No.22171[Last 50 Posts]
A general for "western" animations/cartoons.
Gonna start off with a recommendation to watch The King and the Mockingbird the 1980 version especially, absolutely comrade-pilled movie.
Good torrent sites (massive pop-up warning, put on an adblocker):
https://kimcartoon.li/CartoonListhttps://rarbg.to/torrents.php?category=movieshttps://rarbg.to/torrents.php?category=2;18;41;49 No.22173
I'm gonna start off with a recommendation you read the catalog.
>>15233 No.22264
>Король и птица
Man I have that on disc, it´s a pretty trippy film.
No.22900
>>22264it's a masterpiece
No.22905
>>22904im not watching that shit. post actual cartoons
No.22906
>>22904I know artists tend to be retarded in general but they really can't articulate any criticism against NFTs other than "muh environment". I'd rather read actual left economists with actual arguments against them like Varoufakis.
No.22907
>>22906>they really can't articulate any criticism against NFTs other than "muh environment"Did you watch the video? It has nothing to do with environment. And that's ignoring the fact that it's not just "lol muh enviro" see
>>>/edu/8686 No.22910
>>22171Why should I use that weird site instead of pirate bay?
>Король и птицаI'm not seeing that one anywhere? Please post english title as well.
No.22911
>>22910the king and the mockingbird
No.22912
>>22904tl;dr his conclusion is
>I want to believe NFTs could work and help artists but right now it's to "corrupted" and is a scam.Reminder that if you think NFTs are a good idea you are a rube. This video goes into way more depth explaining just how bullshit they are (over 2 hours) if you somehow need to have it explained to you in simple terms.
No.22916
>>22912>>22912>right now it's to "corrupted" and is a scamand it will stay that way under capitalism
No.22917
>>22916NFTs are a scam regardless. They wouldn't make sense under communism. The whole point is to take something that is not scarce and make it scarce so that you can speculate on it and so supply is a factor in price. It's fundamentally reactionary.
No.22918
>>22904>>22912I hate "artists" with a passion. They might be some of the biggest defenders of capitalism.
No.22932
>>22928Disenchantment wasn't working out?
No.22933
>>22928They couldn't get DiMaggio back for this though. Why even try.
No.22935
>>22928Goddamnit can't anything nice just stay dead? It was getting pretty unfunny in the last few Comedy Central seasons, I can only imagine how much worse it could get.
No.23004
A really good cartoon from the 90s/early 2000s are the various series by Adelaide Pictures, particularly, Men in Black, Godzilla: The Series and Extreme Ghostbusters (vid related).
The Extreme Ghostbusters (for example) is a cool show, but more importantly does something that modern "diversity" cartoons fail at. The characters are diverse but don't make it a forced point: A latino, a handicapped guy, a black guy, and a goth girl. It was entertaining, had creepy monsters, and didn't feel politically forced. To top it off, it's not a remake, they're the successors to the original Ghostbusters. They also do address ideas like racism but engagingly. For example (spoiler), an episode where a Jewish boy brings a golem to life to keep a bunch of racist thugs (which so happen to be Garrett's old friends) from desecrating his father's synagogue. Moreover instead of making Garrett look like a Anti-PC jerk when Roland brought their racism up, it portrayed Garrett as being unaware of his childhood friends being "Neo-Nazis" and when he discovered that Roland was right and after saving the day he let the authorities rightfully arrest them saying that they were no longer his friends because of the hate crimes they committed and that his real friends were Roland and the rest of the Ghostbusters.
So yeah, really recommend this
No.23011
>>23005and still gets paid less than Katy Sagal, since she did live action in one semi-popular tv show in the 90s
No.24220
have this vague memory of a babar episode where he’s in this modern industrial city but it’s in ruins
can’t find it
No.24223
>>24220This sounds vaguely familiar and I think it had been a Planet of the Apes reference.
