No.32047
Reactionary politics have always been present n vidya. But It would not be surprising if the recent shifts in the geopolitical world are causing an uptick in weird reactionary slop. I would also like to bring attention to the fact that eastern european nations don’t really export games, so it wouldn’t be a surprise if the ones that manage to get published and gain some popularity appeal to the politics in the western europe and united states.
No.32111
>>32047Since its releasing with full English, French and German audio, it's absolutely being made with a foreign audience in mind.
No.32158
>>32049>freedomI hope Makhno will kill every rightoid who was misusing that word with tachanka from the sky.
FREEDOM MEANS INDIVIDUAL AUTONOMY AND CLASS LIBERATION, NOT ANTI-COMMUNISM. No.32509
>>32048this, I had hoped for a train based game during the russian civil war with good writing and hard moral choices, multiple competing faction, strategical decisions on the world map and tactical combat, interesting historical tidbits, and we get this absolute reactionary crap
sad, what are the russians waiting for to make good games in the russian civil war setting
No.32512
>>32506There is even better part where you kill the red army training camp and the supposed families of those recruits said "it's okay that you killed them, reds would have killed them anyway".
>>32509>sad, what are the russians waiting for to make good games in the russian civil war settingKEK. Have you seen any russian movie made in the last 3 decades that even touches the subject of USSR, much less WWII or October Revolution and Civil War? They are even more anticommunist than this game.
No.32590
>>32513this is the shit i think of every day
yeah I love him, gf warned me he became very cringe tho.
Still, he was part in some of the best movies. The Dawns Here Are Quite even
No.32594
>>32506>literal kulak simulatorMan I thought this shit game was about escaping the nazi blitzkrieg in ww2 or some shit wtf
>in the name of leninDamn straight, fucking kulaks man, do they think lenin is personally gonna eat all the grain?
No.32606
>>32594>Man I thought this shit game was about escaping the nazi blitzkrieg in ww2 or some shit wtfMaybe you are thinking of Partisans 1941?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1227530/Partisans_1941/ No.32608
>>32513it sucks how revisionism hides this. he probably was always like this, but now that the revisionist era is gone and russia is openly capitalist, he can voice his reactionary opinions. this is why they hated stalin, comrade stalin and the anti-revisionist bloc would have re-educated him.
No.32638
>>32049it's funny that this is the same devteam as the hitman series, which has pretty much always had weirdly good politics
No.32712
>>32638>Hitman>Kane & Lynch>good politicsUhhhh
No.32715
>>32712Hitman 1 2 and 3 (the new ones) primarily has you killing corrupt CEOs and other evil people that are never punished by society, dunno if I would really call it 'good politics' but yeah
No.32716
>>32158>FREEDOM MEANS INDIVIDUAL AUTONOMY AND CLASS LIBERATION, NOT ANTI-COMMUNISM.yeah, and some people will use that freedom to be anti-communist.
No.33678
They're releasing a DLC where you fight with the fucking White Army lmao
No.33689
>>33680Let's be real: this is just American pop culture but honest. Behind all those "good vs evil" plots there's that liberal ideology that designates any radical as "le ebil extremist." And then people expect me to take morality seriously.
>My ideology is superior to yours because I'm a good guy according to my own ideology. No.33690
>>32716>yeah, and some people will use that freedom to be anti-communist.That's not the point.
No.33696
Just play Partisan 1941. Much better and more accurate to history.
No.33697
>>32715Now that I think about it… putting aside the fact that you're some profit hungry merc. Murdering corrupt bougies is pretty fun
No.33698
>>33697>profit hungry mercTo be fair, he was quite litterally engineered to be a contract killer. And even then, he still attempted to quit his job and live a quiet life in Hitman 2 (2002)
No.33699
>>33697>Hitman>profit hungry mercDid you even play the games? Any of them? Or did you get it confused with Mercenaries 2?
No.33700
>>3369747 isn't profit-hungry, he just kills people because "It's just mah job, bruh. I'm very good at my job and nothing else." He's not that different from a CIA agent, which actually makes him more of a classcuck than profit-hungry, Of course in Hitman Absolution he rebels against the goberment but this game was kinda poorly written.
