A general for "western" animations/cartoons.
Gonna start off with a recommendation to watch The King and the Mockingbird the 1980 version especially, absolutely comrade-pilled movie.
Good torrent sites (massive pop-up warning, put on an adblocker):
https://kimcartoon.li/CartoonListhttps://rarbg.to/torrents.php?category=movieshttps://rarbg.to/torrents.php?category=2;18;41;49>>45573I agree.
t. uses "fucking" as "um" anon
>>45573there are things you can critique about the show but the whole swearing thing was made up in bad faith by twitter users copying each other opinion or haven't watch any 90's to 2000's show/movies, just to bitch about something, acting like puritan wannabes as if it's changes anything.
>>45579twitter user spotted
>>42752>I legitimately hate Invincible. It's such rubbish. There's no consistent world building, and no themes other than exciting alien superhero vs CIA and good guys!!! I hate superheroes.I'm really trying to get into invincible but the dialogue is absolute fucking garbage. The story writing so far has been incredibly plain and boring. The animation is extremely boring and looks cheap as fuck.
Why is this show so popular again? Reminds me of neo yokio….
>>45616But at least shonen has better dialogue and animation, idk. It's all one liners and awkward 2D characters and plain boring conversations. None of them even have particularly interesting personalities if any. In fact, most of the characters have the exact same personality.
I guess the story is a bit interesting but everything else feels muted and poorly done. And it's not that western cartoons can't pull this off… It feels like the budget was insanely small, at least compared to its seemingly big popularity.
>>45619I don't speak Japanese, and I do expect the japanese dialogue to be garbage in most animes. Even the subs and dubs are frequently garbage too.
An example of what I mean in Invincible. Episode season 1 episode 5. Some dude goes to a mafia boss to finish paying his debt. The Mafia boss says he's too valuable to let him simply leave. The dude gets enraged and breaks the boss's desk. The tone is serious and the dude looks distressed.
Then a ridiculous exchange happens. First of all, the boss isn't intimidated. Then he starts mockingly screaming "yeah, see! See! Impressive shit like that is exactly why I'm never letting you go!" right in the dude with superpowers face. It doesn't make sense, he's being blackmailed into serving this mafia boss just for being strong? It's idiotic. It's not blackmail. Nothing keeps him from serving this random ass boss. Besides, can't the strong dude just kill the boss?
Then the tone changes completely into a comic one-liner tone, the boss says "plus, now you gotta pay for the desk, too 😜. This is imported Italian maple! 😜". It's not funny. It breaks the supposed seriousness of the scene. It's a super dumb one liner. And the series is filled with this type of unfunny shitty wink wink "jokes".
>>45591Then you would probably like any [EDITED] video or ytp from back in the day.
It's just that, but users back then genuinely enjoyed them instead of being smug and acting like the reddit atheist of yesteryear;
you just can't like the funny swear video alone,
it has to be against someone or be only "''ironic'" even when it's not even accurate, again act like you have to be
superior a "superior" redditor instead just liking the funny swears.
>>46596I hate to give it to that loser John K but he's right that the general problem is that Western animation has been focused on the writing for the longest time. This is true even of current "indie" darlings or supposed saviors of the form like Smiling Friends.
There's some cool visionary shit on YouTube like umami, but that's never gonna lead to a sustainable career or big official projects for anyone. [as] had a brief period where they funded more daring experimental things but that's probably over. Story is all normies care about.
>>46598>[as] had a brief period where they funded more daring experimental things but that's probably over. We're never getting another 12 Oz Mouse.
Fun fact: one of the reasons he was so lenient on passion projects like The Venture Bros was because they included a short golf scene in a single episode. That's literally it. Then Lazzo lost his shit and wanted everything to be a gore-filled shitfest and then retired and executives clamped down even harder.
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