No.24237
Anyone know if the Bucky o'Hare site is dead? It doesn't give an error just never loads
https://archive.ph/V1SIH No.25139
People dunk on Rick and Morty, but it's still a thousand times better than whatever the fuck Smiling Friends is
No.25140
>>25139it's a pretty average adult swim show, but the average adult swim show is bad. most people i talk to like it because that guy from oneyplays made it. he comes across as an asshole so i never got into the hype
No.25145
>>22904Will watch later, but…
>Calarts reactsona>Daring to call any artstyle shitGlass houses much? I would honestly have to give a long and proper think before deciding if calarts is any better than the mass produced randomgen diarhea that is the ape artstyle.
No.25798
>>25139what sort of chemicals did you have to ingest to get so wrong
No.25848
>>25842I loathe Persepolis because its just boring and very eyeroll worthy but April and the Extraordinary World is certainly interesting.
No.25853
Recess 2 when?
anybody ever watch the freakazoid making of special? it's wild how ill prepared they were making the show
and still so funny, freakazoid is literally a shitpost out of bruce timm's drawings
No.25854
>>25848>Persepolisisn't it based? i've read only a few pages but it talks a load about marxism and dialectical materialism
No.25855
>>25139>>25181dn worry guys
both of your shows are dogshit adult swim garbage
No.25865
Although in a second read, seems like the uncle was just fine with the mullahs in charge…the problem is that they were purged.
No.25870
>>25854No not really, it feels like every other generic "middle eastern life under turmoil" novel I've had to read in school in the past decade and its just boring to me. It has a lot of lib moments and even more in the movie.
No.25881
>>25864>now socialists are just fine with the Ayatollahsare they really? is islamic communist still allowed there or is it altogether banned
>>25870is the movie stop motion animation or actually animated cartoons
No.25920
>>25870I remember it as being pretty shallow and self serving. She briefly talks about how she had family members that were politically involved and whose stories would actually be interesting, only to spend both books talking about her really mundane, privileged life and how dissatisfied she was with it.
She also throws an innocent man to the wolves when she wears makeup out on the street one day and has a big laugh about it. I guess she feels bad afterward but only because her mother (or grandmother? I forget) calls her out on being such a piece of shit.
Imo it was kind of emblematic of the whole book, just this narcissistic, self serving endeavor. Time and effort that would have been better spent on people with actually interesting lives or things to say.
No.25928
>>25139How about this? Both are shit but Smiling Friends is slightly more funny due to the absurd humor.
No.25933
>>25881I was referring to international socialists. And no, it seems that it is still banned.
In the open, politics still gravitate from conservative to/and reformists.
No.25934
>>25928they both have the same kind of absurd humor
No.25947
Why is western animation so low effort if it's not a box office release and even then it's CGI?
No.25949
>>25947because it's mostly produced for kids and the adult ones are produced for teenagers and stoners.
South Park is unironically one of the most consistently well animated western toons and that is a sad thing.
No.25952
>>25947If you mean for like TV stuff, it's because Western TV channels require personal connections and don't operate on a more skill-based level like say Japanese studios. Cinematic releases tend to be high quality with studios like Disney and Pixar which do care about skill and talent and are less favoritist.
No.31997
>>25853>Recess 2 when?Isn't that just Community?
No.31998
>>25947>if it's not a box office releaseThere's high effort western animated movies, but they're practically unheard of to most people, because they aren't made to sell. Those have to compete with bigger and better known studios like Disney and Illumination, who completely dominate the animated film market.
>and even then it's CGIBecause it's cheaper and less time consuming, maximizing profits.
