<span class="quote">>>863I like the terrifying uncut penis</span>
<span class="quote">>>863>>864You draw human bodies far better than i do. Not bad anon.</span>
<span class="quote">>>871Art isn't super hard. I'm personally best when i'm tracing things and warping it into a different image, because my mind's eye doesn't translate mental images into art very well. My pictures were either traced from some source or were methodically drawn with rulers or symmetrical, rather than just being free-handed or anything. You should try that, because it usually looks really good in the end, and it's good for beginners. I can't draw things without a crutch or cool tools, and i can't add color well which is why my best stuff is sketches, and that's the reason i gave up on art.</span>
<span class="quote">>>871>In seriousness though, I would like to draw but I can't make the effort to do so and reduce the perfect ideas in my mind to the utter failure of my ability to realise them with my hands.That's how you get good at it. That's how learning works. If you can't see the flaws with what you're drawing you get stuck drawing like Chris Chan or Tim Buckley forever. You're supposed to be able to find flaws with what you draw, so that the next drawing you can focus on that aspect and do better next time. It's a slow process. You can't really take shortcuts with it.Each time you draw something find something, usually something that really sticks out, and try to do better with that next time. Look up other people's techniques or advice if you have to. If you get stuck on a certain thing take a break from that for a while and go back with fresher eyes. Review your progress on improving certain things to see how you've improved and how you haven't. And of course show other people, because they'll notice flaws you don't.</span>
<span class="quote">>>881Thank you gomrad.</span>
<span class="quote">>>881Every time I see 'loomis' I just think of Harvester</span>
<span class="quote">>>881Recently I've seen a backlash against recommending Loomis to beginners. I reckon at least half of it is contrarianism, but I also find that manikin methods need a strong backing in fast/intuitive perspective, or else progress will be slow. I don't mean VP's and grids so much as the general behaviour of 3D solids as they rotate.The free tutorials on Drawabox.com are largely dedicated to that.</span>
For the human figure Glenn Vilppu has helped me improved a lot. He focuses particularly hard on gesture.Good luck drawing comrades.<a href="https://mega.nz/#F!rYhFlIQL!OX7slmxiS3Vn6JGsY9mUBw
" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://mega.nz/#F!rYhFlIQL!OX7slmxiS3Vn6JGsY9mUBw</a>
<span class="quote">>>871if you want to easily start doodling, start with flowers2D, most simple formsflowers have curves, long lines, details you can addno need to read books on how to draw, you can just do itand remember, the rubber is your friend</span>
<a onclick="highlightReply('871', event);" href="/hobby/res/856.html#871">>>871</a><br/><a onclick="highlightReply('872', event);" href="/hobby/res/856.html#872">>>872</a><br/>Learn perspective and construction before you try to invent things from imagination. Check out draw a box
<a onclick="highlightReply('5245', event);" href="/hobby/res/856.html#5245">>>5245</a><br/>Also use reference but dont trace
<a onclick="highlightReply('5245', event);" href="/hobby/res/856.html#5245">>>5245</a><br/><a onclick="highlightReply('5246', event);" href="/hobby/res/856.html#5246">>>5246</a><br/>Why the fuck did you bump this thread when <br/>A) its been dead for over a year<br/>B) there is a current and active drawing thread. <br/>Do a fucking flip, faggot.
<a onclick="highlightReply('5249', event);" href="/hobby/res/856.html#5249">>>5249</a><br/>sorry i am the big dumb.
<a onclick="highlightReply('18686', event);" href="/hobby/res/18679.html#18686">>>18686</a><br/>based
<a onclick="highlightReply('18686', event);" href="/hobby/res/18679.html#18686">>>18686</a><br/>Is that an actual monkey with makeup or is it CG/AI merge? What a bizarre gif
Today I realized that I suck ass at several things but mainly animating and pixel art. Also every time I don't immediately draw exactly what is in my mind I get frustrated and lose patience as I realize I'm not as good as I thought. I hate this.<br/><br/><a onclick="highlightReply('18686', event);" href="/hobby/res/18679.html#18686">>>18686</a><br/>Isn't that just a meme book?
<a onclick="highlightReply('18856', event);" href="/hobby/res/18679.html#18856">>>18856</a><br/>I think the whole left brain/ right brain thing is pseudoscience but the process of unlearning symbol drawing is valuable. Besides, I keep on seeing it recommended and I need to start somewhere.
