivist way.

Until now, the left shirks the categorical break with labour society. Systemic constraints are played down to be mere ideology, the logic of the crises is considered to be due to a political project of the “ruling class”. The categorical break is replaced by “social-democratic” and Keynesian nostalgia. The left does not strive for a new concrete universality beyond abstract labour and money form, but frantically holds on to the old form of abstract universality which they deem to be the one and only basis for the battle of opposing interests as intrinsic to the system. However, these attempts remain abstract and cannot integrate any social mass movement simply because the left dodges dealing with the preconditions and causes of the crisis of the labour society.

This is particularly true of the call for a guaranteed citizen’s income. Instead of combining concrete social action and resistance against certain measures of the apartheid regime with a general programme against labour, this demand produces a false universality of social critique, which remains abstract, intrinsic to the system, and helpless in every respect. The motive force behind the cut-throat competition described above cannot be neutralised that way. The full swing of the global labour treadmill to the end of time is ignorantly presupposed; where should the money to finance a state-guaranteed income come from, if not from the smooth running of the valorisation machine? Whoever relies on such a “social dividend” (even this term speaks volumes) has on the quiet to bank on a winner position of his “own” country in the global free-market economy. Only the winner of the free-market world war may be able to afford the feeding of millions of capitalistically “superfluous” and penniless boarders for a short period; furthermore it goes without saying that the holders of foreign passports are then “naturally” excluded.

The do-it-yourself squad of reformism is ignorant of the capitalist constitution of the money form in every respect. In the end, as it becomes apparent that both the labour subject and the commodity-consuming subject are doomed to perish, they only want to rescue the latter one. Instead of calling into question the capitalist way of life as such, they wish that despite crisis, the world is to be buried under a vast column of fuming cars, ugly concrete piles, and trashy commodities. Their main concern is that people may still be able to enjoy the one and only miserable freedom modern humans can conceive of: the freedom of choice in front of supermarket shelves.

Yet even this sad and reduced perspective is completely illusionary. Its left-wing protagonists – and theoretical illiterates – have long forgotten that capitalist commodity consumption has never been about the satisfaction of needs, but is and has always been nothing but a function and mere by-product of the valorisation process. When labour power cannot be sold any longer, even essential needs are regarded as outrageous luxury claims, which must be lowered to a minimum. That’s why, under the circumstances of crisis, a citizen’s income-scheme will suggest itself as a solution. As an instrument for the reduction of government spending, it will become the cheap version of social benefits, replacing the collapsing social insurance system. It was Milton Friedman, the brain of neo-liberalism, who originally designed the concept of a citizen’s income just for the reduction of public expenditure. A disarmed left now takes up this concept as if it is a lifeline. However, citizen’s income will become reality only as pittance – or it will never be.

 No.4602

>>4596
>>4600
Shut the fuck up LARPer and read a motherfucking book.

 No.4603

>16. The abolition of labour

The categorical break with labour will not find any existing, objectively determinable social camp, as it was the case in respect to traditional social action as inherent in the system. It is a break with the false and misleading laws and the common-sense thinking of a “second nature”, and by no means the only repeated and quasi-automatic execution of the latter. Instead of that, the break requires a negating consciousness, refusal and rebellion without being able to rely on the backing of whatsoever “law of history”. No abstract-universal principle can provide the point of departure, but only the repulsion of one’s very own existence as a subject of labour and competition and the flat refuse of a life to rule on an ever more miserable level.

For all its predominance, labour has never succeeded in completely wiping out the disgust at the constraints brought about by this form of social mediation. Apart from all the forms of regressive fundamentalism, the competition complex at the heart of social Darwinism in particular, a potential for protest and resistance does still exist. Anxiety and uneasiness is widespread, but was repressed to the socio-psychic subconscious and thereby silenced. For this reason, it is necessary to clear space for intellectual and mental freedom to enable the thinking of the unthinkable. The labour camp’s world monopoly of interpretation must be contested. Theoretical reflection of labour can serve as a catalyst. It is the task of theory to fiercely attack the ban on thinking and to say loudly and clearly what nobody dares to think, but many people sense: the labour society is nearing its end. And there is definitely no reason to deplore its demise.

Only an explicitly formulated critique of labour along with a corresponding theoretical debate could bring about a new public awareness; the latter being the indispensable prerequisite for the constitution of a social movement that puts labour critique into practice. The interior controversies of the labour camp are exhausted and become more and more absurd. That is why there is a dire need for a re-determination of social conflict lines along which a social movement against labour can form up.

It is necessary to describe in broad outline what are the possible goals for a world beyond labour. However, it is not a canon of positivist principles that feeds the programme against labour, rather it is the power of negation. In the course of the enforcement of labour, the basic means and social relations constituting life were alienated from humans. The negation of labour society is only possible if humans re-appropriate their capacity of social existence as social beings on an even higher historical level. The opponents of labour will strive for the constitution of global associations of free individuals who are ready to wrest the means of production and existence from the labour idol’s hand and its idle running valorisation machine in order to take charge of social reproduction themselves. Only in struggling against the monopolisation of all social resources and potentials for material wealth withheld by the powers of alienation as objectified in market and state, can social realms of emancipation be conquered.

This implies that private property must be attacked in a different way. For the traditional left, private property was not the legal form intrinsic to the commodity producing system, but merely an ominous and subjective capitalist “control” over resources. That gave rise to the absurd idea that private property could be overcome in terms of the categories of the system itself. State property (“nationalisation”) seemed to be the counter model of private property. The state, however, is nothing but the outer cloak of forced community or, in other words, the abstract generality of the socially atomised commodity producers. Hence, state property is a form which itself is derived from private property, no matter whether garnished with the adjective “socialist” or not.

In the crisis of labour society, both private property and state property become obsolete because any of them require a smoothly running valorisation process. That is the reason why tangible assets increasingly turn into dead assets. Industrial and legal institutions jealously guard them and put them under lock and key to make sure that the means of production decay rather than be made available for other purposes. A takeover of the means of production by associations of free individuals against the resistance of the state, its legal institutions, and the repressive constraints exerted by them, implies that these means of production will no longer be mobilised in the form of commodity production for the anonymous markets.

Commodity production then will be replaced by open debate, mutual agreement, and collective decision of all members of society on how resources can be used wisely. It will become possible to establish the institutional identity of producers and consumers, unheard-of and unthinkable under the dictate of the capitalist end-in-itself. Market and state, institutions (once) alienated from human society, will be replaced by a graded system of councils, from town district level to the global level, where associations of free individuals will decide about the flow of resources in letting prevail sensual, social, and ecological reason.

