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I just beat this game, I remember seeing another discussion thread about this game but I can't find it, but I want to talk about the game, full spoilers.
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Is Disco Elysium an RPG or is it a choice-heavy adventure game with jrpg-tier character customization wearing the skin of an RPG?

>>36900
It's an RPG. Adventure games are usually linear or at least mostly linear

>>36901
CYOAs and interactive fiction in general usually fall under the umbrella of the adventure game genre (it's what VNs are actually called in japan).

>>36902
It's not a visual novel though.

>>36903
Are you sure? It has a lot of visuals and much novel also.

>>36905
It has 3d movement, leveling, and non linear gameplay, it's clearly not a visual novel.

>>36907
Yeah. It's a non-linear adventure game albeit.

>>36900
>>36901
To clarify why Disco Elysium is NOT an RPG, notice that the player only ever effects changes in the gameworld by selecting options in a dialogue tree. Every possible action the player can take this way relates to a predetermined set of effects and game states, like a series of flags in a CYOA book. According to some, the main aspect differentiating RPGs from adventure games is interaction with a complex system, leading to emergent gameplay. You could say skill checks and NPC schedules are instances of this, though they never really affected my game beyond spending points as needed or going to sleep.

>interactive game isn't a game because I say so
groan take it to /v/ please

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Mrs evrart may not be so cool after all…

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What do you think of Hegelian VVorldbuilding?

>>36926
Wtf Evrart Is a Dengoid?

>>36980
He's talking to a self-avowed crooked cop

>>36984
ya. This line of dialogue flies in the face of everything he actually does. Stonewalling the representative and striking till the company sends their paramilitary doesn't sound like my idea of working with the company

>>36979
They're right. Just as an example, the MCU should have been rocked to its core by the events of any given movie. Iron Man made basically unlimited clean energy. Thor proves that gods/aliens are real. In a Captain America movie a clandestine US government agency (under the control of an even more secret society of super nazis) was revealed to have made a giant execution platform for the sole purpose of executing political dissidents. Then you have Endgame or whatever and, what, a full half the population just disappears in a puff of smoke? That's apocalyptic, but you watch Spiderman or whatever and nothing's really changed. Snapping people back into existence is all well and good, but just putting the people back isn't going to undo the total shakeup of every single aspect of a person's life.

>>36980
You didn't get that from the fact he asks you to evict some slum dwellers for his big huge real estate development?

>>36986
This is one of the things that annoys me the most about fanfics, or books, or whatever, is the repercussions of things not being taken seriously, like Earth gets invaded by aliens or something and everyone is just making stupid quips everywhere. I was reading Homestuck a few weeks ago and the fact that the destruction of mankind and Earth and so on was barely mentioned by any characters except in passing. Not that that's the worst example but yeah.

>>35309
>Quite disapointed with Kim, he was quite harsh with the workers liberation thingy.

He still is a cop

>>36986
>Iron Man made basically unlimited clean energy
IIRC he kept the best of his tech for himself due to his mistrust of others with his gadgets. I imagine the Stark company is a lot like most IRL Silicon Valley startups where they'll show off a demo version of some invention and then never follow up on it

>Thor proves that gods/aliens are real

Doesn't the US govt cover up Thor's arrival? That said, the NYC invasion in Avengers 1 most certainly is not covered up, and makes aliens & Norse gods very much public information, so your point still stands. And then later on Thor pretty much settles down in Norway and instead of it becoming a place of religious reverence or theological research it's just a tourist destination lmao

>In a Captain America movie a clandestine US government agency (under the control of an even more secret society of super nazis) was revealed to have made a giant execution platform for the sole purpose of executing political dissidents

This one is really egregious because the movie makes a huge point about how the ABC agencies and the US MIC overall are modern day fascism, up to the point where US carrier ships are almost used to murder millions of people and terrorize the rest into submission…and then in the very next movie, those same carriers are used for a heroic rescue in Eastern Europestan, with the victim of a US bombing attack saying "I guess [the agency filled with literal Nazis] isn't so bad after all!"

To the MCU's credit, the Avengers do spend more movies hunting down the remnants of Hydra, so it's not like that plot point didn't completely disappear from the world.

>Then you have Endgame or whatever and, what, a full half the population just disappears in a puff of smoke? That's apocalyptic, but you watch Spiderman or whatever and nothing's really changed.

