No.32005
>>32004Amy isn't even a playable character in SA2 (in 1P).
No.32014
>>32002https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/ghz-podcast/episodes/34-Writing-Sonic-Movie-2-w-PAT-CASEY-e1h9aoo51:52 - "I love Rouge the Bat! I'll answer that! When is she going to appear? I'm not sure but I love Rouge the bat and I'd love to get her into this franchise. I think she makes a great movie character. You can't trust her but she's charming. You think she's screwing you over but she has a heart of gold. That's what movies are made of. Classic femme-fetale! She's fun. She enjoys what she does. She kind of fills the same role as cat women. Though I guess Cat Woman is now a more explicit love interest for batman. Female fans need - we need some girl anthros. I fully agree. There's all kinds of girls. You've got your Mary-annes and Gingers. Mary Anne's like Amy but the Gingers need to see themselves represented as well. That's Rouge."
I'll continue believing.
No.32023
>>32000I'm going to be sad if there isn't a remix of Live & Learn somewhere in the movie.
No.32031
I wonder why Sega of America has changed the voice actors for Sonic characters like at least three times with Sega of Japan has kept the same voice actors all these decades. Wouldn't be surprised if it's some capitalist bullshit yet again.
No.32123
>>30166Because the game was bad. That's it. It's like when "critics" like a game they'll say the music is immersive but if they don't like the game then the music is actually "manipulative" or some shit.
Game journalism was at its absolute worst in that decade too.
No.32149
>>32031The reason's because the Japanese VAs are based and Sonic Team never managed to make a good English localization in the past,
INCLUDING THE SCRIPT ITSELF. It's obviously easier to shift the blame to voice actors, even though the 4Kids VAs were perfectly fine. Hell, some folks argue that Adventure's VAs would have been fine if it wasn't for the direction.
No.32150
>>30109True but in my case it's both. Sonic is like Duke Nukem. The protagonist is based the first games are based and both had their shittiest game in the mid-2000s. Both are viewed as "dated" and "were never good" according to journos.
No.32151
>>32149>Sonic Team never managed to make a good English localization in the past, INCLUDING THE SCRIPT ITSELF.What are the differences?
No.32152
>>32151The plot is the same but there was a lot of broken translation. Just look up the translation mod of SADX on YouTube.
It got worse with Colors, the English dialogue is completely fucken different, it's like Sonic Team hates the English language.
No.32154
>>32046Looks like Heroes but without the team formations.
No.32155
>>31166Sonic from mainline games would unironically be an eco-anarchist hippie, you can excuse his relationships with Elise as not actually being class collaborationist in nature, and SEGA says it didn't happen so it didn't happen.
Fleetway Sonic is way wilder, if anyone has a potential to go full anarchist insurrectionary it's him.
No.32156
>>32155And Fleetway's Super Sonic is an anarcho-Posadist.
No.32181
>>32155Nothing Sonic stands for is the norm in society we have failed him.
The reason so many people outside of the fandom (and some inside it) laugh at Sonic so much is to hide the pain of knowing that the things he stands for are so out of reach in our real lives.
No.32184
>>32151>>32152>JPTails: This was easier than I thought!
Sonic: You can say that again. It's thanks to you helping out with this and that.
Tails: Me? I guess so… It's true that because I remodeled the machine to understand the Wisps' language and asked what's going on, you didn't have to keep going back and forth… Uhh… you really were more awesome, Sonic!
Sonic: Thank you! Either way, we did great.
>ENTails: We did it, dude!
Sonic: We? I don't remember you fighting off any insane robots.
Tails: True. Well, good job to you on inventing a translator that allowed us to speak to the aliens and figure out exactly what we needed to do so we weren't running around the park looking like idiots. Oh no wait, that was me.
Sonic: Good point. Either way, we can get out of this crazy place and go home.
No.32188
>>32184>JPSonic: Tails, you're so based!
Tails: No, Sonic, you're more based then me.
