/hobby/ - Hobby

>>44905
Are they on twitter? They're on fedi too and that's what I associate them with.
https://mastodon.sdf.org/@keith

>>44915
i agree
twitter issz bad.

>>44892
Keith must be one of the last of the old Newgrounds guard to not go crazy, an achievement on its own.

So I watched Cartoonshi's video on some anti-SJW cartoon critic. I agree with Cartoonshi on about 95% of his points but I think accusing the other YouTuber of "borderline racism" is just an ad hominem to brush off any criticism of forced diversity in media with a lot of neglect towards the culture war environment we live in right now. Yes, that anti-SJW critic doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to Static Shock or A New Wish and also A New Wish having a black protagonist doesn't instantly make the show bad (people are saying the show's good actually) but that doesn't mean that his concerns about forced diversity are not valid or have racist dogwhistling in them.

With that said, you can't add a black main character without the accusations of forced diversity and we sadly didn't even have queer characters in main roles at all before 2016 or so unlike in Japan (or in any roles in the majority of stuff produced for that matter) so I tend to focus on the actual quality of the product instead of making conspiracy theories on whether or not this or that character was added because of tokenism… well, except for Disney and American AAA publishers, they're not even trying to be subtle about it.

>>44996
>but that doesn't mean that his concerns about forced diversity are not valid or have racist dogwhistling in them

well, okay, what are these concerns and what exactly makes them valid

>>45005
>well, okay, what are these concerns and what exactly makes them valid
Replacing white characters with black characters for no apparent reason other than pandering because it always feels like executive meddling and nothing good comes out of executive meddling (I do think we didn't get queer couples on TV before because of that very executive meddling). Although to be perfectly honest, in the case of Fairly OddParents, replacing Timmy with LITERALLY ANYONE ELSE would upset the fanbase anyway. Again, the show's probably good. It's lucky to have great writers then, it could've been a cash grab.

And I truly think A.C.T. Air didn't bother to watch the show at all, wanting to make a quick sensational video because that'll give him more views.

Remember what they took from you, Mario fans.

>>45006
We used to just call it "tokenism" because they would put a character in the thing just to say they did but not actually represent what it's like to be a person like that or usually even give them much of a character.

They should make a show called There's Only White People and play it absolutely straight.

>>45129
>We used to just call it "tokenism" because they would put a character in the thing just to say they did but not actually represent what it's like to be a person like that or usually even give them much of a character.
I mean, that's fair. I was just saying that I get why conservatives make these conspiracy theories about a new Hollywood-produced work featuring a minority in a lead role being "woke," I do not think their concerns are always justified however. Besides, you can still enjoy a show if it's good unless it's an actual pandering or race swapping.

Some rightoids cannot be excused however like that racist Synthetic Man and that homophobe Andypants Gaming.

some nordic country made an osmosis jones ass movie but about the sperm in ur balls. how do u feel about that?

>>45152
>how do u feel about that?
Sounds funny. The girl's hot btw.

This comic/show is retarded. Mark forgave his dad for using him as a blunt instrument to murder an entire train of people and hundreds others, but he can't forgive a guy who turned his best friend's lover into a robot who's still technically kept locked up, just doing his experiments on donated corpses instead. Btw Mark turns into a space UN soldier at the end of the comic lmfao.

>>45154
I think the point is that your close ones are easier to forgive, we're usually less empathetic to people we're not deeply attached to. Yes, it's hypocritical. But what else did you expect?

>>45157
It's a coming of age comic with superhero dressing. Mark reconciling with his dad is symbolic of them overcoming their generational conflict, namely mark rejecting the cultural expectation to follow in his father's footsteps and Omniman's own coming to terms with his changing role as a father.

>>45154
Let's be real, Cyril works for the US government. Omniman could use Mark to kill everyone currently occupying a train on the planet and would still have to spend years catching up in terms of evil deeds.

But really Mark not just killing him in a fit of pique is supposed to reflect well on him. You've got a teenager in power fantasy land that's literally unstoppable and he's actually showing restraint, especially after this guy used his other dimensional bodies to make remote controlled zombie warcrime machines and made unsubtly veiled threats regarding his mom and brother. He's lucky he just got choked a little and Mark didn't just remove all his bones one by one with his bare hands.

