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A general for "western" animations/cartoons.
Gonna start off with a recommendation to watch The King and the Mockingbird the 1980 version especially, absolutely comrade-pilled movie.

Good torrent sites (massive pop-up warning, put on an adblocker):


I'm gonna start off with a recommendation you read the catalog.


i did



>Король и птица
Man I have that on disc, it´s a pretty trippy film.


it's a masterpiece


animation is a distinct artform


The scam of NFT "cartoons"


im not watching that shit. post actual cartoons


I know artists tend to be retarded in general but they really can't articulate any criticism against NFTs other than "muh environment". I'd rather read actual left economists with actual arguments against them like Varoufakis.


>they really can't articulate any criticism against NFTs other than "muh environment"
Did you watch the video? It has nothing to do with environment. And that's ignoring the fact that it's not just "lol muh enviro" see >>>/edu/8686


Why should I use that weird site instead of pirate bay?

>Король и птица

I'm not seeing that one anywhere? Please post english title as well.


the king and the mockingbird


tl;dr his conclusion is
>I want to believe NFTs could work and help artists but right now it's to "corrupted" and is a scam.
Reminder that if you think NFTs are a good idea you are a rube. This video goes into way more depth explaining just how bullshit they are (over 2 hours) if you somehow need to have it explained to you in simple terms.


>right now it's to "corrupted" and is a scam
and it will stay that way under capitalism


NFTs are a scam regardless. They wouldn't make sense under communism. The whole point is to take something that is not scarce and make it scarce so that you can speculate on it and so supply is a factor in price. It's fundamentally reactionary.


I hate "artists" with a passion. They might be some of the biggest defenders of capitalism.


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They're bringing back Futurama. Again. Again again.


Disenchantment wasn't working out?


They couldn't get DiMaggio back for this though. Why even try.


Goddamnit can't anything nice just stay dead? It was getting pretty unfunny in the last few Comedy Central seasons, I can only imagine how much worse it could get.


A really good cartoon from the 90s/early 2000s are the various series by Adelaide Pictures, particularly, Men in Black, Godzilla: The Series and Extreme Ghostbusters (vid related).

The Extreme Ghostbusters (for example) is a cool show, but more importantly does something that modern "diversity" cartoons fail at. The characters are diverse but don't make it a forced point: A latino, a handicapped guy, a black guy, and a goth girl. It was entertaining, had creepy monsters, and didn't feel politically forced. To top it off, it's not a remake, they're the successors to the original Ghostbusters. They also do address ideas like racism but engagingly. For example (spoiler), an episode where a Jewish boy brings a golem to life to keep a bunch of racist thugs (which so happen to be Garrett's old friends) from desecrating his father's synagogue. Moreover instead of making Garrett look like a Anti-PC jerk when Roland brought their racism up, it portrayed Garrett as being unaware of his childhood friends being "Neo-Nazis" and when he discovered that Roland was right and after saving the day he let the authorities rightfully arrest them saying that they were no longer his friends because of the hate crimes they committed and that his real friends were Roland and the rest of the Ghostbusters.

So yeah, really recommend this


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>Futurama but Billy West does all the male characters


and still gets paid less than Katy Sagal, since she did live action in one semi-popular tv show in the 90s


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I recommend Argentina film Ico that you can find below, not the /co/ sub but still fine.


The new Transformers Earthspark kinda looks interesting and a return to form, though the 3D CG of the kids is kinda generic, but otherwise neat.


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Green Bart says LAND BACK


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Fucking AS, man. Though nothing will be as mean spirited as what they did to Metalocalypse.


have this vague memory of a babar episode where he’s in this modern industrial city but it’s in ruins
can’t find it


This sounds vaguely familiar and I think it had been a Planet of the Apes reference.


Anyone know if the Bucky o'Hare site is dead? It doesn't give an error just never loads


People dunk on Rick and Morty, but it's still a thousand times better than whatever the fuck Smiling Friends is


it's a pretty average adult swim show, but the average adult swim show is bad. most people i talk to like it because that guy from oneyplays made it. he comes across as an asshole so i never got into the hype


Will watch later, but…
>Calarts reactsona
>Daring to call any artstyle shit
Glass houses much? I would honestly have to give a long and proper think before deciding if calarts is any better than the mass produced randomgen diarhea that is the ape artstyle.