<a onclick="highlightReply('18858', event);" href="/hobby/res/18679.html#18858">>>18858</a><br/><span class="quote">>symbol drawing</span><br/>What if I've already unlearned it? Would the book be of any use to me?
<a onclick="highlightReply('18861', event);" href="/hobby/res/18679.html#18861">>>18861</a><br/>Nah seems like it's a book geared towards beginners
<a onclick="highlightReply('18880', event);" href="/hobby/res/18679.html#18880">>>18880</a><br/>nice self portaits
<a onclick="highlightReply('18880', event);" href="/hobby/res/18679.html#18880">>>18880</a><br/>Thanks a lot HardKoba, I also found this video and I think I finally get these steps as well. It sounds so simple to follow, but I've always preferred to draw what I want first, which is why I felt bad about drawing most of the time.<br/><br/>Also really cool faces, top left looks familiar.
Would love to draw some leftypol OC but publicly associating yourself with politics is very, very stupid.
<a onclick="highlightReply('18961', event);" href="/hobby/res/18679.html#18961">>>18961</a><br/>why not privately associate yourself?
<a onclick="highlightReply('18961', event);" href="/hobby/res/18679.html#18961">>>18961</a><br/>I know lol<br/>That's why the stuff I can show here is very, very limited<br/><a onclick="highlightReply('18962', event);" href="/hobby/res/18679.html#18962">>>18962</a><br/>Maybe if you only ever draw for a radical leftist politics site you won't have to worry about it, but I already have a politically neutral online presence since before I came to leftypol and that's probably anon's case as well
<a onclick="highlightReply('18962', event);" href="/hobby/res/18679.html#18962">>>18962</a><br/>Also, if you try to have a double identity, it's likely that people will recognize your style if someone who is sufficiently obsessed with you for any reason is able to connect the dots. And we know there are plenty of psychos out there more than ever. Plus associating yourself with leftism is legitimately dangerous in some countries.
I wonder if there are any art books from socialist countries in general. Never seen one.
Bad news. Apparently my drunkard mom and stepdad stole military decorations of my ancestors for WW2 (picrelated one of them) and sold them behind my back for pennies. The whole set was worth at the very least $1500 but it seems those retards sold them for pennies instead. The medals alone were worth $450 but they sold the medals for $120…
I spent the last month barely touching the pen due to that. It's a very big loss to me, when my first love told me to wait for her and later cucked me, I didn't draw for a year and a half, doing nothing but sitting in my room and playing games to distract myself from pain. When my second girl left me, I stopped drawing for 3 months. Those awards were more important than any human to me, more important than anything else but I recover quicker. It's true that with time the pain becomes duller and you grow accustomed to life being a dissappointing pile of steaming shit. When my family hit the new low in 2014, mother lost job and we got into debts due to her stupidity and her boyfriend scamming her, I asked God for a sign that not all is lost, that it's not that bad. A month later I discovered those awards and the story behind them and they brought me joy whenever I thought of them. It's was extremely shameful for me to ask any supernatural forces at my low point because I am agnostic and not supernatural, yet I always remembered how I found them in one of the hardest moments of my life when I contemplated suicide a lot. I can't believe they are gone and I dream of beating my parents. Remember the stepdad's mother to which I brought gifts for the money I earned from commissions? When I told her that her son stole and sold valuable family relics worth $1500, she faked that she cared. After that she pretended that she is not at home and refused to open the door or even talk to me, she tried to hide at home and make me think nobody is there. When I refused to go home, she threatened to call the police. I feel empty now. I have more commissinos than I can handle but I barely have any will to draw. I see those awards in my dreams, whenever I wake up I remember that I lost them.
My grandmother was afraid my mom will sell them. I didn't believe that my mom would do this, and here I am now, a year didn't pass since grandma's death and my mother managed to steal them out of my room and sell them. I will have to break someone's teath and fingers. I regret that I let my mother and her useless husband move in my grandmother's apartments. My stepdad brought to the household less than $500 for the past 8 months, and my mother spent the last 7 years being unemployed. I was feeding them for 3 months out of my salary and I forgave them when they stole my collection of coins and sold it. This is how they repaid my generosity.
I will try to sell my apartments and move out of this shitty country. Stepdad's brother is a useless unemployed 49yo drunkard leeching off his 72yo mom and stealing money from her to buy himself booze. He is still living with his mom. I once said that I don't have Ukrainian and Russian friends because I don't like "our people". The faggot asked me why. Those subhumans just keep dissappointing me.