No.35177
What are your thoughts on Studio Mirs style. For reference, they animated Korra, Voltron, and the latest Superman cartoon. In a way, I like it, in the sense I prefer in a way a more proportional, human style. I think the problem with current animation is that a lot of it is very round and circle. I know that its slowly changing, but I still think of this era as lets say Steven Universe level roundness to it. However, what I am afraid of, which Studio Mir plays into, is the animafication of western cartoons. Not in the sense of, "GET THAT ANIME OUT OF MY BASED WESTERN CULTURE" but more of the sense that it feels very artificial. Its like trying to catch a fleeting moment. I feel like you can do anime/western mix but right now its as if they are trying to catch a trend rather than doing it for the love. Putting that aside, in a way, I would prefer if a Studio Mir style became the trend, hopefully making its way for more shows in a similar yet different style
No.35317
>>35177Both the studio Mir style and the "CalArts" style have the same core problem: homogeneity. If you stick too closely to a formula (whatever it is) your visuals become indistinct from each other. One of the strengths of animation is flexibility since you can just draw characters differently. Both the styles you mention are at the extreme homogenous end of TWO different scales. Both in terms of the overall style and in terms of variation of design within a style. The extreme heterogeneous end of of overall style is Gumball, which goes so far as to do mixed media animation. The extreme end of heterogeneous design is One Piece, where characters come in literally all shapes and sizes but still fit a common style. There's plenty of space to explore on those 2 spectrums, but it's a lot easier to homogenize on both. It's easier to train people to do just one style, and if the elements you're animating all look the same it's easier to move animators to different tasks and move production along.
No.35324
>>35317>The extreme end of heterogeneous design>One Piecelol
lmao even
1. Alvida2. Bonney3. Shyarly4. Monet5. Robin6. Hancock7. Baby 58. Rebecca9. Hina10. Nami11. Tashigi12. Violet13. Perona14. Vivi15. Shakky16. Cindry17. Kalifa18. Makino19. Nojiko20. Cavendish21. Ivankov22. Marguerite23. Keimi24. Shirahoshi25. Conis26. Otohime27. Kaya28. Porche No.35325
I don't like animation that tries to abandon style for "naturalism"
Animation is intrinsically stylistic
No.35326
>>353241. heterogenous in design, not style (OP has a homogeneous style)
2. there's more to design than just the face
3. 28 characters out of hundreds
Post a better example
No.35330
>>35328Did Oda have a stroke or something, because I swear the female characters looked more diverse in the beginning of the manga.
No.35331
>east vs west bullshit
yawn
No.35333
>>35331This website literally has an entire board dedicated specifically to the Japanese animation industry, go complain there
No.35338
>>35318Since we're on the topic of strange 2D animation not by Disney, there's also We're Back - a Dinosaur's Story.
>>35324As a long time One Piece reader, post Time-skip One Piece women, are almost 90% Nami clones, with different outfits and hair. Male characters are much more variable in OP though.
No.35339
>>35328To be fair Pre-TS Nico Robin and Nami looked much different to on another or Hancock or several other women. Only Vivi and Nojiko looked significantly like Nami. Post-TS they all started melding together in looks.
No.35340
>>35330He married a Nami cosplayer, probably had something to do with it.
No.35342
>>35330Not a stoke but he's worked himself into sickness more than once.
>>35340 Probably lol
No.35343
>>35338>Since we're on the topic of strange 2D animation not by Disney, there's also We're Back - a Dinosaur's Story. Posted it:
>>35321 No.35344
>>35342>>35328>>35324Goddamn can't we have one thread for Western animation? There's a whole board for anime.
No.35358
>>35344Bro relax it isn't the primary thread discussion, just an aside conversation that already ended and it was more about an art-style in general than anime in particular. Threads will and do have conversations outside the OP reason, Rule 26 of the internet bub.
>>35345 >>35346 I love the aesthetics of those small 2D animations in general like Rankin & Bass or Don Bluth, where they didn't shy away from giving characters individuals looks or worn, lived in appearances.
No.35799
>>35674Don Bluth was among those taught by the original Old Men 9 of Disney, so his methods, style and risk taking comes from that old-school system, where animation was treated as an art-style that had very exclusive numbers of 'apprentice' similar to how the old masters of classical painting and art had small numbers of apprentices and the secrets of the arts were a way of life, and not just a technique or job.
No.35802
>>22901not really, anime is just romanized japanese word of animation, but weebs fetishize japan.