>>45159
>killing countless people as a civilian: eh
>working for the government: literal hitler
if youre going to bring up morality at least dont be such a moron

>>45160
I was being facetious you fucking retard.

>>45140
>I mean, that's fair. I was just saying that I get why conservatives make these conspiracy theories about a new Hollywood-produced work featuring a minority in a lead role being "woke," I do not think their concerns are always justified however.
Well it's easy for them to do it because 1. showbusiness is very formulaic so this stuff is always shallow and 2. the producers know that they will get lots of free advertising from the chud complainers if they race swap some characters or whatever. It's an ecosystem where both of these sides are feeding off each other producing slop for the respective viewers. The culture war is just a marketing gimmick.

Fucking boomers, man.

>>45162
>the producers know that they will get lots of free advertising from the chud complainers if they race swap some characters or whatever
The producers are playing 5D chess.

What's the deal with Castlevania? It seems like it's supposed to be set in a world like ours, but then you've got Dracula, demons, vampire aristocrats, magic mirrors that can transport people thousands of miles instantly, remote viewing mirrors that can show you whatever you want to see, and magic is actually real and something that can be studied and learned.

Like, I dunno, it seems like any one of these things would have major repercussions on how the world works and the advancement of history. I mean, Hell is real apparently and people can learn to just pluck demons out of it and put them into bodies, which they can then control. You've got one guy that's just born with the ability to raise animals back from the dead.

I'm only in season 3 of the first series now and it's a lot of fun, and I'm trying to just turn my brain off and not worry about it, but it keeps nagging at me. Apparently in the next season there's the French revolution and the US apparently exists, which is also pretty nuts. Like what are the implications for the enlightenment when you live in a world with magic and demons and you know that Hell in fact is real? I remember reading in school how in response to European colonialism, several African tribes slaughtered all their livestock to try and raise an undead army to fight them off, only to subsequently starve to death. Okay, but this is a world where something like that should work. How are redcoats going to fight an army of African zombies? Are the British employing wizards of their own? Are they blessing their musket balls before combat? Is Ben Franklin an immortal sorcerer using his arcane sex magic for the cause of liberty? What the hell is going on.

What should I watch if I liked The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack?

>>45306
The adventures of baron Munchausen

>>45307
Thanks.

Started watching Spawn. I've never read the comics but this is pretty good, wondering if he'll ever wrestle with being a butcher in Vietnam or if they just treat it as backstory.

>>45254
In the series we find out that vampires pretty much have their own kingdoms/lands where I assume they control the economy and local people. Produce weapons, take care of infrastructure, build castles, extract resources, house and feed the vampire soldiers, all of that demands resources, people and some kind system to allocate resources, and absolutely none of it is ever explained.

>>45396
Yeah, and I want an explanation >:(

Bros…?

>>45427
I don't get it. I used to watch the Moral Orel show but I don't think I've seen every episode but many of them.

>>45396
that's true of most countries controlled by "bad guys" in fiction tbh,nobody wants to think about the logistics of running a country size concentration camp (it would run like shit)

>>45427
starburns?

Watched The Thief and the Cobbler. Princess Yum Yum indeed. Shame how unfinished it is but it has its moments.
While reading up on it I came across some other animations with impressively long production times. One of them is the film in the OP so I'll have to watch that but what caught my eye is a Russian animation that is still being made–The Overcoat by Yuri Norstein. He's been working on it since 1981 and is in his 80's now so hopefully he lives to complete it.

WB is so in the shitter they want to sell the whole Looney Tunes trademark lol.

you guys heard of ongezellig? it's a web cartoon that a bunch of grew a chuddy fan base

>>45482
oh neat

I find people whining about the swearing in Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel silly. Very few TV shows get casual swearing right, like casual swearing is far more common than even most TV shows will depict. On TV, people generally say "fuck" either for emphasis (anger, sassiness, etc.) or to mark them out as a crude and "hard" person (think Tony Soprano using it).

You rarely see uses like the use of "fucking" as an equivalent of "um" when searching for a word in any but the most heavily profane (usually to the point of being infamous for such) shows, or, as mentioned, to portray a character as especially crude or mean. But I'm just some awkward introverted tgirl and I swear at least that often in casual friendly conversation. Social swearing is a huge thing you rarely see on TV. And when you do people call it gratuitous! Because realistic dialogue sounds fake on TV!

