No.24481[Last 50 Posts]
First thread
>>2278I just watched the new Batman movie, it's about as boring and derived as you'd expect. The villain is a real psycho, apparently he hates Bruce Wayne's father because of his scam charity orphanage where children froze to death and the villain himself grew up in, and tries to publicly reveal his father's ties to organized crime and political corruption. Luckily Batman eventually teaches him the true meaning of love and forgiveness before the villain is thrown into an insane asylum for the rest of his days, and the credits roll.
I also watched Memoria, which was just as boring and I have nothing to say about.
No.24836
dropped tarkovsky's solaris partway through
anamorphic is a dealbreaker, and dude just wants to shoot epic shots that makes me think a lot about god or mortality or whatever
No.24868
Just watched pretty woman for the first time. Pretty insane movie were a rich guy gets a hooker who acts child like. He, I guess fell in love with her? The actor did well but he played the ridiculously rich guy almost villain like. The whole time it felt the other shoe would drop and Julia Roberts character was going to end up at an eyes wide shut party or being hunted most dangerous game style. Obviously that didn't happen, and they end up together. Very weird movie and interesting to watch. My favorite part is when Julia Roberts(the hooker) was picked up by hotel security the hotel manager gave her a cover story as their clients niece to cover for the guy. Who later on told the staff "no she's a hooker, get her whatever she wants". Flagrantly breaking the law in front of all these high end establishments and paying them absurd amounts of money to grovel and serve her. Which he seemed more amused by than hanging with Julia Roberts. Really weird movie, recommed watching it with a GF or wife. There's some soft sex scenes and you got a good chance at getting laid after suggesting a classic romcom.
No.24869
Haven't watched any movie in like 2 years
No.24872
>>24836>anamorphic is a dealbreakerWhy?
No.24873
>>24872looks really really bad
focus all over the place, wonky aspect ratio… it’s just a bad compromise
No.24877
>>24873aren't anamorphic lenses like notoriously difficult to stay focused? but the images they produce are also like, flatter and wider; which is why they've always been a favorite by certain filmmakers. I think Solaris is a beautiful film, but I agree with your general criticism; Tarkovsky is a romantic.
No.24907
rewatched come and see
still technically impressive and epic in scope, but it's still very lib and humanistic
more vaguely "anti-war" than even anti-fascist or anything
No.24932
>>24878>split between serious historical drama and exciting fantastical scenes (highlights of the movie imho).This is because it is based on sagas as well and they are told in the same way with the same elements of the supernatural
No.25076
Haven't seen DR Strange yet and the more clips I see the less I seek to. Just saw the Black Bolt scene that has "the smartest man" tell Wand BB's ability and they do the Matrix mouth seal scene before his power blows his brain out in a gut-churning disgusting way. This scene is beyond retarded. BB literally trained to keep completely silent at all times and has the experience NOT to panic like a retard. Moreover his power shoulda just blown his mouth open, but the visible gore'd make it not PG enough. Honestly annoying as fuck and a perfect example of this movie's retarded nature.
No.25079
>lib
>Come and see
Ты чё ахуел?
>vaguely "anti-war" than even anti-fascist
NO FUCKING SHIT
No.25083
>>25079Yeah lol only on leftypol can you see people accusing a soviet movie whose director lived trough the siege of Stalingrad as a kid of being lib.
Anyways just saw Everything Everywhere All At Once and it's a real masterpiece. Perfect blend between humor and tragedy, characters feel real, movie is wacky but authentic at the same time. Loved Raccacoonie and the dialogue between rocks. Best movie about a struggling family trying to pay their taxes in the multiverse.
No.25087
>>25076I watched it (only because friends did) and that part is a groaner. "Let's tell a clearly powerful person what our superweapon is!"
Look, shallow fun, I don't regret going but I wouldn't regret missing it either.
No.25088
>>25083>only on leftypol can you see people accusing a soviet movie whose director lived trough the siege of Stalingrad as a kid of being libI've seen redditors and /pol/ (i.e. the same people) claim that too, or even claiming the nazis in the movie had been right, so not the stupidest take at least.
>>25087Yeah, it's like the reverse of the "monologueing villain" trope.
No.25121
>>25083>experiencing the siege of stalingrad when you were a kid makes you a hecking epic marxist-leninistdude regularly battled with soviet authorities throughout his career and was a fan of perestroika, but that's just the context of the director anyways
No.25122
>>25121>experiencing the siege of stalingrad when you were a kid makes you a hecking epic marxist-leninist Imagine being such a fucking hack that you can't make a rebuttal that doesn't use pure strawmen. The point isn't that "hurr he's uber-communist cuz he survived Stalingrad" it's that he lived through hell and high water and its experiences shaped him as a man. People aren't divided into "le based commies" and "le stoopid libs" you terminally-online dichotomist.
>regularly battled with soviet authorities throughout his career And? Soviet bureaucracy hardly was perfect and anyone that lived then can attest to that, even hardline communists.
>as a fan of perestroikaCitation? Also even assuming this, you have no comprehension of the Perestroika and the support of it. People thought it'd be a return to Lenin's ideals and supported it because Soviet Bureaucracy had become too heavy and essentially took power from the people, and they sought change. This isn't an excuse for Gorbachev and Yeltsin's betrayals, but it is an explanation as to the support of it. Hindsight is 20:20
>that's just the context of the director anywaysYes, it has NO bearing on the film at all. A literal Belorus Partisan had been the inspiration and advisor of the film and so it had been made close to reality, nothing lib about it.
No.25125
>>25122>In 1986, fresh from the success of Come and See, and with the changes brought by perestroika in the air, Klimov was chosen by his colleagues to be the First Secretary of the Filmmakers' Union following the V Congress of the Soviet Filmmakers. During the congress all previous heads of the Filmmakers' Union — including Lev Kulidzhanov, Sergei Bondarchuk, Stanislav Rostotsky and others — were overthrown in favor of "liberal" activists. According to some critics and filmmakers, the congress was conducted by Alexander Yakovlev, one of the grey cardinals of Perestroika who was unofficially presented there, consulting the activists from time to time.>Klimov's leadership saw the belated release of many of the previously banned films and the reinstatement of several directors who had fallen out of political favor. This period is widely considered as the start of decline of Soviet cinema and the rise of the so-called "chernukha", namely artists and journalists, who, freed by glasnost, exposed Soviet reality in the most pessimistic possible light.keep coping
like I said, it's still an impressive movie, but it is aggressively apolitical about the Eastern Front and is largely indifferent to the Soviet opposition. it opts instead for long mystical almost religious sequences and atrocity porn that seek to instill a general feeling of vague pie-in-the-sky humanism, it's very much influenced by Tarkovsky's similar stuff, and there's a good chance it was more of a commentary on the Soviet-Afghan War using the more politically correct "Great Patriotic War"
No.25130
>>25125>Greentext>no sourcepost the source, and it better not be vikipedia
<copingOver what, you demented ideologue? I don't care about his political ideology because it has no real impact on the film. The creator the 28 Panfilovits film is a Russian Nationalist, yet his politics have ZERO influence on the film because it is divorced from his personal politics and in films that do have the creators insert their political ideologies it is blatantly obvious. The main and only influence from Klimov isn't his bureaucratic life but his personal experience of the terror and hurt that war carries, that is all that matters.
>it is aggressively apoliticalHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
1) That's a goddamn contradiction, it not going into politics is just apolitical, it doesn't attack political messages at all, it just doesn't go into them.
2) The only aggressive part of the film is the brutality of the Nazis and their Nazi ideology
>largely indifferent to the Soviet opposition It's not a film depicting the heroic struggle but the horrors of the war for people from the perspective of the veterans. They do not feel glory trying to fight nazis, they are just fighting, surviving and struggling Не на жизень а насмерть. Films glorifying Soviet troops in the war are for the people that did not fight or had not seen it to recognize and commemorate the heroic struggle, but this film is about the perspective of the actual war - glory has no place in this, because that is not the point of the film
>long mystical almost religious sequences and atrocity porn<Artform symbolism contrasted to harsh realistic depiction of the realities is 'religious' and 'atrocity porn' Блять англо-саксонская мышленость это просто полный Ахтунг
>seek to instill a general feeling of vague pie-in-the-sky humanism No, no it doesn't you fucking clod. It is a film, a visual medium of depiction, it's not supposed to be a philosophical essay deconstructing an ideology, it is a presentation of concepts and emotions through a story. There term "Drama" is a poor translation of the term "Художествтвиный Фильм" the term used for such a film in Soviet and Russian film circles. The humanism is not defined in exact terms because that's not needed, you understand it all just by seeing it, as if you are experiencing its horror and grimness from the side, and see the main character - a child for all real intents and purposes struggle to hold on to sanity and humanity in a dehumanizing meatgrinder, and despite it all he and his allies do no stoop to the level of his torturers in their struggle.
>a good chance it was more of a commentary on the Soviet-Afghan War You have no evidence to that and given that in that VERY SAME Perestroika there existed SEVERAL films directly depicting the harsh realities of that conflict - most notably Афганский излом and the director did not even mention Afghanistan as even a remote reason for his film, you´re just finding inane and irrelevant reasons or speculations to put down the film.
No.25142
>>25130>muh source>muh definitions>muh evidencei thought we were discussing art, not an academic paper
No.25158
>>25142Nice goal post shifting.
No.25160
>>25083>Yeah lol only on leftypol can you see people accusing a soviet movie whose director lived trough the siege of Stalingrad as a kid of being lib.Now that you mention it, "listen to my lived experience" is lib rhetoric, remember that progressive stack praxis they did at Occupy Wall Street?