>mercNot exactly. He's a federal agent pretty much, he'll be dead if he betrays the glowies (which almost happened in Absolutiom).
No.33707
>>33700>pretty muchSuch is the life of a literal clone.
No.33708
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1712390/Martial_Law/Polish game about how communism is depressing and grey and finding some fruit to feed your family was a life-changing quest. Steam curator review: "The trauma of growing up in communist Poland makes me literally shake rn y'all!"
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2672860/Famine_Way/Also, get hyped for a walking simulator about how bolsheviks ate all the Ukrainian grain in the name of Lenin.
>>32509>sad, what are the russians waiting for to make good games in the russian civil war settingUnfortunately most Russians working in IT or dev are liberals, and those who aren't would rather stick to safe topics like WW2 or they will get hounded. The government also won't touch the civil war with a 10 ft pole because it's so "divisive". Which fucking sucks because something like Mount & Blade or Battle Brothers based on RCW would've been perfect.
No.33709
>>32044please….i just want media about cool historical events that aren't revisionist or pushing propaganda
please…
No.33710
>>33709You mean like Company of Heroes 2? :D
?? :DD
No.33714
>>33709That implies that all media isn't political (not in a sense radlibs use the phrase though).
I too wish all media was just Stirnerites destroying spooked people with facts and logic but other people don't seem to think this is a cool idea for some reason. Like, why would you do the opposite of that? Genuinely no clue.
No.33715
>>33709all media pushes a narrative and is biased, what you want (and I want also) is media that has the same biases as I do, because I'm RIGHT
No.33746
>>33708>The government also won't touch the civil war with a 10 ft pole because it's so "divisive".It doesn't shy from touching the subject. It just takes the whiteguard side all the time. But yeah, it's not as popular as making another movie about great patriotic war and how nazis were better than bolsheviks on taxpayers money.
No.33750
>>33709have you tried Mosfilm
No.33770
>>32044>Has there been an uptick in anti-communist games/crypto-ethnonationalist anti-Russian ethnic grievance games coming out of former eastern bloc countries recently?no the trend really peaked in the later 2010s and been pretty steadily churning it out since.
homefront shit its pants and downgraded the chinese as the antagonists to fucking koreans.
No.33774
>>33772>X-com 2 is anti-communistpossibly more anti-posadist
>>33773there is dialogue at the base where it is questioned why humanity is very fond of the aliens. then it is brought up the aliens established advanced/free healthcare, sciences, global stability, and famines are but a memory. bradford counters saying freedom is better than all that and this is before they know what aliens are up to(americunt antimaterialism whatdoyou know).
the aliens are put in the same anticommunist propaganda where it turns out they are genociding humanity,basically copying from Black Book of Communism
No.33776
>>33708LMAO
From the discussion page on the second game:
No.33791
>>33774>>33773Ah, so it's just Amerivibes, which are inherently anti-communist. Thought it was something specific.
No.33978
>>33771Keep in mind, that's fight
with, not fight
against.
It's historically accurate because that's exactly what the Czechoslovak Legion did, but you'd think they'd try to avoid that topic or do another historical revisionism.
No.33981
>>33774What does freedom mean by this point?
>"I liberated all the peasants and gave them all the land so they can rely on themselves."<"Freedom is more important than that." No.34005
Is Atomic Heart Anti-Communist because the setting of the game isn't le perfect utopian shiny Soviet Utopia?
No.34018
>>34005I think the point of AH is "it
is le perfect utopian shiny Soviet Utopia, but LE HORRORS LURK UNDERNEATH!!". Sort of like Bioshock with its failed rightoid utopias. So, kind of lowkey anticommunist.
Also iirc the earlier version of the script didn't have the Brown Plague, the USSR just lost 100 million people in le human waves and subsequently needed robots to replace the casualties.
Though none of that really matters when it has the best Soviet aesthetics of any video game that actually acknowledge socialism can be constructive
No.34019
>>34018>Though none of that really matters when it has the best Soviet aesthetics of any video game"Best", but still very meh. Especially for people who actualy know what USSR looked like.
