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 No.310

This is not a debate thread. I encourage debate on this topic to happen in /leftypol/, as it would have anyway. This is an /edu/cational thread only.

Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the third and highest stage of communist theory, was synthesized in 1982 by the Peruvian Communist Party (known in bourgeois sources by the epithet "Sendero Luminoso"). Here is the document they published concerning this: http://library.redspark.nu/1982_-_Maoism._On_Marxism-Leninism-Maoism
Parties and organizations that uphold MLM theory in the modern day include:
>Communist Party of Ecuador – Red Sun
>Peru People’s Movement (Reorganisation Committee)
>Communist Party of Brazil (Red Faction)
>Red Faction of the Communist Party of Chile
>Maoist Organization for the Reconstitution of the Communist Party of Columbia
>Revolutionary Nucleus for the Reconstitution of the Communist Party of Mexico
>Communist Party of Turkey/Marxist-Leninist
>Committee Red Flag, FRG
>Maoist Communist Party, French State
Red Flag Collective, Finland
>Committees for the Foundation of the (Maoist) Communist Party of Austria
>Tjen Folket - Communist League, Norway
>Committee to Reconstitute the Communist Party of the USA
>Communist Nucleus Nepal
Two other well-known parties are affiliated in part with MLM, although their political orientation overlaps significantly with what we'd call "Mao Zedong Thought" which is not the same thing:
>Communist Party of India (Maoist)
>Communist Party of Philippines
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 No.317

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What has been the most successful mlm organization to their goal?
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 No.318

>>317
The Peruvian party was the one which synthesized the theory, and so in a theoretical sense they reached the highest point of advancement. they also controlled 60% of the territory of Peru in the year 1992. in the present day, however, the Indian and Philippine Maoists are the ones with the greatest hold in their respective countries, followed by Turkey, then Peru. there was also a people's war fought by Maoists in Nepal which successfully overthrew the monarchy there, but this was only accomplished by the Maoists making huge concessions and basically turning themselves into social democrats, so that is a mixed victory.
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 No.319

>>318
What ever happened to that 60% of territory in Peru?
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 No.320

>>319
in 1992, the Chairman Gonzalo (pictured in his cell in the OP) was captured. his was not the only capture, and by the end of the 1990s the Peruvian state had removed a great deal of the leadership of the revolution. this combined with factional disputes within the party to cause them to lose most of their gains. the remnant of the party still fights on in the most impoverished regions of Peru. if I recall correctly, the tide turning so fast after 1992 had a lot to do with increased collaboration from the US.
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 No.321

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>>320
>latin america
>any socialist/communist movements
yep sounds about right
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 No.322

What's the MLM tactic for a protracted people's war in the "developed/1st world"? How do you fight a guerrilla war in the centres of global capital?
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 No.331

>>322
I am no expert in military tactic, but the best way I've heard it put by another Maoist is "if the Irish of PIRA and INLA, the Québecois of FLQ, the Basque of ETA, the Germans of RAF, and the Italians of BR could do it, we can probably figure it out too."
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 No.367

>>331
>"if the Irish of PIRA and INLA, the Québecois of FLQ, the Basque of ETA, the Germans of RAF, and the Italians of BR could do it"
What is it they did? Fail? No one is saying it is impossible for a group of people to get armed and start fighting street battles, gang shootings have been happening on the streets of American cities for decades now. What's the plan for winning that war? How do you supply that war? Maoist rebels generally use the countryside villages as bases and surround the cities. The villages provide them with food and shelter. It would be trivial for a Western European government to cut the supply lines of your troops.

There's also hardly any "jungles" where you can hide in Western Europe. The US and Canada are big enough but you'd either stay on the periphery attacking small cities and towns or you'd be wiped out by their superior military.

MLM doesn't make sense in the West because most, if not all, of the Maoist stuff doesn't apply.
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 No.391

>>367
I can't give you much more than that myself, so I would recommend reading through this article here: https://struggle-sessions.com/2019/10/07/on-the-urban-guerrilla/
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 No.392

What are the differences (if any) between regular maoism and mlm?
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 No.394

>>392
These’s an MLM party here in Pakistan as well, the Awami Tehreek in Sindh. They seem to be pretty good, they’ve helped in establishing more secular relations in the province and they have pretty convincing ideals.
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 No.395

>>394
Didn’t mean to reply :«
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 No.401

>>392
Hold on, writing a comprehensive reply to this question
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 No.405

>>391
That article is all style and no substance.
>IRA wasn't completely destroyed, therefore PPW is possible in the West
I need more to be convinced. And Gonzalo quotes just don't do it for me.
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 No.406

>>392
Not OP, btw. "Maoism" can refer to many ideologies, among them Marxism-Leninism Mao Zedong Thought (MZT) and Marxism-Leninism-Maoism (MLM). Originally, the only ideology that "Maoism" had described was MZT, and within the PRC this was (and continues to be) considered Marxism-Leninism as applied to the conditions of China.
By the early fifties, the two major developments that MZT had over ML as it was understood up until that point were: the ascertainment that the peasantry were the revolutionary agents in semi-colonial*(1), bureacratic capitalist*(2) countries, and that the way to break free from imperialism and towards a socialist construction for the semi-colonial, bureaucratic capitalist Republic of China was New Democracy*(3). These two elements of MZT made up the basis for the military strategy of People's War*(4). The other components that had been peculiar to MZT were its emphases on: the Mass Line*(5) within the framework of Democratic Centralism, and a philosophical contribution on the law of contradiction discussed in "On Contradiction" within the framework of dialectical materialism. All of these components were gathered from Mao's pre-WW2 writings and praxis.
The next major components of MZT that are now downplayed by the current CPC are the insistence: that class struggle continues even under socialism, and that there is a two-line struggle (between an oppositional line of a wrong and opportunist bent and a correct, anti-revisionist line) within Communist parties that last throughout that period until the communist mode of production is reached. These anticipated the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution (GPCR).
The final pillar of MZT is the Three Worlds Theory*(6), it is a theory of international relations. It basically provides a justification for the PRC's foreign policy at the end of the GPCR and beyond. It is perhaps the most contentious of MZT's components between post-Deng MZT adherents and MLMs, and even between different MLMs.
While MZT was conceived and treated as Marxism-Leninism as applied to China, MLM has been conceived and treated as a higher stage of Marxist theory. It is Maoism that can be applied universally. Although there were various Western Communist organizations that adopted "Maoist" as a descriptor for their thought, none really claimed a universal application of a core of Mao's teachings until the late 70s by the Communist Party of Peru (Shining Path). Everything listed prior has been adopted into the Shining Path's general political line, including the Three Worlds Theory albeit with a different take than what Deng had. Soon, other MZT parties worldwide arrived at the same of conclusion of the universal applicability of MZT tenets and either joined the Revolutionary Internationalist Movement (RIM, the first MLM International) or did their own thing. The Communist Party of India (Maoist), for instance, wasn't formed until after the RIM seems to have dissolved.
There's a lot of info I have glanced over, but I hope this served as a neat little intro to the difference between MZT (the first thing that comes to mind when "Maoism" is brought up) and MLM. I apologize if it all sounds too Communist Party of Peru-centered. Please correct me if I got anything wrong, Maoist comrades.