>Anyways just saw Everything Everywhere All At Once and it's a real masterpiecenew cult classic indie movie just dropped, movies are back baby!
No.25256
Just watched the Fyre Festival doc, which brought on a bunch of people that were involved in its organization as talking heads, and the narrative is kind of like there were a bunch of obvious red flags it was just a scam, but they apparently went along with it anyways and then acted like victims or that they were looking out for people or something. Anyways, kind of a funny scamming of Instagram rich kids. Billy McFarland is just one of those low-effort grifters that can somehow get by in a place like gentrified NYC nowadays.
No.25278
>>25277I want to make sex with her, if you catch my drift
did you get scared at all by the movie? No.25294
>>25277Watch Everything Everywhere All at Once instead. The multiverse concept was really under utilized.
>>25278Its a marvel movie bro.
No.25300
jesus camp
very nice deconstructive documentary from 2006
i didn’t like the bits where they had some talk show radio host ranting about how they’re not true christians, i think he’s just uncomfortable over how they bare the true ugliness at the core
dvd rip with english subs:
https://anonfiles.com/b6Cdx2j9yb/Jesus_Camp_2006_zip No.25309
>>25308np
also just checked what they’re like now and they seem to just have become your standard petty bourgeois normie and even stayed in christianity somewhat, except for the bowl cut kid who took the hippy path
pretty uncanny
https://thecinemaholic.com/where-are-the-jesus-camp-children-now/ No.25310
I watched "Old" (2021). It was pretty mediocre. Not abysmal, but just not good - M. Night Shyamalan might be one of the few directors who gets worse over time. Unlike his other movies, there was no typical twist, that revelation in the end can barely called anything like that, because you can see it from a mile coming.
The concept of aging rapidly isn't new per se, and not bad per se, but he didn't really know what to do with it. The only classical trope was lady obsessed with her own beauty going mad over aging, and then died in a horrific twisted way - that was the only really creepy scene. Other than that, the movie was surprisingly PG-13, they wouldn't even show a skeleton. Also, the main characters that escape will not be okay, imagine you are a 6 year old in the body of a 50 year old - you'd be diagnosed as clinically infantile and get a warden. The dialog was rather awkward and the ending felt weirdly anticlimatic - so they are doing those super secret experiments, but don't even have security?
If you have nothing else to watch you can give it a try. It's not bad but is just really kinda there, it doesn't really do anything with its premise.
No.25312
>>25294Saw that with my gf in fact, better movie admittedly, very funny and surprisingly heartfelt
Saw Dr. Strange with my best friend while blazed
> Its a marvel movie bro.No, that’s specifically Elizabeth Olsen who is a stacy
No.25357
>>25355I read the play it's a fun one
No.25376
Anyone watched Top Gun 2 yet? It'll be naked US military propaganda, but I think it'll look cool when the jets go swooooosh
No.25381
>>25378Wish a theater near me had it. Perfect capstone to Scorsese's mob flick career tbh.
No.25431
>>25378haven't seen it yet but I dig Scorsese movies. Even the "bad" ones like Gangs of New York. How does he troll the boomers?
No.25438
>>25431It’s basically a subtle and not-so-subtle deconstruction of nostalgia for the 50s-70s
No.25440
>>25431>>25438The movie opens with a Scorsese Long Single Shot with the main character doing a monologue, except instead of it being a scene of glamor and excess it's a sad and empty nursing home. The whole movie is about reflecting on where the main character is left after all his mob shenanigans and is basically holding you down and asking you what any of it was for.
No.25441
>>25438Oh, and I feel like he fucks with people who probably expected a Goodfellas/Casino 3.0
No.25443
>>25438>>25438>>25440so why is he deconstructing them?
is he not happy with the place the people have expected of him
No.25450
Shooting for Scorsese’s next movie, about the Osage Indian Murders, already started April of last year
He also has a biopic about the Grateful Dead in development
Dude is still kicking it
No.25547
New Fantastic Beasts. Becoming even less surprised at JK Rowling being a reactionary TERF. This is literally like Queer-Coded Villain: The Franchise. Sure, Dumbledore is gay, but who does his love interest end up being? The fucking predecessor to Voldemort. There’s a clear subtext here that his love is a regretful sickness that makes him amoral and selfish. Voldemort/Tom Riddle himself was kind of cast as an asexual or some kind of libertine, which is purposefully atypical in a narrative where all of the Good characters end up in an unnecessary heterosexual monogamous romance or the other. There’s also some orientalism in this and the previous movie. Overall, just a dumb look into the mind palace of some rich conservative British woman.
No.25548
>>25547Also, worth mentioning how under the radar and un-promoted these movie are lol. I only found out the first 2 even existed last year, and I found this one out when it appeared on rarbg’s recommended torrents. They also appear to be unacknowledged as valid Harry Potter lore by a lot of the fan sites.
No.25554
>>25450> Some sixty or more wealthy, full-blood Osage Native Americans were reported killed from 1918 to 1931Why and how
Do you know more
>>25547I haven't watched those movies but it's really cool that weird euro guy plays Grindlewald
No.25556
>>25554you googled the wikipedia article for the murders and read it and need an explanation for why it happened?
No.25557
>>25556yes, i don't want to spoil myself
was it class issue? did the poorer native americans kill them or was it corporations
No.25765
Just watched Fresh (2022) torrented, fuck Hulu and it was great. One of the best films I've seen in recent years. Big recommend, especially to this audience.
Themes: social alienation, nuclear family v little-to-no family, dating app anti-sociality, commodification v friendship/solidarity, sociopathy, the lumpen petite-bourgeoisie, the black market, cannibalism, proletarian feminism
No.25828
>>25776>>25779Chris Morris is fucking brilliant, what are you on about
No.25839
>>25828He is, I loved The Day Today/Brass Eye, but these movies kinda fell flat for me.
No.26064
>>26062not on rarbg yet so can't say
sounds really cool though
No.26147
>>26123Heretical trash made by Hollywood encouraging Christians to give up their faith upon experiencing pain/suffering/death when there's an explicit bible passage saying that to do so will deny you salvation.
No.26150
>>26123Japan was right to kill christoid converts
No.26180
>>26123Thought it was dull torture porn to be honest.
No.26182
>>26180religious people enjoy that
No.26183
>>26182Christian here, I didn't.
No.26220
>>26183>Christian herelmao
>>26180nah see i thought that was the point, christian missionaries get off to martyrdom fantasies, more than they want to actually "do good" by the people they meet.
Course for scorcese personally, i got the feeling he was trying to talk about what it's like to be a christoid in Hollywood, but w/e
No.26269
Watched Who Framed Roger Rabbit? for the first time. Very charming movie that I was surprised to learn is also based and public transport-pilled.
No.26270
>>26218this is literally nonce propaganda
No.26312
Project X. Basically Superbad but actually funny and clever, at points.
No.26384
>>26269If you watch Chinatown for the first time after you've seen Who Framed Roger Rabbit all you will be thinkijg about is Who Framed Roger Rabbit because they have the same plot beat for beat
No.26394
Have any of you seen Lord of War? I know they're not that similar, but when it comes to the arms dealer genre of movies I think it was superior to War Dogs. I know the latter is much more of a comedy, but at times they're kind of similar, though while I enjoyed both I think the former is a much better representation of the gun dealer archetype and all the trauma it brings.
No.26397
>>26394Yeah, it was a good use of Nic Cage tbh. His acting lends itself well to damaged people.
No.26398
What do you think of Schindler's List? It's a very well-done movie from a technical and moviemaking standpoint, but I am unsure what the message is. They are trying to portray Schindler as someone who ends up saving those Jews because of the logic of profit. But in reality, the Holocaust was massively profitable for German companies. The Jews were also portrayed as basically incapable who need to be patronized to not lambs being sent to the slaughter.
There are so many instances of communist and Jewish resistence against the Holocaust, and yet Hollywood always portrays the resistence of capitalists, conservatives (Stauffenberg) or clerics (Bonhöfer).
No.26399
>>26397I am just happy for Nic Cage to have finally found his niche in recent years, with surreal Lovecraftian independent productions. Really the best way to use him. Mandy and Colour from Out of Space were nice.
No.26411
>>26398it's directed by the guy that did Jaws and Indiana Jones, so it's not exactly gonna be deep
i liked the black-and-white cinematography though
No.26416
>>26397That reminds me I need to watch Leaving Las Vegas
No.26426
>>26398>But in reality, the Holocaust was massively profitable for German companiesCould you elaborate a bit on this? In what way was it profitable? It doesn't have to be here ofc, if you want make a thread in /edu/ or something, but I'm interested in the topic so any other info or sources you have that talk about this that you'd like to drop here, I'd really appreciate it
No.26514
>>26513Also it's like Prometheus in that the crew are laughably incompetent fuck-ups
No.26516
>>26384Yeah I watched RLM's video on Roger Rabbit. I want to watch that at some point too.
No.26525
>>26513The ending twist was amazing. But the alien would probably ended up in a hotpot landed in Asia speaking from experience.
>>26514The worst of that trope has to be Alien Covenant. It's a fucking borderline slapstick comedy.
No.26620
>>26618Also on Vice:
The movie starts off by saying it's an attempt to explain Cheney's life. Over half the runtime is dedicated to his term as vice president and it's basically a checklist of news stories and controversies that everyone would have heard of back then. For the time before that, it's just vague and dramatized to shit. Also it kind of falls flat critiquing the Dubya presidency when you yourself are an absolute preening neolib.