No longer will labour and “occupation” as and end-in-itself govern life, but the organisation of the wise use of common (species) capacities which will no longer be subjected to the control of the automatic “invisible hand”, but will be conscious social action. The material wealth produced will be appropriated according to needs and not according to “solvency”. When labour vanishes, the abstract universality of money and state will dissolve as well. A one-world society with no need for borders will take the place of the separated nations – a world where everybody can move freely and will be able to avail himself of universal hospitality.

Critique of labour does not mean to coexist peacefully with the systemic constraints and take refuge to some social niche-resort, but is in fact a declaration of war on the prevailing order. The slogans of social emancipation only can be: Let’s take what we need! We no longer bow under the yoke of labour! We will no longer be down on our knees before the democratic crisis administration! The basic prerequisite is that the new forms of social organization (free associations, councils) are in control of all the material and social means of social reproduction. In that, our vision differs fundamentally from the limited goals of the narrow-minded lobbyists of an “allotment garden” socialism.

The rule of labour brought about a split in human personality and mind. It separates the economic subject from the citizen, the workhorse from the party animal, abstract public life from abstract private life, socially constituted maleness from socially constituted femaleness, and it confronts the isolated individuals with their very own social species capacities and social commonality as an extrinsic foreign power dominating them. The opponents of labour are striving to overcome this schizophrenia by means of a concrete re-appropriation of the social context through conscious and self-reflecting human action.

 No.4604

>>4546
>cum isn't produced in the balls
True. Cum is produced by thought. First there was the idea (of cum) then cum was produced (=materialized).

 No.4605

>>4602
Im not a larper. i live and die for the people

 No.4606

>17. A programme on the abolishment of labour directed against the enthusiasts of labour

The opponents of labour will certainly be accused of being nothing but dreamers. History has shown that a society that is not based on the principles of labour, repression, free market competition, and egoism cannot work, they will say. Do you, apologists of the prevailing order, really want to claim that the capitalist commodity production has brought about at least a passable life for the majority of the global population? Do you call it “smooth working” if, due to the rapid growth of the productive forces, billions of humans are ostracised and can consider themselves lucky when they can survive on waste dumps? What about those billions of other people who can only endure their harassed life under the rule of labour in isolating themselves and numbing their minds by exposing themselves to a constant stream of dreary “entertainment” and fall mentally and physically sick in the end? What about the fact that the world is made a desert currently just to breed more money out of money? Well! That’s the way your marvellous labour system “works”. To be honest with you, we really don’t want to cover ourselves with the glory of such “exploits”!

Your conceit rests on your ignorance and the weakness of your memory. In justification of your present and future crimes, you rely on the disastrous state of the world as brought about by your earlier crimes. It slipped your mind – actually you suppressed all memory of it – that the state was obliged to commit mass murder to drum your false “law of nature” into people until it became their second nature to consider it a privilege to be employed under the orders of the system idol who drains their life energy for the absurd end-in-itself.

It was necessary to eradicate all the institutions of social self-organisation and self-determination constituting the old agrarian societies before mankind was ripe to internalise the rule of labour and selfishness. Maybe you did a thorough job. We are not over-optimistic. We cannot know whether Pavlov’s dogs can escape from their conditioned existence. It remains to be seen whether the decline of labour will lead to a cure of labour-mania or to the end of civilisation.

You will argue that superseding private property and abolishing the social constraint of earning money will result in inactivity and that laziness will spread. So you confess that your entire “natural” system is based on nothing but coercive force? Is this the reason why you dread laziness as a mortal sin committed against the spirit of the labour idol? Frankly, the opponents of labour are not against laziness. We will give priority to the restoration of a culture of leisure, which was once the hallmark of any society but was exterminated to enforce restless production divested of any sense and meaning. That’s why the opponents of labour will lose no time in shutting down all those branches of production which only exist to let keep running the maniac end-in-itself machinery of the commodity producing system, regardless of the consequences.

And don’t believe that we are only talking about the car industry, defence industry, and nuclear industry, that is to say, industries, which are obviously a public danger. We also think of the large number of “mental crutches” and silly fancy-goods designed to create the illusion of a full life. Furthermore, those occupations will disappear that only came into being because the masses of products had and have to be forced through the bottleneck of money form and market relations. Or do you think we will be still in need of accountants, controllers, marketing advisers, salesmen, and advertising copywriters if things are produced according to needs and everybody can take what he or she wants? Why should there be revenue officers and police forces, welfare workers and poverty administrators when there is no private property to protect, no poverty to administer, and nobody who has to be drilled in obeying alienated systemic constraints?

We can already hear the outcry: What about all these jobs? That’s right! You are welcome to figure out what part of its lifetime humanity squanders every single day in accumulating “dead labour”, in controlling people, and in greasing the systemic machinery. Entire libraries are cram-full of volumes describing the grotesque, repressive, and destructive properties of things produced by the end-in-itself social machinery. If we would only switch it off, we could bask in the sun for hours. Don’t be afraid however. That does not mean that all activity will cease if the coercion exerted by labour were to disappear. It is the quality of human activity, though, that will change as soon as it is no longer subject to a sphere of abstract (Newtonian) time flow, divested of any meaning and a mere end-in-itself, but which can be carried out in accord with an individual and variable time scale fitting with one’s own way of life. The same applies to large-scale production when people will be able to decide themselves how to organise the procedures and sequences of operation without being subjected to the compulsions of valorisation. Why should we allow the impertinent impositions forced upon us by means of the “law of competition” to haunt us? It is necessary to rediscover slowness and tranquillity.

What will not vanish are housekeeping and the care for people who became “invisible” under the conditions of the labour society, basically all those activities that were separated from “political economy” and stamped “female”. Neither the preparation of a delicious meal, nor baby care can be automated. When along with the abolition of labour the gender segregation will dissolve, these essential activities can be brought to the light of a conscious social (re-)organisation beyond gender stereotypes. The repressive character of the “chores” will dissolve as soon as people are no longer subsumed under what essentially constitutes their life. Men and women likewise then can do those things according to the circumstances and the actual needs.

Our contention is not that every activity will turn into pure pleasure. Some of them will, some of them will not. It goes without saying that there will always be necessities. But who will be scared of that if it doesn’t consume one’s life? There will be always more that can be done of one’s own accord. Being active is as much a need as leisure. Even labour was not capable of wiping out this need, but exploited it for its own ends, thereby sucking it dry like a vampire.

The opponents of labour are neither fanatics of blind activism nor do they champion passive loafing. Leisure, dealing with necessities and voluntary activities are to be balanced wisely, taking in account actual needs and the individual circumstances of life. As soon as the productive forces are freed from the capitalist constraints of labour, disposable time for the individual will increase. Why should we spend long hours in assembly shops or offices when machines of all kind can do such “work”? Why should hundreds of human bodies get into a sweat when only a few harvesters can achieve the same result? Why should we busy our intellect with dull routine when computers can easily accomplish the objects?

