I think the Kingdom Come: Deliverance of the problem of trying to make an authentic artistic product amid culture war bullshit.
Despite the fact that KC:D is historical fiction and is set in the real, historical medieval kingdom of Bohemia, the first came came under fire for its lack of diversity. What were they thinking, making all the inhabitants of rural villages in medieval Bohemia white?! And coming to the defense of this admittedly ridiculous criticism were a bunch of right-wing and GamerGate types.
Now we have Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 and… what's this? There's one (1) Muslim traveler from the Mali Empire in Bohemia? And what's this? You can have a gay romance? Are you trying to tell me there were GAY people in the middle ages? This game isn't BASED anymore!
It really shows how creatives are sandwiched between two tribes of dipshits wanting equally stupid changes so that all media products signal towards their tribe.
171 posts and 60 image replies omitted.>>39920They absolutely are trying to push the idea that their shooting men are more than just shooting men and that there's supposed to be some big overarching plot beyond shooting men shooting other shooting men.
Take a look at the difference between the trailers for Team Fortress 2 and Overwatch 2. TF2 has always always known that its a shooting game about shooting men shooting other shooting men, and the shorts beyond this are mostly just comedy sketches where "this is a multiplayer versus game with no actual plot" is the central joke.
Now watch the Overwatch 2 trailer and tell me to my face that they're advertising this as a shooting man game with no plot.
>>39921TF2 may have even less "plotting" than an old id game, seriously.
Notice that later on for Doom games the plot started to grow, but it never became cumbersome to the point of requiring a fucking lore and episodes which is what you asked for OW.
>>39733When do we insert Stain Yakub in this?
>>39734Fine point but what about the sources?
Is that on the same level of Odin drinking semen?
>>40145This is true. Like I said, all the shorts I've seen about TF2 are basically jokes centering around the theme of this being a "red guys vs blue guys" versus game with no real plot. They completely mesh with the game itself.
All the Overwatch shit I've seen implies this grand plot that has nothing to do with the game itself. In fact, the plot as implied by trailers, shorts and character descriptions directly conflicts with the actual game. The plot implies this kind of X-Men style league of heroes who are in conflict with a bunch of villains who are in some kind of SPECTRE or Hydra-style council of shadows. Not only does the actual game allow for the heroes and villains to be on the same team, often the maps are goofy shit that has nothing to do with this seemingly serious plot, like one of them being in a Blizzard theme park.
>>40165Combat is hit-or-miss. Some people hate it, some love it. I belong to the latter, there is a joy to be found in having clunky difficulty combat system and figuring out ways to break it.
The downside is that game does not have that much in terms of story choices. You always play Henry of Skalitz, you follow linear main quest, side quests are also mostly simple tasks (with handful of more complex ones), map is big but empty. Still has 100 hours of contend though, you will get your moneys worth.
The main draw is mechanical depth and immersion.
>>40194All of that and I'm an adult with a life and so I might need to walk away from the PC at any moment. Or I might not even have enough time to sit down and play until I get another of those items.
The game shouldn't prevent me from saving over some pretentious design decision.
>>40153I got it+all DLCs for $12 CAD on steam during some sale
>>40205Thankfully it does let you save & quit
>>40230Wolfenstein is woke and that's based.
Indiana Jones is and always will be kkkolonizer slop that dehumanizes indigenous people and whitewashes grave robbers. Making nazis the villain is just a way to make "archaeology" seem not so racist in comparison.
>>41298>Wolfenstein is woke and that's based.No, you're dumb. Wolfenstein is based precisely because it doesn't include preachy woke propaganda, if it was released in, say, 2012, everyone would've thought it's cool.
>Indiana Jones is and always will be kkkolonizer slopSee? That's why you're dumb. The only reason why Wolfenstein is "woke" is because you haven't found anything "problematic" in it yet.
>>41299The first cutscene is peak fiction, it hits hard.
KCDI was a small game made by people who enjoy actual history.
KCDII have been compromised by big money and everything that come with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhIXIsJqFZQ>>41421I was talking more about KCD1. Anon
>>39553 was implying that the creative lead must be some kind of chud supreme who would have needed to specifically instruct his team to not include any black people in a game set in rural, medieval Bohemia.
Given the setting, I would argue that including black people would be the more conscious decision. Not that such a thing would be impossible, but black people making their way that far into the heart of Europe would have been a rare sight indeed. The way KCD2 handled it was perfect: Musa is basically an explorer.
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