No.24481
First thread
>>2278I just watched the new Batman movie, it's about as boring and derived as you'd expect. The villain is a real psycho, apparently he hates Bruce Wayne's father because of his scam charity orphanage where children froze to death and the villain himself grew up in, and tries to publicly reveal his father's ties to organized crime and political corruption. Luckily Batman eventually teaches him the true meaning of love and forgiveness before the villain is thrown into an insane asylum for the rest of his days, and the credits roll.
I also watched Memoria, which was just as boring and I have nothing to say about.
No.24836
dropped tarkovsky's solaris partway through
anamorphic is a dealbreaker, and dude just wants to shoot epic shots that makes me think a lot about god or mortality or whatever
No.24868
Just watched pretty woman for the first time. Pretty insane movie were a rich guy gets a hooker who acts child like. He, I guess fell in love with her? The actor did well but he played the ridiculously rich guy almost villain like. The whole time it felt the other shoe would drop and Julia Roberts character was going to end up at an eyes wide shut party or being hunted most dangerous game style. Obviously that didn't happen, and they end up together. Very weird movie and interesting to watch. My favorite part is when Julia Roberts(the hooker) was picked up by hotel security the hotel manager gave her a cover story as their clients niece to cover for the guy. Who later on told the staff "no she's a hooker, get her whatever she wants". Flagrantly breaking the law in front of all these high end establishments and paying them absurd amounts of money to grovel and serve her. Which he seemed more amused by than hanging with Julia Roberts. Really weird movie, recommed watching it with a GF or wife. There's some soft sex scenes and you got a good chance at getting laid after suggesting a classic romcom.
No.24869
Haven't watched any movie in like 2 years
No.24872
>>24836>anamorphic is a dealbreakerWhy?
No.24873
>>24872looks really really bad
focus all over the place, wonky aspect ratio… it’s just a bad compromise
No.24877
>>24873aren't anamorphic lenses like notoriously difficult to stay focused? but the images they produce are also like, flatter and wider; which is why they've always been a favorite by certain filmmakers. I think Solaris is a beautiful film, but I agree with your general criticism; Tarkovsky is a romantic.
No.24907
rewatched come and see
still technically impressive and epic in scope, but it's still very lib and humanistic
more vaguely "anti-war" than even anti-fascist or anything
No.24932
>>24878>split between serious historical drama and exciting fantastical scenes (highlights of the movie imho).This is because it is based on sagas as well and they are told in the same way with the same elements of the supernatural
No.25076
Haven't seen DR Strange yet and the more clips I see the less I seek to. Just saw the Black Bolt scene that has "the smartest man" tell Wand BB's ability and they do the Matrix mouth seal scene before his power blows his brain out in a gut-churning disgusting way. This scene is beyond retarded. BB literally trained to keep completely silent at all times and has the experience NOT to panic like a retard. Moreover his power shoulda just blown his mouth open, but the visible gore'd make it not PG enough. Honestly annoying as fuck and a perfect example of this movie's retarded nature.
No.25079
>lib
>Come and see
Ты чё ахуел?
>vaguely "anti-war" than even anti-fascist
NO FUCKING SHIT
No.25083
>>25079Yeah lol only on leftypol can you see people accusing a soviet movie whose director lived trough the siege of Stalingrad as a kid of being lib.
Anyways just saw Everything Everywhere All At Once and it's a real masterpiece. Perfect blend between humor and tragedy, characters feel real, movie is wacky but authentic at the same time. Loved Raccacoonie and the dialogue between rocks. Best movie about a struggling family trying to pay their taxes in the multiverse.
No.25087
>>25076I watched it (only because friends did) and that part is a groaner. "Let's tell a clearly powerful person what our superweapon is!"
Look, shallow fun, I don't regret going but I wouldn't regret missing it either.
No.25088
>>25083>only on leftypol can you see people accusing a soviet movie whose director lived trough the siege of Stalingrad as a kid of being libI've seen redditors and /pol/ (i.e. the same people) claim that too, or even claiming the nazis in the movie had been right, so not the stupidest take at least.
>>25087Yeah, it's like the reverse of the "monologueing villain" trope.
