>>25537You're fixated on the goods, but the desirability of the good or a fair calculation of its labor has nothing to do with the value. All of the things you can exchange are only exchanged because there is a market, rather than say outright taking what you want from another person. It falls apart the moment you eliminate all of the niceties of a free market and a society with Laws; and within those laws, price is entirely a question of opportunity. The relations of labor are not reducible to a quantity alone because the laborer wants conditions that are not exchangeable nor replicable. If the worker is unfree, then this arrangement is nothing but slavery, and that's exactly how workers understood their situation. No worker was convinced he was "free", except by comparison to the lowest class who were obviously unfree. The entire price system was an unwelcome presence for the workers, and the cost of even allowing it to continue is far worse than any utility they might have found within the market. So too were the humiliations of the workers intolerable in a way that could never be worth whatever they were "paid", especially with the knowledge that the money was always fictitious and would be arbitrarily confiscated anyway if by some chance you acquired money you weren't "supposed" to have.
People will also buy useless goods purely because of a belief that they are worth something, even if no one will actually buy them. A surplus of dubious product can be sold for no reason other than the favors between producers and resellers, and there is no logic that asserts that the market is particularly efficient at this. The only thing that happens in a market society is that few people actually use the things sold at a market, just like so many don't buy the expensive groceries and most people buy Food Club. You'd have the same problem in a socialist society, which is why every communist society created a two tiered system; one for those favored by the Party, and one for everyone else, with a despised underclass either outright eliminated or shunted to unmentionable places where their brains are chopped up. The latter happened everywhere, but the two tier society is a stark feature of every communist society and it has been intentionally placed there to remind everyone "this never changes". When you see it like that, and see the same thing in bourgeois society, the chief aim of the patricipants of society has nothing to do with anything that was useful, but their requirement to survive a game of sadism and torture that is the common fate of the human race. There is no "other system", and everyone who suggests such a thing is ruthlessly exterminated and mocked because such things are against the human spirit and the core wants of their race. So many have tried, seeing the obvious futility of this situation, yet "this always works" because there are enough people who clamor for blood and torture. Those people only had to select who would be promoted and who was to die, and they did exactly that. It was no more than a matter of time and the inevitable logic of human civilization and the rituals of their race to assert what was "natural", which is really what was imposed by a conspiracy of the sadists. No force in the world could say no to it with any conviction. They could only delay the inevitable since this situation is obviously bad for most of the people, who gain nothing from the torture and sacrifice. Yet, all of the ways money is valued are measurements of torture and humiliation. That is how labor is made to "offer" itself; by torturing and mind controlling the workers into believing any of this is at all a situation they have to obey. The moment that ritual sacrifice ends, everyone would look around, see that the human condition is wholly intolerable, and declare their permanent and irrevocable separation from such a race. The only people who would believe in humanism would be ideologues insisting that everyone must respect an obviously insane system and culture.
It might have been prevented if someone in a position of power really wanted that, if only to preserve something functional for a while, but the only motive for any utility was a pressing fear that required rulers to be sober. If anything good or contrary to the human spirit did prevail in human history, it ultimately arose from a whim or imperfection of the ruling class or a "stain" that had yet to be wiped out, both of which must become inadmissible under all of theories that were "allowed" for humanity. No one is to ask whether any of this ritual sacrifice was worth anything when we could eliminate the obviously guilty parties or simply remove all of the powers they possess by violently disarming them. We do not need a "free society" if this is what humans do with freedom, but it's too late to change that. Even with a free society though, there was still a dim hope that, eventually, the rulers would run out of anyone willing to encourage this behavior and see that the masses were never, ever revolutionary or interested in killing the rulers. Only because of the rulers repeated and flagrant transgressions were the masses pushed to act out of dire necessity, and that problem would be trivially resolved by the rulers simply not attacking us for sadistic pleasure. For a time, that was at least partially allowed, but only because it temporarily facilitated the eugenic creed.
What "should" have happened is an immediate repudiation of the human race in 1945. We had seen enough. It was the only answer, and there was no good reason for the world to enter another phase of war. Yet, that is what happened, and now we must "fight communism" for no reason at the insistence of completely disgusting fags, and they are truly fags. These people never believed in anything but eugenics, and everyone was a partner in it. There was no other idea for humanity, and every such thing was violently rooted out, until those who dissented could do nothing but go mad from the nightmare to come… all for Eugenics. All so that sadistic Masons can keep raping children. That is what it was for. That is the "utility". That is the only utility. The only "pleasure". I don't know why humans think any of their trifling and fleeting sentiments are "pleasurable". If you want pleasure, even exalted pleasure, that is cheap. The greatest pleasure is to simply remove oneself from the predatory society that surrounds them and refuse to participate. You won't "win" and it's "wrong" to refuse to join because some Masons insist ritual sacrifice makes you a man, but none of it ever accomplished anything. Watching a drunken Mason rot away from brain damage due entirely to his own crapulence and the culture that encouraged it showed me that there's no "winning" in such a situation. I'm not even happy to see "justice", even though he's a bastard. I didn't need to "prove the theory" to know that this shit didn't work, because every child can figure it out, even the stupid shits that populate these schools. The only people who win are those who have entirely abstracted the problem and believe that this always works because they willfully ignore the nightmare they created.
Anyway I think this phase of human society will not last too long, despite their proclamations of a thousand year Reich. I give it 40 to 50 years before the next thing starts, and by then there will be no such thing as a "democratic society" and such a thing will be a subject of great mockery. There won't be much of a world, and no one will give a shit about it, but they're going to get the result anyone who isn't a fucktard could see: despotism. And, humanity will see this as the final and correct form of government and rule, with no more qualifications. Congratulations.