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you know what dude? fuck you, ok


what sort of chemicals did you have to ingest to get so wrong


Love this film


I loathe Persepolis because its just boring and very eyeroll worthy but April and the Extraordinary World is certainly interesting.


Recess 2 when?

anybody ever watch the freakazoid making of special? it's wild how ill prepared they were making the show

and still so funny, freakazoid is literally a shitpost out of bruce timm's drawings


isn't it based? i've read only a few pages but it talks a load about marxism and dialectical materialism


dn worry guys

both of your shows are dogshit adult swim garbage


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It partly is. She only talks in reminicense of it for her uncle principally. She just mention communism in her childhood and later when making friends with somee bourg punks.
To me it looks like she got some Marx for begginers by Rius
And now socialists are just fine with the Ayatollahs, such is life


Although in a second read, seems like the uncle was just fine with the mullahs in charge…the problem is that they were purged.


No not really, it feels like every other generic "middle eastern life under turmoil" novel I've had to read in school in the past decade and its just boring to me. It has a lot of lib moments and even more in the movie.




>now socialists are just fine with the Ayatollahs
are they really? is islamic communist still allowed there or is it altogether banned

is the movie stop motion animation or actually animated cartoons


I remember it as being pretty shallow and self serving. She briefly talks about how she had family members that were politically involved and whose stories would actually be interesting, only to spend both books talking about her really mundane, privileged life and how dissatisfied she was with it.

She also throws an innocent man to the wolves when she wears makeup out on the street one day and has a big laugh about it. I guess she feels bad afterward but only because her mother (or grandmother? I forget) calls her out on being such a piece of shit.

Imo it was kind of emblematic of the whole book, just this narcissistic, self serving endeavor. Time and effort that would have been better spent on people with actually interesting lives or things to say.


How about this? Both are shit but Smiling Friends is slightly more funny due to the absurd humor.


I was referring to international socialists. And no, it seems that it is still banned.
In the open, politics still gravitate from conservative to/and reformists.


they both have the same kind of absurd humor



Why is western animation so low effort if it's not a box office release and even then it's CGI?


because it's mostly produced for kids and the adult ones are produced for teenagers and stoners.
South Park is unironically one of the most consistently well animated western toons and that is a sad thing.


If you mean for like TV stuff, it's because Western TV channels require personal connections and don't operate on a more skill-based level like say Japanese studios. Cinematic releases tend to be high quality with studios like Disney and Pixar which do care about skill and talent and are less favoritist.


>Recess 2 when?
Isn't that just Community?


>if it's not a box office release
There's high effort western animated movies, but they're practically unheard of to most people, because they aren't made to sell. Those have to compete with bigger and better known studios like Disney and Illumination, who completely dominate the animated film market.
>and even then it's CGI
Because it's cheaper and less time consuming, maximizing profits.


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What are your thoughts on Studio Mirs style. For reference, they animated Korra, Voltron, and the latest Superman cartoon. In a way, I like it, in the sense I prefer in a way a more proportional, human style. I think the problem with current animation is that a lot of it is very round and circle. I know that its slowly changing, but I still think of this era as lets say Steven Universe level roundness to it. However, what I am afraid of, which Studio Mir plays into, is the animafication of western cartoons. Not in the sense of, "GET THAT ANIME OUT OF MY BASED WESTERN CULTURE" but more of the sense that it feels very artificial. Its like trying to catch a fleeting moment. I feel like you can do anime/western mix but right now its as if they are trying to catch a trend rather than doing it for the love. Putting that aside, in a way, I would prefer if a Studio Mir style became the trend, hopefully making its way for more shows in a similar yet different style





Both the studio Mir style and the "CalArts" style have the same core problem: homogeneity. If you stick too closely to a formula (whatever it is) your visuals become indistinct from each other. One of the strengths of animation is flexibility since you can just draw characters differently. Both the styles you mention are at the extreme homogenous end of TWO different scales. Both in terms of the overall style and in terms of variation of design within a style. The extreme heterogeneous end of of overall style is Gumball, which goes so far as to do mixed media animation. The extreme end of heterogeneous design is One Piece, where characters come in literally all shapes and sizes but still fit a common style. There's plenty of space to explore on those 2 spectrums, but it's a lot easier to homogenize on both. It's easier to train people to do just one style, and if the elements you're animating all look the same it's easier to move animators to different tasks and move production along.


