/reading/ groups Anonymous 12-04-23 10:41:04 No. 13302 [View All]
I'm starting this after asking in reading general because there was some interest shown. A thread for the encouragement, maintenance, and organisation of different reading groups- a regular thread will be maintained in order for reading groups to rhizomatically organise. No specific topic of reading is mandated. I would like to start by organising a group, I have a few texts I would be interested in reading but would like to get any kind of feedback because I don't want to propose we read a book and then have a buncha people be like 'nooo i dont like that book' so here are some initial suggestions for what we could read to begin with:CURRENT BOOK: engels' origin of the family (prehistoric society) - Baruch Spinoza's 'Ethics' - Vladimir Lenin's 'Imperialism, The Highest Stage of Capitalism' - Murray Bookchin's 'Post-Scarcity Anarchism' - Felix Guattari's 'Three Ecologies' - Alfred North Whitehead's 'Process and Reality' - Guy Debord's 'Society of the Spectacle' - Theodor Adorno's 'Negative Dialectics' - Fredy Perlman's 'Against His-Story, Against Leviathan' - Friedrich Engel's 'The Origin of the Family' We humbly invite you all! Feel free to organise and maintain your own group here!
82 posts and 13 image replies omitted. Anonymous 16-04-23 04:35:55 No. 13385
>>13382 I think there's way more anons organized than 1%
Plus some people can read it for entertainment if they want
Anonymous 16-04-23 04:39:43 No. 13386
>>13383 If you're not picking up on this, it's litterally petit bourgoies salon philosophy, learning for the sake of having shit to do and impressing other petit bourgoies idiots.
People who read fucktons of books and are useful to orgs like I know are people who delve into historical accounts of previous parties, who do this and come out with conclusions and plans of actions which we can try and apply directly in our modern orgs, or who can pinpoint possible causes of mistakes or previous movements and warm us against them.
It's never people who read kant or Spinoza or anything else. Dont pretend it's anything more than just a hobby. It's no different than learning Minecraft trivia or names of train types.
Anonymous 16-04-23 16:34:06 No. 13393
>>13386 >If you're not picking up on this, it's litterally petit bourgoies salon philosophy, learning for the sake of having shit to do and impressing other petit bourgoies idiots. From experience, it impresses virtually no one. The people who don't know of it have no idea what you're talking about, and the people who do know of it largely haven't read it and will become defensive if you try to talk about it.
People who pride themselves on being "smart" or "knowledgeable" in some way dislike being challenged on this terrain. These are typically the "college educated, petit bourgeois" types you think "philosophy" will impress, and they believe knowing about that sort of thing "ought to impress" others as well, much like you do. And if you want a good example of what actually happens, take a look at your own comments.
If you're wanting to impress people, you'd do better by going to the gym before reading anything. Even joining a socialist party would be a better way of impressing people.
Anonymous 17-04-23 14:17:39 No. 13409
>>13404 I was saying at
>>13393 that reading philosophy impresses no one normally, so the explanation doesn't make sense. I wasn't saying it's bad, but you do have to read philosophy for yourself.
Anonymous 17-04-23 15:50:19 No. 13411
on that note
>>13396 >>13390 >>13379 are also equally 'in le sin' because anyone who loves wisdom would be happy to engage on the point, rather than shaming anti-intellectuals, which in my opinion really plays into valid point they DO have which is that people turn philosophy into a meaningless hobby of 'author collection' and only has the effect of Oedipal repression.
Affirm this life
Anonymous 20-04-23 19:01:45 No. 13416
>>13415 how am I supposed to put it in the op you cant edit this stuff.
It's engels' origin of the family (prehistoric society)
Anonymous 20-04-23 19:26:41 No. 13418
>>13417 We should each pick a flag, name or trip for this thread.
Ideally another thread should be created with the book in the OP.
Anonymous 20-04-23 20:34:13 No. 13420
>>13416 oh i missed this, derp.
no. I did start to re-read against his-story though.
Anonymous 21-04-23 00:13:50 No. 13421
>>13414 If it's that bad, I'll join. I wanted Spinoza, or anything else, but I'm not even that opposed to "The Origin of the Family"; I just wanted to read more books on related topics before approaching it.
Some place to meet off this website should probably be chosen. While I'd prefer that it stay on imageboards in the abstract, it's difficult to organize a book discussion here due to the format, and even more people than usual are going to shirk reading when it's all completely anonymous. Flags would work to mitigate this to an extent, if you're determined not to have the discussion elsewhere.
I also agree with
>>13418 that a new thread should be made for the reading group, with a link to where it'll be discussed (if elsewhere) and, ideally, a schedule.
Anonymous 21-04-23 10:20:29 No. 13422
>>13421 I think we can make it happen I'll be doing the reading each friday after I get off work ready for saturday an offsite thing might be a good adjunct but I won't be participating there only here
If you need a ramp on →
>>13378 is good
>>13416 >how am I supposed to put it in the op you cant edit this stuff. No but the vols can I've asked on
>>>/meta/ @ → >>/meta/26563
Anonymous 22-04-23 17:29:50 No. 13427
>>13425 Well in the meantime let's continue here
To sum the chapter the shift from barbarism to civilization is marked by writing?
Anonymous 23-04-23 15:02:42 No. 13429
>>13417 im gonna force ppl to participate here whether they like it or not
>>13428 READ WITH US READ WITH US
>>13426 READ WIUTH US
>>13427 it was interesting to me some of the developments of like how fishing and pottery play into human development. I didnt realise that yeah humans probably did start by moving across the coasts and fishing
Anonymous 24-04-23 11:15:37 No. 13431
ok. i gave u bitches enuf time to read and discuss. next chapter!!!
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/origin_family.pdf We are on chapter II, the family
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