Footnotes:
1. semi-colony,
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/semi-colony
2. bureacratic capitalism,
> https://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/5vc41g/what_exactly_is_bureaucrat_capitalism/
3. New Democracy,
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democracy (overview)
> http://lesmaterialistes.com/english/communist-party-peru-democratic-revolution
(Shining Path's conception of ND)
4. People's War,
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_war
5. Mass Line,
> http://massline.info/sum1p.htm (a great summary)
6. Three Worlds Theory,
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Worlds_Theory

Further Reading:
&lt"Marxism-Leninism-Maoism Basic Course", a great overview of the Five Teachers (Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao), their lives, the material conditions they inhabited, and how it all culminates in MLM. http://massalijn.nl/theory/marxism-leninism-maoism-basic-course/
&lt"General Political Line of the Communist Party of Peru", published in 1988 as the Shining Path kept gaining ground—talks about everything discussed here. https://gplpcp.wordpress.com/

P.S.: Mao wrote much about all the topics, most are pamphlet-sized in length. I believe that you should read about these topics in chronological order.
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 No.407

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>>406
Of course I fucked up the formatting.
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 No.1086

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File: 1608528048171-1.pdf (1.54 MB, 801_digitalizacion.pdf)

Well, I don't think this thread is focused on the Nepalese (well, I think that acording to Gonzaloists are now revisionist no?) So I'll post some G-man books/memoirs. Sadly is in spanish only.
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 No.1087

>>320
Well, said infighting happened because Gonzalo sign the "peace treaty" with Fujimori & Montesinos. The rupture between the Peace faction and the Proseguir (Continue) faction, headed by Feliciano
>>320
Pretty much, the head of the finance was captured, he agreed to collaborate with the police and show who was the person that guard Guzman latest safehouse, then they followed her and wollah! The 1st and 2nd members of the Politburo fall (Plus one top member) in a stream of captures.
And yes, there is knowledge that therr was 1 CIA operative in the intelligence group dedicated to capture them. And they received some finance from them too, this begun when Garcia acepted collaborate with the US in the late 80s.
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 No.1088

>>1087
Sorry, I needed to continue. After the fall of Guzman, Fujimori capitalized a lot on the "Terrorism menace" fear. And meanwhile, enacted a law that was "snitch and free" instead of the common "torture, then snitch, then kill" tactic. Which debilitated more the forces of SP. So much, that when the Fujimori regime fell, like +30% of people jailed for terrorism were never members of SP and MRTA. Also, the hand of the US was in the idea or new trials
http://grancomboclub.com/#article/15660

Plus, the source about the CIA role was discovered in CIA papers
http://grancomboclub.com/#article/1223
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 No.1089

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 No.1174

If someone speakes chinese
https://maozhuyi.home.blog/
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 No.1175