Go watch every Don Bluth film if you haven't already. Trippy, freaky, dark movies. The peak of animation before everything went digital and then 3D.



And the the Amblimation stuff.


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>The extreme end of heterogeneous design
>One Piece
lmao even

1. Alvida
2. Bonney
3. Shyarly
4. Monet
5. Robin
6. Hancock
7. Baby 5
8. Rebecca
9. Hina
10. Nami
11. Tashigi
12. Violet
13. Perona
14. Vivi
15. Shakky
16. Cindry
17. Kalifa
18. Makino
19. Nojiko
20. Cavendish
21. Ivankov
22. Marguerite
23. Keimi
24. Shirahoshi
25. Conis
26. Otohime
27. Kaya
28. Porche


I don't like animation that tries to abandon style for "naturalism"
Animation is intrinsically stylistic


1. heterogenous in design, not style (OP has a homogeneous style)
2. there's more to design than just the face
3. 28 characters out of hundreds

Post a better example


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>there's more to the design than just the face
half the characters are basically nami clones
>"b-but look what they're wearing! so unique!"


Did Oda have a stroke or something, because I swear the female characters looked more diverse in the beginning of the manga.


>east vs west bullshit


This website literally has an entire board dedicated specifically to the Japanese animation industry, go complain there


reread my post


Since we're on the topic of strange 2D animation not by Disney, there's also We're Back - a Dinosaur's Story.

As a long time One Piece reader, post Time-skip One Piece women, are almost 90% Nami clones, with different outfits and hair. Male characters are much more variable in OP though.


To be fair Pre-TS Nico Robin and Nami looked much different to on another or Hancock or several other women. Only Vivi and Nojiko looked significantly like Nami. Post-TS they all started melding together in looks.


He married a Nami cosplayer, probably had something to do with it.


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Not a stoke but he's worked himself into sickness more than once.

Probably lol


>Since we're on the topic of strange 2D animation not by Disney, there's also We're Back - a Dinosaur's Story.
Posted it:


Goddamn can't we have one thread for Western animation? There's a whole board for anime.


I like Bakshi's style alot. I've only seen Wizards and Cool World so far. I want to get around to the rest of them.


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I love the design of Necron 99. One of my favorite character designs.


Bro relax it isn't the primary thread discussion, just an aside conversation that already ended and it was more about an art-style in general than anime in particular. Threads will and do have conversations outside the OP reason, Rule 26 of the internet bub.

I love the aesthetics of those small 2D animations in general like Rankin & Bass or Don Bluth, where they didn't shy away from giving characters individuals looks or worn, lived in appearances.


I don't know why but when I was a kid, they would constantly play Secret of Nimh for recess on rainy days. And it would never pass a certain portion of the film, mainly because they would always play it from the start, so you have a set amount of time, you would only see that portion. But I thought it was a very captivating film, and that the aesthetic is just great. I wish more films were like it, but its very expensive, and there really isn't any independent studios anymore. Just the occasional film here and there.


Don Bluth was among those taught by the original Old Men 9 of Disney, so his methods, style and risk taking comes from that old-school system, where animation was treated as an art-style that had very exclusive numbers of 'apprentice' similar to how the old masters of classical painting and art had small numbers of apprentices and the secrets of the arts were a way of life, and not just a technique or job.


not really, anime is just romanized japanese word of animation, but weebs fetishize japan.


The man said ANIMATION, Not Anime, and he's correct that it can be an artform, if it's done with care.


Its been so long since I watched it so idk how the movie as a whole holds up but I'm going to torrent The Triplets of Belleville cuz I know the animation was really good


It's esoteric, but the film is fucking awesome. I suggest not getting the dubbed version, but the original, it's much more atmospheric.


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Since I could only recall the art style and dark themes, I was a bit let down by it being a comedy but still, wow, it was way better than I remembered. So many little details to pick out, think I'll be rewatching this one periodically, at least the first 2/3rds or so. Agreed about not getting a dubbed version, I mean theres almost no dialogue anyway
I wonder if the creators other films are worth watching? I'd only even heard of Les Triplettes de Belleville


meant to spoiler instead of redtexting but whatever lol its a 20 year old movie


The Illusionist is pretty damn good, though I still think Triplets is his best work.
I honestly love the Triplets of Belleville, it's something I remember seeing as a kid and enjoying every moment of it.

