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thog don't caare

>>42284
based thog

>>42284
Bro stfu

Amazon is full of face savers that butchered an actually well written character just to avoid the wrath of terminally online misogynists at the expense of realistic character building. They turned a complex character into a cartoon villain. Now the show will never be good.

Neil Cuckmann had two choices for his TV show:

1. Stick to his guns and do it exactly like the game portrayed it as. Prove that he's above all the haters and he had the confidence in his work to transform it into a 1 to 1 TV show despite all the backlash.

2. Cuck out and try to haphazardly address all criticisms of the game. Cast Abby as a "normal" attractive woman instead of a buff she-hulk to reduce the anger, edit and modify scenes (Dina gets knocked out instead of Tommy), add in new characters (Joel's Therapist) and add in additional scenes with Abby's crew to remove any element of surprise. Change up scenes so that Joel doesn't look retarded (Dina says his name and Abby overhears instead of Joel automatically trusting strangers), change Joel's death scene so he at least argues with Abby (I saved your life!), etc.

Well he wimped out and chose route #2 and he just did a worse job than the actual game lol. Unless it was all 4D chess to make the haters of his game look upon his game more fondly by deliberately butchering the TV adaptation idk how Neil fans can talk themselves out of it.

>>42300
There’s nothing to say. Cuckman cucked out and now the show quite literally cannot be good because of this one dog shit scene, because every scene with Abby will feature this annoying bitch instead of the tough but understandable Abby we got in the games.

zionist written, zionist funded, zionist director, zionist game

>>42309
nah not true

TLOU2's message is extreme anti-war/anti-violence

the actors he chose for his show such as bella ramsey and pedro pascal showed support for palestine

>>42284
the thog song

>>42317
conceptually it is anti war/anti violence but its not like dishonored where you can choose to go towards your revenge objective without killing all the goons, so ellie has a +120000 bodycount

>>42329
Not true. In the game technically you can take a pacifist route as only scripted encounters require you to kill exclusively for self defence. Otherwise, you can (hell it’s actually optimal too) skip most enemies entirely and just focus on getting Ellie near Abby.

>>42282
That was it? I never played the 2nd game, thought the series was kinda mid to be honest, but I thought it was supposed to be a big deal when they killed Joel. This was boring as fuck.

>>42336
Yeah because Abby is a bitch in this scene. In the game, Joel’s death wasn’t this drawn out and was way more blunt than it was needlessly brutal. Even the comments in the video point out that Abby looks ridiculous in this scene. Mind you, the rest of the show has to continue with this version of Abby.

Wow the show is even less received than tlou2 game. HBO fucking assasinated this franchise. Druckmann, please make part 3 goated

>>42333
The "press x" to torture and kill that girl you chased in the hospital didn't feel like self defense to me. Also the game doesn't offer a way to non lethally dispose of humans but rewards exploration (that makes you encounter ennemies) and loot (on the bodies) that you may want for the mandatory combat sequences. Pacifism in tlou is thus not fun unlike dishonored alghough tonally it makes sense for ellie to psychotically go trough dozens of people for revenge because she's completely fucked up by trauma and shit

last of us 2 was shit. the videogame was shit. the tv show was shit

>>42573
>as only scripted encounters require you to kill exclusively for self defence
You’re right about the self defence piece, but moments like it (like in the second Abby fight where you have to stab Abby when Ellie is in her most vulnerable state) are explicitly there to make the player feel discomforted by how obsessed and violent Ellie gradually gets as you play as her—you know what druckmann said about some media only being truly experienced through games. The fact that you felt disgust and discomfort by that scene with Nora means that the devs succeeded in what they wanted the players to feel.

But otherwise, the devs did their jobs well.

>>42579
I agree, tlou 2 is straight up discomfortable and unfun to play at times and that's great because it is completely in line with the story it's telling and that is in turn reinforced by what the player does in the game. I think a lot of gamers didn't understand that because they lack maturity and just expect games to be feel good fun.

The story was dumb and shitty to begin with.

>>42581
> I think a lot of gamers didn't understand that because they lack maturity and just expect games to be feel good fun.
uygha this is some premium level cope. Gamers reacted positively to shit like spec ops the line even though that shit was painful to play. Get your copebunga bs out of here.

>>42583
If you ignore the review bombing chinlet incels using this game as culture war battleground it was also well received although it generated more controversy because it was directed at a larger segment with more casual gamers. Players of spec ops didn't have years to attach themselves to a character only for a twist turning him into a war criminal schizo.

>>42583
Part 2 was pretty received actually even by its haters. Hell it was the most bought game even a month after launch. I don’t remember there being as much complaining over dialogue or scene writing in that game compared to the show. Most people were just piss mad over Joel dying and Ellie not killing Abby even if those actions made sense from a narrative standpoint—which makes sense given how many people loved Joel.