My neighbour borrowed 25$ for a week, then he "forgot" that he borrowed them at all and I had to incite scandals with him as well just to get my shit back. Everyone is trying to fuck me over. The government is corrupt, the neighbours are trying to steal from you and now I have to deal with rats in my house, the same rats I have been feeding myself despite being poor as hell, I spent money on them and what did I get? My parents sold family relics and stepdad's mom threatened me after all the gifts I bought her from my salary. Her own children and grandchild bought her less than I did but I guess blood means a lot more than your actions. It's okay to steal if the thief is your son, in the end she chose to ignore me completely. Several weeks passed since the event, I am not burning with hatred but I understood why vengeance is better served cold. I will redirect whatever income and strength I have at making those people's lives worse, if need be I will hire goons to break them. I desperately wanted to help the poor despite being one, but as the time went by I started hating the poor more and more. Now I see that many of the poor are simply too retarded and have no foresight, that's why they are poor. My parents didn't even have enough brains to sell the medals for half of their real price, fuck.
Just keep drawing with refs til you get better.
I'm sorry to hear my friend, did you confront the mom and stepdad over the medals? Not that they would be sympathetic but it would probably firm your resolve to move out, no? Also beating the shit out of anyone would feel good but probably wouldn't be a good idea - imagine having all your life's problems plus a criminal record or even jail time, not to mention the social repercussions of beating your parents. You'd just be punching into a bucket of shit, no need to get yourself dirty. As I said (and as you probably already know) aiming to put some distance between you and them might be the best course of action. Then you would have more independence to help them out or let them rot.
I did. It's a long story, way lnoger than what I wrote. Mother admitted her guilt but stepdad denies everything, I threatened to make him a cripple and I hate empty threats. Some people understand only violence, some people are born to be ruled, they are natural born slaves. I gave my parents full freedom and they poisoned their own lives and mine as well. My stepdad liked to brag how he put into hospital a dude that scammed his neighbours, so I will give him the taste of his own medicine. >a criminal record
It's easy to rob or hurt or kill somebody and get out of the country before this person even goes to the police. I can get out of Ukraine within 2 days, quick enough to avoid getting caught. I don't need to hurt them immediately, nice vengeance requires planning and time. People get killed for less than $1500, people get killed for lesser betrayals and for lesser insults, especially in 3rd world pisspoor countries like Ukraine, which is poorer than Turkey, Iran, China or Morocco. A couple of broken teeth is a lottery ticket in my view. If they stole $1500 from mafioso, they would be dead already. I had weeks to plan my vengeance, I can't love any woman even half as strongly as I loved the first one, and I don't experience strong attachment to anything but to the things I collect and the awards I inherited. Taking those things from me is worse than rape or stealing all my money and the apartment, they chose to spit in my face and take whatever dignity and self-esteem I had. I didn't draw because of some love for art, I was drawing to earn money. What for do I need money now if I love no one and I have nothing to cherish? There's only bitter taste of betrayal and hate. >the social repercussions of beating your parents
I am beyond those things. I told my mother I will sell her out if she ever commits a crime when I was less than 10. Punishment is only just in my view, but she will get none because legally there's no paper proving that those awards belonged exclusively to me and no proof that she stole them. There is no one to hurt them but me and I have nothing else valuable left. I don't need money or women but I needed those decorations. And I was denied even them, denied by the very people I fed and helped. It's not matter of money now, nothing can quench this thirst.
do what you must. I'm not going to moralize at you other than to tell you that it will probably be a waste of time, money and energy what would otherwise be better spent moving away and building a life that has other sources of meaning other than family heirlooms
i try not to do politics but my best performing drawing in terms of metrics was a radlib take piece and i every day i am tempted to repeat it
Chill bruh. You're a cool and talented guy. Just let it go. I've been there, being scorned in the past, and contemplating taking physical revenge on people, imagining how I could get away with it. You're right that some people will always try to take advantage wherever they can, but recognize your own mistakes that led you to being taken advantage of. Get out of that "cosmic justice" mindset, it's not going to do anything for you, it won't do anything for them, it's pointless. The only solution is to let them stop playing a role in your life and in your mind.
She is a big girl.