By Ariel Colmenares.
August 2, 2011
The intelligence services of the police and the army have been very active in infiltrating the revolutionary and democratic forces in Peru. During the armed conflict (1980-2000) they made efforts to destroy the people's war through two forms: repression and infiltration. They seeded agents in the intermediate and base organisms. The infiltration began on the weaker side of the revolutionary apparatus. The target was focused on the student movement and on the Peru People's Movement (MPP) (organism generated by the PCP) operating abroad. In the case of the PPM, it was formed without ties to the revolutionary struggle and its members were mostly Peruvians who had left Peru denying the armed struggle. That MPP, due to its ideological-political weakness, was easy prey for the police. Some “generated organisms” remain in this infiltration, both in Peru and abroad. For example, Sol Rojo and Mantaro Rojo, are two supposed “spokesmen” of the people's war who act from abroad whose activity exclusively serves the police.
These “generated bodies” (of the police) do not tire of saying that the PCP “is the greatest threat to the Peruvian State”, or that the “people's war is uncontrollably advancing towards its objective of capturing power and establishing the Democratic Republic " Shout out Chairman Gonzalo alive and shriekly ask that they "publicly present the chief of the PCP." If you compare the propaganda of these police agencies (Sol Rojo and Mantaro rojo), it can be seen that the coincidences with the police and the army and state media are like two drops of water. This is the propaganda carried out by the newspaper Expreso, La Razón, Ojo, Correo, etc. and all the high command of the Armed Forces and the police that worked with the dictatorship (Benedicto Jiménez, Giampietri, etc.). These are the main animators of the sporadic armed actions of the VRAE (which do not exceed 10 a year). Neither Alan García nor any criminal politician should deny this Fujiminist version because precisely this version is useful to the Peruvian State as a scapegoat and a perfect pretext to criminalize spontaneous popular protest.
Therefore, it is not strange that Sol Rojo and the Fujiminist press constantly share and exchange information and make mutual propaganda, as evidenced, among others, by No. 32 of Sol Rojo on page 32 where they copied and pasted the front page of Expreso with a sensational report that that day no other newspaper fell so low to publish. He never resorts to information from other media such as La Primera or others from the legal left, which are disadvantaged with the criminalization of the protest and, therefore, given their contradiction with Fujimintesinism and thanks to the little dignity they have left, they are forced to report truthfully within their limitations.
Sol Rojo and Mantaro Rojo, as well as what he called New Flag, were the creators of Fujimori and their permanence is related to the plans of the police and the military to continue militarizing Peru. There is much evidence of the connection of these groups with the Peruvian police. In 1994 the United States-based Maoist Internationalist Movement (MIM) published a complaint against Luis Quispe, the sinister police officer sent by Montesinos and the SIN to New York, with abundant material seized from the PCP, to lead the New Flag and an alleged “Peru People's Movement” (in the United States). The objective of Quispe and his publication was to attack and denigrate Europeans or Americans who sympathized with and supported the people's war.
Luis Quispe, when he was discovered, moved to Denmark to join Tomás Pérez and form Sol Rojo. Tomas Pérez is a mixed individual of lumpen and political trafficker. He left Peru in the mid-80s and settled in Malmo (Sweden). At the beginning he kept a low profile and joined the MPP that Javier Esparza, brother of Abimael Guzmán, was running from Stockholm (Sweden). In 1993 Fujimori published the "peace letters" and this generated tremendous confusion in all the organizations generated and in support of the PCP. That moment was magical for Pérez, who immediately formed his own "Peru People's Movement," "the only representative of the PCP abroad," he said to himself. Thus began the trafficking of Pérez, who in Malmo is known to have raped two of his daughters and to have committed misdeeds (robbed, swindled, and beaten) against several Peruvian women. What is alarming and highly suspicious is that this individual acts as if he has the protection of the Swedish police. On the other hand, the "Maoist Pérez" is dedicated to defrauding revolutionary groups in Turkey, India and other countries. It makes them believe that the people's war in Peru is at the top and that it is urgent to have "economic aid". In this way, Turks, Indians and others in the name of proletarian internationalism have delivered thousands of dollars that went directly into the pockets of the publishers of Sol Rojo.
About the guerrillas in the VRAE, the following must be said: everyone agrees that this small armed group (wandering guerrilla) has no more than 250 armed guerrillas. Its isolation is total and it does not have the slightest relationship with the popular movement, even less with peasants and workers. Their radius of action is in a geography without inhabitants and beyond the reach of the Armed Forces (that is why they have lasted from 92 until now). It can be said that this group is a controlled and surrounded guerilla, and it follows that they cannot leave there without running the serious risk of being annihilated or imprisoned, as the news shows every year, which Sol Rojo does not show. nor will it ever show.
Where is the strategic balance? The one that Sun Red talks about stupidly. What percentage of territory has the PCP taken compared to 1992?
These are two questions that Sol Rojo and all the informants will never be able to answer to the comrades from abroad, they will always avoid those questions and whoever is an honest foreign comrade and does not seriously investigate, visit Peru or consult with spontaneous Peruvian visitors may be the victim of farce and the figures and accommodative quotes (and in most cases invented) of Sol Rojo and all the informants.
And it is true what this anonymous agent says, it is the bourgeois press that says that Sendero Luminoso is the greatest threat, but not the entire bourgeois press, but precisely the Fujimtesinist sector on which Red Sun depends so much. That is why certain provocative "hikers" in our country only repeat what the agents of Sol Rojo say in front of the police and are never arrested! And whenever we see them, 40 to 50 thugs stop and insult, extort money, ¡ betraying! and physically assaulting honest Maoism sympathizers.

Do maoists really hate between themselves so much??
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 No.1176

