Yes the Switch is technically better however what is the Switch really? It’s basically a soulless tablet with joysticks. The Nintendo 3ds actually feels like a genuine soulful Gameboy. Such a shame Nintendo discontinued it. The Switch is just too big and doesn’t capture that portable Gameboy spirit. If you don’t own one I would get a 3ds asap. You can get the XL version for $200. It’s the best version. If you can’t afford that the regular smaller one is cheaper. They are a discontinued console now so prices will only go up. I would buy a 3ds before they are too expensive.
>>38816The only thing that's better is the battery life, the hardware is inferior and the dual screen is a useless gimmick.
Steam Deck mogs both easily.
>>38833>Usually it featured maps, statistics or inventory and other useful things.That's why I said it's a useless gimmick. All these things are on the second screen either just to fill it sith something to look at or because both screens are too damn small. The games that utilized the second screen in a more interesting way are Sonic Rush, Jump Ultimate All-Stars and The World Ends With You but it's not like they
can't work without it. After all, TWEWY was eventually ported to other platforms and Rush works just fine with a single screen (granted, Sonic will suddenly jump out of the top/bottom of the screen but you can only go so far with emulation).
>Nintendo is supposed to be a gimmicky company.Valve is also a gimmicky company but it adds gimmicks that are actually useful. Nintendo is more like Sony than you believe: it adds a bunch of COOL RADICAL gimmicks yet barely any developer utilizes them in a genuinely interesting way. Unless it's casual games ofc.
>It’s different from Sony or Xbox who just make straightforward consoles with very little difference between the two.Again, why are you trying to make Nintendo look more special than Sony and Valve? It's not. Sony was doing dumb shit way before Wii was a thing (EyeToy anyone?). Before that the quirkiest things Nintendo has ever done were… Power Glove… and… Virtual Boy… Remember Virtual Boy?
Zapper and Power Glove were kinda cool ngl. >>38840>After a while 3ds games didn't even have 3dThe irony.
I'd still have to give Nintendo credit for popularizing gyro. Thanks ig, Nintendo.
>>38844 (me)
Tbf, Valve also fucked around and found out BUT
>they were trying to address real problems and push the industry forward>they have one advantage others don't have: the glorious PC master raceAs a result, Valve's hardware devs' attempts at gimmicks are more endearing and have more actual substance and reason to exist.
>>38839>TWEWY was eventually ported to other platformsWith the caveat that they had to completely rework how partners fight in that game since their original implementation was designed around being able to look at 2 screens at once.
Etrian Odyssey's another game where the game losses some of itself when ported (though it's not as drastic as what they had to do with TWEWY). Map drawing is predictably awkward on a controller but at least on PC you can use a mouse. My main problem is how now the map (and it's zoomed in version) are both either taking up nearly half the screen when you're in a dungeon compared to the DS versions or you minimize it and you get a version of the map that barely shows 6 squares around you. Where as the DS versions of the games you always have the full map on 1 screen and can zoom in on specific areas.
And there's Trauma Center which I don't think has gotten a port to anything else. Games heavily designed around using the stylus or a wiimote. I think it could work on a mouse but there's no chance it works well on a controller without gyro.
>>38847>Is it really a "gimmick" when you're taking something that was already done before and trying to make it more standard?You're talking about something you don't understand. Two touchpads, touch-sensitive joysticks, Valve Index, Steam Input, custom in-game menus, the flick stick. There are enough small unique gimmicks that add up over time. And I'm not mentioning the gimmicks that generally apply to PC gaming. The gimmicks Valve has are no less gimmicky than whatever Nintendo puts out. Also, it's better to make an existing gimmick a standard than to leave it underutilized (the whole point of a gimmick is to be utilized, not to rot and die).
>>38848>With the caveat that they had to completely rework how partners fight in that game since their original implementation was designed around being able to look at 2 screens at once. Okay, that's one game that utilizes DS well. But there really aren't that many.
>Trauma CenterThat's a casual game. As I said, casual games are an exception.
>>38850>I like owning physical copies of gamesMeanwhile, most releases on Switch are digital-only, especially indie releases. What, you want to play AAA games in 20 FPS? Or are the only games you play made by Nintendo? Not to mention that you don't even have to build a PC or buy on Steam, you can just get a Steam Deck and buy on GOG or pirate games. On Nintendo's consoles you don't actually have a choice, 3DS owners can confirm. Nintendo will Thanos-snap your eShop games.