I was a bit busy starving. My mom is a lying drunkard, I had no internet for 25 days, no food for 14 and soon I may lose an apartment because the drunkards pawned it half a year ago. The retards tried to open bar, loaned money and used the only apartment we have as collateral. Everything was done behind my back. I spent 3 weeks without Internet and 2 weeks starving because my mother lied about paying for Internet, lied about bringing money for birthday and I couldn't ask the money for artwork because I had no Internet. The morning after my birthday a loan shark entered apartment while I was sleeping.
6 hours before the sharks entered my apartment I sketched Umberto D, an excellent 70 years old Italian movie depicting an elderly man and his dog in poverty. He loses his only home. Didn't expect it to be prophetic.
Quite a thick girl. >>58
I was wondering about your post until I got to the end. Interesting story, did you live in Italy? What did the Loan Shark do?
I am Ukrainian, people who leave Ukraine and come back later are either insane or work picking up fruits in Poland. I saw this movie because I consume lots of media and survive off my earnings as an artist.
The loan shark led me to his boss. They ended up loving me and complimented my intelligence non-stop, I befriended the bodyguard shark (an ex-convict with no finger on his left hand) and his gf who called me future millionaire and compared to Steve Jobs 5 minutes after I started talking to her. I forged the bodyguard shark's documents, he wanted to hide that doctor found marijuana in his piss. All in all a nice time.
Повезло братан, молодец.
Im doing drawings on /get/, cus hentai on booru piss people off here.
reposting here just cus.
>>62> hentai on booru
some random was pissed at me because in the last thread I made a hentai and posted it here.
Who??? Mind linking the posts, there's been some weirdo spamming threads and attacking posters at random.
Deepens on what it was since hentai on booru
isn't banned but a certain type is.
That guy's problem was that the character you drew is like 12 years old. So it wasn't hentai, it was loli (which is in fact banned on all boorus created by users on booru.org)
Glad you didn't kill your parents yet Ukrainian anon lol.
>The loan shark led me to his boss. They ended up loving me and complimented my intelligence non-stop, I befriended the bodyguard shark (an ex-convict with no finger on his left hand) and his gf who called me future millionaire and compared to Steve Jobs 5 minutes after I started talking to her. I forged the bodyguard shark's documents, he wanted to hide that doctor found marijuana in his piss. All in all a nice time.
Are you starving for attention? Do you know what it means to "gas someone up?" People like that are nice to you because they want something from you. Stop getting played anon. Stop trusting untrustworthy people.
>I spent 3 weeks without Internet and 2 weeks starving because my mother lied about paying for Internet, lied about bringing money for birthday and I couldn't ask the money for artwork because I had no Internet.
What about internet cafes? What about libraries? Isn't there some other way for you to access the internet there? Untwine yourself from these people anon. Get a revenue stream. Go rent your own place or get out the country. Never talk to these people again.
>>69>Are you starving for attention?
Yes. If you are not a woman, not handsome and weren't rised in the Western hugbox, compliments are rare and the only types of compliments I get are the ones acknowledging intelligence. >People like that are nice to you because they want something from you
Of course they do, they need my compliance to sell the apartment. I wanted to forget for a brief moment what mom did and go to jurist together with her to avoid paying the debt but the morning I had this idea the loanshark boss let me listen his last audiotaped convo with mom. My mother promised me to give all the money we get minus debt after sale of apartment. Behind my back I heard how she asked the boss not to tell me the real value of the apartment + let her have "her" share. The boss offered to give me the rest of money and leave nothing to mom, he hates her because she was avoiding paying debt before and lied regularly. How the fuck am I supposed to dig myself out of this hole when the loansharks AND parents work against me? I just need some money from the apartment and then I leave the country. I can't even leave or sell shit because I need papers proving I am not draft dodger, we have forced coscription and the Russian war destroyed hopes for volunteer army.>What about internet cafes? What about libraries?
I don't have a phone, no cash and my laptop's energy battery is dead, thus it's impossible to use it without cable. The only way to contact friends and clients is the home stuck laptop.
блять где ты на Укрвине живёшь?
/roulette/ currently has a /draw/ theme this october (inktober) so pls use it to your content
how do you guys find the motivation to keep drawing? i keep dropping it every now and then…
Unless you're relying on art to live, that's normal.
Is that the /edu/ mascot?!
Look at the filename dumbass, those are Tania (/ref/) and Rodina (/GET/)
uyghur I have never heard of tania and I recognized Rodina from the start, you salty cunt.
