Operation Deep Sneed edition
Made a new thread since the other one is full. You know the drill folks, gather here to discuss and/or complain about Hearts of Iron 4 and all the alt history mods that make the game relevant. From green natpops to sicko mode Savinkov we've got a lot of exciting stuff coming in the next Kaiserreich update, one which will make the LKMT look like pre-rework Germany by comparison. But dont worry TNOomers, you're getting some new content too! After a year and a half and three focus trees that only last for four years, we finally have something new and that's…
…three years of fucking Antarctica
513 posts and 219 image replies omitted.>>45162Bruh, what does the sub-ideology description say for European Pan-Africanism lmao
>>45163>European Pan-Africanism, or Colonial Pan-Africanism as it is called by one of its main creators Jan Smuts, is an imperialist ideology that aims to unite swathes of Africa, or all of it, under White rule. First popularized in South Africa by Jan Smuts and certain Afrikaner labour groups, European Pan-Africanism as defined by Smuts initially called for the cooperation of colonial states across the Southern African colonies of Britain, Portugal, and Belgium in equal partnership with no official political alignment despite Smuts’ own Liberal Conservatism, but has since evolved, with certain strains calling for the total unification of these lands and possibly all of the wider continent under one Socialist - but still White chauvinistic - nation state that abandons the colonial mentality in order to rise to true statehood on equal footing with the titans of Europe while heavily encouraging White settlement en masse, as theorized by Jean and Albert Decoster in the Congo. An ideological personification of the White Man’s Burden and Cecil Rhodes’ efforts that varies between Leftist strains in the Congo and more conservative strains in South Africa, European Pan-Africanism is a strange ideology newly forged in the fires still left burning since the Scramble for Africa that above all seeks to bring law, order, and elevated social status to the colonials currently languishing away across the Dark Continent >>45162eurocommunism be like.
China lead for the tfr mod was arrested and now the chinese team has dissolved itself…..
>>45290I heard TFR's devs were going to recruit taiwanese modders now.
>>45291>taiwanesethe chinese gov shot itself in the foot, in this instance. Its minor but still
>>45290my suspections lies on the depictions of certain paths like the han nationalist or the neoconfucian revanchist paths, althrough some people are bashing "china glazing tankies"
also what the fuck is wrong with those dengoids arresting hoi4 modders
>>45293it was probably something involving the lead dev in particular, rather than a group thing since there weren't any other detainments, with the rest of the dev team leaving in the hopes they aren't seen as guilty by association
>>45293probably a tax evader or some shit like that
>>45294>with the rest of the dev team leaving in the hopes they aren't seen as guilty by associationSome people wrote about how they left under threat of cease and desist, so definitively more people would have been arrested if they did not abandoned the dev team.
I do not know which they unironically sent a letter demanding to end the development or which is true or not, or if they left due to collective will
>>45293They are wreckers tbh, the content should be removed .
>>45301I'm starting to think that the more poltical side of hoi overhaul mods is made by glowies as psyop. Hoi only has 30k players on average and only a fraction of them play overhaul mods, yet I constantly see references of TFR, TNO or KR on social media, whether it is profile pictures, account names, or random memes out of nowhere. Its as if it is psyop pushed by glowies.
>>45301>>45308 (me)
Like why do both Pavlou and Gunther suddenly care about hoi?
>>45308you're seeing content related to these hoi4 mods on social media because their algorithms have correctly identified that you are interested in hoi4, and are recommending hoi4 related content to you to increase retention. you don't need glowies to explain this
>>45309>why do two terminally online internet personalities suddenly care about a new terminally online piece of internet drama? >>45313Erm, critical support to chairman Mosley against revisionist French syndicalists i guess?
