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 No.10860[View All]

Is skin care bourgeois?
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 No.11670

>>11668
Can we NOT have this thread derailment continue? Please? I or just about anyone else could respond, but engaging in gender discussion is not the point of this thread nor do I want to engage.

 No.11671

>>11668
I won't even bother with this 'tribes' and 'thousands of years of history' because as a person who has studied history for a while, reading that gives me an aneurysm that I am not prepared to face.
>200 IQ Qanon tier conspiracy
He is often cited by liberals as a pioneer for this kind of research, no conspiracy about it. The CIA did the same thing with Gloria Steinhem and Feminism, so it's not unreasonable and idea.

 No.11672

>>11670
Wasn't trying to derail the thread. Honestly it's been pretty much dead with no activity for over a week, so I don't feel like I'm taking over discussion here. I'd love to talk skincare however, discuss routines/product reviews and what not. Or talk about the beauty industry and the beauty standards it cements in the popular zeitgeist.

>I won't even bother with this 'tribes' and 'thousands of years of history'

Maybe you should research more before you do.
>He is often cited by liberals as a pioneer for this kind of research
No he's not.
>The CIA did the same thing with Gloria Steinhem and Feminism
A feminist having CIA ties does not discredit feminism. John Money wasn't even a transgender activist and he has no relation to transgender rights outside of this conspiracy you've constructed here.

 No.11686

>>11672
>Do research
M8… I have and I'm not delving into this further.
>No he's not
He is, given that I've seen liberal agitators talk about him and even the most skeptical articles praise his 'gender' ideas.
>https://www.salon.com/2015/01/04/pervert_or_sexual_libertarian_meet_john_money_the_father_of_fology/
>A feminist having CIA ties does not discredit feminism
Except it does in the West. Second Wave and Third Wave feminism as well as black feminism demonstrate an obvious problem in their attitudes. That's ignoring the original Western Feminist movement being a result of the Capitalists not wanting to let the USSR and it's social changes look good, and so allowing for welfare capitalism to compete.

I'm not even going to go into the S.C.U.M. Manifesto.
>John Money wasn't even a transgender activist
never said he was
>and he has no relation to transgender rights outside of this conspiracy you've constructed here.
It's not a conspiracy when his 'work' IS used and cited by liberals and is similar in how other social movements were tainted by CIA assets.

 No.11739

>>11686
>I'm not delving into this further.
proceeds to delve further lol

>some random article mentions he had an interest in transgenderism and was supposedly significant for sex research.

even the most skeptical articles praise his 'gender' ideas
I'm not sure where your finding these articles but I have only ever seen sources calling him crazy and a pedo.
>I'm not even going to go into the S.C.U.M. Manifesto
No idea what this is, maybe don't mention it if your just gonna name drop.

>Except it does in the West

Third worldism but for feminism lol

Anyways no, feminism and the transgender rights movement are obviously not glowups.

 No.16489

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No.

 No.16501

I tried one of those pore patches recently, pinched a massive blackhead out and this is the first time my nose has bled from its pores in like a decade.

 No.16502

>>11686
>I'm not even going to go into the S.C.U.M. Manifesto
Oh, please do

 No.16503

>muh moral aesthetiscm
holy shit, Leftism/Post-Leftism is not a religion you idiots. Taking care of your skin is not "bourgeois", and even if it was who cares. I'm not going to let my face be filled with acne and look like shit just because of some stupid notion that it might be bourgeois to buy skin care products. Sure, there are people who go overboard with the consumerist aspect, but that's true for anything in consumer capitalism—blame the system, not the individual. Moralfags need to fuck off.international_brigadeInternational Brigade

 No.16505

>>16503
Aren't all those creams a little bit like printer cartridges, that you have to buy over and over, isn't there a better way to achieve the same effect, that lasts a longer time ?

 No.16506

>>16501
>I tried one of those pore patches recently, pinched a massive blackhead out and this is the first time my nose has bled from its pores in like a decade.
Sweating clears out your pores. Sauna is great if you can get that, but jumping jacks with 3 layers of clothing will do the trick too.

 No.16507

>>16505
Sure. Never drink, never smoke, never leave your house when the sun is out.

 No.16508

>>16489
>pic
no waaay lmao

 No.16523

>>16489
Assuming that is not a lie. It's all genetics, you can't "do" that.