Writing note: We republish this article by our late director Luis Arce Borja who appeared in Rebelión on September 27, 2003. This month we commemorate the resistance of the prisoners of the PCP in the Cantogrande prison between 6 and 9 May 1992. We believe that we must keep the memory alive, which implies not forgetting the betrayal of characters like Osmán Morote. Until that date, Luis Arce was not absolutely certain that the capitulation of the Letters of Peace had been orchestrated by Abimael Guzmán, which constituted treason to the revolution in Peru.
In November 1994, we wrote an investigative article (1), where we tried to get closer to the truth about the "peace letters" that the government since 1993 falsely awarded to Chairman Gonzalo. We made a meticulous tour of the actions of the National Intelligence Service (SIN) to manufacture the capitulation letters. There we drew a line between the plans of the SIN and the participation of some prisoners and militants of the Communist Party of Peru (PCP) who had succumbed to the temptation of capitulation and treason. Osmán Morote Barrionuevo, propagandized since 1988 by the official press as "historical leader" of the PCP, deserved our most diligent attention. And regarding him we deduce his secret connection with the plans of the SIN to stop the people's war and assassinate the head of the Maoist guerrilla.
Specifically, we said that Morote was the leader of the groups of traitors who, since the beginning of the Fujimori government, had collaborated with the anti-subversive plans of the army and the police. We also point out that the group led by Morote, until before May 1992, had formed its headquarters in the Canto Grande prison where they met clandestinely with agents of the National Intelligence Service (SIN). We note this deduction in the following way: "..the National Intelligence Service (SIN) reaches an agreement with some treasonous elements who were in different prisons in the country. During the months of September and October 1992, The first rounds of conversations between the SIN agents and the capitulators began. The contacts are clandestine and take place in the Canto Grande prison. " (Operation Capitulation, November 1994).
We also denounce, and this was extremely serious, that the murder of 100 prisoners of war carried out in May 1992 by the Fujimori government, was carried out with the complicity of Morote and his followers. In the bloody events in the Castro Castro prison (May 1992), a criminal command of the National Intelligence Service (SIN) intervened. The objective of this command led from the government palace was to eliminate the 14 cadres and senior leaders of the PCP who were in said prison.
All the imprisoned leaders of the Party were shot when they went abroad as a sign of having concluded the battle. The illogical and curious part of this massive crime was that Osmán Morote, accused of being "number 2" in the rank of PCP leaders, suffered only a scratch on one of his buttocks. He survived quietly and then dedicated himself to coordinating with Vladimiro Montesinos and preparing gifts that he sent to Fujimori from prison. In the analysis we carried out in 1994, we interpreted Morote's strange invulnerability as an additional element that proved his link with the plans of the counter-insurgent forces. We point this out as follows:
"It is almost certain that a secret agreement already existed before May 1992 between the agents of the SIN (National Intelligence Service) and the capituladotes. In the massacre of the Canto Grande prison (May 1992), the police and the Selectively, nearly 100 prisoners of war were assassinated by the army, most of whom were considered "MEMBERS OF THE HIKING DOME." The assassins with a list in hand looked for the "LEADERS" whom, after locating them, they were shot, curiously , some of the "LEADERS" who were saved in that massacre, are the ones who are now working for the "peace accord." They even appear on television hugging and offering gifts to Fujimori. They, with the support of the police, are mobilized by the different prisons of the country Some of the capitulators have been presented as part of the "HISTORICAL CONTINGENT" of the Communist Party of Peru (PCP) … ". (Operation Capitulation, November 1994).
Morote, the treason and the slaughter of the leaders of the Party Our analysis, drawn up almost 6 years ago, has not only come out unscathed over time, but the arguments that we delivered on that occasion have been verified. What we said there in 1994, and which for some was an excess of investigative journalism, has been proven by facts and reality. Since the fall of Fujimori in 2000, and with the publication of the famous vladivideos (2), it has been verified that Osmán Morote, Maria Pantoja, and other treasonous prisoners, became, before 1992, undercover agents of the SIN. But the most spectacular thing about this fact results from the recent revelations of Martín Rivas, former army major and one of the heads of the National Intelligence Service (SIN). Rivas was the right arm of Vladimiro Montesinos, and the chief of operations of the paramilitary group called "Grupo Colina", which the Fujimori government organized to clandestinely execute syndicated groups or people of "Senderistas".
Rivas' testimony has special resonance in the reconstruction of the events of '92 in the Canto Grande prison. Why? Because Rivas was not only an important head of the SIN and the Colina Group, but because he took an active part in the planning and killing of the PCP leaders incarcerated in the prison. What does Martín Rivas say? The executor of the Colina Group has confessed to the journalist Humberto Jara (3), and narrates in great detail how the killing of the prisoners of war was organized. According to Rivas' testimony, "Alberto Fujimori, then President of the Republic, knew and authorized the plan for the extrajudicial elimination of the prisoners of the Canto Grande prison. The planning for the taking of the Canto Grande prison was carried out at the SIN (National Intelligence Service). The objective was to end the Luminous Combat Trench and restore the principle of authority ".." (La República, 09/24/03).
According to Martín Rivas: "A military platoon entered the prison (which was run by himself) with a defined objective: to annihilate each of the members of the Senderista leadership, leaving only one of them safe: Osmán Morote Barrionuevo." "Thirteen members of the Senderista leadership were shot to death without requiring their surrender, and their deaths were officially reported by President Fujimori as" fallen in the aforementioned fray. " According to the testimony, "Osmán Morote was evacuated with a gunshot wound to the right buttock. He saved his life for a military reason not without logic."
According to La República's summary, "That Saturday, May 9, 1992, by order of Fujimori and Montesinos, the members of the Sendero leadership were subjected to extrajudicial executions: Deodato Juárez Cruzatt, Yovanka Pardavé Trujillo, Tito Valle Travesaño, Janet Talavera Arroyo, Elvia Zanabria Pacheco, Ana Pilar Castillo Villanueva, Andrés Agüero Garamendi, José Antonio Aranda Company, Victoria Trujillo Abanto, Ramiro Mina Quispe Flores, Servio Campos Fernández, Fidel Rogelio Castro Palomino and Marcos Ccallocunto Núñez. "The total number of leaders of Sendero Luminoso was nineteen. Fourteen were in prison. One was left alive. Thirteen founders of the terrorist group were eliminated.
Osman Morote was spared
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 No.1177

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In the final meeting before carrying out the complete plan - Martin Rivas confesses - two decisions were made. One was to leave Osmán Morote alive. He was Abimael's enemy because his own boss had turned him in and sent him to prison for dissenting with him. So, he was going to be very useful to us, he was going to owe us his life and we would give him a better treatment. Remember that time Morote was hurt? That was why. "
"All the leaders except him died. If he came out unscathed, suspicions arose, that is why he was shot in the buttocks, where there is no danger, and then the press was in charge of putting together the story that Morote was a coward and wanted to flee and that's why he was shot in the ass. It wasn't. It made sense to leave him alive. "
"That time the message was very clear: We are in total war, just as you knock me down to my highest cadres, I turn you to your records, your spine, but I leave your dissident alive; Morote is now my friend." (The Republic, 09/24/03).
We make no further comment on what Martín Rivas said (summarized by the newspaper La República), and that regardless of his inaccuracies shows the serious damage that the treason did inside the PCP. Now we just add something. Martín Rivas, the bloodthirsty criminal on behalf of the Peruvian State, still has many things to reveal. For example, he should say (he surely knows) what has happened to the head of the Maoist guerrilla, and say the identity of that clown who appears "officially" as Chairman Gonzalo and who since 1993 has been dragging himself at the feet of the rulers. Likewise, we must take the Morote case as an experience (in negative) in the process of social struggle in Latin America. Possible infiltration and capitulation must be taken very seriously not only at the base of the revolutionary organization, but even at its highest ranks, including its Central Committee.