Lol, easy mistake and yeah it's pretty old (fuck and I am getting there too).


I had fun hate watching Anastasia recently.
The whole film is bullshit western propaganda about the Romanovs but it’s animated well.


This. Rasputin is so bombastic and the story is actually pretty good, if it wasn't based in real events.

Also it spawned a bunch of ripoffs like vid rel.


>I remember seeing as a kid and enjoying every moment of it
7 y/o and current me found it mildly disturbing yet every time this thread bumped I'd wrack my brain trying to remember the name of it. It certainly left an impression anyway, glad I rewatched it. Will check out the Illusionist soon


I fucking loved the scenes of America being so overweight. The fact that none of the characters were same faced other than specific, intentional characters


That Communist Rasputin is already pretty wild, but him telling his talking dog with the papakha to “shaddup” is the cherry on top.


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Ya I got a kick out of morbidly obese NA as well. Almost started seeing a pattern there where all the poor and working class folks were relatively normal looking (even the gangsters) whereas everyone else, who were either ambling around like tourist or consuming something, was morbidly obese. It kinda echoed skinny Champion giving all his surplus food to Fat Bruno. That said, Im probably overthinking it


Maybe this is too modern/anime inspired but this movie is kind of like a love letter to GTA San Andreas, with weird fantasy/sci fi mixed in. I watched it in the original French. Enjoyable if you like action scenes.


nonsensical plot, the animation is fire tho



Because nothing new can ever be made
Only remakes and reboots forever
Always follow from idealist garbage like "story wheel" jungian, campbellian nonsense when you attempt "new" forms
Follow from ancient aristotelian formulas of creating tension and releasing in catharsis
Always follow film school procedure and established animation styles
Never experiment - never unlock a new way


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Heartbreaking: Creator of widely successful pilot for independent online animation series has gotten the "daily discourse" fandom. It is day two of their show existing.


What series?


The Amazing Digital Circus


this whole fandom culture is so weird and fucked up. Some people are just randomly joining fandoms without even consuming the piece of media the fandom is built around, kind of like those “communists” and “socialists” who don’t really do theory but are around purely because they like the vibes.


to be fair the cartoon gives such tumblr vibes (not derogatorily) that i dont think you couldve expected anything else


If it's not one thing, it's another. Constant Payne is a good example. Either it's bad fans, shitty creators or shitty corporations. It's a miracle any good shows get made


Do they know that if they have annoying fans they can just like, ignore them?


Annoying fans are one thing, but you can often get situations like with /sug/ where the fandom actively becomes a menace.


What's /sug/



They could also make fun of them like many authors do instead of pissing and shitting.


>what's /sug/
It's the SU fanbase name >>2529
Ok u got me lol


I actually didn't know, I was just pre-empting any funny business

What's so bad about it?


They harassed several people to suicide because they didn't draw a fat character fat enough
They harassed the creators when they said that they shouldn't harass people and dug out old underage R34 of Ed, Edd and Eddy that the creators drew years ago.
Also doxxing, bot-spamming sites etc. They were so bad that they got the furry treatment on 4chan, kicked off /co/ and /aco/ into /trash/ and banned on sight outisde of it.


That's the MLP treatment, furry stuff is still tolerated somewhat.


Until /trash/ was made furry was banned from everything but /b/ and the furry board was deleted after being up for a short time. /mlp/ at least has a board of its own and can be posted in other boards if relevant to a thread.


I've seen storytime posts get deleted because there was a pony ad somewhere lol.


Depends on the board most of them are pretty lax on ponies at this point, now that the brony craze died down.


>They harassed several people to suicide because they didn't draw a fat character fat enough

proofs? that sounds a bit too wild


Well I should amend that to attempted suicide. There's a few cases but the primary example was zamii


the unholy trinity


Yep. Same retards would go on to try and shill for crunchyroll and it's awful Little Witch Academia/RWBY ripoff.


I liked the part where the new Tumblr sexyman is just Bender again.
More series could do with a Bender.


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>A general for "western" animations/cartoons.