Only the lesser part of technology can be adopted in its capitalist form, though. The bulk of technical units will have to be reshaped because they were constructed in accordance with the narrow-minded criterions of abstract profitability. On the other hand, for the same reason, many technological conceptions were debarred from realisation. Even though solar energy can be produced “just round the corner”, labour society banks on centralised large-scale power stations at the hazard of human life. Ecologically friendly methods of cultivation are well known long since, but the abstract profit calculation pours thousands of toxic substances into the water, ruins the fertile soil, and pollutes the air. For mere “economic-administrative” reasons, construction components and groceries are sent round the globe although most things could be produced locally and could be delivered by short-distance freight-traffic. For the most part, capitalist technology is just as absurd and superfluous as the entailed expenditure of human energy utilised in the industrial process.

We don’t tell you anything new. You do know all these things very well. Nevertheless, you will never draw the logical consequences and will act accordingly. You refuse to decide consciously how to make use of the means of production, transportation, and communication wisely and which options should be discarded because they are destructive or simply unnecessary. The more hectically you reel off your mantra of “freedom and democracy”, the more grimly you refuse any social freedom of choice in respect of even essential matters because of your desire to keep on obeying the ruling corpse of labour and its pseudo “laws of nature”.

 No.4607

>>4605
>I'm not a LARPer, I only post sentences devoid of meaning beyond virtue signalling on an imageboard.
OK

 No.4608

>18. The struggle against labour is anti-politics

The abolition of labour is anything else but obscure utopia. In its present form, global society can not survive for more than 50 or 100 years. The fact that the opponents of labour have to deal with the clinically dead labour idol does not necessarily make their task any easier. The more the crisis of labour society is worsening and reformist attempts of “repair work” fail, the more the gap is widening between the isolated and helpless monads as constituted by (capitalist) society and the potential formation of a movement that is ready to re-appropriate the socially constituted species capacities. The rapid degeneration of social relations all over the world proves that the old ideas and sentiments on labour and competition are unshaken, but are readjusted to ever-lower standards. Step-by-step de-civilisation seems to be the “natural” course of the crisis despite widespread discontent and unease.

Especially because of these bleak prospects, it would be fatal to refrain from criticising labour practically by means of a comprehensive socially all-embracing programme and to confine oneself to the scraping of a bare living in the ruins of labour society. Criticism of labour will only stand a chance if it swims against the tide of de-socialisation instead of being carried away by it. The standards of civilisation, however, cannot be defended by means of democratic politics, but only by fighting against it.

Those who aim at the emancipatory re-appropriation and transformation of the entire social fabric can hardly ignore the authority that has so far organised the general conditions. It is impossible to rebel against the expropriation of the social general capacities without heading for confrontation with the state. The state is not only the custodian of about 50 percent of the national social wealth, but also guarantees that all social capacities are compulsorily subject to the dictates of valorisation. It is a truism that the opponents of labour cannot ignore state and politics. Yet it is also true that the opponents of labour can not succeed in being supportive of the state.

If the end of labour implies the end of politics, a political movement for the abolition of labour is a contradiction in terms. The opponents of labour make demands on the state, but they do not form a political party and will never do so. The whole point of politics is to seize power (i.e. to become “the administration”) and to carry on with labour society. That’s why the opponents of labour don’t want to take the control centres of power, but want to switch them off. Our policy is “anti-politics”.

State and politics of the modern age and the coercive system of labour are inseparably intertwined and have to disappear side by side. The twaddle about a renaissance of politics is just an attempt to haul back the critique of economic terror to the right road of positivist civil action. Self-organisation and self-determination, however, is the exact opposite of state and politics. Winning socio-economic and cultural freedom is not feasible in a political roundabout way, through official channels, or other wrong tracks of this sort, but in constituting a countersociety. Freedom neither means to be the human raw material of the markets, nor does it mean to be the dressage horse of state administration. Freedom means that human beings organise their social relations on their own without the intervention and mediation of an alienated apparatus.

According to this spirit, the opponents of labour want to create new forms of social movement and want to occupy bridgeheads for a reproduction of life beyond labour. It is now a question of combining a counter-social practice with the offensive refusal of labour.

May the ruling powers call us fools because we risk the break with their irrational compulsory system! We have nothing to lose but the prospect of a catastrophe that humanity is currently heading for with the executives of the prevailing order at the helm. We can win a world beyond labour.

Workers of all countries, call it a day!

 No.4609

>>4603
>Abolition of labour
<No mention of automation
>Instead: abolition is achieved by critique
Lmao

 No.4610

>>4609
See >>4606
>Why should we spend long hours in assembly shops or offices when machines of all kind can do such “work”? Why should hundreds of human bodies get into a sweat when only a few harvesters can achieve the same result? Why should we busy our intellect with dull routine when computers can easily accomplish the objects?

 No.4611

>>4608
Anti-politics is anti-thought.
>Bro, just critique existing material reality away

 No.4612

>>4607
I'm not virtue signaling. This is an anonymous image board, so I cannot virtue signal. It is not virtue, it is a material fact.

Someone really should make a manifesto against work thread. Its a shitty and worthless manifesto; each and every problem of anarchism is prevalent within it.

 No.4613

>>4610
Just 3 years ago I've seen the new hot capitalist (business/factory) news where they said that finally they achieved the necessary technology for assembly line robot arms to pick up differently shaped watermelons correctly.

This was in 2021. According to your idiocy "computers shud du errythang already" but the tech is literally not yet there.

Your idiocy appeals only to people who are far removed from the realities of value creation (=production). As it stands the wast majority of human labor is not ready to be automated.

t. Factory worker who spends 8 hours a screwing in 4000 pumps into 4000 bottles filled with cleaning liquids a day for a living (who also read more books than you)

 No.4614

>>4611
It's anti-politics in the sense that socdems and the pro-labour left won't save your ass once they get a hold onto state power. They will inevitably tell you to go back to the wage cage. They might give you a wage increase, but it will be eaten up by inflation five years later.
>The whole point of politics is to seize power (i.e. to become “the administration”) and to carry on with labour society.
>State and politics of the modern age and the coercive system of labour are inseparably intertwined and have to disappear side by side. The twaddle about a renaissance of politics is just an attempt to haul back the critique of economic terror to the right road of positivist civil action
>Self-organisation and self-determination […] is the exact opposite of state and politics.
The state is not your friend because the state want to grease the palm of its bourgeois friends with freshly printed money and nothing else, the state doesn't give a shit about poor plebeian ass, whenever you are a student or a prole.