No.25121
>>25083>experiencing the siege of stalingrad when you were a kid makes you a hecking epic marxist-leninistdude regularly battled with soviet authorities throughout his career and was a fan of perestroika, but that's just the context of the director anyways
No.25122
>>25121>experiencing the siege of stalingrad when you were a kid makes you a hecking epic marxist-leninist Imagine being such a fucking hack that you can't make a rebuttal that doesn't use pure strawmen. The point isn't that "hurr he's uber-communist cuz he survived Stalingrad" it's that he lived through hell and high water and its experiences shaped him as a man. People aren't divided into "le based commies" and "le stoopid libs" you terminally-online dichotomist.
>regularly battled with soviet authorities throughout his career And? Soviet bureaucracy hardly was perfect and anyone that lived then can attest to that, even hardline communists.
>as a fan of perestroikaCitation? Also even assuming this, you have no comprehension of the Perestroika and the support of it. People thought it'd be a return to Lenin's ideals and supported it because Soviet Bureaucracy had become too heavy and essentially took power from the people, and they sought change. This isn't an excuse for Gorbachev and Yeltsin's betrayals, but it is an explanation as to the support of it. Hindsight is 20:20
>that's just the context of the director anywaysYes, it has NO bearing on the film at all. A literal Belorus Partisan had been the inspiration and advisor of the film and so it had been made close to reality, nothing lib about it.
No.25125
>>25122>In 1986, fresh from the success of Come and See, and with the changes brought by perestroika in the air, Klimov was chosen by his colleagues to be the First Secretary of the Filmmakers' Union following the V Congress of the Soviet Filmmakers. During the congress all previous heads of the Filmmakers' Union — including Lev Kulidzhanov, Sergei Bondarchuk, Stanislav Rostotsky and others — were overthrown in favor of "liberal" activists. According to some critics and filmmakers, the congress was conducted by Alexander Yakovlev, one of the grey cardinals of Perestroika who was unofficially presented there, consulting the activists from time to time.>Klimov's leadership saw the belated release of many of the previously banned films and the reinstatement of several directors who had fallen out of political favor. This period is widely considered as the start of decline of Soviet cinema and the rise of the so-called "chernukha", namely artists and journalists, who, freed by glasnost, exposed Soviet reality in the most pessimistic possible light.keep coping
like I said, it's still an impressive movie, but it is aggressively apolitical about the Eastern Front and is largely indifferent to the Soviet opposition. it opts instead for long mystical almost religious sequences and atrocity porn that seek to instill a general feeling of vague pie-in-the-sky humanism, it's very much influenced by Tarkovsky's similar stuff, and there's a good chance it was more of a commentary on the Soviet-Afghan War using the more politically correct "Great Patriotic War"
No.25130
>>25125>Greentext>no sourcepost the source, and it better not be vikipedia
<copingOver what, you demented ideologue? I don't care about his political ideology because it has no real impact on the film. The creator the 28 Panfilovits film is a Russian Nationalist, yet his politics have ZERO influence on the film because it is divorced from his personal politics and in films that do have the creators insert their political ideologies it is blatantly obvious. The main and only influence from Klimov isn't his bureaucratic life but his personal experience of the terror and hurt that war carries, that is all that matters.
>it is aggressively apoliticalHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
1) That's a goddamn contradiction, it not going into politics is just apolitical, it doesn't attack political messages at all, it just doesn't go into them.
2) The only aggressive part of the film is the brutality of the Nazis and their Nazi ideology
>largely indifferent to the Soviet opposition It's not a film depicting the heroic struggle but the horrors of the war for people from the perspective of the veterans. They do not feel glory trying to fight nazis, they are just fighting, surviving and struggling Не на жизень а насмерть. Films glorifying Soviet troops in the war are for the people that did not fight or had not seen it to recognize and commemorate the heroic struggle, but this film is about the perspective of the actual war - glory has no place in this, because that is not the point of the film
>long mystical almost religious sequences and atrocity porn<Artform symbolism contrasted to harsh realistic depiction of the realities is 'religious' and 'atrocity porn' Блять англо-саксонская мышленость это просто полный Ахтунг
>seek to instill a general feeling of vague pie-in-the-sky humanism No, no it doesn't you fucking clod. It is a film, a visual medium of depiction, it's not supposed to be a philosophical essay deconstructing an ideology, it is a presentation of concepts and emotions through a story. There term "Drama" is a poor translation of the term "Художествтвиный Фильм" the term used for such a film in Soviet and Russian film circles. The humanism is not defined in exact terms because that's not needed, you understand it all just by seeing it, as if you are experiencing its horror and grimness from the side, and see the main character - a child for all real intents and purposes struggle to hold on to sanity and humanity in a dehumanizing meatgrinder, and despite it all he and his allies do no stoop to the level of his torturers in their struggle.