I'm nostalgic for hiding furry threads inside other threads. We once made a fake DC comics thread with catwhistles in the OP, capefags were cool with it and jannies never spotted the ruse.
Then there was the whole shadow drawthread every caturday, fun times.
>the furry board
April Furs Day? The one where everyone who posted on it got banned.


invincible season 2 is close !

also for anyone who havent watched them, waltz with bashir and persepolis are both very good and relevant to current events


> there was the whole shadow drawthread every caturday
Yeah I recall that
>We once made a fake DC comics thread with catwhistles in the OP
Kek really? You got an archive link?
>jannies never spotted the ruse
Yeah current /co/ jannies ban for no reason right now, literally impossible to go there unless it's a show currently being aired, it's why /rwbyg/ gets kicked to /trash/ along with every other cartoon show. They also banned a bunch of people for making a /cog/ board proposal which was made because
A) /v/ was getting a shitton of spinoff boards so why shouldn't /co/
B) If the mods only wanted currently running shows on /co/ then why not just make a /cog/ for non-current shows?

Regardless its with that sort of shit that all the older, better threads got killed.


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Anyone got sauce?


>Kek really? You got an archive link?
There isn't just one time it happened and I can't find the one I was in (too man to seatch), but here's an example: https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/65508331/


Thanks, and yeah I think I caught the tail end of those threads when I was in /co/ (I drifted in and out a lot back then).

Where'd you get the caps to begin with? Those look like tumblr posts.


>tail end


>Where'd you get the caps?
Was looking through the /pol/eague 6 archive videos, it's a /leftypol/ supported engaged in bantz with an /mlpol/ supporter.


Ahh, I see. The sauce for that is probably hard to find. /mlp/ might have it tho



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So I finally decided to give TADC a watch and it was pretty good, I hope it maintains its quality. The author seems to be into arthouse shit so I'm keeping my expectations somewhat high.


Has anyone seen The Amazing Digital Circus? I have no idea what the fuck it's about, but it's trending everywhere and I'm curious at this point since the main character's name is a Russian word.


literally one post above you…


Dark humor show created by a Newgrounds user and the studio that animated Murder Drones that got blessed/cursed by the algorithm so now it's incredibly fucking popular in only a couple of weeks.


>“communists” and “socialists” who don’t really do theory but are around purely because they like the vibes.
So twitter (and somewhat old tumblr) then, the time of leftypol anons to twitter users back in day wasn't good


I actually see the sentiment that you "don't need to actually engage with the piece of media you've built your personality around to be a fan" on social media fairly often.


no you
who said funny


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Uh… what?
>aged up
Nope, it was disturbingly on model for the underage original characters (I found the leaks, though I won't post them)
>That show will never be based like high guardian spice
Oh god not you again. Didn't the mods give you a ban for this shit a year ago?


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I didn't know they were referring to it in their post, I didn't see the post to begin with anon.

>creator of Murder Drones
Oh. I can't tell if that's a good thing or a bad thing TBH, since I never saw that show, though the concept summary sounds pretty interesting. Pomni is pretty cute too.


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>that posting style
>that retarded response
Yeah it's you. Please desist.
>"aged up AU" when they're not
LOL no. You can see the characters are drawn as they are in the show.


Wizards was well made, and Fritz the Cat is alright if a bit overly raunchy. C**nsk*n was just god-awful on a number of levels, and is poorly done edgelord shite.


Cool World was cool. Check it out if you havn't. Still want to watch Anerican Pop too.


i said studio. the creator of the show joined them just now


Puritanical hate mobs are the opposite of "based". Lil B would be ashamed.


I've seen Cool World, my favorite of Bakshi's work tbh. American Pop is honestly just depressing. It's well made, but something about it leaves me feelng drained.


>Puritanical hate mobs are the opposite of "based"
True, but who the fuck cares about what Lil B thinks? NTA BTW.


hes literally who coined the term


He mostly meant it in the traditional sense. Based, base head, crack head, he picked it because people used to make fun of him for looking like a crack head.


No, he didn't. Based is a derivative of West-Coast slang for crackheads (freebasers, baseheads etc.) that came about in the late 80s, early 90s when Lil B was a kid. He just took the name up.


no he coopted the term and made it about not caring what others thought of you

yeah i dont think anyone saying based in the last decade is using it that way


They should've gone all in with the cool CD-ROM effect and aspect ratio instead of ditching it 12 seconds in.


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Also I'm glad independent animation is getting attention but the content farms are going full throttle with this new cartoon. My recommendations are nothing but garbage clickbait about it.

They worked on fucking Hazbin Hotel, they shouldn't act surprised about this.

Every show should have a Bender.


