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Operation Deep Sneed edition

Made a new thread since the other one is full. You know the drill folks, gather here to discuss and/or complain about Hearts of Iron 4 and all the alt history mods that make the game relevant. From green natpops to sicko mode Savinkov we've got a lot of exciting stuff coming in the next Kaiserreich update, one which will make the LKMT look like pre-rework Germany by comparison. But dont worry TNOomers, you're getting some new content too! After a year and a half and three focus trees that only last for four years, we finally have something new and that's…

…three years of fucking Antarctica
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>>43197
>ukraine won't collapse to the massive slavery and the unrest from the reich losing their minds
>hitler won't be assasinated because unrest would misteriously stop after 20 years.
>alquaeda ?, never heard of them.
this mod is straight up garbage in everyway now, and TNO wasn't that good, only unique.

>>43198
It's amazing how almost every change since release was making things worse (except for when entirely new countries like Guangdong were added)

>>43197
>realistically
If they go this route Russia is not going to have any warlord states

>>43197
>>43191
Oh god oh fuck I'm gonna rewOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORK

New Kaiserrech update dropped a few days ago, they changed up the names of the USA civil war participants

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>>43237
The devs also accidentally rolled the Worst Flag Ever for the Syndicalists

>>43239
I could not believe that was the flag. No one on earth would pick this shit. How did they go from the old IWW CSA flag to that?

"You is supposed to be one of us…. not join them"
Foster's USSAR playthrough, aka how despite the fall of communism in russia, the warsaw pact managed to get the grasp of victory in a position of collapse, and how the enemy of proletariat become the friend of communism, saving europe from duginist doom

>>43249
Follow-up post: second russian civil war

what is your opinions on those lore and world

homo

>>43250
Is this TFR? I thought Putin is unalived in that one at that point.

>>43254
No, it's a mod called red world where it's a "What if the USSR won the cold war" though it's a community ran mod as the guy who originally made it died a few years ago, also had a YouTube channel, but all his vids have been deleted for whatever reason

>>43258
Oh I remember Red World, that's the one with the dictator Bernie route

>>43258
shame it's the only "If the USSR won the cold war" mod.

Vote Pig officially announced at last, coming out in… late 2026. (actually probably 2028)


>>43306
TNO america rework

>>43309
Are they going to remove the election mechanics and every candidate that isn't r-d or something?

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Cold war mod update coming soon
We will get DDR kino

>>43310
Election mechanics are being made more in-depth, as are congress mechanics with individual senators simulated, npp removed and most of it's candidates returned to either the dems or gop which are separate again. The dems have 3 factions, the gop has 2.
New lore has fdr not run for a third term, but also the new deal goes further and america has a corporatist economy now. Nixon and JFK are no longer railroaded failures.

>>43323
This is gonna be fun

>>43325
Oh not bad but I thought FDR died in the timeline?

>>43303
What 'bout Penelope's Web, is there any annoucements about it..

>>43325
>New lore has fdr not run for a third term, but also the new deal goes further and america has a corporatist economy now.

Wth, based FDR ??:O
So is the US economy now supposed to be state-regulated & semi-nationalized at a similar extend with the Fascist Italy?
FDR planned economy path when

>>43341 (me)
>FDR planned economy path when

Uhh, just realized he would be probably dead judging he died in 1945 otl.

>>43325
What's the status of Yockey and Hall?

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>>43332
Is there a timeline where FDR doesn't die?
>>43341
>What 'bout Penelope's Web, is there any annoucements about it..
nope, ten thousand more years in rework and team collapse hell
>So is the US economy now supposed to be state-regulated & semi-nationalized at a similar extend with the Fascist Italy?
Not as much as italy but substantially more than irl.
>>43343
Not officially declared but given this rework is almost entirely in line with the vote pig proposal that was leaked, it's safe to say Yockey (thankfully) gone, Hall (inexplicably) still in.

>>43345
>Hall (inexplicabely) still in
The rework is good in comparison to what they did to the reichskomissariats which is borderline nazi propaganda, but can you explain stuff about hall?

>>43346
>can you explain stuff about hall?
In the proposal if the US player fucks everything up as both the dems and the GOP, and you have the dem and gop primaries both pick unpopular right-wing candidates Hall will run for president in 1972 on a CPUSA protest vote campaign which will pick up steam and cause a contingent election. This will cause a deadlock ultimately leading congress to inexplicably vote for Hall to be president as an intentional lame duck.
He will have no control over his cabinet, unable to pass any bills and generally be totally alone and under threat of immediate impeachment if he steps out of line. It's supposedly meant to be some kind of 'single man against the establishment' david and goliath story idk, it seems silly and motivated exclusively by a desire to retain Hall from the old content.

