Anonymous 2021-06-02 (Wed) 09:25:03 No. 16137
>>16134 What does punk even mean anymore?
christian_communism Christian Communism Anonymous 2021-06-02 (Wed) 09:49:34 No. 16139
>>16137 >>16138 Nothing, it's basically archaic language at this point.
Anonymous 2021-06-02 (Wed) 10:33:29 No. 16140
>>16137 >>16138 >>16139 the "punk" is a stereotype of a person who does not conform to the current system, a person who does not follow the rules and is very rebellious, etc…
All these literary styles that are called punk is because they propose a way out of the current society or because they have a character or characters that fit in the definition of punk that I have given before. Cyberpunk is a style that exists as a warning of what will happen if we continue to exist within the current system, and Solarpunk serves as a platform to imagine a future outside the system focused mainly on ecology.
But it is true that during the last years the style has been reduced to an aesthetic and has lost all its political significance.
anarcho-communism Anarcho-Communism Anonymous 2021-06-02 (Wed) 15:49:55 No. 16156
Does solarpunk even exist? Like it started as a post on tumblr and it existed just as that for a while, have any novels on this genre come out already?
Anonymous 2021-06-02 (Wed) 21:05:20 No. 16157
>>16156 There are enough of them to consider it as its own genre, but it still lacks a work that will take it to the mainstream.
Anonymous 2021-06-02 (Wed) 23:51:50 No. 16158
>>16134 >solarpunk <just solar technology with woketards walking around Where’s the punk again?
Anonymous 2021-06-03 (Thu) 02:43:45 No. 16168
The only "solarpunk" setting I can think of is Mobile Suit Gundam 00. The world's superpowers control access to all the solar power and everyone else lives in misery.
Anonymous 2021-06-03 (Thu) 02:55:49 No. 16171
>>16134 I hate it; I hate everything about it. I especially hate the greenwashed, "sustainable" architectural renderings that people jack off to in Solarpunk literary circles—as if that aesthetic hasn't already been adopted by Big Tech! OP, your image
literally has one of the fucking Amazon Spheres in it! Have you seen their "Helix" design for HQ2? I'm just imagining cities using crop dusters to maintain their plant-covered skyscrapers, and residents getting mouthfuls of pesticides and fertilizer. These are monuments to the preservation of Capital's robbery of nature; simple as. One could almost be forgiven for thinking Solarpunk's anti-capitalism has always been surface-level. Its incessantly idealist, prefigurative politics caught the attention of some of the most obnoxious people I know. Their vision of the future can be reduced to a kind of Socialism with Chobani® Characteristics. I think Salvagepunk is a much more compelling alternative, although the folks at
https://salvage.zone/ droning on about the "Proletarocene" will never not be funny. Still, the future won't be as green as you hope for; best come to terms with that now rather than later. Actually existing sustainable housing projects like ZEDFactory's BowZED or public housing estates like Goldsmith Street are a far cry from anything tumblr artists were coming up with almost a decade ago, and all for the better. Eco-Socialists take note.
Anonymous 2021-06-03 (Thu) 19:52:54 No. 16205
>>16134 It's the faggiest, tumblrite aesthetic in genre fiction. There isn't even anything 'punk' about it. It's part of a trend of retarded millennials and zoomers breaking down the meaning of any genre suffix they get their hands on because they're too lazy to educate themselves on anything.
Anonymous 2021-06-03 (Thu) 21:55:10 No. 16214
>>16135 Hell yeah. Solar brutalism!
Anonymous 2021-06-04 (Fri) 12:21:49 No. 16227
ITT>It’s bad because…BECAUSE IT IS This is what happens when you have the mindset of an edgy pol faggot while pretending that you don’t
Anonymous 2021-06-04 (Fri) 21:36:58 No. 16243
>>16171 >waaaaahhhh porky is co-opting this visually appealing aesthetic >that makes the archeticture bourgeois >instead we have to adopt something ugly to signal that we are really different from the capitalists brain worms
Anonymous 2021-06-04 (Fri) 23:28:33 No. 16244
>>16242 Huh, I still like it. Looks neat.