>he coopted the term and made it about not caring what others thought of you
>i dont think anyone saying based in the last decade is using it that way
Yeah, since it's used today as a stamp of approval in the same sense as /ourguy/ and the opposite of the term "cringe", something that was used en masse primarily on 4chan in 2015 or so and spread to other social media.


>the cool CD-ROM effect and aspect ratio
Was probably too niche or possibly time consuming to use.
>content farms are going full throttle with this new cartoon
Probably because of all the Rule 34 and people taking the bait so easily.


>Probably because of all the Rule 34
what? you think niche porn has an effect on youtuber clickbait? huh? what?


<the amazing digital circus 2520 (October 30, 2023)
That's really high numbers for an indie show barely a year old, so it's probably getting exposure in content that gets a lot of views on twitter and stuff - erotic fanart.


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No, content farmers are more basic than that. Just reaction videos and manufactured controversy.


god imagine putting your face out there for every single shiny new thing just to make a couple of cents


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A whore is a whore, even a digital one. I'm referring to the ecelebs, not Pomni here

Saw the video in the middle, and yeah it's just riding the hype and inevitable toxic fandom culture that arises; obviously people on reddit and twitter are going to have the most retarded takes like "Pomni is a bad character for running away". I feel like this is a result of capitalist alienation and the need for escapism resulting in modern fandoms and fandom culture in general becoming toxic groups of assholes… I suppose being a fanboy/girl often comes with the word "FANatic" implied.

I personally liked the pilot, it's disturbingly mindwarping but not overly grotesque, it plays with the old school computer graphics/glitch effect that reminds me of old school early 3D animations and game glitches. The concept of abstraction is kinda interesting as well and the colorful cartoon design offsets the horror without feeling off. Pomni so far is exactly the character the audience is with the most, as like her, we are ignorant of what's going on. Supposedly this is based off of Sartre's No Exit play, however it reminds me more of Five Characters in Search of an Exit from the Twilight Zone, which was inspired by No Exit. It also reminded me somewhat of the original Pinnochio story, regarding the other puppets and Буратино variation, particularly Pomni's jester outfit and Russian name.

On a separate note I find the immense amounts of Rule 34 after the episode debut being less than 2 weeks ago, almost fascinating.


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The spam of this show made me want to ignore it but I didn't want to make the same mistake I made not playing Undertale for years because of the fans and I don't regret it, as a pretentious fag I really like it so far.


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I've seen that pic everywhere LOL.
Good for you anon, watching a movie or tv show and enjoying it doesn't necessitate being embroiled in the shittiness of the fandom and clickbait ecelebs trying to ride the popularity, enjoy it for what it is.


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I wanted to add that the rundown office scenery during the Exit loop is similar to the Stanley Parable which goose admitted to being an inspiration.


>literally just googled 'fluttershy more butt'
That actually worked for once lol.


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I'm really liking the demonic clown porky from the new Helluva Boss episode.


I thought it was kind of basic, nothing worth that much attention, but Pomni is cute and I'll probably watch the next episode


it made me laugh, thats more than most shows these days.

also one of the voice actors ALLEGEDLY harassed someone i used to associate with and their boyfriend but i didn't realize it was them until the crdits rolled :^)


>I thought it was kind of basic
what makes you say that


The jokes and the plot were very predictable and the visuals were 'ok' but nothing special. My overwhelming feeling was 'meh'.


the visuals were one of the best parts


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Damn bitch.


I didn't really like the character designs and the visual fidelity from what I remember was impressive I suppose from an indie perspective but Gooseworx has millions of subs, they're not exactly underground, and it will probably take years for episodes to come out, I don't really see anything special enough to spend a bunch of time discussing/anticipating/etc.

My reading was that they were people who got stuck in some kind of VR hell and the reason why time isn't an issue is that maybe the simulation is running 10000x than real life. But the anon who said it's like SOMA might well be correct and that's a more parsimonious theory I suppose.


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> one of the voice actors ALLEGEDLY harassed someone i used to associate with and their boyfriend
Which VA?