>May the ruling powers call us fools because we risk the break with their irrational compulsory system! We have nothing to lose but the prospect of a catastrophe that humanity is currently heading for with the executives of the prevailing order at the helm. We can win a world beyond labour.

>Workers of all countries, call it a day!
Now go on a fucking strike instead of having petty squabbles with your playground comrades.

 No.4615

>>4613
Didn't want to do it, but anon, this is like watching the first planes fly and saying
>oh okay, so man CAN fly. Big whoop. It's so far off from being a form of mass transportation.
When in just over half a century you had jet airliners.

 No.4616

But if you strike, the capitalist just fires you, or moves, then you become homeless 🤷‍♂️

 No.4617

>>4613
The technology isn't there yet, that's right. Instead the bourgeoisie will deskill your job and you will earn less while being reduced to the function of a sanity check for AI-powered machines, and you will become more and more powerless to fight against your overlords once the transition is over.
The future isn't full automation, but the Amazon Mechanical Turk and being paid by the micro-task, tâcheronnage for the 21st century is you will.
That's why it's critical to fight for less labour hours right fucking now, instead of fighting needleesly with your comrades who ultimately want the same thing as you, like a snot-nosed child.

 No.4618

>>4616
What can the bourgeoisie sell if most low-level workers/executants go on strike? That's right, fucking nothing. We still have the upperhand for now.

 No.4619

So your advice is literally to become homeless

 No.4620

>>4578
No, I'm being honest
What's ridiculous is posting on leftist /pol/ and feeling arrogant because you have the "right position" (just Cold War campism 30 years after the USSR cucked itself lmao)

 No.4621

>>4619
Do you have a better plan than going on strike? Voting for socdems? Not doing anything except badmouthing comrades on an obscure Vietnamese taxi-driver imageboard? Waiting for the perfect ideal party to do the job for us? Do you think a revolution is a walk in a park? I thought the userbase of this place were radical revolutionaries, and you are afraid of getting fired by your boss, seriously?

 No.4622

>>4614
>I have to further qualify my initial bombastic claim to mean actually more nuanced, more realistic, more qualitative, more more more
You are fucked in the head

 No.4623

>>4615
I'm actually putting things into perspective, you drooler. I'm not saying it's impossible or undesirable, I'm saying this is where we are objectively at.

 No.4624

>>4621
>>4621
>Not doing anything except badmouthing comrades on an obscure Vietnamese taxi-driver imageboard?
Irony of saying this while actively derailing a thread for anarchists
And pathetic LARPers that simp for mass murderers that have no connection to them aren't "comrades"

 No.4625

>>4617
>The future is fighting capitalists for more automation
That's literally not how it works. Capitalists HATE, ABSOLUTELY HATE AUTOMATING, UNLESS THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE.

 No.4626

>>4618
The only serious way to follow this to its logical conclusion is only that the working class is capable of collectively threatening suicide

 No.4627

>>4619
Embrace anarcho-homelessism.

 No.4628

>>4627
so just normal anarchism

 No.4629

>>4563
>None of this is irrelevant.
This thread is, this whole board is. Yeah, the ideological struggle matters, but somebody's gotta call these preening soft handed Narodniks out. And I've assigned myself that duty while I dooty on the clock.
>>4550
I'm not currently demoralized, I'm probably just a more dynamic person than you.

 No.4630

>>4628
Add drugs, rape, and a thick layer of pretension. Then, yes.

 No.4631

>>4613??
As someone who tries to make automation happen in my own factory its part bullshit. The technology is there and available and often has been there for decades. They frequently just dont want to.

 No.4632

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>Post thread for anarchists
<Sexless ML larpers derail it as quickly as possible, as usual
<<"Wow why do heckin sectarian anarchists hate us???"
It'd be funny if they didn't take themselves seriously
But the fact that they DO take their neckbeard antics seriously is what makes it outright HILARIOUS

 No.4633

why do they always think about sex

 No.4634

>>4631
See >>4625
Robots, as of now, are lame as fuck. Fucking every 4 year old can pick up a watermelon from point A and put it on point B. That was not possible with robots 5 years ago.

My fucking point: to write bombastic (while untrue) passages about how "ANYTHING CAN BE AUTOMATED ALREADY" is pure horseshit, wheter it comes from the mouth of Elon Musk or an ultra-leftist.

Tech is tech. Current year is current year.

Reality, you must deal with.

 No.4635

>>4490
>How to not get demoralized and tired as an Anarchist when you constantly have to deal with Marxists?
do the thing they hate the most: ignore them

 No.4636

>>4632
>anarchist sex
<lets get high on MDMA and do it
>Marxist sex
>Let's do what we always do, cuz I luv u

 No.4637

>>4563
>Nope. Straw man fallacy. Its all concrete. Look to every existing anarchist movement, leader, state, etc.
It's worthless because it never has anything to do with the actual thoughts, claims, ideas, or movement of anarchism.
It ultimately comes down to Marxists, who themselves are willfully ignorant of anarchism, assessing how well Anarchism achieved the objectives of Marxists, namely state formation, military conquest, and state directed development and welfare.

Marxist critiques of Anarchism are essentially worthless because the critique is that Anarchism is not Marxism. It boils down to Marxists being extremely arrogant for having engaged with Marxism and Marxism alone, the only radical critique most Marxists have ever actually dealt with.

Hence why your arguments tend to be tangential. The main objective of Anarchism isn't state directed development for instance. Nor is it revolutionary terror in order to create a police state. The Marxist criticism of Anarchism is essentially that Anarchists failed to follow the strategy of Marxism, it boils down to dogmatism as usual; coupled with the tendency of Marxists to be extremely elitist and only willing to engage with ideas liberal academia already respects and accepts to a certain degree.

 No.4638

>>4637
>Marxists, who themselves are willfully ignorant of anarchism
Lel

 No.4639

>>4597
Good effort but wasted

 No.4640

>>4637
>The Marxist criticism of Anarchism is essentially that Anarchists failed to follow the strategy of Marxism
No. The Marxist criticism of Anarchism is essentially that Anarchists failed to follow the strategy of Anarchism. When they partially succeeded they veered into Marxism. When they failed, they remained anarchists.

 No.4641

>>4637
>Elitist lefty edge lords telling me off for just vibing it with politics with their "history of building a leftist society"
Oh God the cringe, what are you doing to next? Claim colleges have been overtaken by Marxist professors? Or perhaps all Marxists are snotty teenagers that have never worked a day in their lives? I'm sure Fox News is broadcasting a line you can use against the "Elitism of Marxism" right now.

 No.4642

Ex-ancom ML here.

Feel free to adk me why anarchism necessarily fails.

 No.4643

>>1729971
>You are me. You suck.
Epic

 No.4644

>>4597
Yes, very good post

 No.4645

>>4622
You are someone who browses /leftypol/ in 2024, I have no lesson to receive from you about "being fucked in the head" or what is sane.