Brussels, September 24, 2003
Notes
(one). Luis Arce Borja, Operation Capitulation, Secret History of the Peace Letters, published in El Diario Internacional number 24, November 1994. This article was widely disseminated in Spanish, English, French, Italian and Portuguese.
(2). Vladivideos, with this word, refers to the video cassette filming that Vladimiro Montesinos made of all his activities within the National Intelligence Service (SIN). In these videos appear, apart from the traitorous prisoners, almost all the Peruvian politicians, as well as many journalists, owners of television channels, owners and directors of newspapers and magazines.
(3). Umberto Jara collects the testimony of Martín Rivas in a book titled "Ojo por ojo", and a comment on this publication is made by the newspaper La República in its edition of September 24, 2003. The extracts that we reproduce here have been taken from said media.
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 No.1213

I’m sure this get asked a lot, but how would work places work? The most basic definition of socialism I’ve found that isn’t “when the government does stuff” is “when the workers control the means of production”. Would this be satisfied by simply having the DOtP controlling all economic development, or would their be more workplace democracy?
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 No.1221

>>406
>Mass Line (a great summary)
Can you explain to me what this means in actual practice? The ruling party needs to listen to the masses - OK, what communist party would claim it doesn't listen to the masses? Structurally, it doesn't seem like the "mass line" represents that much of a change.
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 No.1222

>>1221
that would be like saying that dialectics is "things change into other things" or imperialism is "capitalism but with wars n stuff". the theory of the Mass Line goes into more detail about the relation between the party and the masses than what you've dismissively claimed. also, yes there are in fact "communist" parties that have shitty to non-existent connections with the masses, so the need for a theory of Mass Line is clear.
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 No.1223

>>1221
>>1222
to expand on this: the Mass Line concerns the dialectical flow of knowledge, as well as the attitude towards different sections of the masses. the first part is summarized with the slogan, "from the masses, to the masses", meaning that the party must get its information about the ground situation from the masses, combine that with their theoretical knowledge, and go back to the masses with a plan of action, continuing the cycle. the party cannot attempt to obtain information without the aid of the masses, nor can it aid the masses without applying theory. the second part is summarized with the slogan, "unite the advanced, elevate the intermediate, win over the backwards, isolate the die-hards". as the masses always have advanced, intermediate, and backwards sections, and some among the masses will always refuse the revolutionary movement, the Mass Line adapts the party strategy to match the different sections of the masses.
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 No.1224

>>1223
OK, say I persuade my party to adopt the Mass Line strategy. What changes? What are the specific ways that we learn the attitude of the masses (surveys, interviews, etc?) Are party members bound by charter to vote for policies favored by the masses in polls, etc, or are they free to vote against mass opinion if necessary? The present-day Dengoid CPC still claims to employ a Mass Line strategy - how can they have diverged so far from the "mass" political line under Mao?
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 No.1267

>>1213
Bump for this question
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 No.1270

What is marxism and leninism and maoism
Is it some form of system or different tactics to achieve communism
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 No.1312

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 No.1314

>>405
We don't know yet. Theory develops through practice and we haven't had a breakout Maoist movement in the first world yet. When we do we can evaluate their successes and failures.
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 No.1315

Is the CR-CPUSA already operating and do they have any online presence I can read through?
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 No.1696

File: 1608528113599.mp4 (1.59 MB, 640x358, gonzaloid.mp4)

>>1223
ah if only shinning path had done this
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 No.1758

>>1696
>Gonzalo boiled babies!
&ltsource: Peruvian state media
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 No.1768

>>1315
As far as I know, the CR-CPUSA is just the Red Guards and their successors meeting on an ad hoc basis to sign international declarations by other MLM groups. To my knowledge, they did hold at least one meeting to discuss the formation of the reconstituted Communist Party US by uniting as one and they agreed to withhold from that for some more time. The Red Guards project was disbanded in 2018 but much of the same membership still make up the various 'Serve the People' groups. These STPs have their autonomy but they very much see themselves as comrades in a future rCPUSA, as such, they cooperate more and more as time goes on. The "Tribune of the People" newssite and "Struggle Sessions" theoretical/polemical site are examples of this; previously, "Incendiary News" relied more on Red Guards Austin contributors and the theoretical/polemical work fell on the individual Red Guards chapters' wordpress sites. Even more recently, several STPs have decided to unite their pro-tenant activities under the umbrella of the United Neighborhood Defense Movement, which you can check out here: http://www.undm.org/
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 No.1773

Good books to learn about the struggle in Peru?
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 No.1840

File: 1608528126706.jpg (77.74 KB, 960x492, Hikmet.jpg)

Hikmet Kıvılcımlı's book titled "What is Revolution" is a unique source analysing the matter of revolutions in Modern Society. After Lenin's early demise, the book is Kıvılcımlı's another great contribution to Marxism-Leninizm of 20th and 21st Century.
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 No.2010

