How to not get demoralized and tired as an Anarchist when you constantly have to deal with Marxists? I have this horrible feeling whenever I look at Neo-Nazi imageboards and online spaces and see actual useful (for them of course) and constructive discussion based on what should be done to actually further their movement. Compared to, for example, leftypol where Anarchists are constantly weighed down by Marxists seemingly obsessive desire to pull down the Socialist movement at every opportunity, to alienate it from the general public and argue about useless semantics and "dialectics" instead of anything that actually matters IRL. A movement isnt attractive if you have to constantly argue the validity of your given sect of the "movement" at all times from your supposed comrades.
"A house divided cannot do shit" or whatever Lincoln said, it is just better for us to just separate, for both parties. I would create an Anarchist-only imageboard if it werent for me being retarded when it comes to technology.
213 posts and 23 image replies omitted.>>4696You are confusing sets of issues here. To proclaim (rightfully) that technological advance is lagging because of capitalism is mundane, albeit true. Yet it remains the fact, that it lags behind our capacities. This was already addressed by me above, regarding the dialectics of variable and constant capital
qua global capitalism…
>>4700Fundamentally what separates you from a liberal?
Your rhetoric?
>>4696>Its not "it took until 2021 to make a watermelon grabber" its "capitalism took 50 years longer to make a watermelon grabber when a competent system could do it in 2"Dude, like why do you even speak, lmao?
It's been better explained here, ffs, you booklet:
>>4662 >>4695Ok, we get, I'm a parasite on the third-world, and you are the only holy productive beings in the world economy, now do a revolution instead of proudly telling me you are cucked to the core for a change.
I can't wait for the fall of the first-world because it's fucking miserable here when you aren't part of the bourgeoisie despite what you believe, my body is ready for a change, now do your goddamn job and stop cucking yourself to imperialists. If needed I will protest in your favor because I want the industry to come back to my country and be automated instead of being outsourced to little obedient slaves like you paid for jackshit. You won't change anything by blaming foreign minimum wage workers, now start agitating like they did in West Africa recently.
>>4709What you do?
Posting online is real serious business?
I'll ask again, outside of rhetoric, considering you each trumpet about freedoms you do not actually believe are achievable, what's the difference?
Assume I am not remotely sympathetic towards you and you can't just preach to the choir
>>4692>Can't wait for you to say this in front of the cops of your country, go tell Marxism-Leninism reigns supreme and see how they react you fucking cuck, The basic theory of marxism-leninism is NOT getting caught by the police, you coward anarchist. Your natural anarkidish fear of police drips from your post. That's what separates us. You're the cuck.
>now go back to workYou're either bourgeois, or a lumpen piece of shit. Typical for any anarchist.
>>4699>>4699>state capital without welfare and massive unemployment is worse than state capital with welfare and full employmenNiether of which was Actually Existing Socialism, you rat-brained, CIA-brained, Rick-and-Morty brained little shit.
You literally suck at the "facts" level, hence that pic you are replying to like an impotent little gibbon.
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AES was what it was, whit its own internal and systemic problems, but you, as a ridiculous little twat of a representative of a meme ideology will never be able to top.
My people lived 4000x better off under Actually Existing Socialism than under current capitalism or your idiotic fantasy land anarcho-shit.Reality was good for us.
Your proposal already fails on a theoretical level.
Why do you hate actually existing people with actual experiences?!
>>4701We make gut revoluton when tim komes
Befor that fuk u
>>4714Yes, welfare is better than not having welfare
And?
Do you have an argument that doesn't rely on bourgeois sentimentality? You understand I feel
nothing towards you, no sympathy, no empathy, nothing.
>>4721A POSTER??!?
fellas is paper revolutionary?
>>4694They can be extremely important, the liberal splitters at the end of the USSR ended up being very important.. in ending the project.
>>4693Look anon, if you're smugly satisfied with the USSR ending because it didn't match your "principals", when at the end it was giving people like you what they want, for their feels to be greater than the reals, to not be dedicated to the collective but rather let the individual have his liberty at the expense of others (liberalising) and the result of that is your fellow liberals. the bourgeoisie taking back control and they create a situation of terrible poverty, suicides, drug addiction, prostitution (including children), murder, etc and you aim to talk to me about principals, because of a fucking soup kitchen, then I'm sorry but you're exactly the kind that cannot be trusted in times of revolution.
>>4723that's some know off level of "plants are proletarian shit" i need to know more
if you can send link
>>4708Many, many, many more paragraphs have been written by coping imperial country inhabitant supposed "communists" on why they are actually oppressed, yet only the third world kept revolting in any meaningful way for the last 60 yrs.
Yes, anon, as a Brit, you are truly oppressed.
>>4727okay yeah splitters who still want socialsim that's the point
discourse but revolutionary discourse always!
>>4729>yet only the third world kept revolting in any meaningful way for the last 60 yrs.We are still waiting for you to stop cooperating with imperialists by stopping to sell your labour power to them, so you can finally crash the capitalist system with no survivors instead of basking yourself in slave morality.
I'm not even a Brit btw.
>>4727I feel nothing about the USSR collapsing other than that for all the bloodshed MLs justify it ultimately really was for nothing
Otherwise I feel nothing, you wasted your time typing all that. I dislike MLs themselves more than I do a state that collapsed before I was born, and that's mostly because MLs are insufferable.
>>4738Why would I have any attachment to a movement that has nothing to do with me? I don't get anything out of veneration dead people and dead governments, do you? I'd rather live in the present, but I get that's hard for someone whose entire movement was in the past to understand.
And everything I say is necessarily abbreviated because I'm at work and can only respond when I can get away with sending a message.
>>4741>I care so little I followed the thread to /dead/ and repliedRight.
>Why would I have any attachment to a movement that has nothing to do with me? As an indivdualist who kneels to no one, what attachment could you have to any movement?
>People like me being a splitter made millions miserable? Oh I don't care, that's nothing to do with me and I don't see anything to learn from it.It better be some pretty good soup to make up for being this shit as a leftist anon.
>>4740why do jannies love to clean up shit that isnt even dirty for free?
i say we triple their pay maybe they become more productive
>>4744>i say we triple their pay maybe they become more productive$0 × 3 = $0
don't be so mean, they are doing it for free, imagine having to benevolently put up with retards like us everyday
if anything, it's ironically a good argument in favor of anarchism and mutual aid, it can work lmao
>>4748Alright, now, can I sleep in an Albanian bunker because I'm homeless since yesterday and all this shit is abandonned?
Yes, if I enjoy getting bitten by snakes.
It's all small ass shit that is barely enough to fit two soldiers together anyway, I would rather pay a rent in exchange of my labour power.
And Stalin still is dead and won't kill the fucking landlords, so I virtually spit on his grave. U mad???
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