I have a weird fascination with this franchise, particularly its fans. How do they remain so loyal when there's been maybe one or two good games in the last two decades in a sea of average-to-terrible garbage released year after year? How did Sega manage to take all the wrong lessons away from their colossal fuckups of the mid-late 2000s?
554 posts and 183 image replies omitted.>>38709>like?CD, S3&K, Adventure series, Battle, Advance 3 (what's with Sonic and the number 3?), Heroes, ShTH, Rush series, '06 (kinda), Storybook series, Unleashed, Frontiers. Everything else is either an excuse plot or sucks. Or an excuse plot that sucks. There are also a lot of fan projects with good storylines.
>>38712 (me)
Forgot Shadow Generations.
>>38725Tails and Shadow did change (sometimes positively, sometimes negatively). Amy too, though that character development happened off-screen. Sonic himself is not the kind of character who undergoes character development to begin with, it's like demanding the funny wahoo pizza guy Dante to completely change his personality. I don't really understand that complaint, that's like complaining about Doom Slayer always being serious and brooding or Gordon Freeman being mute. That's the whole point. Sonic is an cool, cocky, impatient and adventurous environmentalist existentialist freedom fighter. A snarky kickass Absurdist counter-culture eco-terrorist antifa sorta.
That said, you can fuck up Sonic and Dante's personalities easily, which already happened a few times.
>>38738 (me)
Now that I described Sonic, he sounds like a radlib or something. The difference is that he isn't actually obsessed with idpol and isn't left-wing. He often collaborated with monarchists too and seems to be okay with the US government ruining the environment for… some reason. I guess it's only bad when Eggman does it. Or perhaps he doesn't care if it doesn't affect his habitat.
>>27921>fans will always make better stuff than a company with committees and trademark management ever willDo you have a single fact to back that up?
>>27891>fast-paced action makes it a perfect choice for autistic individuals who have difficulty processing information quicklyIsn't that contradictory? Mario seems better suited for slower walkthroughs. Why aren't Mario fans ever accused of autism then?
>rich colors, bright graphicsAgain, Mario fits this description better. Also, my favorite games of all time are Devil May Cry 4 and Metal Gear Rising so uh… Do I still qualify for the diagnosis?
>Additionally, Sonic's wide range of enemies and obstacles keeps the games interesting without overstimulating the senses with too much change or uncertainty.Isn't that, like… every action game ever?
>Furthermore, the game's challenge mode helps players further develop their cognitive capabilities as they try to master levels with each new replay.That's pretty common in all types of games. Even Tetris.
In conclusion, this entire board is autistic. Also, this site has bright colors. Might as well call the whole site autistic for having such an autistic color scheme. The sky is autistic. It's too bright.
>The cool tones of blue can create a serene and peaceful environment reminiscent of the skyhttps://silverswingaba.com/autism-and-colors-do-they-have-preference/…Well, fuck.
>>39256 (me)
You know, I'm more concerned about having ADHD than autism now that I think of it. I do have a
veeeery strong preference for fast-paced cocaine-brained games which require pressing lots of buttons at breakneck speed until I die. I never could get into chess, that shit is painful.
>>39514 (me)
The counter is starting to rise, guys, very epic. Now outracing SADX in the list is a possibility,
>>39514 (me)
Oh, I forgot: be sure to tell your friends to tell your friends' friends and publish the news somewhere where everyone can notice it while doomscrolling like other imageboard sites.
>>39514 (me)
WE'VE REACHED A MILESTONE OF MORE THAN 100 VOTES IN JUST A FEW DAYS, WOAH!!Good job, guys. So proud of you all.
>>39514 (me)
Sonic Mega Collection Plus:
DEFEATED.Next stop: Sonic and the Secret Rings.
>>27867I feel estranged from the rest of the Sonic fans. Some are furry fans, some are just horny, some like to make OCs, some are Archie fans, some are autists who find Sonic characters easier to visually comprehend, some like side characters, some are Christians, some are fanboys who defend '06 to their death, and some are elitists who hate on anything past S3&K except for Mania. And this isn't why I like Sonic, I just think Sonic and his games are cool. Maybe they're not rated M for Mature but, like, Sonic has the same energy as Devil May Cry and Jet Set Radio.
Am I the minority here? Are there any fans of Sonic Battle, Sonic Rush or Sonic Riders?
>>39826Modern Sonic is a dumpster fire but the classics are still some of my all-time favorites. And you indirectly touched on a personal belief of mine. I cant speak for everyone, or even for autists ( Im not diagnosed but I wouldnt be surprised if I were on the spectrum ), but I believe they tend to like Sonic because he is the embodiment of self confidence and cool. Something they weren't growing up.
At least I wasn't.
Also s p e e d
>>40029I like the sonic characters because I think they are cute and often sexy
And the games are genuinely fun even though they're not masterpieces, fuck the haters. They might be deeply flawed, but they have a sincere and enjoyable energy about them that most games do not.
It's just nice to turn my brain off and run around collecting rings, anon. Not everything has to be a bone tingling spine rumbling deep experience like DaS1 or metal gear.