>a good chance it was more of a commentary on the Soviet-Afghan War You have no evidence to that and given that in that VERY SAME Perestroika there existed SEVERAL films directly depicting the harsh realities of that conflict - most notably Афганский излом and the director did not even mention Afghanistan as even a remote reason for his film, you´re just finding inane and irrelevant reasons or speculations to put down the film.
No.25142
>>25130>muh source>muh definitions>muh evidencei thought we were discussing art, not an academic paper
No.25158
>>25142Nice goal post shifting.
No.25160
>>25083>Yeah lol only on leftypol can you see people accusing a soviet movie whose director lived trough the siege of Stalingrad as a kid of being lib.Now that you mention it, "listen to my lived experience" is lib rhetoric, remember that progressive stack praxis they did at Occupy Wall Street?
>Anyways just saw Everything Everywhere All At Once and it's a real masterpiecenew cult classic indie movie just dropped, movies are back baby!
No.25256
Just watched the Fyre Festival doc, which brought on a bunch of people that were involved in its organization as talking heads, and the narrative is kind of like there were a bunch of obvious red flags it was just a scam, but they apparently went along with it anyways and then acted like victims or that they were looking out for people or something. Anyways, kind of a funny scamming of Instagram rich kids. Billy McFarland is just one of those low-effort grifters that can somehow get by in a place like gentrified NYC nowadays.
No.25278
>>25277I want to make sex with her, if you catch my drift
did you get scared at all by the movie? No.25294
>>25277Watch Everything Everywhere All at Once instead. The multiverse concept was really under utilized.
>>25278Its a marvel movie bro.
No.25300
jesus camp
very nice deconstructive documentary from 2006
i didn’t like the bits where they had some talk show radio host ranting about how they’re not true christians, i think he’s just uncomfortable over how they bare the true ugliness at the core
dvd rip with english subs:
https://anonfiles.com/b6Cdx2j9yb/Jesus_Camp_2006_zip No.25309
>>25308np
also just checked what they’re like now and they seem to just have become your standard petty bourgeois normie and even stayed in christianity somewhat, except for the bowl cut kid who took the hippy path
pretty uncanny
https://thecinemaholic.com/where-are-the-jesus-camp-children-now/ No.25310
I watched "Old" (2021). It was pretty mediocre. Not abysmal, but just not good - M. Night Shyamalan might be one of the few directors who gets worse over time. Unlike his other movies, there was no typical twist, that revelation in the end can barely called anything like that, because you can see it from a mile coming.
The concept of aging rapidly isn't new per se, and not bad per se, but he didn't really know what to do with it. The only classical trope was lady obsessed with her own beauty going mad over aging, and then died in a horrific twisted way - that was the only really creepy scene. Other than that, the movie was surprisingly PG-13, they wouldn't even show a skeleton. Also, the main characters that escape will not be okay, imagine you are a 6 year old in the body of a 50 year old - you'd be diagnosed as clinically infantile and get a warden. The dialog was rather awkward and the ending felt weirdly anticlimatic - so they are doing those super secret experiments, but don't even have security?
If you have nothing else to watch you can give it a try. It's not bad but is just really kinda there, it doesn't really do anything with its premise.
No.25312
>>25294Saw that with my gf in fact, better movie admittedly, very funny and surprisingly heartfelt
Saw Dr. Strange with my best friend while blazed
> Its a marvel movie bro.No, that’s specifically Elizabeth Olsen who is a stacy
No.25357
>>25355I read the play it's a fun one
No.25376
Anyone watched Top Gun 2 yet? It'll be naked US military propaganda, but I think it'll look cool when the jets go swooooosh
No.25381
>>25378Wish a theater near me had it. Perfect capstone to Scorsese's mob flick career tbh.
