>They are effectively interchangeable terms since the vast majority of the time you see Perennialism in use it is by a Guenonian Perennialist. The basic idea that all the world's religions are manifestations of the same truth is at least as old as

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Anonymous 02-01-25 03:30:29 No.23323

>They are effectively interchangeable terms since the vast majority of the time you see Perennialism in use it is by a Guenonian Perennialist. The basic idea that all the world's religions are manifestations of the same truth is at least as old as the Renaissance and crops up in the modern day in contexts that have nothing to do with occult fascists though obviously. Huxley would be an example of that.

>But for Guenonian Perennialists, and Nasr is one, it is as far as I know literally all of them besides Wilson. Not all of them very focused on politics, in fact that tends to be the exception rather than the norm. Evola and Dugin are the two big examples of it and Dugin's Guenonianism has always been a bit reserved and mixed with other influences. He was into stuff like Thelema and chaos magic before he got into Guenon and has written critiques of Guenon. When these people do mention politics in passing though it is always in an incredibly reactionary way where they are condemning liberal modernity as an inversion of some pristine traditional (in this perennial occult sense) order. And obviously that carries a condemnation of any possible socialist modernity. Reaction is just inescapable in that view of history, if you see history as a continual degeneration from a lost golden age then you cannot also believe in successively progressive economic stages that are leading to Communism. Every step forward has to be a step downwards.

Gosh what a malicious post in the saged thread. This is surely worthy of a thread.

Anonymous 02-01-25 03:49:35 No.23324

Anyways I would like this anon to articulate more less-strawmanny his position on the anti-umiversiality of religion before I go in on him. Can you say what you arevtrying to say without factoids, useless trivia, non-sequitrs, and etc.?

Anonymous 02-01-25 03:57:25 No.23325

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'ebate 'ddict 'read on da /edu/

Anonymous 02-01-25 03:57:42 No.23326

>>23323
They're not reactionary as such but they revere the past because it was objectivity more marked by the sacred, not because it's political system was a utopia.

Anonymous 02-01-25 04:00:49 No.23327

>>23325
Every thread is debate you fucking retard.

Anonymous 02-01-25 04:02:58 No.23328

>>23326
I said I am not interested in his strawman. I would like him to articulate his view on the anti-universiality of religion.

Anonymous 02-01-25 05:05:10 No.23329

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>>23323
nta but i was the one who asked him about that post and i kinda agree with him especially

>Reaction is just inescapable in that view of history, if you see history as a continual degeneration from a lost golden age then you cannot also believe in successively progressive economic stages that are leading to Communism.

Guenon posters were sorta my nemisis on /lit/ and this describes them perfectly, that the Truth comes from the oldest living tradition and is diluted through the passage of time. They actually do think that Hindu is more true than Islam etc and advocate converting and joining/following a community without questioning it is the path to a good life. Modern online Traditionalists are definitely just nazis trying to appear well read.

that very different then universality of religious teachings

Anonymous 02-01-25 05:09:08 No.23330

>>23329
Ok to me this is still a strawman argument.

> The basic idea that all the world's religions are manifestations of the same truth is at least as old as the Renaissance and crops up in the modern day in contexts that have nothing to do with occult fascists though obviously. Huxley would be an example of that.
This is literally the only part of his post that interested me.

Anonymous 02-01-25 05:11:20 No.23331

>>23329
>Guenon posters were sorta my nemisis on /lit/ and this describes them perfectly, that the Truth comes from the oldest living tradition and is diluted through the passage of time. They actually do think that Hindu is more true than Islam etc and advocate converting and joining/following a community without questioning it is the path to a good life. Modern online Traditionalists are definitely just nazis trying to appear well read.
The truth can only be more clearly or less clearly communicated and all such descriptions ate bastardizations.

Anonymous 02-01-25 05:11:27 No.23332

>>23329
I'm glad that era of lit is over the spamming was just too much.

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