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Hello everyone, we have received the results of our project proposal topic, and I'm delighted to announce that we are teaming up with 'leftypedia' to deliver our planned 'argument/talking point resource' idea. In case you don't know, leftypedia is the current version of the old abandoned 'marxistpedia' which was a project started by leftypol users back in the day, so I think this is sort of like a homecoming in a way.


Anyway, if you have a look at the leftypedia site you might be able to tell that they have a much more formal and 'encyclopedic' tone than what we're planning, just like wikipedia, but the admin is going to create a separate 'category' for our new content that will be called something like 'rhetoric: topic' rather than just 'topic', this will also feature on the frontpage much like the encyclopedic content. As a tenplate, I'd like you to feast your eyes on these pages which someone on leftypedia already made (albeit only on their personal userspace for now).


I'd like to ask if anyone can come up with a slightly more catchy name for our new section than 'rhetoric', cause that sounds a bit cumbersome to me even though I came up with it, so yeah, open to suggestions.

So, since that isn't implemented yet, I'd like you all to try familiarise yourselves with the site for now, maybe take a look at the articles that are already there and improve some of them if you feel able. Unfortunately the site currently has only edit by approval so you will have to wait for any changes you make to be approved, this is because of a persistent spambot problem and I hope that we will be able to work out something to change this to normal editing as on wikipedia and the like, please just bear with it for now.

If you have an answer to a 'common question', or you have an effortpost you'd like to archive and save, then please post it in this topic for now so that we can work on it together until we can figure out how to categorise our new section of the site.

Thanks for your attention!

EDIT: I've now got admin permissions on leftypedia, so I can create pages and approve edits directly. If you want to use the site I recommend you create a user account, which I can then approve once you make a productive edit (to distinguish from spambots), then you won't have to wait for approval anymore and can create articles yourself. Or, just ask me and I can create an article for you if you're desperate to make one as your first edit. Thanks guys, I hope we can make this project cool together!

t. Caballo
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>Pg-27 even when the garbage is being rerouted to /b/
FFS bump


It's not just that /leftypol/ is the wrong board for this thread, but the wrong website. Shitpost threads max out to 500 posts within a few hours while this thread has to keep getting resuscitated. Wrong audience here.



We hear you. Your voices are seen. Thread has been moved.



Resources on Ecomarxism/Capitalism ecological impact - Last subchapter of black shirts and reds (parenti)
(for ecomarxism/ecocapitalism article)


Have you seen this?
MLs created their own "ProleWiki"


Probably because we're so inactive.


man we trying


9/10 it's a glowfag operation masquerading under a LARP of "le epic radical socialists, defending reel soshulism!"


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So I've been slowly adding some parts from (my) nationstates dispatch to the wiki, however since I'm having trouble coding the sources properly I'd like someone to also help out in posting the data and sources if possible.

Also 2 other sources to consider for the article including some content about the gratefulness of Soviet people and the myths about "downplaying"

Also, I request someone correct the part about Zhukov saying "decisive factor" That is a image-quote spread by wehraboos and /pol/. The full and actual words he stated are as follows.

"The Soviet people give their due to the people of the United States and Britain, to their soldiers, sailors, officers and military leaders who did everything in their power to bring closer the victory over Nazi Germany. We sincerely honour the memory of the killed British and American seamen who despite the dangerous situation at sea, despite the fact that they faced death every mile of the way, delivered to us the cargoes under the Lend-Lease agreement. We highly appreciate the valiance of the participants in the Resistance movement in many European countries." (…) "We also touched upon the deliveries under the Lend-Lease programme. Everything seemed clear in that respect then. Nevertheless, for years after the war bourgeois historiography has asserted that it was the Allied deliveries of armaments, materials and foodstuffs that had played a decisive role for our victory over the enemy. True, the Soviet Union did receive supplies the economy needed so badly: machinery, equipment, materials, fuel and foodstuffs. For example, over 400,000 vehicles, a great number of locomotives and communication facilities were brought from the United States and Britain. But could all that have had a decisive influence on the course of the war? I have already mentioned that the Soviet industry developed on such a scale during the war that it provided the front and rear with everything needed. I see no sense in going into all that once more. As for the armaments, what I would like to say is that we received under Lend-Lease from the United States and Britain about 18,000 aircraft and over 11,000 tanks. That comprised a mere 4 per cent of the total amount of armaments that the Soviet people produced to equip its army during the war. Consequently, there is no ground for talk about the decisive role of the deliveries under Lend-Lease. As for the tanks and aircraft supplied to us by the British and US governments, they, to be frank, did not display high fighting qualities; especially tanks which, running on petrol, would burn like torches" - 2014 edition of his memoirs ("Marshal of Victory: The Autobiography of General Georgy Zhukov")
link: http://booksdescr.org/item/index.php?md5=B2EEF3B4C47AF4D8AFE26F4F6F75E34B

Also working on the utterly devoid WW-2 page if I can, expanding into myths about the USSR also taken from there. Also Created a Molotov Ribbentrop Pact which is very much necessary as the subject is lengthy as hell. However I also believe that the Wikipedia page is far too bloated. For example the section on the Background reaches all the way back to WW-1 and The German-Soviet interactions of the Weimar Republic and other information while lacking key information. The Munich Treaty is also touched upon in bloated fashion and portrays the Soviets as overtly aggressive. I suggest taking the base information of wikipedia's page and rewording it, cleaning out unnecessary fluff and inaccurate russophobia and anticommunism and providing context from the Soviet view of things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact#Background

Also Grover Furr's prodigious work on Poland contains detailed primary sources on the subject that I suggest we make use of.

