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Does this website have anything meaningful to say in terms of media analysis or are their tropes just invented by a couple of redditors that wanted to develope a niche project?
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>>21494
>They deleted those pages though
liberals and libertarians took over the site.

 

>>21455
I just use the place for finding fanfiction for fandoms I like.

 

>>21460
this this this

 

I appreciate that it catalogs cliches so that they can be avoided or deconstructed or inverted

 

>>21455
It's good to search for a trope you know but don't have a name for. People who use it thinking tropes are bad don't know how storytelling works.

 

Peak anglo boxing (quite literally).

 

It's a shame All The Tropes basically failed

 

>>35014
A trope or cliche doesn't make them bad you know, changing something for the sake of change is just going to create a mess, there's a trope and cliche for just about everything. >>35015 THIS

 

>>21455
I just realized that TV-Tropes has been around for roughly 20 years, and I was there for all of it. What the fuck.

 

>>24606
The problem is just their tendency to try to make the list as long as possible, regardless of how unrelated the works being listed are.

You can have a trope called something like A Woman With Red Hair and you can bet that under the examples of the A Woman With Red Hair trope, someone will cite: Chuubo's Piss Fetish Universe (averted): Women have brown hair in Chuubo's Piss Fetish Universe.

 

>>36607
>Chuubo's Piss Fetish Universe.
Anon, I… what? Why?

 

>>36608
Don't worry, I made that up because i couldn't remember the actual example I was thinking of

 

>>36622
>66 22
Alright, you check out. Gave me a scare there. Did you manage to remember the example BTW?

 

>>36626
Nah, it was some kinda webnovel thing that tried to attract more readership by just being present in every trope page, insisting that it had every trope or DIDN'T have that trope and that was also worth mentioning on that trope page.

 

>>36632
LMAO that's so cringe.

 

>>36632
The Whateley Universe?

 

>>36634
Aw fuck, yes, that was it

 

>>36591
i have no opinion on tv tropes or whatever but yeah these major internet cultural touchstones and online collaborative projects all peaked 20 years ago, if you're an older millenial who had internet as a kid, you probably are emotionally attached to some goon project or some obscure vbulletin board or whatever. it was all downhill from then.

 

>>36657
There's so much garbage on the internet now it's impossible to really get new stuff started or get attention for any unique projects/ideas

 

>>36657
I'm not significantly emotionally invested in that or stuff like Newgrounds etc. but it's a bit nostalgic, in part because modern GenZ shit is stupider than the shit back then - capitalist decay.

 

>>21494
>>21496
If anyone has the htmls for those pages you can try to locate them on archive.is and/or wayback archive.

 

tvtropes is for sellouts, rel commies use allthetropes

 

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>>21460
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE CONNECTIONS, YOU HAVE TO WATCH THE GOOD GUY BEAT THE BAD GUY IN EVERY MARVEL MOVIE OVER AND OVER AND NOT NOTICE THE PATTERNS IN THE PLOTS

 


 

It's funny how TVTropes became popular almost entirely from things totally ancillary to its supposed purpose of objectively documenting common media tropes. People liked the oh-so-funny fan snark, the collaborative joke pages under "Just for Fun", opinionated non-tropes such as "Nightmare Fuel" and "Funny Moments", the "real life examples" (which aren't even tropes as reality isn't scripted), but who came there for the actual tropes?

Honestly I think for many people the masturbatory "community" elements like the meta pages about the wiki itself and arguing in the forums became more important than actually editing the wiki at all, and even when they did edit the actual Trope pages, the ones about "cool" things like "Big Glowing Sword", got far more attention than less "cool" tropes but with more legitimate cultural significance. Well, either those or ones called like "Really Annoying Guy" where it's in theory about "really annoying guys" in fiction but we all know everyone just immediately skipped to the "real life" folder to make fun of celebrities and politicians and ignored the boring rest of the page.