>>4624
I derailed the thread because it was absolute shit, and if I were a mod, I would have nuked it and banned half of you. Now we are discussing real shit at least.
Saying "I'm a poor anarchist, it's so unfair" while not proving in the slightest that you have a better plan than MLs to defeat the capitalist world system is fucking useless, instead you make anarchist comrades look like morons exactly like a wrecker would do. Git gud.

>>4625
>The future is fighting capitalists for more automation
Where did I say so? I said capitalists will half-assedly automate your job, but not fully. You will be a sanity check for automation, human labour will still exist.
>Capitalists HATE, ABSOLUTELY HATE AUTOMATING, UNLESS THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE.
Not if they can pay you half of what they are paying you right now for the same production as you are presently doing, except you won't have the right to strike back anymore because you will be an easily replaceable puppet.
It's great for capitalists to have an easily replaceable labour force, instead of skilled executants you need to deal with, which might want to introduce labour union into the company and so on.
The only reason capitalists hate automation is because it's cheaper to delocalize production and pay workers in Bangladesh for peanuts instead of investing into machinery, but you can't delocalize eternally.
Moreover, at some point, a capitalist like Jeff Bezos above the rest of them all will gain more profits for a short while by automating successfully, and everybody else will inevitably have to follow suit.
Feel free to prove me wrong, but translators of books are already experiencing this semi-automation of tasks. You don't want to pay much more for someone doing the job in an old-fashioned way when having an army of underpaid people doing a sanity check on automated translation could do the same just as fine.

>>4626
>AK47 flag
>too much of a pussy to participate in a general strike
Behold the greatest revolutionaries of /leftypol/!

 No.4646

>>4643
wow epic gotcha comrade

 No.4647

>>4634
No, man, you have to call out the bullshit deliberate retarding of technology thats been happening under the last 50 odd years. Its not like robots couldnt be made that could handle fucking watermelons 10 years ago, its just fuckers which have finally, dragging their asses, made it possible to pick them up in some way or another, with a more generic gripper hand.
This is fucking bullshit. I see tasks done by hand all the time that are trivial to automate.

I MAKE TOOLS THAT REPLACE HAND LABOR IN THE SPAN OF A WEEK AND THEY REFUSE TO IMPLEMENT IT

 No.4648

Jannies just need to be harsher enforcing 14f.

Like I assume this is low effort bait–since it tries to treat marxism and anarchism as seperate, as though the two haven't inseperably welded since Mao–but this is genuinely a real issue that the 14f rule is supposed to solve. If you whack-a-mole the sectarianism quick enough, baby MLs will give up and listen to people with more books on their belt, and can actually concieve a praxis for their theory beyond waiting and getting excited at happenings.

 No.4649

>>4645
Wut
That isnt something I said?
???

 No.4650

>>4648
>it tries to treat marxism and anarchism as seperate
err

 No.4651

>>4632
You are the sexless anarchist lumpen neckbeard freak. You are projecting your sexlessness.
<<"Wow why do heckin sectarian anarchists hate us???"
This was never asked. We hate the anarchists, for what they ultimately represent. Anarchists are the sectarians, as you've demonstrated.

 No.4652

>>4648
The jannies need to purge these anarchists. The communists have done only what is right; that being refuting their bourgeois ideology

 No.4653

>>4490
The decisive moment for the jannies to act is NOW. Communism and anarchism are antithetical in all principles. This anarchist circus MUST end

 No.4654

>>4651
>>4652
drunk, .net or ai?

 No.4655

>>4650
Neither are, without the other, relevant in the current material conditions. You need both. Read Mao.

 No.4656

>>4655
>read mao
Read Marx.

 No.4657

>>4652
>>4653
This but unironically. There has been so many threads all started seemingly just to cry about "tankies" that I think it's probably just one guy with a chip on his shoulder at this point.

 No.4658

>>4656
Marx is prerequisite reading to read Mao.

 No.4659

>>4647
>I MAKE TOOLS THAT REPLACE HAND LABOR IN THE SPAN OF A WEEK AND THEY REFUSE TO IMPLEMENT IT
They might do so because managers might get less funding for their departments if you automate too much away right now.
One thing leftists here tend to overlook is intra-corporation politics.
As a manager, you want to have more people under your belt as long as the department you are managing is profitable, because you can get more funding.
The real capitalist owner of the company might want more money right now, but he is too lazy and far up his own ass to know about what their employees produce. Having power over employees might be more important for a cuck manager who doesn't really own the means of production, only power over how the production is going on, to feel self-important.
That's why middle-managers want people in the IT sector to go back to the office even though they could liquidate the offices to make a quick buck, instead of falling for the sunk-cost fallacy. It's not 100% about getting the most profits for the boss, even at higher ranks.

>>4649
>collectively threatening suicide
It's not suicide. We are the labourers, we make the shit they sell. If we had enough with this shit, we can break the windows of a brick-and-mortar business and get the food inside. We can create solidarity networks among ourselves. Real anarchists who don't waste time whining on imageboards know this very well.
The bourgeoisie, the landlords, the cops and the army don't produce shit, they are parasites. They can kill us all but they won't be able to operate the machines within the exisiting system except if they become part of the proletariat themselves. Again, a revolution isn't a walk in a park. It's not suicide, it's getting the fruits of what we produce for ourselves and nothing more.

 No.4660

>>4638
Unironically yes
I was quite condescending back as a ML before ever engaging with anarchist theory
The idea that it's actually le anarchists refusing superior Marxist theory is ultimately just a lie to justify the willfull ignorance of Marxists, most anarchists have actually read Marx and accepted the parts of his analysis they find useful and relevant
It becomes evident that most Marxists have never read anything claimed by anarchists let alone engage with us in good faith when they continue to reference early 20th Century history

Arguably most Marxists haven't even read modern theory from other Marxists

Arguably most haven't read Marx's own theories either and are mostly repeating the meme arguments they learned when they got pipelined into simping over Stalin's corpse
>>4651
>We hate anarchists for what they ultimately represent
Liberation without euphemism or a catch?
>>4652
>>4653
>Our theories are so strong and infallible we need to actively Purge the board whenever enough people refuse to engage in the circlejerk
The intellectual might of Stalinism on full display
Hasn't it been statistically proven that simps for autocrats tend to be stupider than the average individual?
Would explain why the superior theory of stalinism can only defend itself by silencing criticism
>>4645
I don't have a plan, I'm better than MLs for the simple fact that my politics doesn't center around idealism towards workers and elitism

 No.4661

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>thread still burning on rage fumes and butthurt
Yeah, this is an anarchist thread alright.