>>83>I have never heard of Tania
wtf this is awesome
your animation's getting better too
gay, the only thing i can good say she has a long cock which is based
Based and nice male ass
Nice haul! Congrats! And I like the fluffy chick.
love the aesthetic, third pic is just beautiful
I'm glad this board got made, even as esoteric as it'll inevitably be. The OC thread on /leftypol/ also ought to go in this board.
damn, one of the upsides of living in a shithole i gues.
I would need at least 4-5 of those kinds of commission prices to be able to afford rent and food.
>>51>Just keep drawing with refs til you get better.
Wow I just saw this response. I'm assuming it was for >>50
I am trying to improve my hatching and understanding of light values while still focusing on animated commission>>1452
That upside is capitalized on by a tiny minority of all workers and even then, most freelancers earn little and their purchasing power ain't great when you compare them to 1st worlders. You talk about greater costs of living but the prices/wages ratio aka purchasing power is way greater in developed countries. Also, 720 x 4 = $2880, that's big money no matter the country, even in Switzerland average wage is about $5000 a month. I seriously doubt you need that much for survival. Your apartment must be some good shit in well off neighborhood, mine is a mice, spider, centipede and cockroach infested nightmare with holes in the floor and with drunkard neighbour lying in front of my door. I am sure a thing like that won't cost several thousand dollars a month, probably with the exception of Singapore. It's just that in 1st world you have completely different standards for basic food and housing.
Is that the mc from final fantasy tactics?
No. But the mp4 is GiTS fanart
really nice shading on the hair
yo nice, though is that dog doing ninjutsu?
Channeling energy for that double blowjob
fuck, that's beautifull
I am doing fine. There's a guy on whose commission I have been working on, he orderer a 11 seconds long hand drawn animation, 11 coloured frames or 132 frames for $792. I am nearly done with the gif but I am not very satisfied with result, so I won't post it. Here's some other stuff I did, I am gonna draw sexy girls like 1st one to get more followers, more customers and more commissions. I think my rendering improved and I can draw very cute faces. >>1747
Fixed her hair. It was a free portrait of a Lebanese girl from Insta, I liked her look and asked her for higher res picture to draw her. She gave it to me, she was happy with the portrait and made it her avatar.
If I had this much money to blow on art…there would be Grace pics everywhere
>t. hasn't heard about NEON GREEN DICKhttps://i.imgur.com/9cGmmFC.jpg
(explicit but censored)
Furry pays $1325 USD in an action (starting price $75) to have two characters placed in a pre-defined pose.
Their character is bright yellow with black and bright pink highlights and has a huge green radioactive symbol on the chest and a neon green dick.
Ukrainian anon why don't you have an artstation? You should have an instagram as well. who's that in your profile pic
I was commissioned 4 tentacle X giga-milk girl pics $35 each, or $140 in total + 1 picture of intersex/gay furries having sex for $45. Also, there was a commission of Futaba in diapers worth $53. In total I earned $1000 during the past two months. Very nice result for a country where average monthly wage is around $350 after taxes. No one in my family took me seriously when I was telling those retards about freelance art being a legit career giving way more opportunities than whatever dead end jobs a 3rd world shithole like Ukraine can provide me with. >>1842
I have ArtStation, Instagram, DA, Pixiv, Hentai-Foundry and even FurAffinity profile. Almost everywhere I go by the same nickname, Kapchynskyi, or Slavoslav on HF.>who's that in your profile pic
My 3rd Turkish ex gf. I asked her to use her picture because it helps to attract followers. After the first love of my life cucked me, I developed a trauma and the women I am attracted to look like the 1st girl I loved, brown and masculine with short hair. Think of Sophia Boutella. The girl in the avatar is not the 1st one but she is looking very similar to her. I would draw girls like that 24/7 if I weren't forced to draw porn to survive.
>>1862>>1862>I have ArtStation, Instagram, DA, Pixiv, Hentai-Foundry and even FurAffinity profile. Almost everywhere I go by the same nickname, Kapchynskyi, or Slavoslav on HF.
You should cross link your Insta, ArtStation, and Twitter in the bios.>>1862>I asked her to use her picture because it helps to attract followers.
Thirst trapping them. Smart anon.>After the first love of my life cucked me, I developed a trauma and the women I am attracted to look like the 1st girl I loved, brown and masculine with short hair. Think of Sophia Boutella. The girl in the avatar is not the 1st one but she is looking very similar to her. I would draw girls like that 24/7 if I weren't forced to draw porn to survive.