Oh, and of course editing pages on their favorite media not because it genuinely has a particularly significant number of tropes but because they wanna use the page as an excuse to talk about it because everyone must know that thing exists and that they like thing.

 

>>42306
caring about this seems incredibly autistic anon, it's still a useful resource I guess for anyone that cares about that kind of thing and it's fun to have somewhere to discuss media.

 

>>42307
Why even have any threads at all, right?

 

>>42308
ok fine I mean sure you can complain about it, sorry I guess

 

anything popular inevitably becomes bad
more people = more idiots

 

their administration moves at a glacial rate and you get stuff like all articles about porn, even golden age films, banned due to an archaic rule but can still have articles about the turner diaries or antivaxxer books with zero issues

>>42310
if anything its getting less bad now that its moved on past its "snarky fanboy who finds xkcd and channel awesome funny" roots

 

it's not really uncommon for stuff to get popular for unexpected reasons, nor is it bad

 

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Yeah I still use the site regularly. Going straight into the TvTropes page of any media I just finished has become something of a ritual to me and as you said, the Trivia and YMMV sections are usually the biggest draw and the most fun to read.
But yeah, the site's culture and humor seems to be permanently stuck in the late 2000s-early 2010s and not for the best, it's not uncommon to find references to shit like Channel Awesome and Linkara even in recent stuff.

 

>>42313
can we complain about how bad and pointless the 'storylines' in channel awesome stuff was/is instead?

 

>>42314
Yeah very hit and miss stuff from people who clearly overestimated their own capabilities in writing and directing a story. Still, I can't go full-on hater like some video essays out there who say shit like "yo, Doug's Walker life is an existential nightmare like in Perfect Blue and he hates every second of it!" and still respect their attempts at diversifying their content in the early age of YouTube even if it ended in awfully boring stuff most of the time.

 

>>42315
I respect the fact that they wanted to do something creative like the movies and TV and shit they watch but the stuff like Linkara's videos where he's an uber superhero in character as Linkara is just embarrassing. I wouldn't say it to the guy's face but come on having a recurring storyline where you play like 5 characters in it which is just you in different outfits is just beyond belief.

I mean I guess I can't hate though because it's that confidence which led them to become successful creators in the first place, personally I put way too much perfectionism into my videos to the point that I got too stressed out to ever make any and got sad I didn't instantly become popular

 

I liked TV tropes because it was a list of cliches to avoid or subvert when writing. I especially appreciated the "laconics" that summarized the article and the "subversion" suggestions. I did not like when they started policing adblockers. Nationalize the internet.

 

>>42317
>cliches to avoid or subvert when writing
thats not what tropes are god damn

 

>>42317
clichés are tropes,but tropes aren't clichés,and thinking you can just subvert them and write a good story is pure pseud thinking.

 

>>42319
yeah thats how you get shit like homestuck

 

>>42320
Damn I'm reading Homestuck now and I'm like half way through and kinda enjoying it but like fucking damn I have no clue what's going on half the time and there's way too much meta shit

 

>>42321
it drops the ball HARD after around/after the 5th act

 

>>42322
I just got through act 6 intermission 1, I just wanted to see the shipping and romance stuff, this cycles within cycles and universes within universes stuff just confuses me

 

>>42323
trust me, the most confused person was the author when writing all that shit, especially when trying to tie all the loose ends

 

>>42324
Honestly I wouldn't even notice any loose ends being tied up or not at this point.

I dunno I'm kinda tempted to stop reading but like I say I like the shipping and I wanna play those troll dating Sims.

 

>>42325
maybe read a summary online. i regret wasting all that time reading the latter half of homestuck tbh

 

>>42326
I don't have especially great memories of the latter half of problem sleuth so yeah idk maybe. But I'm an unemployed waste anyway I have nothing but time

 

>>42327
i mean youre already saying youre utterly confused and im warning you it only gets worse from here. problem sleuth is considered hussies magnum opus so if you didnt like that one… yeah

 

>people like to talk about things they like
wow its like ur a genious or something


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