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm
>We stand for active ideological struggle because it is the weapon for ensuring unity within the Party and the revolutionary organizations in the interest of our fight. Every Communist and revolutionary should take up this weapon.
>But liberalism rejects ideological struggle and stands for unprincipled peace, thus giving rise to a decadent, Philistine attitude and bringing about political degeneration in certain units and individuals in the Party and the revolutionary organizations.
>Liberalism manifests itself in various ways.
>To let things slide for the sake of peace and friendship when a person has clearly gone wrong, and refrain from principled argument because he is an old acquaintance, a fellow townsman, a schoolmate, a close friend, a loved one, an old colleague or old subordinate. Or to touch on the matter lightly instead of going into it thoroughly, so as to keep on good terms. The result is that both the organization and the individual are harmed. This is one type of liberalism.
>To indulge in irresponsible criticism in private instead of actively putting forward one's suggestions to the organization. To say nothing to people to their faces but to gossip behind their backs, or to say nothing at a meeting but to gossip afterwards. To show no regard at all for the principles of collective life but to follow one's own inclination. This is a second type.
>To let things drift if they do not affect one personally; to say as little as possible while knowing perfectly well what is wrong, to be worldly wise and play safe and seek only to avoid blame. This is a third type.
>Not to obey orders but to give pride of place to one's own opinions. To demand special consideration from the organization but to reject its discipline. This is a fourth type.
>To indulge in personal attacks, pick quarrels, vent personal spite or seek revenge instead of entering into an argument and struggling against incorrect views for the sake of unity or progress or getting the work done properly. This is a fifth type.
>To hear incorrect views without rebutting them and even to hear counter-revolutionary remarks without reporting them, but instead to take them calmly as if nothing had happened. This is a sixth type.
>To be among the masses and fail to conduct propaganda and agitation or speak at meetings or conduct investigations and inquiries among them, and instead to be indifferent to them and show no concern for their well-being, forgetting that one is a Communist and behaving as if one were an ordinary non-Communist. This is a seventh type.
>To see someone harming the interests of the masses and yet not feel indignant, or dissuade or stop him or reason with him, but to allow him to continue. This is an eighth type.
>To work half-heartedly without a definite plan or direction; to work perfunctorily and muddle along–"So long as one remains a monk, one goes on tolling the bell." This is a ninth type.
>To regard oneself as having rendered great service to the revolution, to pride oneself on being a veteran, to disdain minor assignments while being quite unequal to major tasks, to be slipshod in work and slack in study. This is a tenth type.
>To be aware of one's own mistakes and yet make no attempt to correct them, taking a liberal attitude towards oneself. This is an eleventh type.
>We could name more. But these eleven are the principal types.
>They are all manifestations of liberalism.
>Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension. It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads. It is an extremely bad tendency.
>Liberalism stems from petty-bourgeois selfishness, it places personal interests first and the interests of the revolution second, and this gives rise to ideological, political and organizational liberalism.
>People who are liberals look upon the principles of Marxism as abstract dogma. They approve of Marxism, but are not prepared to practice it or to practice it in full; they are not prepared to replace their liberalism by Marxism. These people have their Marxism, but they have their liberalism as well–they talk Marxism but practice liberalism; they apply Marxism to others but liberalism to themselves. They keep both kinds of goods in stock and find a use for each. This is how the minds of certain people work.
>Liberalism is a manifestation of opportunism and conflicts fundamentally with Marxism. It is negative and objectively has the effect of helping the enemy; that is why the enemy welcomes its preservation in our midst. Such being its nature, there should be no place for it in the ranks of the revolution.
>We must use Marxism, which is positive in spirit, to overcome liberalism, which is negative. A Communist should have largeness of mind and he should be staunch and active, looking upon the interests of the revolution as his very life and subordinating his personal interests to those of the revolution; always and everywhere he should adhere to principle and wage a tireless struggle against all incorrect ideas and actions, so as to consolidate the collective life of the Party and strengthen the ties between the Party and the masses; he should be more concerned about the Party and the masses than about any private person, and more concerned about others than about himself. Only thus can he be considered a Communist.
>All loyal, honest, active and upright Communists must unite to oppose the liberal tendencies shown by certain people among us, and set them on the right path. This is one of the tasks on our ideological front.
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 No.2059

>Many Marxist–Leninist–Maoist organizations such as the RIM and the Revolutionary Communist Party of Canada have put forward that much of a hypothetical people's war in the First World would take place in urban areas.
Can someone summarize the theory of this? I've read two MLM articles on the topic and I still don't get it. They hardly addressed the topic as directly as above quoted, rather going over failed ML(!) urban guerilla movements in Europe and South America, criticizing their shortcomings.
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 No.2066

Can MLM's (Protracted?) People's War be applied to urban areas of the imperial core?
Where can I read 'official' theory on this? Was this written about by Guzman, for example?
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 No.2485

>>331
>Start fighting peoples war
>Get drone striked
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 No.2492

Anybody here know what the fuck Leading Light Communism is?
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 No.2935

File: 1608528238251.pdf (9.17 MB, m-l-m Jose Lora Cam.pdf)

Posting this book from the Maoist Jose Lora Cam. Idk the history behind it, only that the guy had to leave Peru in the 80's because the Aprista Killing Commandos put a hit on his life.
Looks like he did a book about MLM in 1975.
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 No.2936

>>2066
Not the "expert" on this, so feel free to check those books posted in the thread (like really, someone should get the second collection of complete works, from the 3rd plenary onwards.
>>2485
We can argue that the yemenis are doing a people's war, not a maoist one, but a people's war (correct me if I'm wrong, I feel it)
>>2492
Wasn't the group that has some stuff about maoism and third-worldism that Unruhe was supporting. I only know that, hopefully theyre actions in (was it Ghana?) give fruits.
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 No.2951

>>2936
I only know of them cause of an "anarcho-maoism" thread which started out as a joke bu then someone talked about how some party members of the CPC had a vision of their ideal socialism which was de facto anarcho-maoism. Then he brought up LLCO, a communist org which talked more about this type of socialism and described their ideology (inspired by them) as a post-maoist communist ideology
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 No.4904

Bumping with the death of senderologist Carlos Tapia.
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 No.4905

I'm gaining appreciation for Maoism (ML-MZT & MLM).
While I have reservations about the the Shining Path, the Philippine Maoists are a beacon in the world today and are carrying out very impressive praxis.
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 No.5053

How much of what is said about the Peruvian Communist Party's atrocities is true? I'm not really a fan of theirs though like >>4905 I appreciate the Filipinos
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 No.5062

What is Unruhe's type of MLM supposed to be?
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 No.5071

>>4905
>>5053
the "truth and reconciliation committee" that published its findings on the death tolls of the Peruvian PPW was a committee created by the same fascist state that fought that same war. taking seriously the claims about "boiling babies" and "slash up a whole village of peasants for no reason" is kind of like taking seriously Chiang Kai-Shek's opinion about the PRC.
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 No.5072

>>5062
Unruhe is a Third Worldist and a defender of DPRK, and neither of those things are really MLM. Third Worldism was an adventurist theory invented by the traitor Lin Biao, and the so-called "Three Worlds Theory" was an opportunist theory devised by the usurper Deng Xiaoping. when Mao spoke of "three worlds" or of the "Third World", he was not advocating that people in the First World abandon revolution, but simply that the communist movement must unite with the anticolonial movement in the Third World and act as its vanguard section.
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 No.5097