I wouldn't call her masculine looking, a little boyish. Patrician tastes anon. That's my type too. Well whatever fucked up shit in your life at least you have no problem getting cute GFs.
I like your art
How did you get customers? I draw 4 free right now but maybe I want to turn it into a side hustle.
Those tiddies look voluminous.
v nice :DD
This meme is perfect. Holy shit.>>1979
Is this you as well?
I have been following your story for a while and I am glad things are looking up if so.
I think a lot of us are rooiting for you anon. Good luck with getting out of that shithole and a more comfortable existance.
Yes, it's me. Thanks.
You have good artistic ability, really good at drawing
How long would it take a /beg/inner to draw commission level digital art and make some side money? What's the most lucrative way to make money, porn/hentai?
It will take a year and that's the best case, I think it makes more sense to aim for making 100 a month after 2 years of every day practice. Don't hope to get any good just after year, 99% fail there. In theory even beginners can draw for money, it's just that you have to work for 5$ per drawing.>What's the most lucrative way to make money, porn/hentai?
Furry porn. Then humanoid porn. It's IMPOSSIBLE to earn money in SFW without having thousands on followers. I am friends with several obscure SFW artists whose skill dwarfs mine >>1979
and they don't get commissions.
I see, what should you use to maintain anonymity while you facilitate transactions? Do people use Paypal? I don't want to reveal my name for drawing furry scat shit.
PayPal is basically the only thing that 90% of customers use. If you draw some illegal shit like lolicon, customers may be afraid for their own safety and use crypto or fake PayPal accounts. PayPal doesn't work in Ukraine and at first I tried to get my customers use SWIFT transfers but I only lost clients this way, Don't make them put any effort for your ass, a customer is more
likely to find other artist than set up crypto wallet or use any other paying system he didn't use before.
How did you get around to using PayPal in your cunt? It's asking for my real name and shit.
Also, regarding dangers of being cancelled, it's hard to get under fire unless you try to be provocative. I drew lots of forbidden stuff and handle is my real surname, nothing happen to me so far. I know lots of greats that did some dirty stuff and nothing happened to them either. Miura was most likely a pedophile, he didn't have a girlfriend, he spent years playing and watching Idol Master and he defended lolicon hentai in public.
Frank Frazzetta drew porn with a negro raping a white woman.
Ilya Kuvshinov aka Kronprinz was very uncreative with some of his works, picrelated. /ic/ tried to cancel him for years. He went on to become a lead character designer for Ghost in the Shell the Netflix adaptation and self-insert in the series as the main villain in the first episodes. The show was critically panned but Netflix announced 2nd season anyway. /ic/ tried to cancel him for years and they failed miserably. No one cares about this shit and no one will care about you.
Is regular human anime styled hentai profitable?
I have a circle of foreign friends and they receive money for me. This is the only way for 3rd freelancers worlders to receive PayPal money from individuals. We are severely limited with other things as well. For example, IKEA simply doesn't exist in Ukraine.
That's cool you have people you know you can trust with your money, sadly that's not possible for everyone I guess.>>2033
As a side question, why is everyone on /ic/ either a permabeg or a crab, nobody serious posts there, maybe people just leave once they get good.
All porn is profitable but the more depraved you are, the better. And no one, no one
' can beat the furry porn income. You better draw what you enjoy though because if you try to cash in, you might burn out. I tried to draw furry porn initially and it just destroyed my soul, I do not enjoy it. I do not enjoy humanoid porn either but this stuff is still miles ahead of NSFW furries. >>2036
There are serious people but they rarely reveal themselves. I have very professional looking acquaintances from /ic/, unfortunately it's hard to establish true friendship with people from there, I tried hard and I failed to befriend people around my skill level or higher. Maybe I would have more success if I had a hole between my legs.
Among the prominent /ic/ artists that post regularly there are Ortamaw and Pantsuripper. Not gonna lie, I am jealous as hell of Pantsu, he got 60 000 followers on Twitter while I am still stuck at 320 despite all the art gains I made. I earn more $ off commissions each month than I have total followers currently, I am seriously considering just finding some semi-prominent artists and pay them to retweet my ass. My last "Nice dick bro" gif received 2000 likes on Reddit but I got only 4 retweets and 15 damn followers on Twitter, this shit is driving me insane.