>>38816>The Nintendo 3ds actually feels like a genuine soulful Gameboy.No, it isn't, DS has ditched GBA's focus on battery life and gaming in direct sunlight in favor of fairly standard backlit LCD displays (BUT NOW THERE'S TTWO OF THEM!). The main problem with Nintendo, Sony and SEGA which Valve doesn't have is that they never sticked to one gimmick and fleshed it out a bit, they constantly feel the need to reinvent the wheel, not giving the devs enough time to truly take advantage of their weird controls. This isn't how you make a platform for game devs.
That said, I'm a SEGA stan so aside from 32x they did nuffin' rong. Valve is the new SEGA, though it would've been cool to see the Dreamcast stick around longer.
>>38864>Muh bad graphics indie games, I need raytraced horse anus in 4k>TF2 for the xbox 360>generalized hardware boring>doesn't know how to burn a file to a DVD, complains about indies that give you said file to burn>hasn't attempted to plug a controller into a PC>picked mods for a buggy game written in C++ and got surprised when the bugs got worse and giving thomas the train boobs in skyrim made it aethetically inconsistent>troubleshootingThe main factor of importance here: initial convenience. Consoles have one job and do it okay enough for a while.
Given it's entertainment that's a non-issue. Just get NixOS with KDE, install steam-run, and you can run any game with an exe file.
>The average PC gamers probably spends about $2500Youtuber hands have influenced this post
>>38869Indie games are usually garbage compared to AAA and not worth playing.
TF2 for 360 still has players and retains the classic gameplay without any of the stupid hats or noob weapons.
I don’t know what half the other stuff you mentioned is about. I don’t waste my time learning pointless pc skills that won’t actually help me with anything in life.
>>38869>The main factor of importance here: initial convenience. Consoles have one job and do it okay enough for a while.This, although Steam Deck and Steam Machines are the best of both worlds. Same for those GNU/Linux-based retro handhelds.
>Youtuber hands have influenced this postI think most of this anon's "criticisms" are complaints about "le average PC gamer" instead of addressing the actual issues. Somehow it is impossible for console gamers to be annoying, that's somehow only the PC gaming problem.
>>38870>Indie games are usually garbage compared to AAA and not worth playing.What an absolute clown. It's the complete opposite with recent AAA titles.
>TF2 for 360 still has players and retains the classic gameplay And classic problems. Also, no mouse/gyro support and custom servers so you're stuck with a few gamemodes and maps with clunky controls. But that doesn't matter because… the classic gameplay… or something.
>>38873 (me)
>It's the complete opposite with recent AAA titles.Forgot to say "except Japanese games." Japanese games have the same charm that indie games do.
Nintendo fans, I agree for a truce. I will say that 3DS is the greatest console ever if we can unite against Sony fanboys, this cancer must be stopped at all costs.
>>38878also it's the same problem microsoft is having now. The 360 is a megahit, what do we call its successor? Everyone assumed they continue the trend and call it the 720 but no they named it "Xbox One" because suits in a meeting knew about people calling the previous console "the 360" and thought uyghas were going to call the xbone "the one". The xbone flopped for a bunch of other reasons but its awful branding is still insane but not to the point it was confusing since a grandma wanting to buy an "xbox 1" in walmart or gamestop is likely to have a clerk knowing what they're talking about since the actual og xbox is long discontinued.
They then drop the inevitable mid generation model the xbox 1 s and xbox 1 x. What do the x and s indicate from each other? Oh well, it's not too bad. Until your next gen of xboxes is just called the series S and series X. I don't have much interest in xbox (only owned the 360) but if uyghas like me who pay attention to gaming shit are confused as to what they are there's a problem. There was a brief moment I thought they were just midgen upgrades ala ps4/ps5 pro branching for the xbone until I actually read up on it. Even then the next question is what's the difference between the 2? I'm sure they could've come up with some branding to indicate one has better hardware and a disc drive while the other doesn't. But at least it put MS in a position where they have to put their games on PC to be profitable with Sony following suit. Nintendo will never bend the knee and would try to drop a legal nuke on all emulators before even entertaining the thought.
>>38880>suits in a meeting knew about people calling the previous console "the 360" and thought uyghas were going to call the xbone "the one"Are marketologists that stupid?
>Nintendo will never bend the knee and would try to drop a legal nuke on all emulators before even entertaining the thought.The definition of going down kicking and screaming.
>>38873 (me)
Also, TF2 Classic is available for PC with additional features and custom gamemodes so it's kind of a non-argument in the first place. Just go download the classic build smh.
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