Anonymous 2021-06-05 (Sat) 06:58:21 No. 16252
>>16227 What
it is (i.e. a literary movement w/ a fetish for New Urbanism and greenwashed ornamentation, as well as Chobani® futurism or the "Ghiblification" of life under monopoly capital) is very different from what it
ought to be (i.e. a literary movement that seeks to interrogate the metabolic rift w/ theories of planetary urbanization all the while supporting a full-on assault against climate apartheid regimes). I think it's interesting how some of the original Solarpunk stories sometimes attempted to depict this, and mostly came from Brazil. It reminds me of a quote that often gets mistakenly attributed to JG Ballard: "The periphery is where the future reveals itself." I always saw a kinda of favela chic in both Solarpunk and Salvagepunk; but it was the latter that presented a much more grounded aesthetic commonality to me, speaking as someone who grew up in the Rust Belt. Of course, São Paulo or Rio are much denser than say, St Louis or Detroit but no matter what, it's hard to retain a childlike optimism for the future when you're surrounded by industrial blight that actively risks polluting your drinking water. I think recognizing that our world has been irrevocably structured as an apocalyptic wasteland that's gradually unfolding is a great reference point, and that the best future we can hope for now quite literally is a salvaged or repurposed one. There ain't nothing wrong with a little despair.
>>16243 Moronic post. To say porky is adopting the Solarpunk "aesthetic" is actually giving the subgenre and its artists too much credit. Big Tech was getting into sustainable architecture well before 2014; it's just a testament to how utterly unimaginative and ignorant of art history these tumblr artists were. What shreds of afrofuturist influence was at last somewhat interesting; but I rarely see that anymore. Also, BowZED and Goldsmith Street look fucking amazing. Again, that's what good, actually existing sustainable housing looks like—notice the lack of lawns on their roofs or jungles on their balconies; amazing! If all you're concerned with are simple façade changes, then you might as well become a trad architecture revivalist instead. Hell, you'd probably fit in with the New Urbanists.
Anonymous 2021-06-05 (Sat) 12:06:23 No. 16255
>>16252 >Solarpunk is bad because it is hopeful and we should just accept life becoming irreparably shit Please kys
Anonymous 2021-06-07 (Mon) 22:02:23 No. 16288
>>16205 this drives me crazy. not to put down trans people but what the hell does transgender even mean? across gender? through gender? spanning gender? they just took transsexual, which accurately describes what it's meant to, and swapped sexual for gender to create a word that seemingly describes nothing. the english language is wonderful in writing (speaking not so much) and it's being massacred by lazy idiots. i now understand why the prescriptivists has such a stick up their ass in the late 20th century.
Anonymous 2021-06-24 (Thu) 08:26:33 No. 16956
>>16843 Honestly the only real problem with solarpunk is that society is rarely reimagined in these paintings, just plastered with green everywhere
Anonymous 2021-06-24 (Thu) 21:48:02 No. 16983
Who are the great solarpunk architects?
Anonymous 2021-06-25 (Fri) 06:21:19 No. 16997
>>16956 I mean TBF they usually portray neighbourhoods that look much more communal, residences close to shops and workplaces, little or no advertising, low or no carbon forms of transport, more walkable friendly commute, and so on, I feel like you're not looking hard enough
Anonymous 2021-06-25 (Fri) 14:21:46 No. 17007
>>16997 no he's right, that's mostly dated / bad design with some green added
better than nothing i guess
Anonymous 2021-07-12 (Mon) 08:27:46 No. 17867
>>16171 you should write an article on this.
Anonymous 2021-07-13 (Tue) 01:13:00 No. 17875
any GOOD solarpunk media
Anonymous 2021-07-13 (Tue) 02:57:25 No. 17879
>>17684 Can someone scrub the company/ad aspect from this please
Anonymous 2021-07-13 (Tue) 20:32:43 No. 17885
>>16171 So, soulless steel and glass shit and housing blocks?
>>16242 I lived near it. Nothing but concrete, and it house a small mall.
>>16843 While looking good, it's just an arcology.
>Trees >Without roots >>17008 A bit better than the regular vertical sleep factory.
>>17684 Dave, from the marketing department just mashed together all the things hipsters like. Please buy our shit now.
Anonymous 2021-07-13 (Tue) 23:17:47 No. 17889
>>16134 mfw sociacucks actually believe in this xd
Anonymous 2021-08-31 (Tue) 23:56:09 No. 19386
>>16240 >>16227 It's an unrealistic grift at this point, and unlike Steampunk, who don't pretend it could or should be real, or Cyberpunk which is dystopian and based on future computer technology by default - people continue to try and promote solarpunk as realistic and positive, when its neither. Any PUNK aesthetic is linked to dystopias or post-apocalyptic scenarios or some kind of social conflict, that's why it's a PUNK setting.
Anonymous 2021-09-01 (Wed) 00:08:26 No. 19387
i like aspects of solarpunk but don't think it's cohesive or cool enough to work on its own, its best integrated into other things
Anonymous 2021-09-05 (Sun) 21:56:15 No. 19470
This is what I imagine r/neoliberal types get off to. Completely soulless glass penises with tacked on greenery.
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