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 No.1227[Last 50 Posts]

What if instead of landing in the burger heartland, Kal-El landed in the middle of the Soviet Union?
What if instead of Ma and Pa Kent, the man of steel was raised by the other man of steel?
In light of this thread >>>/leftypol/164364 I think it's time to storytime Superman Red Son.
It's about 150 pages total, over 3 parts.


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That's the introduction. Next comes the comic proper.


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Part 1Red Son Rising


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End of part 1.I'll be back in a few hours with part 2, so there's some time to read and react.


Just from aestethic viewpoint this is gold, I don't even care about the stupid way it ends and the dumb politics. It's full of god tier Soviet imagery, the US superman is a horrible abomination, and that final panel should be framed and hung on the wall of every soiboi.


Reiterating here: The overall story is garbage about how Superman would be a 'good boi' no matter if he was raised by "le evul stalin" or not. The series is basically just "muh gulags" only with superheros. batman is an anarkid shove-in and somehow Lex-Luthor makes America compete with the USSR even when all the world but the USA is controlled under socialism. In the end Brainiac tries to go genocidal and since he is the cybersyn running the soviet planned economy everything falls to shit and Superman comes to a lib-soc conclusion.While over-all it still jerks off "capitalism is great" ideology it has some interesting moments and ideas and character uses such as with Bizzaro Superman and Anarcho-kulak Batman.TL;DR: Rad-lib fap-fantasy about succ-dems triumphing under 'le red fashism'. BUT there were cool aesthetics and actually interesting parts.PS This isn't the first time Superman has gone over to the communist side (pic related)


>The overall story is garbage about how Superman would be a 'good boi' no matter if he was raised by "le evul stalin" or not.
Which is funny because the whole point of Superman is that nurture > nature and muh wholesome murrikan way can make a gud boi out of even a fucking alien.


Gonna post part 2 starting in about 15 minutes.


>Sick of working in a system where, no matter how hard I try, I'm never going to make it to the top of the party now that you're here.
This would be a much better premise.Superhumans being a metaphor for both capitalist states' powers and the enriched themselves.


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Here comes Wonder Woman, also looking pretty gommie.


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This story might have been a lot more interesting if it didn't have the constant tinge of MUH DESTINY


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Batman really should have been in the role they gave Lex Luthor IMO. He's much more appropriate for the contrast they were doing.


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Uh… so since the anarcho storyline is escalating quickly we gotta make anarchists look real bad, so here's Batman abusing wonder woman and enlisting the help of Lex Luthor.


Perhaps Batman is a Trot of some sort.


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Press F to pay respects.
It's the old "anarchists are bourgeois collaborators" like what MLs say about Kronstadt and Rojava.


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Hey look, another Justice League friend.
>ripping off V for Vendetta


>that american flag


>It's the old "anarchists are bourgeois collaborators" like what MLs say about Kronstadt and Rojava.
Rojava is about as Anarchist as the USSR
Krondstat was retarded but these things are neither here nor there.


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And that's the end of part 2. I'll be back in about an hour with part 3, the final part.


I'm not saying it's true, but it's a line you hear from MLs sometimes that anarchists will work with capitalists and imperialists to fight socialists.
Batman might be the dumbest part of the comic since the original character is based so much on a specific person's psychology, and in this universe there just happens to be the same character in a different setting, complete with batcave trophies that make no sense.


free gonk hong


What about that time in 1939 Madrid when anarchists supported a coup by General Casado and the "National Defense Council" who wanted to surrender to Franco


I'm not saying it never happened either. Just that it's a stereotype. Anyway, here comes part 3.


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Part 3Red Son Setting


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So here's Brainiac doing TANS for Supes with Lex does a Trump.


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Here's Green Lantern, burger supersoldier.


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It's neato how the only thing on anybody's mind is destroying superman despite apparent utopic conditions.


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And here's the epilogue…


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thanks anon kinda cringe ending tbh, earth never got saved in the end


All star was better. Red Son is just too contrived especially the Wonder Woman characterization. Her just outright defecting because she can’t get into Supes pants is just stupid.


But IS true anarkiddies’ hate for MLs, their self righteousness and loosed organization make them a prime target for porky subversion.Their hearts are in the right place but their actions usually fuck everything up. Still better than leftcom armchairs tho.