>>45293>>45297from looking at zhihu and tieba, young people who found the mod spammed tiktok with stuff related to the china collapse that happens when you lose the GAW, while using a euphemism (中超联赛) that meant it showed up constantly if you were searching for unrelated sport content. obviously this seemed like an attempt to promote separatism to people who'd never heard of hoi4 before, and the authorities got contacted. overall most of the comments ive seen are pretty glad its been taken down due to drama between submods (the biggest chinese language TFR submod has also indefinitely shutdown to avoid the crackdown) and because people see it as having a pro-japan bias that was built over time to appease western players.
>>45313hopefully this one's better than kalterkrieg, assuming its ever released
>>45321Hopefully they add some content this time.
>>45322>>45293>even when sub mod does the most sucking off they still get the authoritieschinese nationalist weebs r big gay
the fire is rising
>>42436It is a communist nation in OWB, ruled by the peoples ideology, that provides free healthcare and housing, forgives past enemies, and is not just a copy of the most blatant anti-communist propaganda or some weird 1984 "death of stalin" imitator (cof cof strathcommune).
>>45459 (me)
OWB predicted a president of a imperialist nation being a massive groomer, just mistook the ideology and nation.
(And yes, Teresse literally abducts children from their parents to create a "cult of personality" in the mod, to make her personal body guard. The developers admit that Strathcommune is just straight up evil, top to bottom.).
>>45460 (me)
At least Loid minister is "nicer" and not straight up comically evil villains.
>>45461I like the evil paths because sometimes I want to be some ridiculous communist caricature
>>44327Played a submod that gives full content for japan and revolutionary china. did not get past reunification and the inevitable war with russia tbh but it is a REALLY fun mod
Vanilla hoi4 ( and so the mods which do not override vanilla stats ) is kinda dead atp because they set the organization dmg of cas 3x of what it was before with the new dlc ( cas dmg & air superioity were already a very opressive combo ), to a point where you can't really push your enemy unless you force attack your best divisions with a camouflage expert general as otherwise you'd run out of org so fast.
It is also worth to note that tank divisions have low org and they stay in the battle long enough just because they have breakthrough, but as cas is so broken now, a simple infantry division can hold the best tank div for just enough time that the org of the tank div will run out due to cas. ( because breakthrough do not affect the organization damage that cas deals to your attacking division, it only affects the org/hp damage enemy divisions deal. )
It is not very fun to see that the air war alone decides the course of any war and battles feel so railroaded now ( win the air - win the game ), fronts are not dynamic, one side collapses in entirety.
>>45556Why did they do that?
>>45315>>45313In the UoB rework, Mosley is
THE ONE DOING the revisionism. I can't wait for the third international rework to come out.
[Images are of the UOB dev on the Kaiserreich discord]
Daydream in Black is dead
Not surprised though
>>45596Don't recall hearing of them, what was that mod about and why'd they collapse?
>>45606Also the federalists in the us lost so the country is much more confederal. Mythical landmasses like Atlantis and others are real and have been colonized by powers such as Atlantis being a us state.
But it seemed like the group was full of idea guys. I went on their collective discord and every team had multiple mods in development
>>45469tried it out after seeing this and damn you were right (liberte ou la mort). stuck in siberia rn due to bad supply and fuel problems but so far its really good, has content for other countries like italy, ottomans and arabia too. tbh chinese mods are really underrated due to the translation issue, and chinese teams in major mods often make the most engaging parts (see TFR). i remember there being a pretty good submod for KR with a bunch of content for syndie france too
speaking of TFR, it seems the reason that the chinese dev team got shut down has to do with some incredibly inane submod drama. basically, an anime submod got made for tfr called "the bandori dream", after which an "improved" edition was made by another guy (a submod of a submod). this improved edition was unauthorised by the original developers, so they filed a DMCA claim against the dev which briefly got it taken down from the workshop. the developer responded to this by rage-reporting
every major chinese dev team to the ministry of state security. even though it seems like the authorities only really cared about TFR due to the 2nd civil war stuff, this explains why all the other chinese dev teams are so reluctant to do anything, now that they're on the government's radar and potentially shitlist.
>>38136HOI III veteran here. I never played the 4th, what is the difference? Is it better?
