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 No.13127[View All]

of course most /pol/tards side with caser's legion but looking at it almost every single faction is awful one way or the other, The NCR is literally a reboot of America that is in the middle of a manifest destiny, House is a egotistical maniac and probably appeals to Musk bros and Yes man is just a libertarian wet dream
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 No.29202

>>13142
i think that downplaying singular cultural structures that arose as tribes in the mojave and supporting one of the major factions that will erradicate their uniqueness is too close to colonialism
>>13176
your comment has some merit. i believe that cesar is extremely pragmatic, and would be able to steer society in a more moderate direction as a political strategy to reduce friction
reactionary dictatorships were seen to fail aswell, if the society he built manages to stray towards a high tension moment hell do everything to remain as an important figure, even if he must change his behaviour and appear as a "reformist" king of the people. this too can become a seed for revolutionary struggle. charismatic latin american autocrats like juan domingo peron and getulio vargas come to mind

 No.29695

I found a thread on /vrpg/ talking about the politics of Fallout and it's pants on head retarded.
https://boards.4channel.org/vrpg/thread/3162656

 No.31700

>>27634
first time I played I had ian with me, and I used him as a human shield so I never had that problem. I had a smooth playthrough considering the shit I keep hearing from other zoomers

 No.31701

>>29195
There are various kind of fun and immersiveness is one of them.

 No.31702

In my current run I for the first time sided with the powder gangers and went into the correctinal facility and these guys seem to have genuinly some revolutionary potential. They were slaves in the facility and basically just did a slave revolt. They don't seem to have much of an organization and keep fighting against each other, but this guy "Cooke" apparently went north to organize a payback to the NCR. Couldn't find him from the Facility to Quary junction tho and I can't fight deathclaws with my lvl 2 courier. Can't believe /leftypol/ hasn't mentioned powder gangers in this thread yet.
Imo, there should have been a powder ganger + great khan general ending. Destroying the NCR western control and fighting off the legion at the same time, would have been cool.

 No.31703

>>31702
maybe they shouldn't have been raider scum?

 No.31704

>>31703
maybe you shouldn't be some gusano ass kulak that deserves to get raided

 No.32870

>>17699
>>Distribute HELIOS energy to the full region
I'd actually only would distribute energy to Freeside and Westside. Reason being the Lucky 38 actually has a fully functioning fusion reactor that's activated near the end of the game that would most certainly be able to supply energy to New Vegas (and hell, Vegas already being all lit up like that is a sign that they aren't lacking energy). This is all despite the fact that having control of the dam pretty much solves the need for energy.

I agree with the other points tho. Don't forget to kill Caesar before fighting at the dam, to ensure complete Legion annihilation lol

 No.32871

>>31702
Funny that you said that, someone actually had a similar idea, and made a pretty big mod around it: https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/74958

TL;DR: A former inmate formed an independent, good-aligned militia, and you are tasked to recruit reformable PGs and establish them as a major faction.

 No.33872

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>le survival horror dlc whose gameplay is only conducive to a few specific builds
What the fuck were they thinking?

 No.33879

>>33872
Ironically you can cheese the DLC just fine if your at a lower level and just do enough avoiding.

 No.33880

Is there any reason not to support the ncr?
legion:
roman larpers that will collapse when ceaser is gone. Unironically promotes slavery, and women inferiority.
bos:
technophiles that are a shadow of themselves. Literally hides in one bunker
Great khans:
yeah, nah
Mr. house:
A old world capitalist thats recreated a worser version of singapore. Is a megalomanic
Boomers:
see the great khans

 No.33882

>>33880
They're a capitalist bourgeois """democracy""" controlled by brahmin barons and hampered by corruption & a bloated bureaucracy.

 No.33883

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I think I finally understand why Ulysses hates house and the NCR
When he talks about becoming smiling faces on someone's robot, when he talks of someone who can't let go: it's because the world that House wants to bring back, keep going, died in nuclear fire. No matter how much House may want to deny it, the old world is gone, dead. The new world is made up of tribes, not a massive city overseen by a president or anything. No matter how much he wants the way of the old world to return, it can't. The NCR is more or less the same; they are trying to be a government like the United States was, yet all they got right was that there is corruption among the higher-ups.
He okay with Caesar's Legion because it's not the ghostly shadow of the world that burned itself in nuclear fire. Caesar's Legion is more or less what any one of the more violent tribes would have done, would have become, had they the know-how and the muscle to see it through. Caesar fashions himself the Caesar of old, old even by the old world's standards, and it's fine by Ulysses because it's essentially one massive tribe obeying its chieftain. Maybe that's why he doesn't really 'blame' the Legion for what it did to his own tribe: it's in the nature of the various tribes, and it's human nature essentially

 No.33884

>>33883
The NCR is a mostly stable society that makes up most of the west coast though.