This is the worst one for me. I've always said Endgame is one of the worst MCU movies, and this is a big reason for it. Thanos's plan is so horrifically bad and should've been enough to destroy countless civilizations, but all that happens is a handful of people are sad and NYC is a bit desaturated. It comes off as though the screenwriters are misanthropists who actually think Thanos's plan would work, but is bad only because people would die. And that is not the type of message that needs to be sent as climate change gets worse and worse.

>just putting the people back isn't going to undo the total shakeup of every single aspect of a person's life.

The MCU does try to follow this a good bit, but only from the perspective of the heroes and how it personally affected them. Very little is actually done about the economic & political impact of Thanos's snap story-wise (except for that Falcon & Winter Soldier show, which wasn't very good).

>>36979
>philosophy
ew

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The child consented tho.


I met someone with the Official Zaum™ Disco Elysium™ Kim Kitsuragi™ Aerostat™ Bomber Jacket today.
He was a military industrial complex tool.

>>37393
Quelle surprise.

>>37393
>Kim Kitsuragi -"No. We are stooges of the world's biggest bourgeois organization – protecting the people of Revachol. That's the hand we were dealt. Without the MI, we would be common vigilantes."
< Harry du Bois: (Turn to Kim.) "So when I said I was a lackey of capital, what I should have said is that I'm a Moralintern bitch?"
>Kim Kitsuragi - "Doing one's job doesn't automatically make one anyone's *bitch*. Besides, there are more nefarious powers to work for than the Moralintern."

Kim has the most moralist political view, he is literally a cop, and he doesn't appear in the final espirit des corpes moment, so there is no confirmation he was conscripted in the possible "revachol revolution" after the game.
But he is also responsible, kind, extremely competent and selfless. Wearing his jacket TM doesn't make you into that. You can wear a Jesus TM christ TM, that won't make you into Jesus.

<The Deserter - "Everything is brands with you individualists… Who cares what *brand* my shoes are? Sansa…" He looks at his running shoes, covered in mud. "Some shit."

>deserter doesn't immediately shoot you if you internalize fascism
shit game 6/10

there is an annoying amount of times DuBious critfails a rhetoric and just says something racist, which really sucks because kimmy just accepts it instead of beating him up ;_;

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banner

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https://summereternal.com
An spiritual successor made by former ZA/UM employees has been announced (No Rostov or Kurvitz tho)


>>37416
He's a cop. He's probably heard that and worse every single day.

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>>37443
Gardening goals.

>>37443
The anarchist wrecker cunt is in there.
Doomed to fail.

>>37393
I do really be wanting that schizo t-shirt on their site tbh

>>37443
Kurvitz seems like he would be essential.

>>36994
I think what's really mindnumbing is the constant need for apocalypses and hidden aftereffects of said events

>>37471
Apocalypses are fun, they turn the world we know on its head. I'm playing Project Zomboid right now.

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Quick rundown on the different studios making successors of DE.
I think I am the most interested in Summer Eternal, since unlike the other studios they seem to be doing their own thing rather than just re-skinning the original game and its mechanics under a different setting. Still, I'm genuinely hyped for all of them and wish they find success.

>>37416
>there is an annoying amount of times DuBious critfails a rhetoric and just says something racist, which really sucks because kimmy just accepts it instead of beating him up ;_;
He does pure go into you if you fail at the rave, but yea.
>>37472
>I'm playing Project Zomboid right now.
Just play Catacylsm:DDA instead of it's inferior youtube bait version.

>>37483
PZ is much more userfriendly and IMO fun than CDDA. CDDA just becomes a pain in the ass after a while. Sprite based games are dead old man


>>37479
this also

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>>37519
Hard as hell art. I find myself gravitating more towards the Kurvitz Loyalists because the thing I liked the most about Disco Elysium and ASATR was their world building for its particular universe rather than the writing or gameplay mechanics, something that sadly is never coming back. Still, I really hope all of these new projects turn out to be great in the end.


>>37547
ooh, interesting

Happy 5th anniversary to Disco Elysium

>>37553
>>37552
I found it interesting. Gave me hope for hte project they're up to, he seems to think they'll win in court. Genuinely nice guy.
I also appreciates the care the host takes around the obvious issue of the ZAUM fallout, think he's been really good in general even though to begin with i didn't think i'd listen to such a niche podcast.
>>37553
>Happy 5th anniversary to Disco Elysium
Happy Aniversary!

>>37547
We were fucking ROBBED.

>>37560
we still might get it, anon.
time. :)



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