Operation Deep Sneed edition
Made a new thread since the other one is full. You know the drill folks, gather here to discuss and/or complain about Hearts of Iron 4 and all the alt history mods that make the game relevant. From green natpops to sicko mode Savinkov we've got a lot of exciting stuff coming in the next Kaiserreich update, one which will make the LKMT look like pre-rework Germany by comparison. But dont worry TNOomers, you're getting some new content too! After a year and a half and three focus trees that only last for four years, we finally have something new and that's…
…three years of fucking Antarctica
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what is your opinions on those lore and world
>>43310Election mechanics are being made more in-depth, as are congress mechanics with individual senators simulated, npp removed and most of it's candidates returned to either the dems or gop which are separate again. The dems have 3 factions, the gop has 2.
New lore has fdr not run for a third term, but also the new deal goes further and america has a corporatist economy now. Nixon and JFK are no longer railroaded failures.
>>43303What 'bout Penelope's Web, is there any annoucements about it..
>>43325>New lore has fdr not run for a third term, but also the new deal goes further and america has a corporatist economy now.Wth, based FDR ??:O
So is the US economy now supposed to be state-regulated & semi-nationalized at a similar extend with the Fascist Italy?
FDR planned economy path when
>>43341 (me)
>FDR planned economy path whenUhh, just realized he would be probably dead judging he died in 1945 otl.
>>43332Is there a timeline where FDR doesn't die?
>>43341>What 'bout Penelope's Web, is there any annoucements about it..nope, ten thousand more years in rework and team collapse hell
>So is the US economy now supposed to be state-regulated & semi-nationalized at a similar extend with the Fascist Italy?Not as much as italy but substantially more than irl.
>>43343Not officially declared but given this rework is almost entirely in line with the vote pig proposal that was leaked, it's safe to say Yockey (thankfully) gone, Hall (inexplicably) still in.
>>43346>can you explain stuff about hall?In the proposal if the US player fucks everything up as both the dems and the GOP, and you have the dem and gop primaries both pick unpopular right-wing candidates Hall will run for president in 1972 on a CPUSA protest vote campaign which will pick up steam and cause a contingent election. This will cause a deadlock ultimately leading congress to inexplicably vote for Hall to be president as an intentional lame duck.
He will have no control over his cabinet, unable to pass any bills and generally be totally alone and under threat of immediate impeachment if he steps out of line. It's supposedly meant to be some kind of 'single man against the establishment' david and goliath story idk, it seems silly and motivated exclusively by a desire to retain Hall from the old content.
Aside from the fact that there is no reason for Hall to be CPUSA leader aside from lazy OTLism (the reason he was included in the first place) with leaders like Lovestone and Gitlow who were purged irl over siding with the right opposition being able to stay in charge. The devs reasoning now is that in the new soviet lore the Bukharin-Stalin duumvirate had Stalin responsible for foreign affairs and presumably the Comintern, which doesn't make much sense and still doesn't justify Bukharinists like Lovestone and Gitlow being replaced in the CPUSA leadership. And even beyond that if we admit the lazy decision to have communist parties develop in the same way they did irl because apparently Stalin is in charge and making the same personnel choices, with the USSR losing the war there's no reason for Browder to be purged and replaced, so Hall makes little sense either way, he was a product of the very specific moscow-tailing CPUSA that emerged post-ww2 with the red scare and the cold war. No justification to keep him in except as a holdover and because presumably someone on the dev team read some biography of Hall and was involved in making the Hall campaign trail scenario and has an undue fascination with him + sunk cost.
Alas, going to have to wait for Red Order to release some day for a more genuine attempt to imagine an alt-history international communist movement.
>>43358Who even got rid of her and the DSR anyway, was it Pink Panzer of the team thay took over after he stepped down?
Alas, there was a couple of attempts to bring her into the mod, but for whatever reason, they both collapsed, and only one of them saw a release, didn't get a chance to play it, but from what i saw of from a couple of HoI IV YouTubers, did seem like a pretty fun submod
>>43359>only one of them saw a releaseall i could find was:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2909300709and sadly she's was only a general.
>>43391Victoria don't attract as much because of their gameplay, wished there were a fusion between victoria and Hoi4.
>roleplay perspectives for a visual novelpeople seem to like the more visual nove aspect of nations in Hoi4, in victoria there is not much flavor difference between nations of the same development level.
>>43396Micromanaging every individual unit felt weirdly out of place in a game where everything else was done through nudging pops, which with large countries in late game turned into nightmarish tedium.
But yeah, the way they managed to do the historical transition of warfare using a consistent set of mechanics demonstrates a design philosophy that seems to be mostly abandoned by Paradox.
>>43681And it’s enriched, nuclear grade, dogshit. Remove every war, replace them with shitty minigames.
>>43201 is right, they’re like 2 reworks away from replacing the current Russian content with a rump Soviet Union beyond the AA line with Zhukov as its leader or something like that.
>>43703>Bruh, has there been any new original TNO content outside of submod integrations?Ukraine? (lol)
Before that Guangdong.
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