 No.33885

>>33880
I support the followers

 No.33893

>>33882
I RATHER HAVE THAT THEN BE
legion:
enslaved
bos:
isolated
Great khans:
meme
Mr house:
casino den but megalomaniac singapore

 No.33894

>>33885
actually this is a decent choice, i respec t that.

 No.33898

>>33894
Well it's a copout since they aren't a government, and the NCR is the territory where the followers are the strongest anyways

 No.33913

Could the NCR reform the United States?

 No.33914

>>33913
In the actual game canon, no, because that would end the series, but realistically, I see no reason why they wouldn't eventually, they have already progressed back to 20th century technology levels and realistically nothing like the legion could actually stand against a modern army. I doubt the NCR could field a massive airforce but they could sure as fuck reinvent artillery and obliterate any raiders or tribals that stood against them.

 No.33921

>>33913
>>33914
Actually, there is a reason they can't. Unlike the early US, they don't have a population of mostly agrarian settlers. The vast majority of their population lives in urban areas and is content living there. The only NCR citizens who move further east are the stationed soldiers.

 No.33926

>>33921
From what I understand the NCR mainly grows by integrating the people already living in a given place, not by colonisation. There are some NCR settlers in New Vegas from my remembering but I think in the NCR victory ending they make New Vegas a state outright.

"The New California Republic celebrated its second victory at Hoover Dam, establishing definitive control over the entire Mojave Wasteland. Soon after, they negotiated terms to annex The Strip, Freeside, and many surrounding communities. The Mojave Wasteland, at long last, had entirely fallen under the NCR's banner."

 No.33931

>>33926
They'll shove their cocksucking flag up New Vegas' ass and call it a state. Get your head out of your cunt and read a fucking book.

 No.33933

>>33931
what did anon mean by this?

obviously the NCR is imperialist in some senses, it doesn't mean bringing civilisation and order back to the wastes is bad

 No.33935

>>33921
>Unlike the early US, they don't have a population of mostly agrarian settlers. The vast majority of their population lives in urban areas and is content living there.

Isn't it like, the complete opposite? A majority of settlers from NCR tell you that, sure, work is there… if you like mining or farming. Not to mention that a lot of farmers are fled out of the NCR into New Vegas to escape the emerging kulaks, who have a firm grip on politics and are not above using mercs to bully people of their land.

That's an issue that does pop up elsewehre, for example with the leader of the rangers, Hanlon, or OSI.

>>33898
>>33894
>>33885
The Follower situation could be interesting, since it is fairly clear that many within the NCR feel that the FoA ae overstaying their welcome, but that they can't get rid of them since they form a major part of the formers intelligencia… which the advent of the OSI ruined.

 No.33936

>>33935
>A majority of settlers from NCR tell you that, sure, work is there… if you like mining or farming.

Not sure what else anyone would expect given how fucked the former USA is, surely farming in the NCR is better than living in a shack in the wasteland

 No.34083

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>10-15 minute ending slideshow (if you do everything) for a fetch-quest DLC with early 2010s reddit humor
Also yes I'm the same anon as >>33872 every DLC is shit but these two especially. Thanks for subscribing to my video game review blog.

 No.34084

>>34083
long endings are good though

 No.34141

>>34084
It's a DLC, it's not supposed to have long endings comparable to the base game.
Not to mention, it's also the fastest DLC to fully complete (all quests, challenges, unique items, locations etc). I only noticed that recently since this last playthrough was an autistic completionist min-maxing one.

 No.34142

What was the way that you guys used to reach New Vegas in your first playthrough?
I honestly think I'm the only one in existence who went through Hidden Valley, then to the Scorpion Gulch, past the El Dorado lake and then continued on normally through the 188.

 No.34143

>>31703
They were raiding the entity who had them in chains lmao.

>>31702
Nobody knows about this version of events because they show up at the start of the game and are portrayed as the fodder enemies hassling the poor townsfolk. Even without gamer brain, you'd still have to go out of your way to talk to them to realize there's an option besides killing them, and once you do that you are hard-locked out of their content. They might have been meant to be better fleshed out. A lot of stuff was cut from the game.

 No.34146

>>31702
>>34143
The thing about the Powder Gangers is that they aren't really just one faction. There are 2 big groups with a coherent organisation with the rest being small bands in camps and roads that answer to no one.