 No.16537

>genetics
lol no. your skin wrinkles and blemishes and thins out with age no matter who you are. It can come slower or faster depending on stuff like skincare, sun, diet and stress. Assuming that is actually a 40 yo man with no beauty filter (it's not) he would have to have surgery to lift his skin and at least dermal fillers to reintroduce more volume into the face

 No.16538

>>16537
I mean, having lungs is genetics too.

 No.16539

Additionally there is very little reddness in the face,and the hands seem soft, which would suggest low testosterone/high estrogen. So he would likely have to be on HRT as well. More likely though it's a women in her 20s/ early 30s that has taken good care of her skin, recieved dermal fillers and is decent at makeup

 No.16560

I believe in taking care of myself, and a balanced diet and a rigorous exercise routine. In the morning, if my face is a little puffy, I’ll put on an ice pack while doing my stomach crunches. I can do a thousand now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial masque which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.spurdoSpurdo

 No.16586

>>16539
Reminder that HRT is the best skincare treatment.

 No.16587

>>16489
Teen girl or young adult woman. Never seen a grown man look that feminine.

 No.17961

My dad told me my forehead's skin looks like shit because I keep touching and rubbing it, is there any truth to that?

 No.17962

>>17961
Post 5head
But yes it's true

I don't know why the fuck the skin turns bad if you keep touching

it's entire job is to make contact

 No.17966

>>16586
Tretinoin is even better, it actually reverses wrinkles. It'll make your skin sensitive to light so wear a strong sunscreen if you're going to use it.

 No.17980

>>17966
>reverses aging from UV rays
>makes you more sensitive to UV rays
Sounds like an RPG item

 No.18058

Ok unironically, whats the redpilled skincare product. Lower cost and less insentive the better, no steroids that ruin your skin long term?brocialismBrocialism

 No.18064

>>16507
>Never drink, never smoke, never leave your house when the sun is out.
Based. Easy, I already do that.

 No.18065

>>16508
>>16523
>>16587
It's called not going out in the sun. Sun rays are the cause of like 90 or 95+% of skin aging.

 No.18067

>>18058
A routine that consists of vitamin C, sunscreen and a moisturizer with hyaluronic acid. Anything more than that is most probably overkill unless your skin is REALLY shit. Also exercising and a healthy diet helps considerably.

Tretinoin 0.05% for reversing wrinkles rather than preventing, though it's going to make your skin a bit photosensitive so wear a strong sunscreen. If it's too much for you there's also tret 0.025% available.

Collagen is a bit of a meme though ingesting it is going to at least make sure your reserves are full, but it won't do you any miracles unlike tret.

>>18065
Going vampire mode is your best bet indeed. Wear sunscreen and/or don't go out between 10 and 7. Take vit D supplements and/or mushrooms that were exposed to sunlight.

 No.18070

>>18067
re Tretinoin, how long does it take to have a discernible effect when stacked with sunscreen and such? And is there a Tret 1%?

I want to get a dermal roller/stampper for some cystic acne scars I have on my face, but I'm concerned about stacking everything…

 No.18089

>>18070
Tret's effects take weeks sometimes, maybe a few months. Depends on the person. There is tret 1% but if you want to go with the strongest one I'd suggest buying a small one and test how your skin reacts. If it's too strong move to 0.05% and so on.

Regarding dermarollers I've personally seen conflicting info on whether the ones meant for home use work or not, but maybe what I read was big pharma (derma?) propaganda. Understandable though because professional microneedling is expensive afaik. If you're going to go with it you should do a bit more research tbh.

Maybe ask /fa/'s skincare threads for further advice if you don't mind posting on 4chan?

 No.18099

>>18070
>Retinoids reduce fine lines and wrinkles by increasing the production of collagen. They also stimulate the production of new blood vessels in the skin, which improves skin color. Additional benefits include fading age spots and softening rough patches of skin. However, it takes three to six months of regular use before improvements in wrinkles are apparent—and the best results take six to 12 months.

>Because retinoids can cause skin dryness and irritation, doctors often recommend using them only every other day at first and then gradually working up to nightly applications. Wear a sunscreen during the day, because retinoids increase the skin's sensitivity to sunlight. These drugs must be used continually to maintain their benefits.