>>45610>the bandori dream>BanG Dream!Chinese weebs r gay
>a submod of a submodif it was just a basic submod like "TFR+" then the OG submods dev are overreacting to a submod, when the OG submod was
also unauthorised by BanG Dream!, hoi4 devs or (most likely) unauthorised by the TFR devs, while using copyright characters; unless if the mod of the submod dev was doing something nasty and the og submod devs didn't want to be a part of, claiming they were the ones that made the og submod or code then there's not much a reason for a DMCA.
the mod of the submod dev is still big gay, but the the DMCA is also big gay.
>>45663Is this just a WWII mod? The base game is already wwii
>>45663it seems like this guy is trying use a false dichotomy between expansion and revising old content to explain why tno and tgwr aren't good. although he tries to say that kaiserreich doesn't fit into his definition of "revisionism" because there are still core component like the second american civil war that have been left unchanged, the past 5 years of kaiserreich development have almost exclusively been reworks and revisions of existing content, which has included the removal of certain paths that people liked. the reason people still like kaiserreich though, is because these reworks add new content, and are more often than not better than what they're replacing. in the case of TNO however, the reworks swap out already existing focus trees with skeleton content and leave the game emptier than it was before.
the same problem applies to the great war mod. the problem isn't that stuff like backstabbing austria was removed, its that what replaces it is a pretty bloated focus tree that tries to disguise the fact that there's only really one path you can go down, assuming you don't lose the war. that and the reichstag and bundesrat mechanics which don't really add anything.
as for political issues with the dev team, it's inevitable that any hearts of iron 4 mod is going to come with some kind of political statement, as hearts of iron 4 is by nature an inherently political game. the issue isn't even that they're le toonkies or whatever, since red dusk is a mod that's pretty openly run by MLs (especially obvious when playing as a conservative USSR) and doesn't have the same problem. its moreso the mass bans and other inane drama that seems to be the issue.
>>45663he made up some rome words by changing the terms like "revisionism" when it meant historically revision of history.
also this video is a nothingburger he is assmad that TGWX devs have political opinions that dont often share his (muh holodomor denial) or (muh amerikkka bad). there still is some things to gather, which is often how some hoi4 modding communities are BAN HAPPY, both on reddit or on discord, but all i see is someone defending the slop of brittany focus tree for hoi4 TNO instead of how devs direct their efforts and remove content due to dev team disputes
>>45668>the reason people still like kaiserreich though, is because these reworks add new content, and are more often than not better than what they're replacing. in the case of TNO however, the reworks swap out already existing focus trees with skeleton content and leave the game emptier than it was before.
>the same problem applies to the great war mod. the problem isn't that stuff like backstabbing austria was removed, its that what replaces it is a pretty bloated focus tree that tries to disguise the fact that there's only really one path you can go down, assuming you don't lose the war.Thanks for adressing that, i do not think often youtubers when complaining about mods ever adress kaiserreich and stuff, for example, TNO released one of biggest updates in brazil but if you see, the mod is fully incomplete and i see developer priorities are not weeelll good, they are much more worried to rework the fucking US OF ALL COUNTRIES. here is aiming to rework iberia and germany, but the mod is incomplete as also how britain is fully incomplete since 2023. but most of videos seem more to adress the loss of atlantropa and stuff
also played hoi4 KR commune rework submod and managed to liberate the US and canada from entente imperialism, now it is time to do a crusade agaisnt savinkovism, screenshots coming later
>>45663The lead dev seems to be larping as a right-SPD Menshevik or smth lol
>>45664it's a WWI mod.
>>45669I had a temp reddit accout to post in TNO sub and I was banned for promoting nazism just because I stated the state of directions of the Nazi Germany which is to either "liberalize" or stay status quo then collapse are too narrow (and maybe Goebbels should given an unique path), and afterwards when I wrote an apology&appeal letter they just ignored it. 😞
>>45663this guy has such a dumb dweeb accent lol
fuckin imperialist shit
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