Sonic: No, Tails, I insist.
>ENSonic: I'm so based.
Tails: I did half the work, you asshole.
Sonic: Pfft, whatever, I don't care.
No.32189
>>32183I'm honestly not sure if the SatAM can smoothly be added to the mainline's canon without reintroducing the problem of too many characters Archie Comics has suffered from. It's like adding them to Fleetway, there's simply no space for them unless you'll make them secondary characters or split the screentime between them and the rest of the cast which would be a nightmare in terms of writing a consistent story. Other characters like Shadow are already struggling with actually having good writing, albeit because of executive meddling.
No.32191
>>32189The problem with the SATAM cast is that you can't only add one or two characters, you have to add the whole gang or everyone is going to piss themselves over it. Afaik Flynn already confirmed characters like Nicole would have to be added in their original computer form so that's one down already.
>Other characters like Shadow are already struggling with actually having good writing, albeit because of executive meddling.Shadow is a cash cow so nobody can touch him.
No.32196
>>32189>>32191Fans need to understand the American side of Sonic media made these characters before Sonic Team created a bigger ensemble cast and Archie basically had to find some way to keep using it.
No.32204
>>32196Exactly, the only character other than Sonic, Eggman and Mecha Sonic in 1992 was Tails. That's it. Not much to work with.
No.32205
>>32204 (me)
Though seeing Mecha in any official media again would have been based NGL.
No.32206
>>32203I know the plot of SA2 but even I am confused.
No.32255
>>32191SA2 is the only Sonic game where Shadow had an actual personality. Every game appearance since them has him just being serious and brooding. At least SA2 Shadow could actually smile (or smirk) and crack a joke.
No.32282
>>32275>If you still have a twitter accountlol, no.
No.32283
>>32255Heroes and Battle's Shadow was still good and ShTH's Shadow was not as bad as people think, the modern Shadow is a pastiche of his evil route. I don't think Shadow became worse of a character just because he got a pistol and a motorcycle (the awkward swears were still funny, though him swearing while dying is more fitting).
No.32308
>>32275Who the fuck votes for Cream. Absolute bores.
No.32315
>>32308We need a Babysitting Cream sequel
No.32324
>>29507Not sure how Zoroark is less furry that Lopunny, this thing is covered in fur and shit.
>>32308>Who the fuck votes for CreamPeople who have a trash taste.
>>32321Prof. Pickle needs his own anime.
No.32355
>>32344Generic cuteness is unremarkable, though I like the fact that she's a rabbit and fights with the help of Cheese, that's creative. All-in-all, I'd prefer her to Big.
No.32376
>>29493That checklist is so BS, zoophiles are obviously not attracted to low intelligence, this is more of an ethical form of zoophilia. For you to be considered a furry fan the creature must be physically anthropomorphic also, otherwise you just validate the stereotypes conservatives have about the furry fandom.
No.32384
>>32376uygha really scrolled up hundreds of posts to reply to a 4-month old post to start some moralist discussion like we havent enough of those
No.32386
>>32046I played through Dream Team and the game has really grown on me. I've gotten used to the touch controls enough to where they don't really hamper anything and the levels have gotten better as the game has progressed. The game put all its points into gameplay and presentation, the story's basic, the music's forgettable and the voice acting is bad, but it's a worthwhile trade for the best playing 3D Sonic game in at least a decade.
Since they're both mostly collectathons, it's going to be compared to Frontiers a lot and Dream Team blows Frontiers out of the water in terms of level design and gameplay.
I have gotten a few slowdowns and weird bugs, but those are probably a result of me using an older iPhone more than anything being wrong with the game itself.
No.32387
>>32323Just wait another year or two for another fun SOL issue instead of boring generic melodrama… if IDW doesn't go bankrupt before.
No.32390
>>32275I hope they honor the results.
>>32322Jewel should've been a student/assistant to Professor Pickle instead of this "resistance" crap. Oh well.
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