Since there's an adaptation coming, does anybody have thoughts on that? Are they likely to change anything in particular? IMO the strongest point of the comic is the art, and the animation is going to lose a lot of the character. Kind of like the adaptation of The Killing Joke.>>1291As soon as the epilogue started I knew where it was going and my eyes rolled out my damn head.>>1292Wondy was done extremely dirty but I maintain Batman was the most nonsensical and poorly conceived. Given the historical significance of anarchy and Batman's significance in the comics, it's pretty weak how little he's in the story.>>1294Hey I'm not gonna say you're wrong because you're not. That's a very real weakness of anarchy. Don't want to start some sectarian shit, but anarchists' flaws and MLs' flaws could be significantly offset if there was more co-operation and accounting for the differences in strategy.


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Batman: Red Son when?Despite claims by casuals that Batman is an ancap wet dream, he is also anti porky and anti establishment like in pic related or Dark Knight Returns.An actual socialist take on Batman would be kino as fuck


Thanks lad. Reading it rn.


Batman IS porky


>Batman is an ancap wet dream
Says who? Batman's class character is inherently porky and his actions are vigilantism see the Batman thread.


>Batman was the most nonsensical and poorly conceived.
Of course this is what a radlib American view of anarchism. They don’t understand it as inherently leftist but just “anarchy=le no rulez no tax!”.


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>disregards the law, acting as vigilante
>has tons of gadgets invented by his military contractor employees (hypocritically dependent on the government)
>war profiteer
>collects child soldiers
>logo is black and yellow


What is class traitor?



So the movie is out, anyone watch it? Is it any good (fun wise)?


It’s even worse/more libshit than the original. Straight up let Supes kill Stalin and make the incel Wonder Woman plot even more cringe.


Ok, it was recomended by yt. But…HAHAHAHA the video department is fully controlled by libs right (and not even creative ones ,after seeing the killing joke).
Ok, Sups with a caring hearth sees Big Joe go insane and kill him.(Makes sense if you cont the people working on it) But…
How HOW can a person make the Incel WW more cringe enough?


The complete gay as shit muh gulag screeching that’s what.
>Superman to a secret gulag where he finds a dying Svetlana, who was imprisoned there because she knew his real identity. Enraged, Superman confronts Stalin about the gulag and destroys him with his heat vision.
>Batman’s parents were gulaged
This never happened in the book. The only mention of gulag in the comic was that red supes lobotomize people (which is hilarious considering how it was the Soviet Union that pioneered in banning the barbaric practice).
After her depowering incel ww becomes lib and hating all violence but somehow still fought supes when he defended the USSR against the mass produced green lanterns.


I think they find (or thought) that the brainwashed maid army was little enough to show the Eeevil of gommunism.
So Svetlana, was the first love of Sups (wordplay with Lana amirite?)… Really a priority of the state to kill a good soviet citizen. Fucking DC movie studio.


Which I really don’t get since why would Supes identity be hidden? Wouldn’t touting him as a farmer in a collective farm and the pinnacle of Soviet proletarian power like they did with Gagarin makes more sense?
They’re just doing it for arbitrary red scare bullshit to spook the Amerilard watching. Probably because Amerilards would support lobotomy just as they did in the States.


Oh fuck. Right! Hahahahaha. Truly shows who was behind of making this piece of….comic capitalism.


>expecting porky filmmakers to make the USSR make sense
The entire conceit of red scare bullshit is that the communists are deranged madmen whose actions make no sense because they abandoned God.


>Porky literally likens himself to a god


They pretty much did with this version of Luthor.


I unironically like that hammer and sickle "S" logo; would love to have a patch of it.


I fucking KNEW they couldn't even stay to the comic canon… can't make an animated american movie with communism without making it even eviler.


It is a neat logo.


Lmao that panel is golden


What makes it better is that its an edit from where the eye-laser is being used to light Castro's cigar.


USSR is utopia realized.

B-but people don't acrually wanna live in utopia, they wanna live in a shithole world.


red son


I read this as Soyman Superson


checked and based


Can anyone sauce me pic related? It looks awesome (especially the concept of Russian anti-superman drones)


>Darkseid being in any way hurt by robots
Either he's being nerfed or those drones are fucking insane.


kek, just found out this existed. So the movie is 100% bourgeois propaganda?