The first of the big ones are that of Eddie's in the NCRF. These are anti-NCR, of course, but they're also raiders who harass towns not affiliated with the NCR like Goodsprings and Nipton (or used to for the last one), and also caravans.

The second one is that of Samuel Cooke in Vault 19. Cooke is who led the prisoner revolt in the first place, and then left NCRF with a group to the Vault. Under Cooke when the game is first started, they don't raid and are hostile to the NCR (infact they aren't even technically a part of the in-game Powder Ganger faction, so you can kill Eddie and most southern Powder Gangers without making Cooke's group hostile). The group is currently split between Cooke's faction who want to join the Great Khans, and Philip Lem's faction who want to surrender to the NCR. You can help either Cooke or Lem, ignore the quest, or blow up the Vault. Doing any of the latter two will result in the Vault 19 group becoming raiders in the endings, though.

 No.34148

>>34143
>They were raiding the entity who had them in chains lmao.

They were mostly sent to prison for raiding IIRC.

 No.34180

>>34083
Thematically Dead Money is great and fits perfectly with the main story, but I agree it isn't very fun to play. Never cared for the other DLCs either.

 No.34517

All of the fallout games are 75% off on steam. I'm going to grab all of them up to FNV but what's the verdict on 4 and 76?

 No.34518

>>34517
FO4 is 'ok', if you're bored you can get fun out of it, but in retrospect it's not particularly memorable, the story isn't very good and the characters are silly. If you had fun with Starfield you can enjoy FO4

 No.34524

>>34517
Expect Bethesda rather than Interplay or Obsidian and you'll have a good time

 No.34526

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>>34518
Thanks. That about sums up how i felt playing it on PS4 when it was new but I was hoping the modders on PC had salvaged it.
>>34524
I've only ever known Bethesda's Fallout 😭

picrel, a pretty good haul if you ask me

 No.34527

meant to add, I own 2 but still haven't gotten over how old school it is enough to play it yet. one day

 No.34528

>>34526
I didn't play it with mods TBF so I'm sure there are ones that make it better.

I'm so fucking bored right now, tell me if you find anything decent to play

 No.34530

I take it no one has played 76? I wouldn't even be asking about it as it was pretty widely panned when it was released but surprisingly it has crawled up to a 'mostly positive' rating on steam
>>34528
Not to derail but ya Im in the same boat. I know my buddy is having fun with the new Rimworld DLC but i dont like Rimworld and him talking about it just made me want to play Factorio, i guess cuz its another isometric resource management game. Another game thats coming to mind is Kerbal Space Program 1
You probably dont want game recs from me my most played game by a wide margin is Victoria 2 idk if you get down like that (autism)

 No.34532

>>34530
I actually looked at the Rimworld DLC but I don't really like horror and the last DLCs just seemed lame to me. Overall Rimworld is just kinda IDK, ehhhhh, I tried to play it like a year ago and I just was bored after like 15 hours without really doing anything

 No.34535

>>34526
I never really bothered with mods for Fallout 4 aside from bugfixes, the first half of this guide covers everything important https://themidnightride.moddinglinked.com/
They also have a guide for an FNV overhaul and a modlist that lets you play FO3 and FNV in the same game, I haven't tried them but I hear they're good. Other than that, there's a settlement overhaul called Sim Settlements that just released a big update and is supposed to be excellent: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/73394

 No.34541

Bethesda games are peak when you execute the uninstaller.

 No.34545

>>34535
This list is so fucking large. Just driving the point that FO4 is fundamentally fucked tbh.

 No.34576

Im totally going to give 1 and 2 a fair shake, currently restarting after getting killed after aggroing Killian somehow but man the lack of any real exploring of the wasteland is a bummer cuz that's 90% of why I like fallout. Still, enjoying it so far.
>>34535
Thanks anon. Not sure if its in that modlist but I saw someone on twitter recommend a mod called Better Locational Damage for removing bullet sponges which was always a gripe I had with the Bethesda games
>>34545
Ya its crazy that most of that is just to fix the game I was thinking more along the lines of overhaul mods cuz I recall not being a fan of the map or story.

 No.34577

>>34535
FO4 is too fundamentally broken to fix with your typical mods tbh. Maybe any mods at all depending on how much support there is. When it came out there was none. You would essentially have to gut the core mechanics.

 No.34582

>>33933
muh civilization and order

 No.34583

>>34582
yeah let's all scratch in the dirt instead, and be at the mercy of deranged slavers


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