No.35840
>>35802The man said ANIMATION, Not Anime, and he's correct that it can be an artform, if it's done with care.
No.35843
Its been so long since I watched it so idk how the movie as a whole holds up but I'm going to torrent The Triplets of Belleville cuz I know the animation was really good
No.35850
>>35843It's esoteric, but the film is fucking awesome. I suggest not getting the dubbed version, but the original, it's much more atmospheric.
No.35852
>>35850Since I could only recall the art style and dark themes, I was a bit let down by it being a comedy but still, wow, it was way better than I remembered. So many little details to pick out, think I'll be rewatching this one periodically, at least the first 2/3rds or so. Agreed about not getting a dubbed version,
I mean theres almost no dialogue anywayI wonder if the creators other films are worth watching? I'd only even heard of Les Triplettes de Belleville
No.35853
meant to spoiler instead of redtexting but whatever lol its a 20 year old movie
No.35856
>>35852The Illusionist is pretty damn good, though I still think Triplets is his best work.
I honestly love the Triplets of Belleville, it's something I remember seeing as a kid and enjoying every moment of it.
>>35853 Lol, easy mistake and yeah it's pretty old (fuck and I am getting there too).
No.35859
>>35318I had fun hate watching Anastasia recently.
The whole film is bullshit western propaganda about the Romanovs but it’s animated well.
No.35865
>>35859This. Rasputin is so bombastic and the story is actually pretty good, if it wasn't based in real events.
Also it spawned a bunch of ripoffs like vid rel.
No.35869
>>35868I fucking loved the scenes of America being so overweight. The fact that none of the characters were same faced other than specific, intentional characters
No.35885
>>35865That Communist Rasputin is already pretty wild, but him telling his talking dog with the papakha to “shaddup” is the cherry on top.
No.35893
>>35892nonsensical plot, the animation is fire tho
No.36025
>>22933Because nothing new can ever be made
Only remakes and reboots forever
Always follow from idealist garbage like "story wheel" jungian, campbellian nonsense when you attempt "new" forms
Follow from ancient aristotelian formulas of creating tension and releasing in catharsis
Always follow film school procedure and established animation styles
Never experiment - never unlock a new way
No.37041
>>37040The Amazing Digital Circus
No.37047
>>37039this whole fandom culture is so weird and fucked up. Some people are just randomly joining fandoms without even consuming the piece of media the fandom is built around, kind of like those “communists” and “socialists” who don’t really do theory but are around purely because they like the vibes.
No.37048
>>37039to be fair the cartoon gives such tumblr vibes (not derogatorily) that i dont think you couldve expected anything else
No.37058
>>37039Do they know that if they have annoying fans they can just like, ignore them?
No.37059
>>37058Annoying fans are one thing, but you can often get situations like with /sug/ where the fandom actively becomes a menace.
No.37060
>>37059What's /sug/
SUGMA BALLS LMAO No.37062
>>37058They could also make fun of them like many authors do instead of pissing and shitting.
No.37064
>>37060>what's /sug/ It's the SU fanbase name
>>2529>spoilerOk u got me lol
No.37066
>>37064I actually didn't know, I was just pre-empting any funny business
What's so bad about it?
No.37067
>>37066They harassed several people to suicide because they didn't draw a fat character fat enough
They harassed the creators when they said that they shouldn't harass people and dug out old underage R34 of Ed, Edd and Eddy that the creators drew years ago.
Also doxxing, bot-spamming sites etc. They were so bad that they got the furry treatment on 4chan, kicked off /co/ and /aco/ into /trash/ and banned on sight outisde of it.
No.37071
>>37067That's the MLP treatment, furry stuff is still tolerated somewhat.
No.37073
>>37071Until /trash/ was made furry was banned from everything but /b/ and the furry board was deleted after being up for a short time. /mlp/ at least has a board of its own and can be posted in other boards if relevant to a thread.
No.37074
>>37073I've seen storytime posts get deleted because there was a pony ad somewhere lol.