No.34024
>>34019>>34019>people who actualy know what USSR looked like.>anon is a time travelereat shit
No.34025
>>33708requesting someone make a game about Stalin's Big Spoon
No.34026
>>34005>>34018I mean is that necessarily anti communist or more simply anti Soviet Union?
No.34033
>>34018Can you even play this game without a VM? It was caught doing some malware shit behind people's backs (yeah, imagine still trusting proprietary games after that).
No.34035
>>33709Steel Division 2 made Wehraboos seethe because its an accurate reconstruction of the belligerent armies on the Eastern Front in 1944, i.e. most Soviet divisions are better equipped and more formidable than their German counterparts, German divisions got like 2 Tigers per deck, etc. There was a twitter thread about it posted in the /ukraine/ thread but it got cycled.
No.34062
>>34035Is it the same one with strong penal battalions? I just remembered that I wanted to check it out but I can't find the post that mentioned it anymore, probably because it was cycled.
No.34063
>>34062Was it from the Ukraine thread, by any chance? If so, yes, that's what was said.
No.34065
>>34063Could be, I don't remember what exact thread, to be honest. I'm gonna check it out anyway, thanks.
No.34069
>>34026>>34005>>34018As far as I'm aware, Atomic Heart isn't anti-communist. It's set up in a genuine Soviet utopia, and the dark secret behind that utopia has nothing to do with communism. It's really not like Bioshock where Rapture fell
specifically because it was an Ayn Rand ancap paradise. The dedication to their ultra-individualist and Objectivist ancap bullshit meant that there was no regulation around development of the addictive, genetics-altering, insanity-inducing combat drugs, and the fact that most of the people moving there thinking they were going to be the next big celebrity or captain of industry only to realize that most people need to be normal workers even in an Objectivist ancap society and were thrown into hellish ancap slums and sweatshops meant there was a big divide in society ripe for someone like Fontaine to take advantage of. With Atomic Heart, the dark secret behind the utopia sort of begins and ends with "mad scientist."
No.34072
>>34067The frequency with which France actually embraces jingoism is disconcerting. Maybe some railroading is needed.
No.34076
>>34072The fact that everything feels completely random in victoria 3 makes the game much less enjoyable them other paradox titles i will admit
No.34081
>>34076That's all early Paradox titles. I'll tell the devs to ditch the obsolete "rivals" system they implemented from EU.
No.34201
>>34200
I was really excited to hear that the robo lesbians were Communist until you get into the game and oh great it's stasi barrack communism again awesome
No.34203
>>34202
>Funny thing is, a horror game in an honest and accurate communist setting wouldn't be realistic, since such systems would be too competent in dealing with such threats
like chernobyl??
No.34205
>>34203Chernobyl was mainly caused by Gorbachev's economic sabotage through liberalisation, which forced power plants to run over their designed capacity, pushing them to violate safety regulations to meet targets. Without it, it would have never happened. Despite it, the disaster response was pretty good, especially compared to Fokushima, which happened decades later.
No.34206
>>34203evacuating 90% of the population in less than a day and having thousands of men and women show up to help in the clean up efforts by their own free will was a pretty good response if ya ask me
No.34421
>>34418At first I thought it was just a bad timeline or something, and we'd have to prevent it from happening somehow, but no, the people fighting against a racist apartheid state are once again just blood thirsty murderers.
No.34423
>>34418Daisy should have just told her supporters to voot Comstock out of office
No.34425
>>34024anon amazed that people over 45 can be real
No.34427
>>34426well shit guess i gotta execute my dad by firing squad for his crimes of being almost 60
No.34428
>>34427He ismprobably a 30 year old boomer. Can't believe you fell for that.
No.34726
>>34418 (me)
Ok so I just finished the Burial at the Sea DLC and I found the "umm ackshually Daisy didn't want to kill the child, she was just baiting Elizabeth into becoming a killer because uhhh… reasons!" retcon to be unbelievably pathetic and a complete pussy move by the writers most likely due to the
backlash they got. Like they're so unprincipled they couldn't even commit commit to the unprincipled centrist bit!
No.34728
I think America's Army, the american propoganda game should count among them. From what I heard it wasn't that bad of a game but in the end it's still state funded propaganda from the literal government.