No.26665
Is yesmovies dead?
No.26826
>>26513This movie is basically Alien but instead of being about the Vietnam War it's about the War on Terror. There are lots of elements of the bureaucratic security state blowing back on itself, with the ending being the most heavy-handed metaphor of blow-back.
No.27000
What are some Communist kino? Specifically, movies made in AES states
No.27022
>>26998Thor : Love & Thunder was the superior viking kino of the year
They even showed Valhalla in the end
No.27023
>>27022Why is his hammer gigantic? Does Marvel even have any idea what Mjollnir was supposed to be anymore?
No.27024
>>27023it's not the Mjollnir tho, It's the Stormbreaker, that hammer he made in infinity war.
No.27029
>>27022does anyone even like stage 4 mcu, its so fucking bad
No.27030
>>27023This ain't your daddy's space viking
It's a Bifrost that can help inter-dimensional travel
Is a villain like Gorr part of Viking mythos?
Also he gets the "mew mew" back in this movie with a special upgrade No.27032
>>27030i hate mcu faggots so much
No.27040
>>27029it sells
MCU is the 21st century nickelodeon
No.27042
>>26665Yep, they finally got to them. There is this though
https://yesmovies.ag/ No.27046
>>27030It's some dogshit Williamson made up along with jane-Thor
>>26989It was fun
No.27086
Re-watched both of these again, and the "its Rambo for Russians" rings true. The main character is a war vet that fought in the first Chechen War, in which the dialogue subtly glorifies it. Throughout the first movie, all the criminals besides the protag and his brother, are Chechens. More so the sequel's villains are all Ukrainians. The same protag in the sequel now is extravagantly wealthy and a celebrity just for speaking about his experience in the military. There's a scene early on where a literal fucking neo-nazi gun merchant is portrayed as a "le wacky but wholesome" individual. It toots its own horn by showing that Russians aren't as racist and morally corrupt as Americans are. Even more ironic since one of the Russian channels showing re-runs of this film decided to add video of the BLM protests post credits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiT4pmCEApYI admit the cinematography for both films is decent, and I can see why non-Russian cinephiles(esp. non Slavs) that like crime dramas can easily fall for Russian Nationalist propaganda.
No.27088
>>27086lmao
vatniks b like
No.27115
>>27086I watched both of these movies a few months ago and both were pretty good. Thought the nationalism in the 2nd movie was obnoxious though, which is why I liked the 1st one better. But the 2nd movie does have a better soundtrack
No.27116
>>27115 (me)
Also recently in Belgorod, a McDonalds was removed because of sanctions and they played Goodbye America as they removed it. The 2nd movie resonates with how a lot of Russians view the current war in Ukraine
No.27245
I just finished the 8 episode netflix series Resident Evil.
What a load of horseshit. Why do all new series have this same feeling of being mostly drama filled with nice effects. I love the original Mila Yakonovich Resident Evil movie saga. It's campy, showy, ridiculous. This show hit none of that. They didn't even get the "shadowy profiteers" right. The CEO was such a bland and goofy character, completely dispensable series.
Extremely badly written, very slow, nothing made sense. I know it sounds bad when I say it like this but I have a feeling that the creators were targeting a female audience, and the way they did it is so bland. The reason I say this is because female characters get the most screentime, there's a boycrush, there's a woman CEO who's also lesbian, the main character's husband takes care of the kid, he's a gentle pushover useless himbo, the main character has a female child that's a genius. It's as if this was written by a tumblr fanfic writer and that's even an insult to them. The writer wrote Supernatural.
It's like all series they're putting out they put them through this california liberal filter which is so fucking annoying and bland. Same with Star Trek Discovery. Bruh, if I wanted to see drama, I would've chosen drama.
The reviews are terrible too.
No.27246
>>27245Yeah you kind of have to assume anything Netflix original is mediocre if not outright bad at this point, the streaming bubble is slowly bursting so they're very desperate to pull the CW crowd in and keep them paying.
No.27258
>>27245Resident Evil is already really popular with women. I don't understand why they just didn't make… Resident Evil: The Show. Like, just go ahead and lift the story straight from the games. Lift the characters straight from the games. You know. The same games and stories and characters that have made Resident Evil popular for over 20 years and have sold millions of games, figures, movies, and other merchandise.
No.27324
“Nobody in the world, nobody in history, has ever gotten their freedom by appealing to the moral sense of the people who were oppressing them.” Assata Shakur
Solidly done cinéma vérité piece from 1971 capturing the idealistic, lofty, self-righteous New Left of the 60s crashing onto the shores of the hard, bitter, guerrilla 70s before they were eventually crushed under the weight of neoconservatism. Did a good job of showing how the hippies failed to appeal to the conscience of the tribunal which already had its own conscience made up, being composed mostly of non-judges and people like a trade union steward, a conservative housewife, a bourgeois sociologist, etc. representing the New Right which sought to set up an intellectual wall to the ideas of the New Left. The black revolutionaries' Malcolm X/Fred Hampton-esque charismatic, enunciated Black Power tirades fall flat against actual violent backlash from the state. The news crew's indignation and threats of publicity of what happened are also ignored by the soldiers and policemen who know they'll be protected.
No.27514
>>27512>Movie stops>Real hand grabs the literal filmstock>We're at a filmmaker's workshopunfathomably based
No.27544
>>27518how many titties were in it
No.27700
>>27518seconding anon's request
No.27752
>>27751Not that Control was bad, but i think i enjoyed my time more with the second film.
No.27964
>>27751control was dumb boring schlock imo, just another corny biopic
probably doesn’t help that i don’t see what’s so special about joy division or ian curtis
No.27966
>>27964>control was dumb boring schlock imo, just another corny biopicI think it told its story pretty decently. But as a movie overall? It was ok, and just that.
>probably doesn’t help that i don’t see what’s so special about joy division or ian curtisThere's nothing really special about them, but i just like the band and wanted to know more about them, and Ian, so that's what got me interested in the movie.
No.27967
>>27966read their wikipedia articles
No.28098
>>28097[still watching]
Ok I realize
The Boondocks already made a
Do The Right Thing reference with
The Block is Hot that's actually what inspired me to watch it but I didn't realize just how much they were connected.
No.28103
The Grey Man was surprisingly entertaining
>>28102The new scream movie wasn't complete dogshit. That said, the scariest part was Courtney Cox's plastic surgery
No.28132
>>28103(minor spoiler video)
The teleplay is better than the film.
No.28141
Hostel
Reminded me of Texas Chainsaw Massacre but in a Balkan village instead of a Texas highway stop
Pretty bland and genre-y
No.28229
Just finished the 1949 Battle of Stalingrad movies, not all that great really. There are some really kino shots and sequences, but pretty much all the acting is not good, a lot of the battle scenes are really sterile and uninspired. Also because it's trying to be more of an overview semi-documentary rather than the stories of individual soldiers/civilians, there are a lot of sequences of just a couple of people (mostly Stalin) sitting around talking, thinking, looking at maps etc. and for the same reasons it does tend a little to the 'great man' narrative.
No.28230
>>28218which scene, i don't remember
>>28150it's so over
>>28141that was such a fucked up movie
No.28239
>>28230If you mean the:
>idealistic as hellbit, then it is because the movie has brilliant takes such as:
>a part of the bourgeoisie is good and cares about the poor, actually, to the point they would go against their class interest and almost bankrupt themselves>fucking propaganda by the deed (and its supposed immutability)>trying to change the system by taking individual level actions, not structural onesBut if you mean the:
>reactionaries getting btfopart, then i'm referring to anything related to the league of shadows, given their plan was just endless reaction.
No.28242
>>28241> I honestly can't tell if it makes any senseNo the movie makes no sense , gravity and light would also move backwards. In backwards time mode you couldn't see shit because all the photons would be flying back into lamps and into the sun. And you'd be pinned against the sealing the moment the time reversal point activates, and if you left the time reversal room, you'd be flung into space, unless you put on non-time reversed ankle weights with greater mass then your body-weight. The people moving backwards in time would also appear as dark silhouettes to time-forward people. Time reversed people would have overheating problems, because when heat flows backwards any environment that is colder than your body temperature would cause heat to flow into your body. They would need to carry a non-time reversed heat-source to cool them self off.
There are other questions like what happens to chemical reactions that contain both forward and backward moving elements.
Information is also bound to entropy and hence the forward motion of time, i honestly don't know where to begin figuring out what happens with interactions that involved reversed flow information. If you are time-reversed and you'd try to re-read a non-time reverse book, you might unread it and forget what happens in the story.
We also have since found out that physics isn't entirely time symmetrical, so this can't work, but that is a minor gripe at this point.
The movie is still a fun thought experiment, just don't think too much about the details.
No.28245
Just watched AK47
Nice flick, but with a good eye one can shed a tear for all the intromision the capitalist culture puts its grip in it.
>Officer in charge praises K as an example of "divine force"
>A good old demonization of an NKVD officer who is searching for contrarrevolutionaries who are ghosts -although normal considering a comparisson with the liberal world-
Great movie nontheless
No.28251
>>28245Isn't that movie basically Russian nationalist propaganda
No.28256
>>28251I would accuse the one saying that of being a fucking liberal.
It has the defect of saying not saying Soviet Union or by being too soft on gommunism (for a liberal), maybe it gets accused of it for that.
No.28260
>>28256Stop misusing “liberal”. Patriotism is very liberal. It also has a pointless romantic subplot, too
No.28261
>>28260Patriotism can be many things.