No.37076
>>37074Depends on the board most of them are pretty lax on ponies at this point, now that the brony craze died down.
No.37079
>>37067>They harassed several people to suicide because they didn't draw a fat character fat enoughproofs? that sounds a bit too wild
No.37080
>>37079Well I should amend that to attempted suicide. There's a few cases but the primary example was zamii
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/zamii070-harassment-controversy No.37081
>>37080>su>mlp>homosuckthe unholy trinity
No.37082
>>37081Yep. Same retards would go on to try and shill for crunchyroll and it's awful Little Witch Academia/RWBY ripoff.
No.37093
>>37048I liked the part where the new Tumblr sexyman is just Bender again.
More series could do with a Bender.
No.37148
>>37073I'm nostalgic for hiding furry threads inside other threads. We once made a fake DC comics thread with catwhistles in the OP, capefags were cool with it and jannies never spotted the ruse.
Then there was the whole shadow drawthread every caturday, fun times.
>the furry boardApril Furs Day? The one where everyone who posted on it got banned.
No.37150
invincible season 2 is close !
also for anyone who havent watched them, waltz with bashir and persepolis are both very good and relevant to current events
No.37177
>>37148> there was the whole shadow drawthread every caturdayYeah I recall that
>We once made a fake DC comics thread with catwhistles in the OPKek really? You got an archive link?
>jannies never spotted the ruse Yeah current /co/ jannies ban for no reason right now, literally impossible to go there unless it's a show currently being aired, it's why /rwbyg/ gets kicked to /trash/ along with every other cartoon show. They also banned a bunch of people for making a /cog/ board proposal which was made because
A) /v/ was getting a shitton of spinoff boards so why shouldn't /co/
B) If the mods only wanted currently running shows on /co/ then why not just make a /cog/ for non-current shows?
Regardless its with that sort of shit that all the older, better threads got killed.
No.37185
>>37177>Kek really? You got an archive link? There isn't just one time it happened and I can't find the one I was in (too man to seatch), but here's an example:
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/65508331/ No.37187
>>37185Thanks, and yeah I think I caught the tail end of those threads when I was in /co/ (I drifted in and out a lot back then).
>>37184 Where'd you get the caps to begin with? Those look like tumblr posts.
No.37197
>>37187>Where'd you get the caps?Was looking through the /pol/eague 6 archive videos, it's a /leftypol/ supported engaged in bantz with an /mlpol/ supporter.
No.37201
>>37197Ahh, I see. The sauce for that is probably hard to find. /mlp/ might have it tho
No.37212
Has anyone seen The Amazing Digital Circus? I have no idea what the fuck it's about, but it's trending everywhere and I'm curious at this point since the main character's name is a Russian word.
No.37213
>>37212literally one post above you…
No.37215
>>37212Dark humor show created by a Newgrounds user and the studio that animated Murder Drones that got blessed/cursed by the algorithm so now it's incredibly fucking popular in only a couple of weeks.
No.37216
>>37047>“communists” and “socialists” who don’t really do theory but are around purely because they like the vibes.So twitter (and somewhat old tumblr) then, the time of leftypol anons to twitter users back in day wasn't good
No.37217
>>37047I actually see the sentiment that you "don't need to actually engage with the piece of media you've built your personality around to be a fan" on social media fairly often.
No.37222
>>37082>contrarianismno you
who said funny
No.37225
>>37213I didn't know they were referring to it in their post, I didn't see the post to begin with anon.
>>37215 >creator of Murder DronesOh. I can't tell if that's a good thing or a bad thing TBH, since I never saw that show, though the concept summary sounds pretty interesting. Pomni is pretty cute too.
No.37229
>>35345Wizards was well made, and Fritz the Cat is alright if a bit overly raunchy. C**nsk*n was just god-awful on a number of levels, and is poorly done edgelord shite.
No.37231
>>37229Cool World was cool. Check it out if you havn't. Still want to watch Anerican Pop too.