No.34730
>>34728To be fair, any shooter game featuring the US Army as good guys could be considered American propaganda… even if it's made by a non-US developper, such as the Arma series (including the original Operation Flashpoint).
Like, OFP had you play the heroic 'Muricans who do nothing wrong against the eeeeviiil rogue Soviet troops. Arma 1 bad guys? Communists. Arma 2 bad guys? Communists with support from le Russians.
No.34732
>>34730Besides WW2 shooters, I think. Taking it out of context and not talking about what happened in Japan, the allied tropes were pretty definitely the good guys of that war.
No.34733
>>34732Yeah, you're right. I was mostly thinking about games set during or after the Cold War. Still, some WW2 games manage to depict the USSR pretty negatively, such as Company of Heroes 2
No.34740
>>34739peak amerikkkan vidya. Does anyone remember when people were making fun of N Koreans for having a video game where you killed US troops? It’s kind of insane that US has somehow managed to monopolise the idea of killing your enemies in your media without looking like a nation full of bugmen psychos.
No.34741
Crysis 1 was jingoistic and pro american, and had north koreans as enemy troops besides the aliens.
No.34744
>>34741Crysis was a graphics test, and literally nobody remembers the game's "plot".
All mention of "north koreans" as enemies is because game devs are too pussy to use China, like they really want to.
No.34745
>>34739I played that when it was in early access lol, it's a piece of garbage but I actually enjoy the music a lot even though it's by some polish fascist, look up the OST if you like electronic music
No.34746
>>34744I mean it's not exactly being too pussy but that China is a potential market. But yes I mentally switch out North Korea with China in all games like this as that is obviously the intention.
Especially absurd is the Homefront series, you might wonder how the hell North Korea could win a war against the US, but the main cinematic makes it clear that they first annexed South Korea (ok, somewhat plausible), and then… China, a country which is like 50x larger in population and size. They don't even change the flag, it's still just the North Korean flag. God there's so many games with flat out retarded lore out there.
No.34747
>>34746>there is a market for an American WOLVERINES! propaganda in ChinaUh-huh. Titles that avert their eyes from China are not true anti-communist games. They are the "perm locked in chastity" cucks of anti-communist games.
No.34749
>>34746>I mean it's not exactly being too pussy but that China is a potential marketYes. Capital-driven cowardise. If you want to make China the enemy but don't because your boss wants Chinese people to like your game, you're collectively pussying out of your artistic vision.
No.34751
>>34747Not everyone has ideology-brain, there's millions of gamers that just want to play fun games. I've played schizo Ameribrain games and liked them and communist games and disliked them.
>>34749Ok fair, I guess it's a fine distinction, you can definitely call it cowardice.
No.34753
>>34751>Ok fair, I guess it's a fine distinction, you can definitely call it cowardice.And to clarify, I'm not saying that it's something they have
much influence over without seriously risking their jobs or getting into legal trouble. Capitalism, yadda yadda. But they're still getting punked.
No.34754
>>34751>and [played] communist games and disliked them.B-BUT WE WERE THE CHAD AND THEY WERE THE SOYJAK! HOW COULD THIS BE?
No.34758
>>34751Literally name 3 (three) communist games other than Disco Elysium and Night in the Woods.
No.34759
>>34758>Disco Elysium and Night in the Woods.Lol wut.
No.34778
>>34758Everything by Kremlingames, Suzerain, Tooth and Tail, Deus Ex + IW, Mother Russia Bleeds.
No.34792
>>34758>other than Disco Elysium and Night in the WoodsNot frothing-at-the-mouth reactionary ≠ communist.
No.34793
>>34792>>34759have you even played them?
No.34798
>>34793As much as I appreciate Scott Benson and his (timid) writing contribution, Night in the Woods is barely socialist. Outside of Droz there is very little communist in or about Disco Elysium.
Different Anon from the other two heels. (glow ipso facto)
No.34847
>>34798I can understand NitW but saying that about DE is just plain stupid.
No.34934
>>34799>>34847Idle words. Prove me wrong.
You can't, because you know I'm right.
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