Liberal
No.28265
am i crazy or was there some buzz a few years about catherine zeta jones doing chicaog again, near the oscars?
the movie came out in 2002 but i swear there was hype going around 2013-2017 for some reason that i can't find
No.28271
just watched Nope. different sense of horror. would not watch again only because i am disturbed by the digestion scene
No.28352
>>28271i didn’t think it was horror at all
just an action flick with comedic and gory bits in it, just like every “horror” movie released in the past few decades
No.28567
https://piped.kavin.rocks/watch?v=Ax_q6vp5FqUwatching this made me realize how awful the rolling stones' music is
No.28657
>>28352It's pretty effective at delivering its message that the animal kingdom can't be absorbed into The Spectacle and attempts at doing so will end in disaster
No.28760
>>27245Old news by this point I know, But I've got through 3 episodes so far and I've just given up. The decision to essentially tell 2 stories at once just makes the pacing of both stories feel interminably slow. The character development of young Jade and Billie (nice Billie Eilish reference there guys, very subtle) somehow manages to be both boring and rushed, and they both come across as absolute twats. Also, who gets into two fights on their first day of school and doesn't get expelled, or at least excluded? The whole bullying thing is so fucking played out now that it was just painful to watch.
As for the "present day" storyline with adult Jade, I still don't know what the plot is supposed to be. So far we know she's a researcher, and that Umbrella is after her. Why? Why is she researching the zombies, and why is Umbrella after her? We don't yet know. All we know is that she's still trying to get back to her family at the University place. Okay, great. But if that was the plot, they'd have spent more time setting it up and explaining exactly what it was. Instead, half the time it's just her running away from Umbrella goons, the leader of which just got killed. Where's the plot, guys?
And everyone says "why didn't they stick closer to the games?" as if that would somehow have made this any better. It would by virtue of giving the show a plotline and forcing it to stick to one story, but that wouldn't have saved the dialogue or even the overall quiality of the show; it would still just be an adaption, after all. What would have made this show better is if it were just a different show. The Resident Evil films didn't really stick to the games at all, but they still have fans. I'll watch them if they're on.
So yeah, I'm cutting my losses and giving up. Instead, I've just started watching Game of Thrones from the beginning, and the very first scene of the very first episode does a better job of explaining the story than Resident Evil does in three full episodes. That's good writing.
No.28788
>>28768Cringey pointless made for TV movie that’s a product of the paranoia of its time
Just watch its short film version
No.28791
>>28768It wasn't a mistake it was a crime
No.28822
[ Not a film I just watched, but this thread is best ]
https://web.archive.org/web/20200528163305/https://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/lists/50-films-to-see-by-15I found a list of 'top 50 films to watch before 15 years old' and I'm surprised to see
Hunt for the Wilderpeople on there. It's a great fun film, but surprising to see on that list. Maybe I'm sheltered but it seems a solid 13+ by normal society standards.
No.28908
>>28858You mean Alunya resembles her, the latter is older than Alunya by some years.
No.29066
>>29049>Movie about a virus that gets out of control because of an incompetent government that doesn't take the necessary measures to stop it sounds more like america tbh
No.29202
>>24481revenge fantasy with the girlies, el classico 2022
very colourful
if there are any non zoomers, yes this his how e talk
not really a little bit No.29212
>>29202>El clasico 2022Slowly but surely, la tortuga gana la carrera
Also Snatch is one hell of a movie
No.29228
>>29212It was pretty funny, It was so good that it "inspired" some of its plot into a bollywood movie
I hated that rich guy tho, He was so creepy with the pig feeding,
No.29394
>>29393i honestly don't get the cellphone argument
sure, horror movies a little can be ruined by them, but other movies too?
No.29395
>>29394People looking at their phones just isn't very cinematic at all
No.29446
>>29395true, especially information conveyed
i haven't seen many good implementations of text messages or digital stuff
the last one I remember is Ms.Marvel because it was used creatively, bubbly, and colorfully on the walls and streets, much like the character and fit well
No.29481
>>28768This was pretty much torture porn.
No.30105
>>30104What part of “films you just watched” a 4 word premise confused you
No.30142
>>30105im sorry, but do you know how i could catch this
No.30163
>>29389>Also, how the fuck did he survive that stabbing at the end?who says he did?
No.30169
>>30163Sure, he may or may not have died later. But how was he still capable of competently driving away from the parking lot, despite having had a knife struck in this stomach and bleeding profusely?
No.30206
>>30169Autism is powerful.
No.30214
>>30147Did the t-34 say "it's t-34ing time" begore t-34ing all over those nazis?
No.30624
>>25083I finally saw EEAAO a little while back after being repeatedly bugged by my friends to watch it and was disappointed. It felt like if The Matrix had been produced by le quirky high school theater kids.
No.30626
>>30617?
movies are still like that
also i liked the message in this one about rats, it was sweet
No.30632
>>30617Kind of comparing apples and oranges friendo. They made fucktons of dogshit movies in the past, you've just never heard of them.
No.30633
>>24878I was not expecting *that* scene
you know the one No.30700
Just watched Banshees of Inisherrin, absolutely beautiful film, hilarious and tragic. Truly is a shame that the Irish weren't able to stay united and kick perfidious albion off their island.
No.30762
>>30657I enjoyed this, and the paramedic was hot
No.30771
So, I've started watching Antz, you know, the one that came out the same time as Bug's Life.
I had a bad impression of it as a kid, because the ants aren't particularly cute and the only part I remembered was the war on the termite colony, which I thought was terrifying.
Anyway, I've started watching and this is literally Italian fascism with cheerful music. I mean I assume it's shallow comedy rather than intentional satire but the opening feels like an analogy of worker trauma under capitalism.
No.30772
>>30771Alright so continuing on there's been an all-out race-class riot in the beer hall after a based class-traitor defends an uppity worker from getting beaten.
No.30800
>>27512>films himself getting run over>films himself running people over (30:10)ahh, the duality of man
There's definitely an effort to highlight the hectic business of the town center, but I can't help but feel it's a little bit lost on me who chuckles and walks down a city street.
>live child birthI half expected them not to show it. American media has really ruined my expectations…
No.30803
Is the movie All Quiet On The Western Front good? I won't read any earlier posts here for sake of spoilers.
No.30817
>>30803It's good, I prefer the 1930 version but if you really don't like watching old movies the 2022 version is a fine adaptation too.
No.30891
I'm watching Shin Godzilla and this whole bureaucracy thing has me worried
I feel like it's a valid critique of our system, how would a communist one bypass it or make it better?
No.30892
>>30803if you come expecting the book in motion it will disappoint you, they cut out the leave, injured leave, himelstoss, and such and such, and changed a few things. on it's own, it's an alright movie, rather than lightly melancholic like the book, its more sombre and tense, one thing i do not like about the movie is around the ending which sucks because of one or two plot points i wont spoil.
No.30893
>>30891A communist system would aid and welcome comrade Gojira.
No.30894
>>30893i've not watched the movie till the end, is gojira sentient?
also i'm talking about the bureaucracy that people often label as a communist only problem, even though this is apparent in capitalist ones too
Also I was worried it might be a rightoid message but this is made by the same guy who made evangelion, so pretty sure it's a left-wing critique
No.30896
>>30894It was just a joke really. It depends on the incarnation, Shin is basically just an animal acting on instinct, but it is clearly evolving, so who knows. In other incarnations he's clearly capable of planning, strategy, self-recognition, empathy, vengefulness, even dance. I'd say he's probably primate-tier.
No.30900
>>30896his name is SHIN?? i thought it translated to "new godzilla"
have you seen shin ultraman, is it better?
No.31010
>>31009it also had giantess fanservice
No.31064
>>31060demons aren't literal because they don't exist
No.31065
>>31063North Korea Freeze tag moment
No.31067
>>31065the movies is also about how awful it is when everything is hyper-commodified and what ever other social media effect is where everyone talks about everything like a psychologoist and is really mean to each other
Also Todd & Aaron from Mega 64 multiple cameos, it's really funny
No.31070
>>31064Demons are literal in a fictional story about literal demons.
No.31078
dropped tenet about a third of the way through
holy shit my patience for action thrillers with grey palettes has gone through the floor sometime recently
No.31081
Wakanda Forever had way too much crying
No.31091
A mix of live action and adult animation with a confrontational, polemical Black Nationalist message.
It starts off before anything else with a grotesque sambo cartoon caricature standing in front of a still photo of a lamplit street at night. The cartoon stares at the viewer for a short while before uttering "fuck you". Another sambo jumps out from behind it to tell a cynical joke to the viewer about how much of "you white folks" jumped off of the Golden Gate Bridge, and how of 1 of only 2 of the black people that did, they were pushed. It laughs bitterly and walks off with its friend. This is pretty obviously meant to be a confrontation between 2 apparent opposites in American society, with the dynamic between depicted and audience highlighting it very awkwardly via cinematic form. Also, the joke hints at a percieved difference in deaths between white and black, white people dying of ennui and black people dying of violence, showing starkly different social or psychological conditions between the 2.
A side-profile of Scatman Crothers singing "I'm a uyghur man" while the title credits roll comes after that, after which the live-action story kicks off in a rural Gullah-esque community in the South centering around a prison break plan. While the prisoners wait on their friends to break them out, one of them starts telling a story, which starts the animated story which takes up most of the runtime.
Interspersed are animation shorts centering around a curvy, tall blonde white woman symbolically representing America seducing a black sambo character before either killing or maiming it.