>>39417 (me)
Come on, guys! We need 321 more votes to beat the Director is Cut version of the game! We cannot allow it to exist!
>>40031>Also sonic characters are cute and colorful.See? This. This is precisely the opposite of why I like Sonic. I guess it's the same with The Sims for me. Other fans like to roleplay and make characters and houses. I prefer to just fuck around with the game and mods and custom characters and shit. I don't actually roleplay or create anything, I just click on shit and see stuff happening and the numbers going up.
>>40032>Not everything has to be a bone tingling spine rumbling deep experience like DaS1 or metal gear.I mean, some Sonic games also have decent stories (better than mid plots of modern AAA games, that's for sure).
>>40036 (me)
You know, Forces exemplifies everything I don't like about Sonic. Boring gameplay, cheesy music and dialogue, simplistic story, annoying characters, terrible physics, visual downgrades and, last but not least, the OCs. And apparently there are still fans of this game. And I understand why. These fans are Sonic fans for completely different reasons from mine.
>>40317 (me)
Btw, this game truly deserves the title of a kids game, just like TTGO deserves its title of a kids cartoon. Many fans like to say Sonic is for all ages but I'm not sure why a grown-ass man who is not a fanboy would voluntarily play this game. I bet the kids' focus group was upset that Forces is as difficult as Generations so Sonic Team was like: "Okay, we're sorry. We'll make it so you don't even have to look at the screen to complete a level." That's how I imagine it in my head. Because there are no adult focus groups at Sonic Team. Heck, the reason why Frontiers' combat is not like in the mods is because children found it hard to combo and parry enemies and one of the kids literally started crying.
I mean, if Sonic Team's focus was to pander to children then I'm not sure how they expected everyone else to take their game seriously except for diehard fans. Like, bruh, you make a game that is specifically tailored to kids, what did you expect? I do not believe they wanted to make a good game, I refuse. This is a product to sell.
>>40327 (me)
It genuinely amazes me how in this game everything that could've gone wrong did go wrong except technical issues, the thing '06 and Boom were hated for the most.
>Writing? Sucks.>Gameplay? Sucks.>Controls? Suck.>Graphics? Suck.>Music? Sucks.>Replayability? Sucks.Everything except the technical issues is so bad that in order to fix this game it basically needs rework from the ground up, it's such a trainwreck. A beautiful trainwreck. I haven't seen a game that failed in so many aspects in a while. Yeah, '06 is still one of the worst Sonic games but if it wasn't for glitches, loading times, character redesigns, bad voice acting, goofy ahh animations, slow game speed and the kiss scene then it would have been leagues better than Forces. It would be at least decent. Even Lost World is better than Forces, that's not exactly a high bar to reach.
>>40508 (me)
>glitches, loading times, character redesigns, bad voice acting, goofy ahh animations, slow game speed and the kiss sceneYeah, it sounds like a lot but fixing '06 is like cleaning shit off of one's Jordans. Trying to fix Forces is like polishing a turd. Sure you can "fix" Forces but by that point is that even Forces really? Fixed Forces is the ship of Theseus basically.
>>40512>saying the music in forces sucks is just pure contrarianismNo, I hated it ever since the first gameplay trailers were revealed and never understood why the fans kept defending this. Ohtani is a great composer and Jun has made some of my most favorite tracks. But the synths they chose for Forces are trash and the vocal tracks are so painfully cheesy that they beat any other Sonic OST prior in the amount of cheese per minute. The only tracks I genuinely liked that I can recall are Casino Forest, the orchestral tracks, Ghost Town, Network Terminal, Justice, Fighting Onwards and the Episode Shadow remixes (that DLC is a better game anyway). That's kinda it. Forces' OST is one of the worst Sonic OSTs out there, beaten only by the likes of, I dunno, Sonic Genesis, Frontiers' OST is a giant improvement compared to it.
>the orchestral stuff gets a bit old sure but the techno is sickTo me it's the complete opposite: the orchestral tracks are decent (though not as memorable as Unleashed's score) but the """techno""" tracks are garbage and shouldn't be in the game. The score would've been much better if it was all orchestrated.
>i like "first bump" very muchYou mean the Edgy Mix, right?… Right?
>>40514>I unironically like infinite's theme,it's self-aware of how stupid-edgy it is but it still takes itself seriouslyIf only it was actually good.
>>40515>I hope infinite comes back in "sonic racing crossworlds".He's literally Coldsteel the Hedgehog but canon, he's basically everything bad about Shadow put into a blender. Even the Deadly Six are better characters, with how little character they have.
>>40521 (me)
I also like Arsenal Pyramid's interior theme but it cracks me up every time I listen to it since I associate it with Ricardo Milos throwing a fireball every time I listen to it, I can't. 🤣
>>40523 (me)
The first two Infinite's fights are fine too ig, though I'm not sure why the tempo's so slow. It's a Sonic game. Same for the track I mentioned above.
>>40523 (me)
I actually like Red Gate Bridge more now that I listened to it. The Arsenal Pyramid interior music is like… eh, whatever.
>>40592 (me)
What's your favorite voice actors for each character, guys? Japanese included.
>>40673 (me)
That and Forces Overclocked.
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