 No.4662

>>4645
>Feel free to prove me wrong
Under the capitalist stage of imperialism it is wastly more profitable to move away production from homeland to imperialized/backwards countries since profits are tied to exploitation of labor. To automate 'at home' (to develop constant capital at home instead of broadening variable capital abroad) IS ONLY MORE PROFITABLE if your market competition already moved abroad. I keep reminding you faggots about the fact that capital is nothing if there was no exploitable work. Capital does not follow the "rational, straight road to automation," instead it follows the road of more and more surplus labour FIRST, automation SECOND.

I won't even touch your contested theory about "productivity" as such. There's ample evidence that third world (etc.) work force are in fact MORE PRODUCTIVE ON THE SAME (TECH-LEVEL) MoP than first world counterparts for obvious reasons, including, but not limited to, way more lax labour laws, more intensive AND longer working hours, NOT TO MENTION THE ADDED BENEFIT OF HAVING OUTSOURCED EXPLOITATION TO THE THIRD WORLD WHILE BUMPING UP WAGES FROM THE SAME STREAM.

THAT'S RIGHT, FIRSTIE, YOUR WAGE, AS A (LABOUR ARISTOCRAT) INCLUDES ADDITIONS FROM EXPLOITING THE GLOBAL SOUTH.

 No.4663

>>4641
The elitism of Marxists is evident from the fact that Marxists mock anarchists for engaging in mutual aid with the most vulnerable population is in their communities namely homeless people
Mocking anarchists over "lacking theory" is also reeking with elitism, basically, your political perspective is only worthwhile if there's a library of academic texts dedicated to it

 No.4664

why do anarchists always support nato/us backed wars

 No.4665

>>4647
>Its not like robots couldnt be made that could handle fucking watermelons 10 years ago,
But it do be like this, in actual reality, dude.

Granted, them fuckers weren't motivated to invest in tech research to make it available for a long time, but it do be like that

 No.4666

>>4660
Markus, please stop samefagging and read Mao [and all prerequisite authors] already.

 No.4667

>>4660
Ugh, if there's anything I hate, it's
>Back when I was an X
And then projecting your own bollocks on to X.

MLs aren't to blame because you were a silly billy and thought it was just about simping for Stalin being based or some shit back when you "used to be an ML".

 No.4668


 No.4669

>>4648
>baby MLs
As opposed to adult anarchists, who to this day, failed to put one (¹) satellite in orbit.

 No.4670


 No.4671

>>4663
>Moralism
It's nice to do charity, it's just not revolutionary in of itself.
>Mocking anarchists over "lacking theory" is also reeking with elitism, basically, your political perspective is only worthwhile if there's a library of academic texts dedicated to it
Yes, because it means that someone has sat down to have a proper think about this stuff and what they've written down has made enough sense to enough people to be notable or even have other build off of those writings further, just fugging vibin' it ends up with some really poorly thought out ideas and is only valuable to those who thought them up, if those ideas come under scrutiny then all that comes from that is cope like this where apparently not staking a revolution on your vibes is elitism.

 No.4672


 No.4673

>>4660
>most anarchists have actually read Marx
Lol, lmao, even

 No.4674

>>4667
Has nothing to do with "who is to blame", more accurately that whenever MLs claim to have been anarchists or to have engaged with anything anarchists have ever said you can assume they are lying, both because of their breathtaking displays of ignorance both of their own ideas as well as anarchism, secondly because most MLs will mock the notion of having principles as "liberalism" and are intellectually dishonest almost by default, at least regarding anything they've been taught to be inquisitorial towards

 No.4675

>>4671
Mutual aid is itself more revolutionary than anything Marxists have done in my country in my entire lifetime

 No.4676

>>4663
>The elitism of Marxists is evident from the fact that Marxists mock anarchists
Elitism = when u r right and babby with a pacifier in his mouth is wrong

 No.4677

>>4675
giving me free blowjobs is more revolutionary than anything anarchists have done in my country in my entire lifetime

 No.4678

>>4664
It's due to the hard fact that anarchists NEVER actually entered the arena of geopolitics, since they remain to be irrelevant as their ideology pre-coded it.

That's all.

Anarchism = irrelevance.

Irrelevance in praxis is due to idealism in theory.

 No.4679

>>4662
I already pointed out the fact that you can't delocalize production eternally. We aren't in the 1980s anymore.
Moreover, the Amazon Mechanical Turk combines automation with the labour of Kenyan workers doing micro-tasks all day all in one package. The bourgeoisie is already three steps of your poor-ass.

Anyway, you are another wrecker who wants us to divide us among nationalistic lines, le good innocent thirdies vs le bad Brit minimum wage workers profiting of imperialism by being barely able to pay up the rent. We know the drill.
Can't wait for you thirdies to actually go on strike and make the profits of the bourgeoisie crash with no survivors, instead of painting yourselves as both heroes of the working class and victims while doing nothing else than propping up the profits of imperialists for the benefit of the foreign bourgeoisie. It would be good for a change if you actually did something, I don't give a single fuck if more inflation is coming our way if you actually had the guts to do something for a change instead of being slaves as usual.

 No.4680

Please, ro anyone sane, don't read the following passage, it's a waste of time.
>Yes, because it means that someone has sat down to have a proper think about this stuff and what they've written down has made enough sense to enough people to be notable or even have other build off of those writings further, just fugging vibin' it ends up with some really poorly thought out ideas and is only valuable to those who thought them up, if those ideas come under scrutiny then all that comes from that is cope like this where apparently not staking a revolution on your vibes is elitism.
Where are your actual, real life achievements, dog?

 No.4681

>>4674
>secondly because most MLs will mock the notion of having principles as "liberalism"
Oh please, we're in a very materialist game, if the situation has to change according to the material reality then Marxists have the confidence to work within the constraints and change the means to reach the goal. It's not principled to be forever primed to fucking split movements because the situation didn't align with your "principals" and working in a soup kitchen will not change that.

 No.4682

>>4672
>no read anarchist
Classic ™

 No.4683

>>4682
I'm against anarchism.

 No.4684

>>4680
>What colour is your Bugatti?
There's no need to get this hurt because books are important and always have been.

 No.4685

>>4675
Muh, muh, muh-
>In my country
>[CIA manipulated, bourgeois controlled, literally imperialist hellhole with the largest proportion of labour aristocracy recorded in humanity
<…actual Marxists did nothan for me
…as opposed to NATO

 No.4686

>>4681
Funny how the material constraints of reality both lead Marxists and liberals to slaughter workers and communists over and over and over again

 No.4687

>>4685
>Mutual aid
<muh NATO
never change cucks, you have no agency, now go back to the cagie to make more profits for the imperialists, little slave

 No.4688

>>4685
Markus, please stop samefagging and read Mao [and all prerequisite authors] already.