>I didn't really like the character designs
I thought they were vibrant and colorful.
>Gooseworx has millions of subs
Meaningless in this day and age any talentless hack ECeleb can have millions of subs, doesn't mean they're not indie.
>it will probably take years for episodes to come out
Gooseworx is working with Glitch and runs Hunipop discussion, having friends with the Hazbin Hotel group, Lackadaisy group and now the group that produces Murder Drones. Episodes will probably be coming out every few months or so considering the pooling of resources here. Also the sheer popularity it exploded into in such a brief time is getting more and more people into it and the attention brings funding. Also there's rumors of a Digital Circus game being developed alongside the series, which is an additional attractant.
>Don't really see anything special enough to spend a bunch of time discussing/anticipating
You don't, others do.


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Unlikely but an interesting idea for the story much later on
>Pomni takes control of the circus from Caine
>Ends up going crazy, but not to the point of abstracting
>Instead she lives in her own little world like Kinger
>She's forgotten she even had a life outside of the Circus and now only remembers being the funny jester that manages the AMAZING DIGITAL CIRCUS!!!!!!
>Any sense of fear or hesitation in her is gone as she puts on a big smile and gives the people inside of the game adventures every single day
>Sharp teeth are also in effect 24/7 now, her blue colors have been replaced with the color black, and now she's always got 15 different clown jokes on hand like cream pies she can pull out of nowhere and one of those flowers that sprays people with water
>The rest of the people in the game leave, but she's the only one who thinks she's truly free inside of it and stays


Soma is a video game.


>Which VA?
Kingers, which feels weird, cause i actually really like this character.


also holy shit, if the plot is anything like SOMA i will really like this show, SOMA gave me recurring nightmares for years and i still think about it all the time, such an interesting concept. i really hope the story goes down a similar path or something just as good.


Oh, I didn't see anyone mention it in this thread so I was confused as to what was being referred to.

>Sean Chiplock
Him? The voice acting is good, but I honestly know nothing about the guy.


i don't really know anything about him either, other than what aforementioned former associate had told me, could be just drama nonsense.



Show from the late 90s about nerds misunderstanding the basics of life and has the hot chick love interest thing going. I'm shocked it didn't get at least one more season because it did such a great job at world building. As absurd as it is, it manages to be very human in everything it does. It is no surprise that real people were interviewed to get ideas for plots and characters. Also created by the people who later made Megas XLR, lol.


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*Note: The meme doesn't actually reflect my view. Well kind of, but I don't actually give a shit about calarts. Its a stupid point brought up by people with a clear bias.*
I have seen recently that more and more cartoons have been trying to go the anime route. In a way, I welcomed this, since I wanted more realistic proportions and more serious story telling. But the more I look at it, the more it seems it is all a cash grab. A way of cashing in on the trend of anime. So now they will make all their shows anime. I dislike this. Even if their is styles like lets say Justice League or Teen Titans, Batman Beyond, there is a certain distinct feel to it. But now, they simply want to emulate it. Hell, Scott Pilgrim, the premiere comic that would work wonders with a cartoony style is instead being marketed as an anime. Why? To pander, to try and get that market share. Its cynical. And it doesn't help that more cartoony, rubber hose inspired cartoons are being canned. WB have been especially bad. I'm no John K, with that RETVRN mindset when it comes to animation. But I dislike this trend, especially when it tries to capture the anime essence without truly getting it.


I agree, they saw that anime and manga absolutely destroyed them at sales numbers and are now desperately and cynically trying to win people back.


It's always been funny to me how off-model Gumball got looped in with the 'calarts' meme. The only real argument is if you compare to the pilot design or something. The show esp. S1 is outstanding in its era for being absolute eye-candy and not made in North America.


Streaming services have just turned "anime" into a brand meaning "animation for adults". It's dumb but I care more about the quality of the end products than anything else.

Yeah the entire meme is bullshit and isn't how the characters actually look. The fact that it caught on tells you about the quality of 4chan/4chan-adjacent discourse.


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>the entire meme is bullshit
Toonboom isn't bullshit, that got debunked in these threads yeas ago. The images are only vaguely different to the actual models and Gumball is the only one that doesn't fit the meme if only because the rest of the show is so distinct. Beanface is very much an aspect of those 'cartoons' and the general style is very similar to one another, with (again) Gumball being the exception. The reason people started calling Toonboom style "calarts" is because it was "pioneered" in California Arts school, and became associated with it because the school has stopped educating animators properly and just focuses on cheap mass-produced product similar to many of the cheap shitty SoL anime that gets produced en masse in Japan, where they abuse keyframing to save money and time in animation rather than properly animating scenes.