>Tretinoin (Retin-A, generic), tazarotene (Avage, Tazorac), and adapalene (Differin) are prescription retinoids. Adapalene is also available over the counter (in a 0.1% formulation versus the 0.3% prescription version). Other retinoids are undergoing clinical trials.


>In addition, several over-the-counter products containing retinoids, such as retinol, are available. Because they're not as strong (and thus less irritating), they are not as effective in reducing wrinkles as tretinoin; but they do improve the appearance of photo-aged skin. Tretinoin can be used with alpha hydroxy acids (AHAs) for additional skin-smoothing effects.

 No.18102

>>18099
>>18089
interesting, thanks anon

 No.18583

Why do I keep getting fucking pimples?

I'm in my mid 20s.
I eat healthy
I drink a lot of water.
I change pillow cover weekly
I use face wash in the morning with my shower
I use moistureizer after to not have it dry out (I really wish I knew this during high school!)

Why do I still end up getting white heads/pimples? Also, "god forbid" I have a single fucking snack on a weekend, let's say some fast food or some chips and a coke. My face will look like I just hit puberty for 1.5 weeks until it goes back to the "normal" of my regular shitty baseline of 1-3 zits emerging randomly across my face again.

What the fuck?

While I'm at it, what am I missing? I've heard that there's some product that you apply specifically on a zit and then it's gone the next day. What's the technical name for that?

 No.18584

>>18583
>I change pillow cover weekly
every 2 weeks is enough, you get less detergent residue on your skin
>I use face wash in the morning with my shower
>I use moisturizer
probably too much product and too much washing

>I've heard that there's some product that you apply specifically on a zit and then it's gone the next day.

70% alcohol, if you are fearless you can freezburn it with liquid nitrogen

 No.18593

>>18584
>freezburn it with liquid nitrogen
Pretty sure that's for sun spots / moles lol You mean amateurs self-apply this? Sounds dangerous as fuck
>70% alcohol
Yeah, looked up, found this clip https://youtu.be/lQPjbsVh61c . It seems to support your claim, while also mixing in some other tips like using a needle and q-tips. Also mentions salicylic acid and benzoyl peroxide.

Reading onward it seems I may have neglected the order in which I apply stuff. Sometimes I've applied moisturizer before either using an abrasive toner or shaving. That may have not only countered the effectiveness (oil blocking pores from product) or worsened acne lol should've double-checked that one! Online guides definitely specify applying moisturizer last in whichever skincare routine.

 No.18598

>>18593
Dermatologist propaganda to scare you off with the needle onto their hands. Just wait for white head and then squeeze from sides without your nails.

 No.18602

>>18593
>mfw I realize that I have genetical cystic acne that could never be truly cured
>they’ll cause scarring regardless of treatment
This sucks.

 No.20352

>>18602
Have you thought about using a dermapen or roller?

 No.21426

Is Dr.Squatch soap any good or a scam? The ad is hilarious.
https://drsquatch.com/

 No.21427

>>20352
>a dermapen or roller?
How legit are they?

 No.21428

>>21426
>The ad is hilarious.
begone shill

 No.21429

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>>21428
??? I asked if its legit. The ad is funny and not an infomercial product sale, so I asked.

 No.21436

>Putting petroleum products on or in his body

NGMI

 No.21437

>>21427
It works pretty well but you have to clean it n shieeet

 No.21438

>>21437
Not a problem, that's basically any razor or other skin-care tool.

 No.21442

>>21436
Petroleum is bad… because it's just bad, okay?

 No.21584

>>21429
haha
i like this meme format

wonder why they were called emotional posters lol

 No.21585

>>18065
is skin aging really that bad tho?
>>18067
btw i get my sunlight by just exposing my knees and legs and hands for 30 minutes every other day

am i safe? am i skin maxxingg? getting natural vitamin d while having good skin where it matters?

 No.21587

>>16489
>>16508
>>18065
>>16523
it's makeup. layers and layers of makeup.

 No.21600

>>21442
>Petroleum is bad… because it's just bad, okay?
Because it isn't biodegradable, meaning your body can't process it you fucking retard. God I hate people like you, who just repeat corporate propaganda without a second thought and dismiss anyone who says:
>You know, maybe the petrochemical industry doesn't have your best interest at heart?
<CONSPIRITOID HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE OUR CORPORATE MASTERS??!?!


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/vaseline-petroleum-jelly_n_4136226


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