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 No.5101

File: 1614991679324.jpg (13.54 KB, 480x360, hqdefault (5).jpg)

Thoughts on Sam Marcy?
https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/writers/marcy/index.htm
Also, when did the soviet union stop being socialist? Why wouldn't they be classified as socialist after this time?
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 No.5275

Why was the Soviet economic system so reliant on foreign aid? The SU owed 22 billion dollars by the time of its collapse to the Paris Group.
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 No.5288

Bump
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 No.5300

I haven't even read the first thing about Maoism. Does anyone have a Maoist chart for when I get round to doing that reading?
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 No.5306

>>5300
start with On Contradiction for the philosophical foundations
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 No.5389

>>5275
Bump for this question.
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 No.5401

ESSENTIAL FILIPPINO DOCUMENTS

CPPs achievements in 50 years: https://cpp.ph/2018/08/23/great-achievements-of-the-cpp-in-50-years-of-waging-revolution/

CPP Mass Work: http://massline.info/Philippines/masswork.htm

2020 statement: https://cpp.ph/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/20200828en_special_ver2.pdf

On the Current Character of PH society: https://cpp.ph/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/20200831en.pdf

CPP newspaper: https://cpp.ph/category/ang-bayan/downloads/


CPP Constitution and program: https://cpp.ph/2016/11/07/cpp-constitution-and-program/ (This one can be confusing without context)

NDFP “about”: https://ndfp.org/about/ (Recommended: Program (similar but slightly different from CPP program) Policy regarding land mines, power of taxation, agrarian revolution, NPA, OPPs, “our story”)

Philippine Society and Revolution: http://bannedthought.net/Philippines/CPP/1970s/PhilippineSocietyAndRevolution-4ed.pdf

Rectify Errors and Rebuild the Party: http://bannedthought.net/Philippines/CPP/1960s/RectifyErrors-RebuildParty-681226.pdf

NPA Minimum Age Recuirements: http://bannedthought.net/Philippines/CPP/1999/MinimumAgeForNPA-991015.pdf

Stand for Socialism Against Modern Revisionism:
http://bannedthought.net/Philippines/CPP/Rebolusyon/1992/R1992-02en.pdf

Reaffirm Our Basic Principles and Rectify Errors:
http://bannedthought.net/Philippines/CPP/Rebolusyon/1993/R1993-01en.pdf
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 No.5402

Paul Morrin's Big Fat 'Is China Imperialst' Reading List

Reading List:

General Resources on Capitalist-Imperialist China:

Is China an Imperialist Country?

https://www.bannedthought.net/International/Red-Path/01/RP-8.5x11-IsChinaAnImperialistCountry-140320.pdf

Banned Thought Section on Modern Capitalist-Imperialist China

https://www.bannedthought.net/China/index.htm

The Restoration of Capitalism in China:

The Capitalist Roaders Are Still on the Capitalist Road - The Two-Line Struggle and the Revisionist Seizure of Power in China - A Study for the Use of Marxist-Leninist Comrades, China Study Group, 1977

https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-5/roaders/index.htm

Veteran Maoist Resigns: “Without Rejection, There Can Be No Rebirth”, My Declaration of Withdrawal from the Party, Zhang Lushi, 2001

https://www.bannedthought.net/China/Maoism/OldCCPMemberResigns-2001.pdf

Rethinking Socialism: What is Socialist Transition?, Deng-Yuan Hsu, Pao-yu Ching, 1998 (2017 edition)

https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/S11-Rethinking-Socialism-4th-Printing.pdf

From Victory to Defeat: China's Socialist Road and Capitalist Reversal, Pao-yu Ching, 2019

https://foreignlanguages.press/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/S11-Rethinking-Socialism-4th-Printing.pdf

The Rise of China and the Demise of the Capitalist World Economy, Li Minqi, 2008

http://digamo.free.fr/minqili08.pdf​

The Great Reversal: The Privatization of China,1978-1989, William Hinton, 1990

http://www.marx2mao.com/Other/TGR90.html​

On China, klifo, 2017

https://en.proletar.ink/on-china.html​

China’s Emergence as a Social-Imperialist Power In General:

Is China An Imperialist Country? - Considerations and Evidence, N. B. Turner, 2014

https://www.mlmrsg.com/attachments/article/82/IsChinaAnImperialistCountry--Considerations%20and%20Evidence.pdf

China: A Modern Social-Imperialist Power, An Integral Part of the Capitalist-Imperialist System, Central Committee of the Communist Party of India (Maoist), 2017

https://www.revaim.org/uploads/booklets/China%20-%20A%20Modern%20Social-Imperialist%20Power.pdf

China – A Social Imperialist Power, Ragnar V. Røed, Tjen Folket, 2018

https://tjen-folket.no/index.php/en/2019/08/15/china-a-social-imperialist-great-power/

How Chinese loans become unrepayable, José María Sison, 2018

https://josemariasison.org/how-chinese-loans-become-unrepayable/

Chinese Imperialist motivations and initiatives in relation to US and other imperialist powers, José María Sison, 2019

https://www.redspark.nu/en/imperialist-states/chinese-imperialist-motivations-and-initiatives-in-relation-to-us-and-other-imperialist-powers/

Examples of Chinese Social-Imperialism in particular:

Financial Sovereignty or A New Dependency? How China is Remaking Bolivia, Emily Achtenberg, 2017

https://nacla.org/blog/2017/08/11/financial-sovereignty-or-new-dependency-how-china-remaking-bolivia

The price of gold: Chinese mining in Ghana documentary, The Guardian, 2013

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ohrrE1rjzLo

150 independent brand cars from China delivered to Nigeria Police, Xinhuanet, 2018