>>45573
I agree.

t. uses "fucking" as "um" anon

>>45573
you have to have twin-turbo terminal autism if you think vivzie can write >realistic dialogue, it sounds more like reddit thread convos being read out loud rather than >realistic dialogue

>>45573
there are things you can critique about the show but the whole swearing thing was made up in bad faith by twitter users copying each other opinion or haven't watch any 90's to 2000's show/movies, just to bitch about something, acting like puritan wannabes as if it's changes anything.

>>45579
twitter user spotted

>>45573
>>45584
I completely agree but this was still hilarious to me.

>>42752
>I legitimately hate Invincible. It's such rubbish. There's no consistent world building, and no themes other than exciting alien superhero vs CIA and good guys!!! I hate superheroes.
I'm really trying to get into invincible but the dialogue is absolute fucking garbage. The story writing so far has been incredibly plain and boring. The animation is extremely boring and looks cheap as fuck.

Why is this show so popular again? Reminds me of neo yokio….

>>45615
It's basically western shonenshit.

>>45616
But at least shonen has better dialogue and animation, idk. It's all one liners and awkward 2D characters and plain boring conversations. None of them even have particularly interesting personalities if any. In fact, most of the characters have the exact same personality.

I guess the story is a bit interesting but everything else feels muted and poorly done. And it's not that western cartoons can't pull this off… It feels like the budget was insanely small, at least compared to its seemingly big popularity.

>>45618
I'm willing to bet you don't know Japanese. Shonen dialogue is often so bad in the original language that fansubs ironically end up being better a lot of the time, by avoiding repetitive word usage for example. One recent example of bad dialogue in shonen anime I can think of is Frieren. Holy shit that show has poorly written dialogue

>>45615
it's ok as far as "wot if superman but he wuz evil" kind of writing goes. i couldn't stand the boys, so that should tell you something. it annoys me how many simpletons the show attracts though, too many free-thinkers who think the CIA dude is great, as if the show wasn't bending itself backwards to make that character look as good as possible, it's nolan batman levels of glowie propaganda lol

>>45620
You say the writing is bad and the show bends over backwards to make Cecil look good but the show regularly shows you that he's an opportunistic piece of shit. Every evil thing Mark defeats he gives to the boys in the research lab. he even takes a Dr. Mengele tier criminal and puts him at the head of the GDA's corpse desecration program

>>45619
I don't speak Japanese, and I do expect the japanese dialogue to be garbage in most animes. Even the subs and dubs are frequently garbage too.

An example of what I mean in Invincible. Episode season 1 episode 5. Some dude goes to a mafia boss to finish paying his debt. The Mafia boss says he's too valuable to let him simply leave. The dude gets enraged and breaks the boss's desk. The tone is serious and the dude looks distressed.

Then a ridiculous exchange happens. First of all, the boss isn't intimidated. Then he starts mockingly screaming "yeah, see! See! Impressive shit like that is exactly why I'm never letting you go!" right in the dude with superpowers face. It doesn't make sense, he's being blackmailed into serving this mafia boss just for being strong? It's idiotic. It's not blackmail. Nothing keeps him from serving this random ass boss. Besides, can't the strong dude just kill the boss?

Then the tone changes completely into a comic one-liner tone, the boss says "plus, now you gotta pay for the desk, too 😜. This is imported Italian maple! 😜". It's not funny. It breaks the supposed seriousness of the scene. It's a super dumb one liner. And the series is filled with this type of unfunny shitty wink wink "jokes".

>>45640
It's like it's written by a sheltered white guy that thinks saying phrases like "that's gonna leave a mark!" and "you're barking up the wrong tree!" is the pinnacle of humor.

>>45591
Then you would probably like any [EDITED] video or ytp from back in the day.
It's just that, but users back then genuinely enjoyed them instead of being smug and acting like the reddit atheist of yesteryear; you just can't like the funny swear video alone, it has to be against someone or be only "''ironic'" even when it's not even accurate, again act like you have to be superior a "superior" redditor instead just liking the funny swears.