No.37232
>>37225i said studio. the creator of the show joined them just now
No.37234
>>37219
Puritanical hate mobs are the opposite of "based". Lil B would be ashamed.
No.37236
>>37234>Puritanical hate mobs are the opposite of "based"True, but who the fuck cares about what Lil B thinks? NTA BTW.
No.37237
>>37236hes literally who coined the term
No.37238
>>37237He mostly meant it in the traditional sense. Based, base head, crack head, he picked it because people used to make fun of him for looking like a crack head.
No.37239
>>37237No, he didn't. Based is a derivative of West-Coast slang for crackheads (freebasers, baseheads etc.) that came about in the late 80s, early 90s when Lil B was a kid. He just took the name up.
No.37240
>>37238no he coopted the term and made it about not caring what others thought of you
>>37239yeah i dont think anyone saying based in the last decade is using it that way
No.37241
>>37212They should've gone all in with the cool CD-ROM effect and aspect ratio instead of ditching it 12 seconds in.
No.37242
Also I'm glad independent animation is getting attention but the content farms are going full throttle with this new cartoon. My recommendations are nothing but garbage clickbait about it.
>>37039>>37048They worked on fucking Hazbin Hotel, they shouldn't act surprised about this.
>>37093Every show should have a Bender.
No.37243
>>37240>he coopted the term and made it about not caring what others thought of youLMAO
>i dont think anyone saying based in the last decade is using it that way Yeah, since it's used today as a stamp of approval in the same sense as /ourguy/ and the opposite of the term "cringe", something that was used en masse primarily on 4chan in 2015 or so and spread to other social media.
No.37245
>>37241>the cool CD-ROM effect and aspect ratioWas probably too niche or possibly time consuming to use.
>content farms are going full throttle with this new cartoonProbably because of all the Rule 34 and people taking the bait so easily.
No.37247
>>37245>Probably because of all the Rule 34what? you think niche porn has an effect on youtuber clickbait? huh? what?
No.37248
>>37247>niche<the amazing digital circus 2520 (October 30, 2023)That's really high numbers for an indie show barely a year old, so it's probably getting exposure in content that gets a lot of views on twitter and stuff - erotic fanart.
No.37250
>>37249god imagine putting your face out there for every single shiny new thing just to make a couple of cents
No.37252
>>37250A whore is a whore, even a digital one.
I'm referring to the ecelebs, not Pomni here >>37249 Saw the video in the middle, and yeah it's just riding the hype and inevitable toxic fandom culture that arises; obviously people on reddit and twitter are going to have the most retarded takes like "Pomni is a bad character for running away". I feel like this is a result of capitalist alienation and the need for escapism resulting in modern fandoms and fandom culture in general becoming toxic groups of assholes… I suppose being a fanboy/girl often comes with the word "FANatic" implied.
I personally liked the pilot, it's disturbingly mindwarping but not overly grotesque, it plays with the old school computer graphics/glitch effect that reminds me of old school early 3D animations and game glitches. The concept of abstraction is kinda interesting as well and the colorful cartoon design offsets the horror without feeling off. Pomni so far is exactly the character the audience is with the most, as like her, we are ignorant of what's going on. Supposedly this is based off of Sartre's No Exit play, however it reminds me more of Five Characters in Search of an Exit from the Twilight Zone, which was inspired by No Exit. It also reminded me somewhat of the original Pinnochio story, regarding the other puppets and Буратино variation, particularly Pomni's jester outfit and Russian name.
On a separate note I find the immense amounts of Rule 34 after the episode debut being less than 2 weeks ago, almost fascinating.
No.37254
>>37253I've seen that pic everywhere LOL.
Good for you anon, watching a movie or tv show and enjoying it doesn't necessitate being embroiled in the shittiness of the fandom and clickbait ecelebs trying to ride the popularity, enjoy it for what it is.
