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 No.1195[View All]

Often when when talking about leftist fiction, it is in relation to speculative science fiction.I'd like to have a thread to discuss not only fantasy with leftist themes, but fantasy in general.So, read any good fantasy recently?
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 No.13771

>>13749
Do I understand you correctly ? You are saying that films don't show science at all. They show secular magic when they mean science, and they show fantasy magic when they mean magic.

 No.13792

>>13747
Magic in HP is a bit weird because you have to have innate ability and you have to study at length to learn how to use it.

>>13748
Hermione has the magic gene or whatever it is that lets her do magic. She's not a muggle, just her parents are. It's unclear if there's something like a recessive gene or whatever but some magic users are born to muggles and some non-magic users are born to magic-users. It's kind of implied that having a scientific or muggle-oriented approach to magic is actually helpful, because people like Hermione or Arthur Weasley get good results thanks to their curiosity and experimentation.
>>13763
Yes except it doesn't seem to have anything to do with blood purity. IIRC there was somebody from a pureblood family with no magic. One of the Black family I think. One of Harry's neighbors is also a squib (which is how the books introduce the idea), and so is Filch.

>>13749
>Yeah, I think Muggles are more uninformed than unable.
No, they are 100% unable, as are the "squibs" who are born to wizard families but can't do magic. You need the mojo to be able to do magic at all. How good a study you are just influences your aptitude.
>I'm not sure if the science and magic in fantasy is really comparable, if you mean scientific method
HP plays with that. The wizard world uses antiquated technology (Harry's first year is 1991-1992) and supposedly certain more modern technology malfunctions in areas with a lot of magic like Hogwartz (although that could be a spell that does that intentionally). One of the themes of the story is that the wizards are kind of backward because they're insular and think they're superior to muggles and ignore their technology. Like there's the bit where Arthur Weasley got bit by the magic snake and wizard medicine wasn't able to help him but muggle medicine worked. Most wizards also don't seem to have a deep understanding of magic and how it works, but just say the words and do the gestures to make stuff happen, so their understanding of magic isn't scientific at all really.

 No.13803

>>13792
>>13792
>Most wizards also don't seem to have a deep understanding of magic and how it works, but just say the words and do the gestures to make stuff happen, so their understanding of magic isn't scientific at all really.
Is it even possible to write a universe in which magic can be studied and explained scientifically?

 No.13837

>>13803
It would just be medieval sci-fi then.
Which would be a cool as shit concept.

 No.15198

>>4147
I guess the best way would be to make your own fictional cultures from scratch as realistically as possible. I imagine that it would take an immense amount of effort though.

 No.15199

>>15198
Sorry, meant for >>4298

 No.15200

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>>4147
Sounds hotpunkPunk

 No.17065

>>13803
thats what magic realism is, to write a story in wich magic and fantasy are treated as normal everyday stuff that doesnt surprise people. latinoamericans have been doing this since the 50s

 No.17083

>>15200
thanks, currently fapping to lower left

 No.17564

Anyone else hyped for The Green Knight? It looks like it's gonna be something special

 No.17632

>>17564
looks pretty kino, very refreshing in the age of GoT ripoffs

 No.17637

>>17564
>another tale glorifying the hired thugs of the feudal system

 No.17661

>>17637

It's an adaptation of a 13th century poem, plus it aint like King Arthur's knights acted anything like real knights did, they were more like the Superheros of their day than anything else

>>17632

Yeah I really miss 80's style fantasy so my interest piqued when I saw the trailer and saw how not-GOT it looks

 No.17933

Anyone ever see Excalibur by John Borman? Fucking classic of fun trippy fantasy (miss me with fantasy that aims for "realism", shit never works

 No.17935

>>17637
Imagine being such a pathetically unimaginative twat that you can't detach actual history from the time-period context of a fictional legend telling a story. You're like one of those insufferable cunts who thinks they're smart by going around and saying Santa isn't real on Christmas, just to spoil the fun.