The whole movie is a fever dream adventure through a cartoonishly racial worldview that never lingers long enough where it has to actually say anything beyond pushing racism as a universal constant, is very dated and confused in its social polemic to the point where it could be the complete opposite of subversive, although at least not taking too much of your time, with a quick pace and short runtime, just under an hour and a half, if anyone ever decides to watch through it. Which includes me, unfortunately.
No.31101
I watched Black Panther 2 the other night, someone had a ticket they weren't able to use so gave it to me. It's pretty shit even for a marvel movie, I was bored out of my skull for most of it. But they were fairly honest about modern France and the US's imperialist/colonialist designs on Africa, which is rare to see in a product for general audiences.
No.31113
>>27022I watched Thor: Love and Thunder yesterday, and I thought it was alright. A lot of people seemed to be saying it was somehow worse than the other Marvel films because it was "too comedic" or not serious enough, which I actually disagree with.
They are all action films with comedy awkwardly and sometimes inappropriately shoved it, whereas this felt like a comedy with some action and some drama, and I think it mixed those elements far better that most other Marvel capeshit does. There were no moments where the dramatic tension was undercut for the sake of a stupid Whedon-esque 4th wall-breaking gag, which was a huge improvement.
No.31116
>>31101The film literally goes out of it's way to get you to feel Chadwick Boseman's absence, his charisma is most of what made that first movie watchable. Without someone equally charismatic to replace him the film becomes a boring slog like you say.
No.31124
>>31113I thought the costumes looked like shit, like plastic.
No.31130
The Banshees of Inisherin was great, however somewhat ruined by the boomers laughing loudly in the theatre
No.31213
I saw Pig, starring Nicholas Cage, yesterday. Best film I have seen in a long, long while. You think it's going to be a film where a dishevelled Cage hobbles around killing people to find his pig, like a cross between John Wick and Hobo With A Shotgun, but it ends up being a quiet, contemplative meditation upon the nature of grief. Only real criticism I have of it is that the dialogue is very quiet in places. Only 1hr30 long though, and every scene counts. Watch it, if you haven't already.
>>31124Yeah, looking back they kind of did. I didn't really notice it at the time though, so it never bothered me when I first watched it. I'm probably not going to re-watch it either, so I guess it doesn't matter!
No.31365
I'm watching the 1954 version of 20,000 leagues under the Sea on my phone at the moment.
No.31447
>>26998>>27006Just watched The Northman. If you're some kind of neo-Nazi who jerks off to vikings, I have no idea why you would actually like The Northman. The Norse pagans are treated as the most vile, brutish savages imaginable. Absolutely no attempt is made to romanticize the Norse, and in fact it's the opposite. They're simple-minded and casually violent savages enacting bloody rituals to dark gods between orgies of violence, propped up by innumerable captive slaves kidnapped from their frequent raids in mainland Europe. Iceland, where most of this movie takes place, might as well be a chunk of frozen Hell that bubbled up from the darkest abyss of the ocean. The movie is set in the twilight years of this culture, Scandinavia is going to start to Christianize in about a century, and the movie's attitude honestly seems to be "rest in piss, you won't be missed, the Church can't come soon enough".
No.31487
The Truman Show was good. I wasn't expecting magic from a Hollywood semi-comedy film, but within that realm it exceeded expectations. I did get a feeling that it could easily have been a psychological thriller with the same script, and apparently the spec script was more like one.
I wonder which themes are intentional, some obvious ones include satire of the media spectacle, but potential themes lying there are defiance of the Abrahamic God or of utopianism. Of course, it has already been analyzed through those lenses and more. There is definitely a similarity to Network (1976) with the exploitative and extreme television programming.
Interestingly, it came out the year before The Matrix, and a reviewer noted it came out the year before the Big Brother reality franchise started.
No.31488
>>31447>If you're some kind of neo-Nazi who jerks off to vikings, I have no idea why you would actually like The Northman.No brwn ppl.
No.31494
>>31488There's no brown people in a movie that treats the culture its depicting as the most vile, bloody and brutish savagery imaginable.
No.31500
>>31494Reactionaries love vile savagery though.
No.31557
New Avatar was about what I expected, Cameron hasn't lost his touch for directing action
No.31671
Finally got around to watching Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless mind last night, and it was great. Wonderful cinematography, strong performances by both the main and supporting cast, and the writing and premise are fantastic. Technically a sci-fi picture too, and in a way it's the best handling of sci-fi elements that I've seen in a long time due to it simply providing a basis for the story to happen (and giving an excuse for tons of visuals and special effects otherwise alien to quirky rom-com dramas).
The film follows the story of a man named Joel, played by an unusually sombre Jim Carrey, who meets a colourful stranger named Clementine, played by Kate Winslet. Finding out that, after a breakup, Clementine has had Joel erased from his memory, he endeavours to do the same - only to realise partway through the process that actually, the memories are worth keeping. Unable to tell the technicians (played by Mark Ruffalo, Elijah Wood, Kirsten Dunst, and Tom Wilkinson) that he has changed his mind, he begins desperately leading Clementine through his past in a bid to keep her from disappearing completely.
Despite the tumult of the story, there is far more levity than I was expecting, juxtaposing nicely with the bitter moments and helping to make the relationship(s) seem more realistic. There are also moments where Carrey's comedic leanings are allowed to come through; they aren't so distracting as to take away from the film, in fact working quite well, but if you don't like Carrey's comedic roles, you might just find these moments annoying.
One point of contention is the fact that Clementine plays somewhat into the manic pixie dream girl trope, being impulsive, completely emotionally open even upon their first meeting, and coming on to Joel tremendously fast at the start of the film. Joel for his part is emotionally closed-off, seemingly incapable of speaking his mind, and is somewhat incomplete as a person - very much the opposite of Clementine.
Due to the memory-hopping of the film mixing scenes from the beginning, middle and end of their relationship, we get to see the downsides of this trope as it would exist in real-life, and are made to empathise with both characters.
Ultimately this is a film with relatable characters and a touching, sometimes heartbreaking, sometimes heartwarming story, which is perhaps why people still talk about it today.
I could go on, but I don't think you need to hear an anon talk about a film which came out close to 19 years ago. At least I can now say that there's a rom-com I like!
No.31674
>>28886I think people put too much weight into Fletcher's monologue near the end
Neiman is just as pathological as Fletcher
He is a servile sort of narcissist who's desperately looking for a "deserving" father figure to affirm what he sees as his craft and tries to find it in the demanding though mediocre and academic Fletcher
They both end up psychologically feeding into each other, turning into a vortex that consumes them both
No.31735
>>31693Yeah maybe it warrants its own thread, lots of discussion about it given that it's topical and more topical than they probably could have expected.
No.31788
>>31770Peterson will hate this movie, because at the end Pinocchio doesn't become a boy, he becomes an adult.
No.31795
>>31693> While I do recognize and agree its politics are rather revolutionarywot
No.31822
>>31783hank mccoy doesn't deserve this! (he also played kind of an incel in that)
No.31991
>>31770I watched this movie with my family on Christmas. Bad idea, it's a real tear jerker. I probably would have more to say if I had read or watched any other version of Pinocchio beforehand lol.
>Del Toro sets this version of Pinocchio in [spoiler]fascist Italy[/spoiler] and makes an overtly [spoiler]anti-fascist[/spoiler] filmFrom what I know about del Toro, he
really loves setting his films in [spoiler]Fascistic Catholic countries during World War II. Although he has some spiritual beliefs of his own and Catholicism influences his work, I know he hates the Catholic church with a passion (due to his Catholic family being strict and how the Church collaborated with fascists), which is why he often criticizes it.[/spoiler]
But I don't know why anything Peterson has to say is relevant in any way. If he publicly shat on this film I missed it, sadly.
No.31993
>>31991Peterson has a big thing for Pinocchio in general, specifically because of the lesson. He cares about it so much he incorporates it into his Jungian psychology as a major element. He wouldn't like this movie because it defies the normal moral lessons quite explicitly.
>From what I know about del Toro, he really loves setting his films inI believe his family fled Francoist Spain before his birth in Mexico.
No.31999
>>31991Fuck me, I forgot that you spoiler shit with double asterisks on here. Whatever>>31993>Peterson has a big thing for Pinocchio in general, specifically because of the lessonI see, that's a weird think to fixate on.
>I believe his family fled Francoist Spain before his birth in Mexico.I didn't know that, now his work makes way more sense.
No.32012
I liked it. I think it does it a good job, of course, of making fun of the hypocrisies of bourgeois culture. Like when the Russian woman is forcing the staff to "have fun" and not being capable of understanding their class position. I thought the stuff with the Marxist (who goes out of his way to say he's not a communist???) captain a bit ham-fisted and too long. It just wasn't that interesting listening to the random quotes and kind of preachy. Maybe it's more appealing if you aren't familiar with this stuff already. And not blaming billionaires personally (they are after all simply agents of capital, determined by their class position, and have a good heart, this is said explicitly) feels like a bit lame when you consider the high-culture that financed this film it being displayed in the Palme d'Or.
spoilers
I really like after they get stranded on the isle. Very materialism-pilled. The cleaning lady ascends to be the boss and reproduces a form of domination because she's the only one capable of developing and using the means of production (fire and fishing poles). The actual ending I think is great, it's revealed they're really just on a resort isle, the cleaning lady is about to bash in a bougie bitch's head (she's been sleeping/raping her model bf) and the bougie bitch says something like "I can help you, I can give you a job, you can be my assistant". A great tragedy, the boug's horizons are so limited that their idea of "help" is to make someone a wage slave. And what's the woman going to do? Bashing the bougies head in won't solve anything, she'll just end up a murderer and get arrested. She's forced, rationally, to accept this degrading offer of "help" because that's the way things are.