Good luck comrades, help make this project work!



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Recently finished the article on The Great Plan For the Transformation of Nature and while it's pending admin review I just wanted to post some sources worth looking over for anyone who'd like to add more.

An article going over the opinions and historical assertions of Russians and Historians modern and past, on the plan
- http://novsoc.ru/stalinskiy-plan-preobrazovaniya-prirodyi-v-kontekste-istorii-russkoy-myisli/

An article written by an anti-communist Ukrainian ecological group. Many assertions are unfounded anti-communist drivel however a few citations are legitimate and should be looked into.
- http://www.ecoethics.ru/old/b61/52.html

An article with some basic information and high quality images that I don't know how to upload. The Stalin poster should be the top image and several other photos ought to also be included throughout the new article.
- https://ardexpert.ru/article/14074

Cyberlenin article written on the plan

A 1952 academic review of the plan
- http://istmat.info/files/uploads/52263/kovda_v._a._velikiy_plan_preobrazovaniya_prirody_1952.pdf

Another article: http://archive.is/56nXK

Dispelling myths: http://www.domarchive.ru/chronica/8787


>Cuban Republic article doesn't mention Castro or the Revolution except in passing
>Castro doesn't have his own article
>Che Guevara isn't even mentioned
>Bay of Pigs is forgotten



Thanks, good source to sue for later






that moment when the ww1 article is 26 words long



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Mighty fine posts you got there, anon.




>By the beginning of 1918 German armies started to surrender, as the tide of war was going swiftly against them. The German proletariat, suffering from both food and fuel shortages, threatened a socialist revolution at home. German leaders feared that potential revolution and eventually asked the allies for peace. The armistice went into effect at 11 AM on 11 November, 1918

I needd to know more

>Many Germans felt as if they were cheated out of victory by the German military leaders, as they surrendered. A result of the war was also the liberal February Revolution and Bolshevik October Revolution of 1917 which started the Russian Civil War that would lead to the creation of the USSR

I don't understand how what happened in germany had a result in russia


Until 1917, the Austro-Hungarian forces were being pushed back by Russia's army despite the latter being underfunded, under-armed and with outdated equipment (literally no gasmasks or aircraft of their own making, and a British lord reported 1 rifle per 3 people (yes the "Soviet myth" about 3 men to a single rifle actually originated from WW1 Russia).

The Germans had to send forces to stop and push back Russia before it could crush the AustroHungarians, during which time the February Revolution occurred, and later the October Revolution, in which, to quickly end the war and focus on internal affairs, Lenin made territorial concessions to Germany (which would allow Poland to reform) and focused on the Civil War/Revolution while the Western Empires were busy killing each other.

The Versailles treaty was made on the terms of Britain and France, even though Germany's military position was such that it could have and should have ended the war on fair terms since they hadn't started the war at all.

This is why we need people making contributions!


I don't think it's a LARP, it seems rather legit, and somewhat better organized with multiple languages and well organized pages on things like Cuba. We should probably at least take portions of the wiki and use it to improve leftypedia


I just want to ask you guys:

Is Leftypedia good for newbie leftists?


It's still being made but yes, given that it's a community project most articles that have a semblance of completion are well written and accurate. A Prime example would be The Great Plan for the Transformation of Nature seen in >>4537


While there are heaps of stubs, the ones which are more completed are pretty good and readable as the fellow before me said


good idea
i checked the prole wiki and they say that LP stuff is a good thing to use to improve Prole Wiki stuff - nurture eachother


Does anyone want a Canada article?


Yes, please do make one


sure ill work on it. hopefully my newspaper hoarding hobby will help out


Great! The more people participating in the wiki is good.


Can anyone start the Permaculture page?
Feel free to use the Permaculture thread https://bunkerchan.live/hobby/res/12707.html (this is more complete than the one on the current site, as errors deleted like some big old posts and files


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Shay on /siberia/ had a semi-jocular idea, thought this might be a good place to repost it

Towards Independence: Socialism for the Hinterlands
Chapter 1: Why Independence?
Chapter 2: Confederate History
Chapter 3: The Issues Facing Us
Chapter 4: Addressing Prejudice
Chapter 5: What Is Socialism?
Chapter 6: Why Socialism? (Marxist-Leninist-Maoist Georgist Lincolnist Confederalism)
Chapter 7: Foreign Policy
Chapter 8: Demanding Change and Mass Line Mobilization


bumping because leftypedia needs more new articles


Would you mind having a Leftionary? Also give article ideas!



imagine getting your ideology from simping kill yourself any time.


>hundred user accounts
<only a dozen have contributed


Something to add to NATO page
came across an actually half-decent article on some basic background history of nato expansion and the opposition to it from within high ranking military, political, & intelligence leadership and so on. Published 2 months ago, im sure the editors wouldn't make the mistake of publishing a piece like this now

though unless I missed it, it made no mention of the guarantees made to Gorbachev not to expand one inch eastward after the accession of a reunified Germany
Here's a good list of Western opposition to NATO expansion:


funnily enough thats exactly how his books read


Well that sucks


Wtf happened?


Shame, the rhetoric page was actually pretty useful.


Does anyone have that saved ?


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Wow, this is a legit bummer. Going to the articles about the GDR and the like was incredibly infromative to me.
Though, at least, there are some archives:


Can the Domain Owner revive the damn site!? It's been roughly 3 months and its still dead as a doornail. Fix your shit fuckers.


they can also copy the source files and db and send it to someone who can afford hosting the website


you guyz don't have 10$ a month? how broke are you seriously?

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