 No.4689

File: 1705511733075.jpg (38.84 KB, 600x316, victory-vpgrzv.jpg)

MARXISM-LENINISM REIGNS SUPREME, AS ALWAYS.


ANARCHISTS BTFO ON ALL POINTS.

VICTORY TO THE PROLETARIAT

 No.4690

>>4686
If they're splitters, then yes, because the times where splitters were not removed are also the times when counter-revolutionaries were able to infiltrate the movement and get to work. If you want to split the movement over your "principles" and the bourgeois saboteur wants to split the movement to kill the revolution, then who are you actually working with?

 No.4691

>>4689
House Emeel, you have 30 points docked for being cringe

 No.4692

>>4689
>if I claim victory I'm victorious even though nobody gives a shit
Can't wait for you to say this in front of the cops of your country, go tell Marxism-Leninism reigns supreme and see how they react you fucking cuck, now go back to work

 No.4693

>>4690
>>4685
>Words words words
It always boils down to the same thing, liberation is simply a euphemism for the Stalinist as much as it is for the liberal, hence why they must murder the proletarian that does not kneel

Stalinism is an anti-communist anti-proletarian movement that simply bandies the name of socialism while competing with the capital base in the West just as their German rivals had

 No.4694

>>4690
okay but splitters CAN be important, they may have good points and simply want to reform the revolution in a healthier side of itself

 No.4695

>>4679
No.

Your post is literal labour aristocracy blaming the rest of us 101:
>you are another wrecker who wants us to divide us
No, I'm not auch, it is actually you who is such. The world is alreasy divided between (mostly) producer nations and (mostly) unproducing nations, and SHOCK!, you are from the latter.

No, anon, I'm not trying to displease you or hurt you but merely state a fact: your (relative) well-being is due to the fact that the rest of us are mathematically and factually MORE EXPLOITED THAN YOU ARE.

>Anyway, you are another wrecker who wants us to divide us among nationalistic lines

No. I just want ppl to acknowledge how production, and more importantly, value-transfers work today.

You, as a prole living in, say, UK, are more prosperous than us, living in the periphery or the thirld world, because your rulers, the capitalists, share their fucking plunder of our surpluss value in your wages and in terms of your consumption, a decreased price for your commodities at a price for our fake sovereignity.

Newsflash, anon, you live in the Nazi part of the world.

Enjoy it while it lasts and start hating it when it falls.

 No.4696

>>4665
Its still bullshit. In actual reality these technologies arent stupefyingly hard issues. They are taking forever because the system that produces them is bad and has provably gotten worse. Capitalism is holding us back technologically. This is important to say. Its not "wow automation is just hard" but the social system making it artificially extremely slow. You are now carryibg water for capitalism by refusing to acknowledge its inefficiencies when you say that its just "reality we have to acknowledge". Its not "it took until 2021 to make a watermelon grabber" its "capitalism took 50 years longer to make a watermelon grabber when a competent system could do it in 2"

 No.4697

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>>4693
>It always boils down to the same thing, liberation is simply a euphemism for the Stalinist as much as it is for the liberal

 No.4698

>>4697
if they accepted catholicism Poland right now would be at 90

 No.4699

>>4697
Yes, state capital without welfare and massive unemployment is worse than state capital with welfare and full employment, that isn't at all shocking

 No.4700

>>4699
>i want a perfect society and i want it NOW

 No.4701

>>4490
Bro wtf are you talking about. Anarchism is totally irrelevant in current year, while Marxists are making gains everywhere. If you anarchists had EVER had a successful revolution, maybe things would be different, but you haven't. Grow the fuck up.

 No.4702

>>4701
rojava is pretty cool tbh so they got that

 No.4703

>Im a bit tired
If you are tired sleep

 No.4704

>>4696
You are confusing sets of issues here. To proclaim (rightfully) that technological advance is lagging because of capitalism is mundane, albeit true. Yet it remains the fact, that it lags behind our capacities. This was already addressed by me above, regarding the dialectics of variable and constant capital qua global capitalism…

 No.4705

>>4700
Fundamentally what separates you from a liberal?
Your rhetoric?

 No.4706

>>4696
>Its not "it took until 2021 to make a watermelon grabber" its "capitalism took 50 years longer to make a watermelon grabber when a competent system could do it in 2"
Dude, like why do you even speak, lmao?

It's been better explained here, ffs, you booklet:
>>4662

 No.4707

>>4659
>can kill us all but they won't be able to operate the machines within the exisiting system except if they become part of the proletariat
But thats the point. We can just make this threat and they can not do anything about it.

 No.4708

>>4695
Ok, we get, I'm a parasite on the third-world, and you are the only holy productive beings in the world economy, now do a revolution instead of proudly telling me you are cucked to the core for a change.
I can't wait for the fall of the first-world because it's fucking miserable here when you aren't part of the bourgeoisie despite what you believe, my body is ready for a change, now do your goddamn job and stop cucking yourself to imperialists. If needed I will protest in your favor because I want the industry to come back to my country and be automated instead of being outsourced to little obedient slaves like you paid for jackshit. You won't change anything by blaming foreign minimum wage workers, now start agitating like they did in West Africa recently.

 No.4709

>>4705
what we do? like fighting liberals? hello any more mutt in that brain of yours?

 No.4710

>>4709
What you do?
Posting online is real serious business?
I'll ask again, outside of rhetoric, considering you each trumpet about freedoms you do not actually believe are achievable, what's the difference?
Assume I am not remotely sympathetic towards you and you can't just preach to the choir

 No.4711

>>4706
>capitalisms' shittiness happens because its also monstrous
And?

 No.4712

>>4710
i do believe freedom is achievable just not at will, there's a need for certain material conditions

 No.4713

>>4692
>Can't wait for you to say this in front of the cops of your country, go tell Marxism-Leninism reigns supreme and see how they react you fucking cuck,
The basic theory of marxism-leninism is NOT getting caught by the police, you coward anarchist. Your natural anarkidish fear of police drips from your post. That's what separates us. You're the cuck.
>now go back to work
You're either bourgeois, or a lumpen piece of shit. Typical for any anarchist.

 No.4714

>>4699
>>4699
>state capital without welfare and massive unemployment is worse than state capital with welfare and full employmen
Niether of which was Actually Existing Socialism, you rat-brained, CIA-brained, Rick-and-Morty brained little shit.

You literally suck at the "facts" level, hence that pic you are replying to like an impotent little gibbon.
.
AES was what it was, whit its own internal and systemic problems, but you, as a ridiculous little twat of a representative of a meme ideology will never be able to top.

My people lived 4000x better off under Actually Existing Socialism than under current capitalism or your idiotic fantasy land anarcho-shit.