No.32018
Deadpool 2: the existential horror of a 2 hour+ movie that's always inexorably crawling towards the plot points and devices that it spends the entire time mocking in some attempt at self-awareness
No.32073
Just rewatched Casino in its entirety. Boring piece of shit, but the pay-off at the ending was worth it.
No.32087
>>32073Montage with House of the rising sun and Joe Pesci getting whacked is always worth it.
>>31991Great stop motion movie. Only behind Mad God
No.32102
>>32095unfortunately the movie basically gives the message of 'yeah fight club was cool lmao'
No.32176
Just watched this shit. Was a tolerable enough slice of life film throughout the long as runtime. Plot = non-existant. The narration that randomly cuts in like 3 times was lazy and stupid. The main character was kind of intolerably Mary Sue.
BUT WORST OF ALL was that fucking ending. Holy shit. I actually turned it off. I swear to god Quentin Tarantino just needs his violence against women quota for his movies. Is this supposed to be a revenge porn against the Manson family like Django was for slave owners and Inglorious Bastards for Nazis? Just why?
I swear to god next film, he's going to buy the rights to Mark Wahlberg's 9/11 fantasies.
Lol I was looking up the ending on twitter to see what people thought and it seems everyone including WaPo were doing articles like these:
How true to life is the ‘Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’ ending?https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2019/07/29/how-true-life-is-once-upon-time-hollywood-ending/And the rest of the responses were slobbering over it. I swear to god everyone in America is an absolute retard.
No.32177
>>32176>Just why?Probably because Tarantiono was a big fan of Sharon since he was a child. Probably should have googled this shit it's not like it's a state secret or something.
> just needs his violence against women quota for his moviesYou mean against the one who in real life continuously stabbed pregnant Sharon who begged her to spare her child? Yeah, i guess.
No.32178
>>32176>>32177We need to have a discussion about woman-on-woman crime.
No.32179
>>32177>Probably because Tarantiono was a big fan of Sharon since he was a child. Probably should have googled this shit it's not like it's a state secret or something.How would I have googled a fact I didn't know unless I wanted to read every stupid interview he did on the movie I didn't like in the first place. Still it's no explanation. I guess it's just confirming what I already said, which is that the Brad Pitt character was so self-insert, Mary Sue, that it had me gagging throughout the entire movie. The DiCaprio part was entertaining enough I guess. Also all the Sharon Tate parts were so shoehorned into the movie it was ridiculous. I saw trailers for it before and I had no clue it even involved the Manson/Tate thing.
>You mean against the one who in real life continuously stabbed pregnant Sharon who begged her to spare her child? Yeah, i guess.Don't really care. Definitely don't care to see some graphic revenge porn about them.
Like I said, I guess that's his thing now, doing graphic revenge porn fantasy for every real world villain. I hope he does the Mark Wahlberg 9/11 story. Will be some satisfying real auter kino shit. 🤮🤮🤮
No.32181
>>32179>Brad Pitt character was so self-insert, Mary Suehow was it a self-insert if tarantino was never a stunt double, you mean a self-insert for his ideas? I thought the movie was better than inglorious bastards but more for the vibes than anything else
No.32185
>>31488Lol 1488
>>31494The thing is
Everything depicted in the Northman is actually based to the psychotic atheist fashoids of the modern day, and arguably all fashoids to ever exists
Fascists worship violence, murder, cruelty, and domination of the “weak”, the only gods they would worship are brutal and cruel, this depiction of the Norse is likely how white nationalists think white people should live
No.32186
>>32185Note I am not saying the creator of the work has these beliefs, just that to actual fascists these factors up the appeal, they are blatantly hypocritical as well, they would view it as proofs of subhuman savagery if it was a non-European culture
No.32192
>>32179>How would I have googled a fact I didn't knowYou could've started with "Why Tarantino made this movie" google search and take it from there. 5-10 minutes spent would have brought you the result. Guess reading is ain't for everybody.
I don't think you understand what "self insert" is.
>Don't really care.Well it is a conincidence that no one cares about the fact that you don't care either. Go fuck yourself, troll.
No.32193
>>32192Quentin I don't care about your personal feelings for some B movie actress from half a century ago.
>Well it is a conincidence that no one cares about the fact that you don't care either. Go fuck yourself, troll.Troll? Who am I trolling Quentin fans? I just gave my opinions on a moving you fucking faggot.
>>32181It's Mary Sue like Twilight or any bottom tier garbage like that. There's never any stakes to the character. It's just every situation he's in he's the cool guy that just wins immediately that everyone loves and thinks is cool(and then gets to save I guess Quentin's high school crush)
No.32194
>>32193Most of all, if the movie was all about Quentin's Mary Sue stopping the Manson murders, the movie should've actually been about that instead. Maybe have some more scenes with the Manson family beyond that one scene where Brad Pitt goes to the ranch where nothing happens(except some more stupid Mary Sue torture flick action.)
No.32199
>>32198>failsonrude, he turned out ok in the end
No.32206
>>32176Tarantino is a golden example of why "cinephiles" shouldn't make movies
You can religiously frequent cinemas and video stores and be as much of a scholar of genres as you want, it won't make you an artist
No.32214
Uncut Gems was a bleak but accurate portrait of the US petty-booj after the Great Recession
No.32365
The Northman was mid. Kind of like a Nordic saga with the skeleton of a noir. Probably fascistic.
No.32366
>>32365Oh, and I feel like the awful dark-lit cinematography burned itself into my retinas or something.
No.32400
>>28788I know this is old now, but I have to call it out.
>Threads wasn't based on a short film>If it was, this wouldn't be it>thinks that this is less cringe than Threads (a no-effort campaign ad for Lyndon Johnson, a man famous for being peaceful)>Thinks that the paranoia of the time was unjustifiedliterally what the fuck are you talking about?
No.32401
>>32400 (me)
I should point out too that the bit about Johnson was sarcasm
No.32457
>>32454Get the 2 part Soderberg directed Che biopic if you liked this. 4 hours of intense atmosphere.
No.32644
The Killing (1956), one of the inspirations of Reservoir Dogs - spoilers:
Good film, the jumping between timescales and narration seemed unnecessary and smells of book adaptation, and some bits are slow, although overall definitely worth the watch. HOLY SHIT, GEORGE SOMEHOW WENT FROM PATHETIC SIMP TO S-TIER BAD ASS IN ONE MINUTE FLAT. Coming in with a pistol blasting to cut his punchline short, then, face filled with shotgun, goes home and kills his bitch wife with no warning when she doesn't call an ambulance for him. that fucking parrot lol
No.32646
>>32180The 10 second scene of a Jew emptying an entire magazine into Hitler's face as they massacre the entire core of the Nazi regime wasn't rewarding enough?
>>32095It gets a bad wrap because le edgy taxi driver literally me bait, but it's a solid satire of (among other things) alienating corporate/capitalism life and violent middle-class reaction to it, and despite the obvious restrictions of successful Hollywood (especially product placement), the movie was solid.
Ending is
based and Pol Pot pilled No.32665
>>32180>uncircumcised I don’t think that means what you think it means
No.32706
>>32645i didn't need to see that
No.32770
Just watched Network (1976) and have to say it was pretty damn funny found myself actually chuckling which is rare because i never really get into movies like that. plus its a critique of mass media a la Debord-lite so fully recommend it 8/10
No.32900
I wasn't sure whether to post this here or in the other film thread
>>1660 but what is a good, enjoyable film to watch that is
-not too terrible of politics
-not depressing
-not too disturbing
light-hearted or dramatic but upbeat is okay
No.32941
>>32900Come and See (1985)
No.32942
>>32941>Come and See>not depressing>not disturbingis this bait
No.32954
Just saw The Wind that Shakes the Barley and it was pretty good. Not great, but pretty good. Lots of scenes of imperialists getting wacked, pro IRA, pro socialist ireland.
No.32982
>>32939>no civil liberties for the fascists and serf owners tho!>sobsis this movie boomer propaganda?
No.33009
>>32939fuck the king
granny should have gone for the throat
No.33130
>>32939based babushka making dumbfuck monarchist cry
No.33135
>>32939She dropped truth bombs so hard that those people are now probably added to Victims of Communism list.
No.33150
Crimes of the Future was decent
Shame it bombed at the box office but they could have spent some of that budget on better set design and costumes IMO
No.33151
>>33129You can tell it will be shit just from the poster
No.33152
>>33129Definitely going to be shit.
It's just Hasbro (owner of WotC) trying to bring in a bunch of new consumers to jump on their 6e
mobile game "integrated virtual table top" after everyone who actually knows what a TTRPG is bails out for alternative systems.
No.33155
>>33152>after everyone who actually knows what a TTRPG is bails out for alternative systemsTbf D&D has
always been a hot mess and treated as a paving stone to find better games later.
No.33256
Airplane! is still really good
No.33306
I just recently watched the first Matrix. A lot better than I expected.
No.33350
>>33262lol yeah, that's a good'un
No.33351
>>33306Watch the Animatrix next, the Second Renaissance is kino and Kid's Story and Detective Story are also good.
No.33472
Watched Jesse Eisenberg's directorial debut with A24 forgot the name. It was shit.