TL;DR: Animation in corporations is shit either way, late stage capitalism is eating itself and mainstream art.


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Gumball was so good.


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that was me. also g5 shitposting is where it's at now


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/co/ has had endless threads about this pilot for weeks, so I decided to give it a watch. I don't really get it. maybe's it's baby's first existentialism for a lot of people?
>More series could do with a Bender.
I hear he's great


its fun


decided to rewatch it. I guess it's OK


>. Hell, Scott Pilgrim, the premiere comic that would work wonders with a cartoony style is instead being marketed as an anime.
Scott Pilgrim was always very western animeish. Like tumblr art style in general.


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And American animation was good mostly because it's not some hyper realistic cookie cutter shit. American animation was more about utilizing the distinctiveness of the art form with squash and stretch and visual gags and etc. I'd like to see Japan make some more stuff like Shin Chan and etc.

Yeah some realistic 99s animation would be cool, but what the entire world market is missing is cartoons that really have the spirit of animation.


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I wonder if anyone has ever written about it, but I'd call it the Hana Barberaization of animation. Everything is this real low effort cookie cutter shit nowadays. All shots are from the same angle, same framing, no dynamism


Hanna Barbera pioneered "limited animation" to produce animation cheaper. Instead of re-drawing the whole character you separated them into layers and re-drew only the parts that moved. That's why all their characters have collars. It makes it easier to separate the head from the body and animate them separately.


Yeah, but you can tell there has been a deliberate attempt to animefy it. Like they obviously kept a cartoony style, ala panty and stocking. But compared to an animated short that came out right before the movie, it shows the vast difference in style they were going for. Whereas this one, while having some anime tropes, still maintains a western comic feel, while this new one is like you said embraces Western Tumblr Anime Style.


It only appeals to people under 13 and people over 30. You wouldn't get it otherwise.


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Thoughts on what can be called the "Western Action Show Style" trend


Also I have only really seen a few screenshots and poster. But this is something I am looking forward to, and hopefully gets noticed so more films like it are made


Isn't this just an attempt at copying Timm?


Yes and No. I would say Timm is more exaggerated, whereas this new style is more proportional. (Obviously there will be exaggeration in some instances, like Allen the Alien) But for the most part, humans have about as realistic torso, leg and head as you can imagine. I would say Teen Titans are closer to Timm than this style is to Timm.


>muh commies
>muh degenerate
>attack helicopter joke
Jfc what an awful meme


Needs more tits and ass


I like it


I will say this is one of the downsides of this style. Which is not necessarily bad, if you're show doesn't call for fanservice, why bother with it. But it is something that generally not done within the style, and can be bad later on. If you're adapting something and a character is referred to as sexy, could be a case that the style doesn't convey that compared to other media. My guess since its reserved for more serious shows, fanservice is a no go. Hopefully, that changes as the style is more refined


kinda weird that the mere presence of an attractive character is considered "fanservice" now, when i think of the term massive jiggling tits come to mind


>watching cartoons
I hope all of you are still in school. Otherwise, yikes! And then I bet you wonder why none of you have gfs. I don't think women want to spend their days watching cartoons lol


I was being flippant but I didn't mean just having eye candy. All this cape shit is so asexual and sterile. There's no sensuality or eroticism. The only desire expressed is to dominate and murder people and it's just kind of gross.


Fanservice is like pantieshot and bath scene


Please go back bein jock bully in some 90s school movie that you came from.


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Even that is toned down.


I think this is due to budget. In fact the first season was even more unnecessarily brutal than the comic actually is, turning Omniman into someone who simply didn't care about collateral damage to a psycho who went out of his way to kill as many people as possible.


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1- Is this actually from an episode?
2 - what is he cringing so hard at? the lack of sound makes it confusing


throw it back = twerking


Anti-Fash kino coming through


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uh oh! it's Edge-O-Clock!



That is such an ass character design.


Ok, to be fair, you are an idiot. These take place in two different periods of the story. First one is much later, when Thragg makes the alien his sex slaves to produce millions of his children for an army. And the second is after Nolan leaves Earth, and becomes their leader. This pic is more comparable to the second pic. I saw people were complaining about that and listen, again if you think modern cartoons have zero sex appeal, I can agree. But if you're going to do it, be factual about it.


i thought you guys were complaining about the adaptation looking low budget at first…


Violence is sexual. Expand your horizons.

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