>Anarcho-kulak Batman.
I don’t think Batman in that comic has ever showed himself being anarchist or espoused any anarchist ideals. Most of his motivations is revenge alone and he acts like any other dime a dozen gusano “colour revolutionary” that liberals like the author love so much. He even get funded by imperialist Luthor, something true anarchists would never do. This incarnation is just as much of an insult towards anarchism as V from the Wachowsky movie.
Btw have you read the authority run by Millar, same idealist liberal shit where they crush the G7 corporations but only replacing the with more woke corporations.
It’s Nu-52 supes. It’s shit.


>something true anarchists would never do


not to mention Batman's main enemy is the Joker who is the ultimate nihilist fedora edgelord


>something true anarchists would never do
&ltWhat is Rojava?


>What is Rojava?
Not anarchist.


Saying a 100% is not enough, I would say that it is 105% with an margin error of 1%.
How the world spins. Last time I checked they were anarchist AND feminist. Now, they are still existing?


Checked where? Twitter?


There’s a difference between funded by imperialism and utilization of inter-imperialist conflicts for revolutionary purposes. Rojava is the latter and this is from a non-anarchist.
Using your line of logic, Fidel, the Vietminh and Lenin would also fit this.


But we need to purity spiral endlessly so nothing ever happens in the real world, instead of celebrating comrades making progress (even if some realpolitik is involved).


Based and armchair pilled.


>Nu-52 supes. It’s shit.
I meant the Darkseid looking fucker, that's Wraith right?


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While overall the movie is not all that great, I think Superman's fight with Superior Man is much better, with Luthor's actions and his own 'patriotism' leading to his gruesome and depressing death. In the comics, his fight with Red Son causes the British to panic and launch a nuke at a city. So Superior Man does a Bizarro and sacrifices himself. While it makes him a sympathetic character, it takes away some of Red Son's legitimacy IMO, which is eh the movie does this scene better.



Something that rather annoyed me was that Red Son Supes is really weak in terms of feats compared to even normal superman… for like no reason at all.


lol he literally starts sputtering amerikkk at the end over and over again


It's not really funny, it's horrifying and pitiful.


do they keep that horrible ending with the soviet union collapsing and luthor creating krypton?


No, Superman pretends to die while sending Braniac's ship into orbit and detonating it, while Luthor and Lois retire, leaving Jimmy Olson to be president and Superman hiding among the population of America.


sounds like the soviet union still collapses. mad cringe, and he lives in america? quad cringe!


It’s a problem with modern, early-2000 writers like Millar. They’re big fans of the type of assholes with guns rather than supes so they’ll wank those guys to oblivion while nerfing people like Superman. Only Morrison do it right.


I don't like OP superman but yeah, him being depowered and normies with guns facing off is ridiculous, Invincible sorta proved that.


These posts are fucking ruined because it's turned into a greentext for some inane reason… when the moderators are more stable, could we have these fixed in the /anime/, /hobby/ and /edu/ boards? It's not every thread, but its in enough of them to seriously be annoying.(This thread is cleared, report any other threads with this issue.)


use report button for these


Ok, will do comrades, I just wanted to make sure that reporting this would be the appropriate action.


On the contrary, millar is the kind of lib who loves capes because it fits his view of western world police. The ultimates 2 exudes Bush era Americanism.



What the hell is this?

Maybe rather than complaining about poor people he should be complaining about rich people not giving adequate funding to all schools . Things like "high school ranking" are stupid. If all schools were properly funded then schools could all give IB and AP classes as options. People who study hard can still get all college credit and IB classes while people who don't study can coast on regular classes. School funding should become a state and federal thing rather than the burden being on local property values.



It seems like thats the problem he's describing. Lower income students means less funding means more rich people leave and creates a underfunded school that has less electives and chances for students to get opportunities in college credit.


Why is this discussion in a SUPERMAN thread?


>Muh Public Schooling
Public Schooling as a rule in the USA is garbage regardless, housing or not. In the Boston area? It's fucking awful most of the time. ESL has nothing to do with it, and if the system tanks because of a large number of illiterate immigrants, than that's a very fragile and shitty system to begin with.

>more rich people leave
They're not leaving anywhere LOL, they weren't going to nor investing in these Public Schools because the rich go to private schools, OR the Public School is just a token diploma path before jumping into college through some pocket-padded recommendations.

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