 No.18103

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Early review looks pretty good

 No.18110

>>18103
>Eyes Wide Shut of knight movies
What did he mean by this

 No.18142

>>18110

>haha movie is weiiirdddd

 No.18182

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>>18103
>as soon as it was over I watched it again

 No.18619

The Green Knight was dope af, you should see it

 No.18620

>>18619
okay I will see it

 No.18621

>>18182
Jay's laugh got geniunely evil and spiteful lmao

 No.18660

>>18619
okay i will not see it

 No.18676

>>18619
I can't fucking find it anywhere for some reason, send link pls?

 No.18678

>>1196
>fucking transition and site-redirect from bunkerchan to leftypol has fucked up formatting and deleted several posts
Why the fuck did you people take down Bunkerchan instead of leaving it up as a backup mirror?!

 No.18821

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqYtmWbw19k&ab_channel=SolusAstorias
>" Whoah, is she crying ?"
<" Is she actually crying ? Dude you just made her cry, you made a succubus cry from celibacy."
>" I didn't think she would actually cry.."
<" She is in fucking tears."
>" I thought it would be funny you know."
<" I'm a man of God but even that was fucking ice cold."
>" Come on, man."
<"She's holding her tears in public, this is the most pathetic thing I have ever seen since the fourth crusade*."

*Pillaging of the Constantinople by a Crusaders and Venetians before being wrecked fighting the Muslims. This weakened Constantinople enough for the Ottomans to grab a hold of it later.

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>>12047
Since we're on about fantasy puppetry, Labyrinth is a must see classic too. Bowie is perfect as Jareth and the entire labyrinth is like Alice in Wonderland. I think it somewhat inspired the Alice in Wonderland film from 1999 (great film too).

 No.18875

>>2860
Now I see why Tukhachevsky got purged and 100% agree with it

 No.18892

Fifth Season blatantly comments on our world, and isn't very positive. It's also much more interesting than your average Tolkien-wannabe.

>>11505
He copies entire ideas, characters, arcs, settings, and plots from both the Eddas, Völsunga saga, and Heimskringla. Beowulf is more of an abstract influence, like it is on all English literature. Völsungs was highly influential on 19th century romantic literature by the way, so it's no surprise it influenced Tolkien in turn.
Went through a Nordic animism phase as a teen and read everything I could find related to it. Read The Hobbit and LoTR much later, and the influence (read: thievery) was blatant.

 No.18894

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>>18892
>Fifth Season blatantly comments on our world
5th season of what?
>entire ideas, characters, arcs, settings, and plots from both the Eddas, Völsunga saga, and Heimskringla
mind elaborating how with a specific example from both works, because beside basic tropes/storylines that are repeated in European myths, legends and literature many times, I don't see it beyond those similarities. Also I'm fairly sure that his idea of elves and such were never hidden to be directly interpreted from Norse stories from what I recall and were merely placed within Middle Earth as a neutral setting away from real life history.
>a Nordic animism phase as a teen and read everything I could find
Please recommend titles and authors I've been having a tough time finding good Norse literature outside of the basics.

Smaug is obviously a call back to Fafnir, but a gold-hoarding dragon is a story as old as dragons themselves. And the One Ring is a reference as well (Ivaldi's ring or whatever it was called from Wagner's cycle). But it's not quite 1:1 and it still takes a lot of skill to take stories interpreted from odd ballads and to rewrite it into a huge story with humor and wit and songs and multiple languages.

 No.18956

is dragon age inquisition any good?

 No.18963


 No.18986

>>18956
>dragon age inquisition
never played it but reviews are good for it and the clips seem decent enough. This is more >>>/games/ content TBH

 No.18992

>>18894
>5th season of what?
KEK

NTA, but i think he meant novel "Fifth Season"

 No.18993

>>18992
Oooooh, that makes sense. a novel called that, kek

 No.18996

>>18110
Eyes Wide Shut is the Dark Souls of movie comparisons.

 No.19006

>>18986

Yeah but the /games/ board is mostly about gameplay and shit, meanwhile I aint really much of a videogame guy, I just got an itch to play something quest-ey because I liked The Green Knight a lot and can't think of many things quite like it

 No.19007

>>19006
Dragon Lance was good back in the day, or at least I remember it being good.
Most things including Dragon Age are just variations on DnD ideas, just as an FYI.