Aside from the fact that there is no reason for Hall to be CPUSA leader aside from lazy OTLism (the reason he was included in the first place) with leaders like Lovestone and Gitlow who were purged irl over siding with the right opposition being able to stay in charge. The devs reasoning now is that in the new soviet lore the Bukharin-Stalin duumvirate had Stalin responsible for foreign affairs and presumably the Comintern, which doesn't make much sense and still doesn't justify Bukharinists like Lovestone and Gitlow being replaced in the CPUSA leadership. And even beyond that if we admit the lazy decision to have communist parties develop in the same way they did irl because apparently Stalin is in charge and making the same personnel choices, with the USSR losing the war there's no reason for Browder to be purged and replaced, so Hall makes little sense either way, he was a product of the very specific moscow-tailing CPUSA that emerged post-ww2 with the red scare and the cold war. No justification to keep him in except as a holdover and because presumably someone on the dev team read some biography of Hall and was involved in making the Hall campaign trail scenario and has an undue fascination with him + sunk cost.

Alas, going to have to wait for Red Order to release some day for a more genuine attempt to imagine an alt-history international communist movement.

>>43323
>>43356
>>43345
>>43341
I'm still waiting for TNO to add Ulrike Meinho

>>43358
Who even got rid of her and the DSR anyway, was it Pink Panzer of the team thay took over after he stepped down?

Alas, there was a couple of attempts to bring her into the mod, but for whatever reason, they both collapsed, and only one of them saw a release, didn't get a chance to play it, but from what i saw of from a couple of HoI IV YouTubers, did seem like a pretty fun submod

>>43359
>only one of them saw a release
all i could find was:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2909300709
and sadly she's was only a general.

HOI4 is the worst mod for cold war game, i despise games like cold war : iron curtain or TNO, or millenium dawn in mechanics.
Fuckers, if you want a geopolitical simulator or something port your shit mod to victoria 3, i am not playing a mod/game that severely restricts my roleplay perspectives for a visual novel that has absolutely incomplete content that will never get complete, for example cold war iron curtain not having content for half of nations.
Victoria 3 and 2 already exists!!!

>>43391
Victoria don't attract as much because of their gameplay, wished there were a fusion between victoria and Hoi4.
>roleplay perspectives for a visual novel
people seem to like the more visual nove aspect of nations in Hoi4, in victoria there is not much flavor difference between nations of the same development level.

This is the best Mod Menu theme yet.

>>43393
Nah march on the drina was the best

>>43392
>wished there were a fusion between victoria and Hoi4
Yep, Paradox fumbled tech and army management for Vic3, should've just copypasted the war system of Hoi4 and the tech system of Vic2

>>43395
idk if nostalgia is blinding me but the war system of victoria 2 isn't that bad. combat width expanding with tech means you get the transition from napoleonic era grand battles to ww1-style trench warfare, but only in multiplayer since the ai is shit and throws everything at you at once instead of cycling.

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we did it, we did it die linke, european democracy is saved!

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The wholesome chungus ending for Russia0

>>43396
the entire combat width system is shit anyways tbh, terrain should just generally give a combat modifier that lowers offense and increases defense (ala CK3). but generally there isn't a good scale of balance for any paradox games, there are just so many disjointed mechanics that keep piling on from DLCs that balance pretty much can never happen.

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What if Changelingia had YouTube in 1007

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New TNO Africa rework just dropped

>>43396
Micromanaging every individual unit felt weirdly out of place in a game where everything else was done through nudging pops, which with large countries in late game turned into nightmarish tedium.
But yeah, the way they managed to do the historical transition of warfare using a consistent set of mechanics demonstrates a design philosophy that seems to be mostly abandoned by Paradox.

>>43681
And it’s enriched, nuclear grade, dogshit. Remove every war, replace them with shitty minigames. >>43201 is right, they’re like 2 reworks away from replacing the current Russian content with a rump Soviet Union beyond the AA line with Zhukov as its leader or something like that.

>>43681
>no more Afrikan RKs

Goddamn how do they keep making shit even worse

>>43681
WAT, are they officially integrating Debrouillez Vous into TNO?

>>43697
>Another submod integrated into TNO

Bruh, has there been any new original TNO content outside of submod integrations?

>>43703
>Bruh, has there been any new original TNO content outside of submod integrations?
Ukraine? (lol)
Before that Guangdong.

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TFR is cooking??


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