/edu/ - Education

Side note, this website is like the MIA of starting with the Greeks
http://classics.mit.edu/Browse/index.html

Plato is the father of idealism. Know your enemy.

>>12507
What is "idealism" and how is Plato its "father"? He was the student of Socrates and influenced by a few pre-Socratic thinkers too

Plato is a bore, his dialogues only grapple with abstractions that point nowhere and his political beliefs in the Republic are batshit. Maybe it's only good in an academic environment where you can receive direct context from an expert as to its historical importance.
Aristotle on the other hand could be a bit worthwhile. He definitely got the Marx and Adorno seals of approval iirc.

>>12507
>>12509
platonic philosophy was actually akin to eastern philosophy in the sense it was an attempt to make a coherent edifice of the various pagan mythologies like what 'theology' is understood as today.

>>12511
Plato is fantastic for exposing people to critical thinking. All his dialogues are relatively short compared to shit like Hegel or Deleuze or even Aristotle. The form of said dialogues are just that, dialogues, so those who are exposed to constant television and movies and other simulacra media can understand the flow and structure of the writing. The content itself is less important. Plato is baby's first philosophy and newbie gains. It's a rapid pace of examining the world in a way outside of the norm. Most of them never go anywhere because
>OH SOCRATES I MUST LEAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE VOTE TO KILL YOU RIGHT NOW AFTER YOU UTTERLY DESTROYED ME IN DEBATE
<SOH-KRATES U R SO WIZE!
Even with that taken into consideration, the content of his ideas do subsequently create the building blocks for future philosophers, and as the guy quoting Deleuze in the other thread said
>the power and authority of philosophy comes from it's history.

>>12509
Idealism is a philosophical view that reality is fundamentally mental or spiritual in nature and that the material world is derived from non-material entities. Plato is considered the father of idealism because he was one of the first to develop and articulate an idealist worldview, arguing that the physical world is a flawed and temporary reflection of the eternal and perfect world of ideas.

>>12538
Even under capitalism money is only a means to capital accumulation, and most capital isn't "liquid"/tied up in financial instruments