No.33710
Bodies Bodies Bodies has a hilarious ending, although its predictability kind of dampened it
Watched it because Conner O'Malley is in it, and he did not disappoint
No.33726
>>33234On the one hand it is insane that this movie can exist, on the other hand it isn't surprising at all, when you consider how many people love movies like Falling Down for all the wrong reasons.
No.33883
>>33882Aren't things already shitty?
Opinions aside, any predictions on what this will affect? The 2007/2008 strike changed Breaking Bad with a certain character surviving instead
https://www.avclub.com/the-writers-strike-of-2007-08-changed-breaking-bad-for-1798239848 No.33886
>>33882and you thought shit was badly written
now No.34001
I just realized that in Pirate of the Caribbean, the protagonist literally admits he's a rapist (not cryptically or anything, actually using the word "rape") very early on and he's still the good guy.
But yeah if you didn't steal the film then don't pretend you're watching it properly.
No.34006
>>34001Jack Sparrow or Wiliam Turner? The movie has two protagonists. And during what scene?
If it wasn't a kids movie I wouldn't even be mad. Pirates were rapists. Historical fact.
No.34010
>>34006>Pirates were rapists. Historical fact.Uh oh somebody fell for the Royal Navy propaganda. Pirates were violent to be sure, but on the whole were more civil than the colonial forces they fought (and were often defectors from), were more politically progressive, and indeed more diverse in ethnicity and gender than even the most woke pirate media would have you believe.
>Jack Sparrow or Wiliam Turner? It's Sparrow, and he's using the stock phrase "rape, pillage, and plunder" which IIRC in context is him sarcastically riffing on the pirate stereotype. He's also definitely not the protagonist, in the first movie, more like a mentor or Han Solo guy. Pirate flag anon might have a bit of 'tism.
No.34011
>>34006>Pirates were rapistt. Historic Fact. Oh no better not mention the Pirate Republic of Nassau and the Pirate Code. Which was the Code of Ethics between Pirate crews in how they would elect their leaders on the ship to sharing all the plundered Booty Equally amongst themselves. A lot of the Pirates were like the Anon here mentions
>>34010 that they were usually Ex-Sailors or Merchants who were tired of getting fucked over by Inequality on the ships.
No.34027
>>34010"rape" doesn't necessarily mean sexual assault. if by "rape, pillage, and plunder" he's obviously describing theft.
No.34052
>>32942Okay then, Martyrs 2008
No.34053
>>34051So what is it about?
No.34054
>>34053It starts as the story of a little girl that got kidnapped and held in a dungeon in which she was horribly tortured for a long time and she escapes from there. But then once she grows up she finds the people who did it to her and goes back to kill them. Anyway, it turns out they were part of a weird cult that believed that by inflicting extreme suffering on people for a very long time that might in some rare cases force them into a state of spiritual transcendence (martyrdom) which enabled them to see the afterlife if they suffered a lot until the very end. And the purpose of their cult is to discover that knowledge. This guy explains it pretty well if you actually want to know about the movie without watching it:
https://youtu.be/7xC-QXApqko No.34057
>>34051Serbian Film and Human Centipede aren't even comparable. they're just shitty shock movies. Martyrs is just a legitimately good (and difficult to watch) film.
if you want more I'd recommend checking out other films in the New French Extremity genre. Inside (À l'intérieur) (2007) is one of my favorite films of all time. In My Skin (2002) is also really good although I haven't seen that one in a minute.
No.34058
>>34057I watched Martyrs a while ago and it didn't really impress me that much. It was standard shock schlock, too.
No.34059
>>34058maybe I need to rewatch it because it's another thing that I haven't seen in a few years, but I remember it being way more of an actual film than Serbian Film or Human Centipede. I mean honestly Human Centipede in particular is just total garbage.
as far as worthless shock shlock goes I've always liked the August Underground series, but there are also a few of that type of movie that I haven't seen yet
No.34067
>>33129>>33152It was better written that I thought. Such a shame that the 'Maybe the real treasure were the friends we made along the way' line wasn't dropped when the plot is basically it.
No.34071
New Ari Aster was disappointing
Feels like he's still in film school
No.34072
I watched A Generation (1955)
it was bretty gud and marxist-pilled. Would rec.
No.34073
>>34071A few moments were hilarious though
A battered Joaquin Phoenix mumbling and crying while some angsty suburban princess screeches at him for no discernible reason
No.34077
>>34073wtf is beau is afraid, can you run me down?
i am afraid of beau is afraid
No.34081
Who watched Suzume and thought it was kinda dumb?
No.34082
>>34081It was boring because it feels like Makoto Shinkai can only make the same movie over and over again.
No.34085
>>34077Three hour tragicomedy about a neurotic failson and his mother
No.34167
>>32095Can someone explain to me what 10 year anniversary edition means?
Because I just pirated it.
No.34170
>xi pilled chinaboo
>trust the plan
>damn these war movies and scifi are big, detailed and the production vales are awesome
>"a family dramedy about a mayoral working group that goes to the country to bring prosperity to the villagers"
>I will do my duty and watch this
>excruciating
>They are a threat to the rules based international order and must fall
>maybe I need to step outside my genre ghetto
No.34186
Recently watched this. Brutal movie.
https://youtu.be/DX1uyJUa1o8Also "Bitter Rice"
No.34488
>>34186Went ahead and watched this, damn everybody is in a worse place at the end.
Watched the Seventh Seal, pretty good, it even has a Looney Tunes esque scene where Death cuts down a tree a guy is sitting in to kill him.
No.34518
maybe the last movie from the last movie director, schrader's latest just didn't hit hard enough after first reformed and the card counter.
No.34627
You know it's a good film when the FBI investigate the director
It's a Wonderful Life
>guy wants to end it all jumping off a bridge
>someone else is drowning at the bottom
>makes the exact same jump to save them
I know he was drunk but come on.
No.34691
This is a long shot but google isn't helping. Anyone remember a movie set in ancient Rome in which a) the bad guys win in the end and b) at one point a stampede of cows with torches on their horns is seen marching through the night?
Thought it was one of the Spartacus movies, I do seem to recall gladiator scenes, but according to google, the bit about cows is something Hannibal did and I could be conflating two different movies
No.34692
>>34691The bit about cows would probably be about Hannibal and the Battle of Ager Falernus
No.34693
>>34691Is there a memorable scene other than the burning cows you remember?
I have vague recollections the Romans also used the Oxen thing, I think it was against the Macedonians post the Punic wars
No.34706
>extraction2 : another adventureous trip to the jungle
>elite educated pakistani ISI are good now
>criminal asiatic caucasians are current evil
>shot in NGO Georgia lol
>being a magic operator who recouperates in the garden between kill missions in the jungle is a rich and chill model lifestyle
>movie is a 2hr cutscene with shitty graphics made by the marvel brothers
No.34771
>>30891A communist system couldn't bypass it, it would be essentially the same, in the movie they did almost everything right and fast even with their limitations. Maybe with a communist system it would be worse since you wouldn't have camera crews in helicopters flying over the problem because they wouldn't be authorized to do so by the state, maybe it would be better because everything would works with councils taking decisions and feeding up intel to the top so the response would be faster and they wouldn't need the authorization of the prime minister to evacuate a targeted city or launch a military attack.
I don't feel this movie is a critic of our system, on the contrary it is a compliment to our capacity to organize. This movie shows that for all its problems, the bureaucracy of a solid state in face of a completely new and not intended problem eventually adapts and get things done. It's like an heroic tale, but a collectivist one.
No.34777
>>34771I’ve been meaning to watch this. Anno is based. Godzilla movies are fun. Win, win, right?
No.34810
>>34809how the same real estate business then take your car your source of income but expect you to pay off
what a cruel system.
No.34811
>>30891>>34771If Shin Godzilla is a critique of bureaucracy then it's a Space Whale Aesop because godzilla doesn't apply as an allegory to anything in the real world in this movie. Some people have interpreted it as being about climate change or polluting the seas, but that has no relevance to what godzilla actually is and does or how they stop it. Moreover, if the point was that kind of critique then they shouldn't have been able to beat godzilla (at least not as a single country), it should have just done the damage and left, leaving them wondering if/when it would be back.
The one guy being able to figure out what to do and finally get it done is such a lazy overdone trope and almost ruined the entire movie for me but definitely ruined anything more than schlock entertainment value I might have found in it.
>It's like an heroic tale, but a collectivist one.It wants to be but it really isn't. Anno is one of those "visionary" guys who thinks he is the special boy around whom the entire project revolves (and to be fair this is often the case for him), and he can't help but bring that Great Man attitude to the story. A genuinely communist version of the story where Gojira was properly thought out as a metaphor for capitalism could be great though.
No.34812
>>34811what is shin ultraman about then?
about ecology?
No.34879
>>34811>godzilla doesn't apply as an allegory to anything in the real world in this movie. not even Fukushima
No.34880
>>34811>Some people have interpreted it as being about climate change or polluting the seas, but that has no relevance to what godzilla actually is and does or how they stop it. Media literacy at an all time low
No.35141
first time I'd call something a lost modern classic - Virus (1980). It's a japanese international production with some familiar faces and extremely relevant to today. Get it while it's seeded on yts, subs are on subscene.
No.35143
>>34879>>34880Look, just because the original gojira was a clear allegory for the bombs doesn't mean the billion other godzillas mean anything. Does the 1998 burger godzilla represent something too? I went into Shin Godzilla expecting a climate allegory and I just don't see it. Loose parallels don't count. Unlike with climate change, the government was throwing everything they had at the problem. The whole focus of the story was how even with the whole machine doing its best it was barely able to do anything. It's a story about humanity's limits, not really about disregard for the consequences of our actions.