Jeez, where the fuck do these furries get all that money from? So it's mostly due to supply and demand, i.e. less artists and more demand for furshit so they pay you more?
my theory is that these "hobbies" tend to attract autists and autists tend to work on well-paying stemlord jobs
Any tips on growing your social media? Twitter is fucking cancer but I think you can get a lot of normies to fetch you commissions right?
Some tips I heard:
1. Connections with famous artists - they share your art.
2. Posting frequently.maybe someday i'll escape /beg/ hell and we will be hentai e-frens lol
I don't think it's simply due to lack of artists, the rich furries meme is well known and there's a shit ton of artists drawing this stuff. There's just one big gold rush and unlimited supply of new artists trying to profit off the trend, yet it doesn't push furry prices down by much. I think there's something with mentality of furries, they commission stuff way more often than the usual humanoid customers + their standards are low. I struggle to gain people on Hentai Foundry but every time I posted something on FurAffinity I gained a new follower>>2040
I am still small and the stuff I say may end up like with blind leading the blind. I do not recommend to count on connections to famous artists, probably a quarter of all my followers on Twitter are artists. Most of them are small, but there's 4 guys with more than 20 000 followers each one + a dozen of artists in range between 1000-19 999 followers. This stuff didn't help me much. When you are a noname, it doesn't make much sense for famous artists to promote you unless you are extremely close. You are their competition + you can't offer anything back because you don't have audience yourself. At least I have some money to offer, so I will try to bribe several artists and see how this stuff works out.
In the long run, I believe that bribing is 100% way more beneficial that advertising naturally. If my parents weren't total fuck ups, I would use their wealth to bribe myself into reaching 10 000 followers. Bribes + posting frequently is the way to go, you will make up the losses via Patreon later. Long term, it absolutely makes sense. Let's say, you pay "only" $30 per retweet from somebody with 10 000 followers. For $30 (a day/two days of commissioned work for me) you will get way more exposure than you could get by simply publishing your works into the void. I fucking wish I had a thousand of dollars to spare on this stuff. right now I do have a thousand $ in reserve, which is triple the monthly Ukrainian wage, but I need those money for new laptop + investments in stocks (I am no gambler, I have help from my British friend with a degree in finance and I have been successfully testing myself playing Investopedia stocks simulator where I managed to earn the double of S&P500 so far)
Well I assumed mutual promotion would always be good, even if you recognize an artist is underrated and will blow up someday. Though even by principle, wouldn't it make sense to not share any trade secrets since every person is your "competition" by that logic? (you on an art forum)
From what I bothered with stock gambling back then I realized you actually need a decent amount of capital to make good returns otherwise it doesn't really account for much, unless you luck out on some crypto windfalls. Good luck to you though.
I have an inherent advantage thanks to my skill, so I can afford giving some tips, though not absolutely everything I know. To be my direct competition you need to draw the same things I draw + do this at comparable skill level. Plus cooperation is more useful than competition, because, say, if all the artists from /ic/ teamed up against all the other artists on Twitter, they would achieve more because the number of artists from /ic/ is way smaller than the total number of Twitter artists, thus allowing to capture "the pond" by pushing the native fish out and still have enough audience to feed off, it makes sense financially to create cliques and push the others out, Jews are infamous for their nepotism and sticking to their people, now look how much Jews achieved with that. You gain more by advancing those who will pay you back later (the best bang for the buck is when you advance artists with good skill but no audience). But artists are incapable of thinking long term, they try to undercut each other even when cooperation benefits them. For example, lots of top artists with 100 000 followers charge only 200-70$ per artwork because they are incapable of understanding the rules of supply and demand, that their name became a luxury brand and they can charge premium for it, like Apple. By charging little they harm their own income and force competing artists to charge less, too. But as a rule of thumb artists are not the sharpest tools in the shed, so this kind of self-harming practice is widespread. >decent amount of capital
I will have around $20000 by the end of the year, in the worst case I will get 10% annual return from SP500, which means I can count on $2000 a year. In the best case, I can pick stocks with my friend and keep growing twice faster than SP500, meaning I will have $4000 a year. Even $2000 a year is insane rate-of-return for a country where average monthly salary is $350 and the banks offer to deposit your $ at less than 0,01% a year. You read it damn right, Ukrainian banks offer you 0,01% annual return for deposit in dollars, so ANYTHING bringing me % above 0,01% a year is a bargain.
What hardware and software do you use?