No.25431
>>25378haven't seen it yet but I dig Scorsese movies. Even the "bad" ones like Gangs of New York. How does he troll the boomers?
No.25438
>>25431It’s basically a subtle and not-so-subtle deconstruction of nostalgia for the 50s-70s
No.25440
>>25431>>25438The movie opens with a Scorsese Long Single Shot with the main character doing a monologue, except instead of it being a scene of glamor and excess it's a sad and empty nursing home. The whole movie is about reflecting on where the main character is left after all his mob shenanigans and is basically holding you down and asking you what any of it was for.
No.25441
>>25438Oh, and I feel like he fucks with people who probably expected a Goodfellas/Casino 3.0
No.25443
>>25438>>25438>>25440so why is he deconstructing them?
is he not happy with the place the people have expected of him
No.25450
Shooting for Scorsese’s next movie, about the Osage Indian Murders, already started April of last year
He also has a biopic about the Grateful Dead in development
Dude is still kicking it
No.25547
New Fantastic Beasts. Becoming even less surprised at JK Rowling being a reactionary TERF. This is literally like Queer-Coded Villain: The Franchise. Sure, Dumbledore is gay, but who does his love interest end up being? The fucking predecessor to Voldemort. There’s a clear subtext here that his love is a regretful sickness that makes him amoral and selfish. Voldemort/Tom Riddle himself was kind of cast as an asexual or some kind of libertine, which is purposefully atypical in a narrative where all of the Good characters end up in an unnecessary heterosexual monogamous romance or the other. There’s also some orientalism in this and the previous movie. Overall, just a dumb look into the mind palace of some rich conservative British woman.
No.25548
>>25547Also, worth mentioning how under the radar and un-promoted these movie are lol. I only found out the first 2 even existed last year, and I found this one out when it appeared on rarbg’s recommended torrents. They also appear to be unacknowledged as valid Harry Potter lore by a lot of the fan sites.
No.25554
>>25450> Some sixty or more wealthy, full-blood Osage Native Americans were reported killed from 1918 to 1931Why and how
Do you know more
>>25547I haven't watched those movies but it's really cool that weird euro guy plays Grindlewald
No.25556
>>25554you googled the wikipedia article for the murders and read it and need an explanation for why it happened?
No.25557
>>25556yes, i don't want to spoil myself
was it class issue? did the poorer native americans kill them or was it corporations
No.25765
Just watched Fresh (2022) torrented, fuck Hulu and it was great. One of the best films I've seen in recent years. Big recommend, especially to this audience.
Themes: social alienation, nuclear family v little-to-no family, dating app anti-sociality, commodification v friendship/solidarity, sociopathy, the lumpen petite-bourgeoisie, the black market, cannibalism, proletarian feminism
No.25828
>>25776>>25779Chris Morris is fucking brilliant, what are you on about
No.25839
>>25828He is, I loved The Day Today/Brass Eye, but these movies kinda fell flat for me.
No.26064
>>26062not on rarbg yet so can't say
sounds really cool though
No.26147
>>26123Heretical trash made by Hollywood encouraging Christians to give up their faith upon experiencing pain/suffering/death when there's an explicit bible passage saying that to do so will deny you salvation.
No.26150
>>26123Japan was right to kill christoid converts
No.26180
>>26123Thought it was dull torture porn to be honest.
No.26182
>>26180religious people enjoy that
No.26183
>>26182Christian here, I didn't.
No.26220
>>26183>Christian herelmao
>>26180nah see i thought that was the point, christian missionaries get off to martyrdom fantasies, more than they want to actually "do good" by the people they meet.
Course for scorcese personally, i got the feeling he was trying to talk about what it's like to be a christoid in Hollywood, but w/e
No.26269
Watched Who Framed Roger Rabbit? for the first time. Very charming movie that I was surprised to learn is also based and public transport-pilled.
No.26270
>>26218this is literally nonce propaganda
No.26312
Project X. Basically Superbad but actually funny and clever, at points.
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