No.37341
>>37252>>37253I thought it was kind of basic, nothing worth that much attention, but Pomni is cute and I'll probably watch the next episode
No.37343
>>37341it made me laugh, thats more than most shows these days.
also one of the voice actors ALLEGEDLY harassed someone i used to associate with and their boyfriend but i didn't realize it was them until the crdits rolled :^)
No.37344
>>37341>I thought it was kind of basicwhat makes you say that
No.37345
>>37344The jokes and the plot were very predictable and the visuals were 'ok' but nothing special. My overwhelming feeling was 'meh'.
No.37346
>>37345the visuals were one of the best parts
No.37348
>>37346I didn't really like the character designs and the visual fidelity from what I remember was impressive I suppose from an indie perspective but Gooseworx has millions of subs, they're not exactly underground, and it will probably take years for episodes to come out, I don't really see anything special enough to spend a bunch of time discussing/anticipating/etc.
My reading was that they were people who got stuck in some kind of VR hell and the reason why time isn't an issue is that maybe the simulation is running 10000x than real life. But the anon who said it's like SOMA might well be correct and that's a more parsimonious theory I suppose.
No.37349
>>37343> one of the voice actors ALLEGEDLY harassed someone i used to associate with and their boyfriendWhich VA?
>>37348>SOMA?
>I didn't really like the character designs I thought they were vibrant and colorful.
>Gooseworx has millions of subs Meaningless in this day and age any talentless hack ECeleb can have millions of subs, doesn't mean they're not indie.
>it will probably take years for episodes to come out Gooseworx is working with Glitch and runs Hunipop discussion, having friends with the Hazbin Hotel group, Lackadaisy group and now the group that produces Murder Drones. Episodes will probably be coming out every few months or so considering the pooling of resources here. Also the sheer popularity it exploded into in such a brief time is getting more and more people into it and the attention brings funding. Also there's rumors of a Digital Circus game being developed alongside the series, which is an additional attractant.
>Don't really see anything special enough to spend a bunch of time discussing/anticipatingYou don't, others do.
No.37354
>>37349Soma is a video game.
No.37356
>>37349>Which VA?Kingers, which feels weird, cause i actually really like this character.
No.37357
>>37354also holy shit, if the plot is anything like SOMA i will really like this show, SOMA gave me recurring nightmares for years and i still think about it all the time, such an interesting concept. i really hope the story goes down a similar path or something just as good.
No.37365
>>37354>>37357Oh, I didn't see anyone mention it in this thread so I was confused as to what was being referred to.
>>37356 >Sean ChiplockHim? The voice acting is good, but I honestly know nothing about the guy.
No.37366
>>37365i don't really know anything about him either, other than what aforementioned former associate had told me, could be just drama nonsense.
No.37633
*Note: The meme doesn't actually reflect my view. Well kind of, but I don't actually give a shit about calarts. Its a stupid point brought up by people with a clear bias.*
I have seen recently that more and more cartoons have been trying to go the anime route. In a way, I welcomed this, since I wanted more realistic proportions and more serious story telling. But the more I look at it, the more it seems it is all a cash grab. A way of cashing in on the trend of anime. So now they will make all their shows anime. I dislike this. Even if their is styles like lets say Justice League or Teen Titans, Batman Beyond, there is a certain distinct feel to it. But now, they simply want to emulate it. Hell, Scott Pilgrim, the premiere comic that would work wonders with a cartoony style is instead being marketed as an anime. Why? To pander, to try and get that market share. Its cynical. And it doesn't help that more cartoony, rubber hose inspired cartoons are being canned. WB have been especially bad. I'm no John K, with that RETVRN mindset when it comes to animation. But I dislike this trend, especially when it tries to capture the anime essence without truly getting it.
No.37635
>>37633I agree, they saw that anime and manga absolutely destroyed them at sales numbers and are now desperately and cynically trying to win people back.
No.37636
>>37633It's always been funny to me how
off-model Gumball got looped in with the 'calarts' meme. The only real argument is if you compare to the pilot design or something. The show
esp. S1 is outstanding in its era for being absolute eye-candy and not made in North America.