Ancient 11 years old laptop with I5-2410M CPU wth 2 cores, 4gb memory and GeForce 540M. I am surprised this laptop is still alive, I was using it for 24/7 for years because I don't have real life and at times I didn't leave apartment at all for half a year or even more. I intended to buy new laptop at first but I will feel better if I can buy stocks, reading articles on investment and analysis of companies is funnier than drawing.
To these people owning stocks right now, buy ZIM
. This Israeli shipping company is pure gold, me and my British friend are losing our minds over how damn good the company's data is. Ultra-wonderful divident yield, high price-to-earnings ratio, no substantial debts and lots of other good stuff, too. ZIM is severely undervalued right now, it's pure value stock and it will give you the easiest 5% a month return in your life. I am giving you this advice at my expense andI did not share it with anybody else, I do not long it yet due to lack of funds but I intend to and I advice you to keep the company for 4-7 months and then sell it depending on circumstances
I use Clip Studio Paint for drawing and hand drawn animation, Premier Pro for mp4 with music like the fresh video I attached and Live2D for mesh/puppet animation. Adobe After Effects is better by far for mesh/puppet animation but it has the highest requirements I have ever seen for an art related program, it's about as demanding as Witcher 3. Live2D is a castrated AE that won't kill your PC if it's as old as mine.
I am very sleepy.
Intuos Draw for $100. Wacom tablets are fine and prized for their quality. You can order Chinese tablets instead if you want a 50% discount. You don't need any fancy shit for $200 and more, this shit barely influences your skill and expensive tablets are more of a status symbol than a boon. iPhone for artists.
people keep shilling me screen tablets and how they're betteriphones are nice tho
Would you recommend the more mainstream sites like Fiverr for graphic design and other artwork? Why/why not?
You need to get approved by mods on Fiverr but I was rejected there a year ago. Twice. That's why I started drawing porn. It may be different for you because graphic design is in much greater demand than the SFW art I make. I know a Polish artist from /ic/ that draws in typical corporate vector art style and earns $2000 a month (I earn $700 a month). Working for Western corps is indeed the best work if only you can land it. >>2103
Good luck Ukrainianon, I hope you will be fine.
I will enlist into the Ukrainian Territorial Defence Forces, new militia and guerrilla unit
Spread awareness of the war and war crimes, this war may end up very bloody. Ukraine is a place with almost 40 million inhabitants, when Iran and Iraq were fighting each other in 1980 hundreds of thousands of people died
This is going to be way worse than Afghanistan and Chechnya
The quickest way to end it is for the entire population of Ukraine to surrender (impossible) or to sanction the Russian government and oligarchs and make them leave. Address your national deputies asking to support Ukraine and send at least humanitarian aid to the countryTHOSE OF YOU WHO SUPPORTED PUTIN:
you fucked up big time but you still can fix your mistakes by addressing your district's deputy to the national parliament. Ukraine will need all help it can get
Удачи, our beloved drawfriend.
wait, why are you enlisting into the army? not worth putting your life at risk, just let it be and work on moving out of that shithole man.
I wanna chime in on the draw friends topic, what if you just don't plain like the art of your friends or don't want your handle to be associated with it?
Ukraine is releasing prisoners to fight for its independence. The soldiers started giving away weapons to anybody willing to take them in my city, if regular army and Territorial Defense Forces fail, the normal people without commanders will have to defend themselves
Don't die in a volkstorm for your burger fascit puppet masters lad https://youtu.be/WV9J6sxCs5k
You aren't fighting for independence because your country wasn't independent anyway
>the Putin's oligarchy will be buried and time is on our side
hope you'll be alive to see it.
stay safe fam.
Now I think about it Switzerland is probably not a good example.
I see that my posts elaborating in detail on Ukraine are getting cleaned up now, but it's okay for this retard >>2161 >>2160 to speak up? I am leaving this board, I don't see reason to remain there anymore while I get this treatment from a Putinist leftie because I said things that destroyed his infobubble. A bunch of brainwashed retards think they know more than an Eastern Ukrainian communist living in the warzone.
redacting this post
you are just another glowje
ziggas really drove out one of the very few competent drawfags on this site
oh wow i hadnt seen this thread, mods are fags as always
Yep. Hope he’s still alive.
mods deleted an argument they started along with everyone replying to him, Not to mention you didn't read the posts he made, literal Ukrop propaganda and crying about the maidan being a response to Russia, and ya kno not a fucking color revolution that the USA all but admitted in cooking up.
its the funny twitter plushie
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