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-06/03/c_137227231.htm

How the Chinese are taking over Nigeria’s economy, Abiola Odutola, 2019

https://nairametrics.com/2019/11/28/how-the-chinese-are-taking-over-nigerias-economy/

Dining with the tiger:Towards a critique of the Sino-Nigeria partnership, Osaze Lanre Nosaze, 2019

https://www.docdroid.net/NcjcrIm/dining-with-the-tiger-towards-a-critique-pdf

The maltreatment of Nigerians in China isn’t likely to end anytime soon, Abdul-Gafar Tobi Oshodi, 2020

https://qz.com/africa/1863029/chinese-racism-to-nigerians-is-likely-to-end-soon/

Migori residents invade mining site which claim was grabbed by a Chinese national, KBC Channel 1, 2020

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DKmfnGc_x20

China and 14 Asia-Pacific countries agree historic free trade deal, Jasper Jolly, 2020

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/nov/15/china-and-14-asia-pacific-countries-agree-historic-free-trade-deal

Social Issues in Capitalist-Imperialist China:

Is Anticonquista really Anti-Imperialist Media? A Criticism of the Anticonquista Media Collective, Red Flag Group, 2020

https://redflaggroup.wordpress.com/2020/02/02/a-criticism-of-the-anticonquista-media-collective/​

Income inequality in today’s China, Yu Xie, Xiang Zhou, 2013

https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/111/19/6928.full.pdf


(Shoutout to Six Heads Study Circle for most of these sources)
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 No.5403

File: 1618099734977.jpg (373.32 KB, 1800x1800, NPAwave.jpg)

For anyone still unsure what the main lines of Maoism today are, here is a little rundown (according to their definitions in 'Critique of Maoist Reason' by Joseph Moufawad-Paul):

>Marxism-Leninism-Maoism (MLM)

This is the main line of Maoism that is active in the world today.

This is the line practiced by the Communist Party of the Philippines (CPP) and the Communist Party of India (Maoist) (CPI(M)) as well as the Communist Party of Afghanistan among others.
Said two former parties are waging Protracted People's Wars against their respective nation-states and represent the height of actual Communist struggle in the 21st Century so far.

This line was first articulated in the 1995 document 'Long Live Marxism-Leninism-Maoism'(1), which was authored by the Revolutionary Internationalist Movement (RIM).
The RIM which was a collection of anti-revisionist Communist parties and organizations (which opposed the Khrushchevite revisionism of the USSR post-Stalin and allied themselves to Mao the then CPC).

The main contributor in the RIM was the Peruvian Communist Party (PCP), who was at the time waging a significant and highly successful Protracted People's War (PPW), which was being practiced both as the USSR fell.

Truthfully, this was the most significant development in Communist practice since the Chinese Cultural Revolution.

<This line is basically the correctly understanding of the The Paris Commune, Russian and Chinese revolutions, the three world-historical revolutions.


>Marxism-Leninism-Maoism Principly-Maoist (MLM-pM)

This a line spun off from the main MLM trend and chooses to only adhere to the PCP's conception of MLM before it was concretely systematized through the RIM.
This is the line that insists that PPW is universally applicable based on the experience of the PCP and their relative success in practicing this strategy in a country (Peru) with a significantly urban population.

The other key concept from this trend is 'Jefatura' which involves the most senior members of the party making executive decisions above anyone else.
This tragically backfired as the Peruvian state was around the time of the articulation of MLM in the RIM able to capture or execute most of senior members of the PCP including it's main theoretician, Abimael Guzmán AKA Chairman Gonzalo, who was been in jail since 1992.

This line has not been put into actual practice since.

These are the two main lines, now onto the outliers:

>Maoist Third-Worldism (MTW)


The infamous ideology practiced Jason Unruhe among others.

This line proposes that no revolution can happen in the 'first world' nations as the working classes there have been bought-off through the concessions made possible under imperialism made by the respective nation's ruling classes, focusing on the concept of the 'labour aristocracy' as outlined by Lenin and the 'Three Worlds Theory' Mao expressed near his death and was perpetuated by Lin Bao.

This conception did not come from theoreticians in the third world, but the first.
The logical (non-dialectic) contradiction is obvious; MTW is a theory that says first-worlders can't wage successful revolutions, and thus never conceive of the correct theory, but said first-worlders were the ones to conceive said theory, thus invalidating their own understanding of things.

>Mao-Zedong-Thought (MZT)


<This line is basically ML+Mao


This was the ideology made famous by the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution in China.

Here Maoism is not considered to be a theoretical rupture to Marxism-Leninism (ML) and define a new trend to address the inherent problems with ML theory and practice (party bureaucracy and endemic revisionism due to the rejection of class struggle under socialism), but simply the specific revisionism of the USSR post-Stalin and other Third International parties who followed suit.

This was the main trend of Maoism until MLM was formulated.

>Post-Maoism


The ideology practiced currently by the Revolutionary Communist Party USA (RCP-USA) and Alan Baidou among others.

This proposes that Maoism, despite being the most recent significant development in Communist theory and history, needs to not be put into practice but theoretically superseded somehow.

The main manifestation of this comes in the form of he RCP-USA's 'New Synthesis' as theorized by Bob Avakian, which since its theorization has made said party a glorified cult for Bob and his theory.

The absolute lack of concrete results concerning this line in actual class struggle speaks for itself.




(1) library.redspark.nu/1995_-_Long_Live_Marxism-Leninism-Maoism!


>If I am incorrect in any points, please correct me and I will amend this at a later date.


>Hope this helps!
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 No.5404

>>5403
BASED
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 No.5405

>>5403
Also if anyone is wondering where they can learn more about all this stuff just look up and read through the 'Colourful Classics' and 'New Roads' collection of foreignlanguages.press , starting with 'MLM Basics Course' by the CPI(M) and 'Activist Study' by the CPP
As noted in the edu post 'Critique of Maoist Reason' (foreignlanguages.press/new-roads/critique-of-maoist-reason-j-moufawad-paul/) is the best thing for understanding the current terrain of Maoism and it's many lines

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