No.37637
>>37633Streaming services have just turned "anime" into a brand meaning "animation for adults". It's dumb but I care more about the quality of the end products than anything else.
>>37636Yeah the entire meme is bullshit and isn't how the characters actually look. The fact that it caught on tells you about the quality of 4chan/4chan-adjacent discourse.
No.37638
>>37637>the entire meme is bullshitToonboom isn't bullshit, that got debunked in these threads yeas ago. The images are only vaguely different to the actual models and Gumball is the only one that doesn't fit the meme if only because the rest of the show is so distinct. Beanface is very much an aspect of those 'cartoons' and the general style is very similar to one another, with (again) Gumball being the exception. The reason people started calling Toonboom style "calarts" is because it was "pioneered" in California Arts school, and became associated with it because the school has stopped educating animators properly and just focuses on cheap mass-produced product similar to many of the cheap shitty SoL anime that gets produced en masse in Japan, where they abuse keyframing to save money and time in animation rather than properly animating scenes.
TL;DR: Animation in corporations is shit either way, late stage capitalism is eating itself and mainstream art.
No.37685
>>37039/co/ has had endless threads about this pilot for weeks, so I decided to give it a watch. I don't really get it. maybe's it's baby's first existentialism for a lot of people?
>>37093>More series could do with a Bender.I hear he's great
No.37691
>>37686decided to rewatch it. I guess it's OK
No.37692
>>37633>. Hell, Scott Pilgrim, the premiere comic that would work wonders with a cartoony style is instead being marketed as an anime. Scott Pilgrim was always very western animeish. Like tumblr art style in general.
No.37693
>>37633>>37692And American animation was good mostly because it's not some hyper realistic cookie cutter shit. American animation was more about utilizing the distinctiveness of the art form with squash and stretch and visual gags and etc. I'd like to see Japan make some more stuff like Shin Chan and etc.
Yeah some realistic 99s animation would be cool, but what the entire world market is missing is cartoons that really have the spirit of animation.
No.37696
>>37694Hanna Barbera pioneered "limited animation" to produce animation cheaper. Instead of re-drawing the whole character you separated them into layers and re-drew only the parts that moved. That's why all their characters have collars. It makes it easier to separate the head from the body and animate them separately.
No.37784
>>37685It only appeals to people under 13 and people over 30. You wouldn't get it otherwise.
No.37788
>>37786Isn't this just an attempt at copying Timm?
No.37791
>>37638>muh commies>muh degenerate>attack helicopter jokeJfc what an awful meme
No.37792
>>37786Needs more tits and ass
No.37796
>>37795kinda weird that the mere presence of an attractive character is considered "fanservice" now, when i think of the term massive jiggling tits come to mind
No.37797
>watching cartoons
I hope all of you are still in school. Otherwise, yikes! And then I bet you wonder why none of you have gfs. I don't think women want to spend their days watching cartoons lol
No.37798
>>37795I was being flippant but I didn't mean just having eye candy. All this cape shit is so asexual and sterile. There's no sensuality or eroticism. The only desire expressed is to dominate and murder people and it's just kind of gross.
No.37799
>>37796Fanservice is like pantieshot and bath scene
No.37800
>>37797Please go back bein jock bully in some 90s school movie that you came from.
No.37804
>>37803I think this is due to budget. In fact the first season was even more unnecessarily brutal than the comic actually is, turning Omniman into someone who simply didn't care about collateral damage to a psycho who went out of his way to kill as many people as possible.
No.37836
>>378351- Is this actually from an episode?
2 - what is he cringing so hard at? the lack of sound makes it confusing
No.37844
>>37836throw it back = twerking
No.38022
>>37835uh oh! it's Edge-O-Clock!
No.38027
>>38026That is such an ass character design.
No.38035
i thought you guys were complaining about the adaptation looking low budget at first…
No.38037
>>37798Violence is sexual. Expand your horizons.
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