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How are we feeling about it?

I am cautiously optimistic from the all the gameplay footage released. It genuinely looks like it will be a fun multifaceted game.

>>42775
EUIV is probably the Paradox game I play the least. It's been so long I can't even really remember the mechanics.

>>42776

Hey I get you, I never liked the eu series much either. But honestly eu 5 added population (that is needed for all military and production), resources (same), manufacturing (same), etc. as well as picking between different estates and the ability to actually change laws & policies.

Ie. all the things I like from Victoria + extra.

>>42777

*politicking

it will be shit and shallow for at least two years of dlc release or if some guy in is basement make an actually good mod

I'm not going to play it just because we've finally reached Paradox games that my computer can no longer run. I'm fine in the EU4 zone, but Victoria 3 is beyond me.

>>42781

Could very well be. My hope is that the core mechanics are solid and the dlc focuses on historical flavour more than anything (the keast bad way for them to milk money imo)

>>42784

My pc just broke in december after 8 years so I just go a new one. Timing luck I guess.

i don't know anything about EUV mechanics but they better change the rebel mechanics because there is not need for a random 3 dev province to rebel every 10 years and for me to genocide them every time. Also i like the mission mechanics, idk if this is still an unpopular opinion or not. Fuck mana though

Can't wait for the next imperator rome update!

What is EUIV's thing?
<Victoria: Best economy
<HOI: Best warfare
<CK3: Best characters/RPG elements

So what is EUIV's thing? I played it and I can't remember.

>>42802

There will be mission trees in eu5, confirmed. Atm in the previews, they are just very basic/unfinished.

>>42804

EU series the most generic map painter. The new one though is taking a bit out of all the good things about the other three.

>>42777
sounds good. Mana and dev were pretty shit systems, everyone was in it for the diplomacy and historical events/flavor

Been thinking of playing some eu4 mp again for old times sake
>>42805
oh thats nice
>>42804
I think that EUIV has the most playstyles out of all the pdx games. Hoi4 necessarily railroads you due to its historical context (rather badly in most modern cases) and even on ahistorical the outcome is basically the same, only the people you are fighting changes. Victoria 2 i think has the same issues, you can call them that, with historical railroading at least to some extent as well as infamy. In eu4 due to the long playtime you can basically play in any way you want. You get to change religions, government types etc. It really is the most flexible of all the pdx games

>>42804
The appeal to EU4, at least the people still playing it, is to abuse mechanics and optimize World Conquests.
If you're not conquering another country, why even have the game running?
Historical flavor be damned, there is nothing stopping you from tag switching Gotland > Hansa > Prussia > Morocco > Dai Viet > France > England > Qing
It's more of a sandbox than hoi4, more military focused than ck3, and more finished than vic3.

>>42812
Don't forget more boring than Imperator.

eu4 is fucking shit, nothing but a modifier stacking game without historical flavor other than mindless blobing and shitty mana

eu5 is promising because it will remove mana and make the system more dynamic so no shit like tag switching and modifier stacking… thank you paradox for fixing the game

>>42775
I only play eu4 as the timurids to unlock that raze gov reform and then raze and pillage all of europe to the ground

>>42832
third worldist praxis

>>42832
Hordes are the most interesting government because it actually facilitates conquest.

>>42812
>is to abuse mechanics and optimize World Conquests
world conquest is fucking boring
I like making my trade income go up, getting all the wonders, creating a revolutionary republic and bullying superpowers

>>42832
>>42840

I myself do indeed plan to do an Inca run in eu5 where I go as close as possible to supercentralized pre-modern planned economy and crush all colonial tryhards and unite all South America into a single elegant machine.

>>42832
Tbh the only ways I play Paradox games are:

1. Nation build with Brythonic tribes / Wales / Cornwall
2. Play as a small country in Africa / America and build a bourgeois republic nation that can fight off the KKKolonizers
3. Play as Oirat or the Great Horde and conquer the world and then turn into a socialist secular republic at the end.

>>42843
played the incas not too long ago and got constantly decced on by britain, portugal and spain. Weirdly enough did not have issues like that with the aztecs afterwards

>>42841
Ryukyu stronk

Victoria 3 is the only game I know of which has worker coops

>>42843
>Playing non-european in vanilla paradox game
I shiggy

Give me the best paradox game for a casual millenial that can only play on their macbook


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