 No.19027

I have been agonizing over if I should start writting a fantasy setting as a hobby. I've already on-and-off tried cooking up ideas for it in my head for like 6 months and its to the point that I have:
>Basic layout for the "special" feature of the setting
>A very basic geography
>Wide-strokes backstory for the setting
>A collection of "cool things" that I want to include (locations, technologies, nations etc)
However I don't really know how to start and try to tie it all up together. Also I am kinda scared I'll just end up creating a cringe nonsense that can't stay self-consistant or is filled with plotholes.
Anyone got advice?

 No.19028

>>19027
>However I don't really know how to start and try to tie it all up together.
Try writing a story to give you a reason to incorporate specific elements of the setting and help focus which parts need more development.

 No.19029

>>18956
Its servicable. First I played it I had the "just left the Star Wars movie theater" vibe of it being the best of the franchise, but a year later now I think Origins still blows it out of the water. In short, hopefully not too spoilery:
>Too few story missions
>Main antagonist is a bit of a meme, Low-Key spoiler: He is hyped up as being super duper bad dude but just comes off as a push-over who only sets cool things in motion around him, while himself staying as a joke
>Gameplay is neither as in-depth as Origins or as fun as the LIDL-WoW combat of DA2.
>Apparently you have to do a bit of grinding of low quality side content in order to progress, I can't say since I was a completionist and did all of it before the main missions, which lead to me having way too much mission-starter points)
What good it does have:
>Very strong characters, basically all but 1 companion were great, while Varrick is probably best companion in an RPG period
>Very good story in everything else aside from main villain
>Good mission design in the few main missions, including some awsome moments as well
>Amazing DLC content (If you ever play the game, you activate the last DLC through your mission table after the last main campaign act, while the other two are integrated in the base game)
>A very strong final ending that still has me hyped for DA4

 No.19030

>>19006
Guessing you are the guy from /games/ who started the "Games like Green Knight" thread. I recommended Dark Souls 2 there. I really think Dark Souls games would be right up you alley in terms of story, adventuring and style. As much as those are memed for their difficulty, I'd argue they shine the most in terms of story, and I fully endorse cheesing and cheating your way through just for that.

 No.19043

>>18993
I have just started reading it and can recommend it. Good stuff.

 No.19053

>>19030

ill give em a check, ive always loved the look of the screenshots ive seen

>>19029

good rundown comrade, ill also check them out

 No.19137


 No.19143

Anyone looking forward to the Wheel of Time adaptation on Prime coming by the end of the year?

>>19027
Start with short stories first. Trying to write a massive epic from scratch is not a good idea.

 No.19242

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>>19137

I really dig these songs


Ah fuck it, I'll give her a shot. What's the worst that can happen?

 No.19438

While the show is pretty cool, I'm not a raving fan of Samurai Jack, it just wasn't my thing, BUT it had a lot of good moments that did stick with me. Video related (the magic worm) was one of them.

The final question seems simple, just ask something inane like 2+2 and deduce the answer by the lie, but that misses the point of the riddle. In the classic riddle, the traveler doesn't need to know which brother lies, he needs to know which path to take. The person in the riddle gets one question. Knowing which one is the liar doesn't help you find the right path or the magic worm, because you don't get to follow it up with any more questions so you don't know what the truth teller or liar would say.

So you ask what the other person would say.

Take the path riddle. Fork in the road, west or east, and two brothers, one liar, one truthful, to ask one question. Let's say west is the correct path.
If you ask Liar what his brother would say, he would lie. Truther would tell you west, because that's the correct path, so Liar would lie and say, "My brother would say go east!"
If you ask Truther what his brother would say, he would tell the truth. Liar would tell you east, because that's the wrong path, so Truther would tell the truth and say, "My brother would say go east!"
Now you know that the liar would tell you east, and the opposite of what the truther would tell you is east, so that proves west is the correct path. If you just asked them, "What's 2+2?" One would say "4!" and one would say "38!", so you would know which one speaks truth and which one tells lies. But you just blew your only question, so you can't use this new information to find the correct path.

 No.19505

Watched Green Knight yesterday becsuse it was recommended here. Honestly, it might just be that I just watched it and its fresh in my mind and all, but I think it might push out Stalker as my favourite film of all time.

 No.19779

>>19505
Neato, sounds fun.


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