Reality was good for us.

Your proposal already fails on a theoretical level.

Why do you hate actually existing people with actual experiences?!

 No.4715

>>4712
That's exactly what liberals believe as well, "incrementalism" is their motto

 No.4716

>>4713
Sure sure, you are a tough guy, whatever, produce more surplus-value for porky, that's all you are good at, little slave.

 No.4717

>>4701
We make gut revoluton when tim komes

Befor that fuk u

 No.4718

>>4715
liberals dont necessarily believe in freedom at all, and if they do well it's surely not worker's freedom

 No.4719

>>4714
Yes, welfare is better than not having welfare

And?

Do you have an argument that doesn't rely on bourgeois sentimentality? You understand I feel nothing towards you, no sympathy, no empathy, nothing.

 No.4720

>>4716
I am not a slave. I am a revolutionary.

 No.4721

>>4720
You're neither, you're a poster

 No.4722

>>4721
A POSTER??!?
fellas is paper revolutionary?

 No.4723

>>4721
I am a revolutionary. I create revolutionary conditions

 No.4724

>this machine is stupid and causes back pain and breaks your fingers
>nun uh, you're just looking at the front, and not the back end where it has a baby mulched feeding the engine
What the fuck even is the "argument" here?

 No.4725

>>4722
>Fellas is a paper revolutionary?
There's an entire Leninist tendency that specifically thinks papers are, in fact, revolutionary

 No.4726


 No.4727

>>4694
They can be extremely important, the liberal splitters at the end of the USSR ended up being very important.. in ending the project.

>>4693
Look anon, if you're smugly satisfied with the USSR ending because it didn't match your "principals", when at the end it was giving people like you what they want, for their feels to be greater than the reals, to not be dedicated to the collective but rather let the individual have his liberty at the expense of others (liberalising) and the result of that is your fellow liberals. the bourgeoisie taking back control and they create a situation of terrible poverty, suicides, drug addiction, prostitution (including children), murder, etc and you aim to talk to me about principals, because of a fucking soup kitchen, then I'm sorry but you're exactly the kind that cannot be trusted in times of revolution.

 No.4728

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>>4723
that's some know off level of "plants are proletarian shit" i need to know more
if you can send link

 No.4729

>>4708
Many, many, many more paragraphs have been written by coping imperial country inhabitant supposed "communists" on why they are actually oppressed, yet only the third world kept revolting in any meaningful way for the last 60 yrs.

Yes, anon, as a Brit, you are truly oppressed.

 No.4730

>>4727
okay yeah splitters who still want socialsim that's the point
discourse but revolutionary discourse always!

 No.4731

>>4728
You are just projecting your infantile anarchism onto me. You know nothing about me.

 No.4732

>>4731
actually meant to reply to the other guy about paper and leninism lol sorry

 No.4733

>>4719
>bourgeois sentimentality?
>>4697

Picrel has no sentimentality, let alone a boirgeois one, since they didn't exist. AES was great for the second/third world. Imperialism is great for the labour aristocrat.

 No.4734

>>4730
Ah it's hard to know when it's sincere, because you get people from the 80s who were in the CPSU who now boast that ending communism was always their goal despite officially being a member of the communist party.

 No.4735

>>4729
>yet only the third world kept revolting in any meaningful way for the last 60 yrs.
We are still waiting for you to stop cooperating with imperialists by stopping to sell your labour power to them, so you can finally crash the capitalist system with no survivors instead of basking yourself in slave morality.
I'm not even a Brit btw.

 No.4736

>>4727
I feel nothing about the USSR collapsing other than that for all the bloodshed MLs justify it ultimately really was for nothing

Otherwise I feel nothing, you wasted your time typing all that. I dislike MLs themselves more than I do a state that collapsed before I was born, and that's mostly because MLs are insufferable.

 No.4737

>>1730118
Picrel is inherently premised on sentimentality
First off it demands an emotional attachment to a non-existent government
Secondly it demands support for a movement that failed

It centers on, as usual, the preexisting emotional attachments MLs have to states that died before they were born and Slavic nostalgia

 No.4738

>>4736
Edgy, after all the typing you've done that's hardly believable, but I can see why you'd want to wash your hands of your own opinions now.

 No.4739

TOTAL. MARXIST. VICTORY!!!!!!!

 No.4740

Thank you mods for moving this thread to this irrelevant board, now let this thread die you fucking faggots.

 No.4741

>>4738
Why would I have any attachment to a movement that has nothing to do with me? I don't get anything out of veneration dead people and dead governments, do you? I'd rather live in the present, but I get that's hard for someone whose entire movement was in the past to understand.
And everything I say is necessarily abbreviated because I'm at work and can only respond when I can get away with sending a message.

 No.4742

>>4736
Now thats a lie. We learned a lot. It was valuable even if it came apart.

 No.4743

>>4741
>I care so little I followed the thread to /dead/ and replied
Right.
>Why would I have any attachment to a movement that has nothing to do with me?
As an indivdualist who kneels to no one, what attachment could you have to any movement?
>People like me being a splitter made millions miserable? Oh I don't care, that's nothing to do with me and I don't see anything to learn from it.
It better be some pretty good soup to make up for being this shit as a leftist anon.

 No.4744

>>4740
why do jannies love to clean up shit that isnt even dirty for free?
i say we triple their pay maybe they become more productive

 No.4745

>>4744
>i say we triple their pay maybe they become more productive
$0 × 3 = $0
don't be so mean, they are doing it for free, imagine having to benevolently put up with retards like us everyday
if anything, it's ironically a good argument in favor of anarchism and mutual aid, it can work lmao

 No.4746

>markus spams 'beria with 14f
>jannies move it to /dead/
>markus spams /dead/ with 14f

 No.4747

technically most active post in /dead/ history?

LONG LIVE ANARCHY

 No.4748

>>4566
>Does daddy Stalin kill the landlords who ask me and my roommates to pay more than a thousand bucks to have a roof over my head, in a crumbling appartment where the water balloon is barely functioning anymore?
He actually did do that for a lot of people and it was pretty cool

 No.4749

>>4748
Alright, now, can I sleep in an Albanian bunker because I'm homeless since yesterday and all this shit is abandonned?
Yes, if I enjoy getting bitten by snakes.
It's all small ass shit that is barely enough to fit two soldiers together anyway, I would rather pay a rent in exchange of my labour power.
And Stalin still is dead and won't kill the fucking landlords, so I virtually spit on his grave. U mad???

 No.4750

>>4491
Fpbp

 No.4786


 No.4812

You guys know that your posts are visible outside /dead/ now, right?
>LONG LIVE ANARCHY

 No.4813

>>4490
lol is this image supposed to present anarchists as not also retarded


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