>FukushimaWe know how to respond to nuclear meltdowns. Fukushima was made worse by the government failing to respond effectively
when they could have, not that the problem was outside the scope of their powers to affect. It's really nothing like the outside-context problem of godzilla. Tacking on some ADR dialogue in the news montage about how the creature might be an animal mutated by radiation doesn't change what the story is fundamentally about.
No.35153
>>35143except in shin godzilla he's a manmade disaster and the government can deal with it in various ways but instead chooses bureaucratic delays instead because no one wants to be the fall guy for this disaster
a lot like Fukushima
No.35420
I hesitate to go see Oppenheimer with my physicist and anarchist dad, I'm a bit afraid there will be too much American propaganda and the movie will justify the glassing those hundreds of thousands people, can an anon tell me if it's worth it?
No.35448
I just caught the North American mass premiere of Oppenheimer, specifically the digital IMAX version (there was a cinema showing the 70mm version an hour's drive away but I didn't think it was worth it). The legal parts confused me but they were just meant to illustrate the personal aspects so I got what I was meant to get. Oppenheimer's relationship with Communism is a bit of a central aspect but it's kind of downplayed into just being something that a careerist exploits to get him purged as well as a side effect of an affair that he has.
>>35420There's a scene that explicitly juxtaposes American chauvinism with the Hiroshima bombing, so no, it doesn't justify them.
No.35450
Public service announcement: the advanced search options on the yts site allow sorting and refining searches for classic movies beyond your wildest whims.
>I feel like watching a japanese war movie from the 50s, yts. This feeling my last for 60 mins max
Here's 20 movies, sorted by imdb rating. Start a torrent and make coffee, it will probably be ready to stream when you are.
No.35460
>>35448Idk to me it comes out pretty clearly that Oppenheimer was highly sympathetic to communism but couldn’t state so openly due to a climate of repression
No.35465
>>35369 Older Disney was like that, they had a lot adult humor hidden in their movies that children wouldn't understand or think much about. It's part of why modern disney sucks, they don't take such risks and are too family friendly while unironically pushing far more toxic stochastic ideology down people's throats.
No.35468
Oppenheimer should have gone the barefoot gen route in its depiction of the bomb.
I wonder how much funding it got from the Pentagon.
No.35469
>>35468>movie about how a scientific genius is stifled by the government that he works for and unambiguously paints the bombings in a negative light is Pentagon propaganda because it doesn't do shameless atrocity porn like some cartoonAverage media literacy on here
No.35470
>>35469Does he really say 'I am become sex, the seeder of wombs' in a sex scene?
No.35472
>>35469movie is very anticommunist too
No.35474
>>35469If you make a movie about the nuclear bombings without 'atrocity porn' then you're whitewashing
No.35475
>>35470sex with the demon core
No.35477
I love the Oppenheimer scene where he says he disagrees with Marx's thesis that "ownership is theft" because even though Nolan probably intended that to be a sincere demonstration that he read capital and disagreed with it. The fact that that is not correct puts the scene in a better context, Oppenheimer lied to communist party members about a book he had not read, and in return they could not prove him wrong because they are as illiterate about the subject as he is, which is very very real.
Also, this low key makes the whole movie about opportunism, Oppenheimer was essentially the same type of opportunist as the CPUSA members, except his opportunism had an American bend to it, instead of the purely Russian ideological line of opportunism that the "communist" were. The fact that he thens goes onto help American imperialism, and then regrets it when the morality of the concencuences weights on him makes it even better
No.35478
>>35477LMAO i thought this post was a joke but the movie actually has a part meant to make people clutch their toothbrushes
No.35482
>>35475The demon core, which was part of the Manhattan Project, which the movie is about. Nice reference. You must watch a lot of top 10 facts YouTube videos to know about that. And then the "sex with" to tie it into a joke. Comedic genius right here.
No.35483
>>35477I’m sure he regretted it a whole lot more when the government ratfucked him for not being a truly psychotic warmonger ready to bomb the Russians on a whim lmao
No.35484
>>35472What the actual fuck have leftoids being smoking
Why do so many of you nighas have such retarded takes on the film?
How the fuck was the film anticommunist? Because they cut the scene of Oppenheimer giving Stalin a hand job? Half the film was literally about how disgusting and scummy the Red Scare truly was, the communists are the people who are fighting the hardest for worker’s rights, the government hates anyone that advocates for fucking trade unions, the President boasts about having the blood of innocents on his hands before calling Oppenheimer a pussy for feeling guilt, and pretty much every decent character either was currently or formerly a communist and everyone that chooses opportunism (Oppie) loses out in the end
No.35485
>Film where the most overtly sinister and threatening individual is the man said to have personally killed communists
>Entire film centers around the climate of fear induced by the US government and the way they strangled anyone that didn’t go along with warmongering and still tossed away half the ones who did once they outlived their usefulness
>Every commie is at least somewhat noble or sympathetic
>Half of Oppenheimer’s failure comes from rejecting the calls of the commies
>He still gets ratfucked anyway merely for knowing people who are communists
<Wow this movie sure is anti-communist!
No.35508
Saw dial of destiny because I didn't have to pay for tickets. The first 20 minutes were cool. The rest of the movie was bland and forgettable. Not as bad as Crystal Skull, just dull.
No.35522
>>35485Oppenheimer's issue isn't that it's "anti-communist", it's that it's just kind of a mediocre biopic that doesn't tell you anything that a few Wikipedia articles won't
It's still better than capeshit though, and if it gets cinemagoers to think seriously about the medium again, then I'm all for it
No.35524
>>35484>Christopher Nolan is a based anticapitalist>revolution will not be televised>it will come out on 35mm film in theaters near youBWOOOOOAAAAANGNolan can't write dialogue and Nolan doesn't understand emotion. It is impossible for his characters to feel anything unless the world or REALITY ITSELF is at stake.
<SOME GUY: Oppenheimer!, you are going to blow up the world<OPPENHEIMER (yelling through noise): I know, it is because my love for it is so immense<SOME GUY: Alright, but it will make me sad.<OPPENHEIMER (smirking): Oh no, my dear friend, you won't feel a thing. fuck Nolan and his shitty movies. name ONE good movie he has made. pro tip:
you can't No.35528
>>35526holy shit i needa get the exact same job and do the exact same thing
No.35590
>>29444sounds interesting gonna half to chekc it out anon can you elaborate on why it got delayed?
No.35622
Oppen might be one psyop, to either inure people to nuclear attack or to reverse psychologically persuade people that the government is genuinely infiltrated by judeocommunists.
No.35624
>>35622Dunkirk was beautifully timed.
"Brexit? Don't worry about that. Here's a stirring retelling of Our Finest Hour Brave Boys. Onward Great England and it's aristocracy."
No.35634
For a mostly visual medieval experience Alatriste The last Musketeer 2006 is pretty unbeatable. Every frame is a beautifully lit oil painting and the sword fighting is viciously real. A world where nothing exists outside the aristocracy and the soldiers.
No.35831
>>35830Exactly my experience. Many of my friends cried and shit. I simply don't get the hype, truly mediocre.
No.35832
Barbie is a glowop. I didnt watch it, only saw spillage from the mainstream media's advertising onto my eyeballs.
I thought the division of labor and class between the barbies, right down to the lumpen crazy barbie, was pretty fucked up. Nothing subversive in that piece of shit movie
No.35836
I'm gonna watch Barbie and then rewatch Oppenheimer cuz I need to catch some vibes that I didn't really get last time
No.35950
>>35830>>35831I mean for fucks sake it's a BARBIE movie, the most capitalist toy brand around based on a doll series that began in Nazi Germany, what do you expect from a burger hollywood interpretation of such a product, in the 2020s no less. It was cringeworthy and boring from the clips that I saw. The leading actress is talented, but she's been going from one feminist "movie" to another because of her ideological brainworms, and her acting suffers for it.
No.35952
>>35950>what do you expect from a burger hollywood interpretation of such a productmore sex jokes, actually
No.35954
>>35836Barbie was basically 2010s Tumblr distilled into a pseudo-subversive corporate advertisement for gated community white women, but some jokes made me smile or giggle and the actors really put in the effort
No.35955
watched the Truman show, it was pretty good. not great, but an enjoyable ride. carrey gives a good performance when he's not being wacky.
also saw stalker. was expecting something different, but liked what I got. very long, and really feels like a stage play than a movie. not very exciting, but I felt like it kept up the feeling of tension and mystery enough that I was kept engaged the entire time. it's on youtube so consider giving it a watch if you never have before.
No.36016
>>35955Truman show is basically the height of american pop culture in terms of unveiling the concept of ideology - which it has to do in literal terms
I like though that the setting is this 50s-esque americana, which is the illusion most yankees trail off to in their heads as "the good old days" and so demolishes the prison of that fixation
Stalker is severely overrated
Its interesting, but is it really "one of the best"?
I feel like it gets a pass because its "foreign" to westerners which automatically makes it "artistic"
No.36017
>>35624Nolan is literally hired by the anglosphere intelligence services to set the tone for status quo politics, which explains his kubrick-like sterility, where everyone feels intentional and cold. No warmth or spontanaety, as a vessel for the empire.
No.36018
>>24772The conflict in the batman was between terrorism or democracy, just like in the dark knight
Batman will never be a redeemable character except to the middle class scum who are always thirtsting for judge-dredd-esque vigilantes to kill shoplifters and vandals
No.36019
>>27241It has a supernatural quality also. Of the contingency of miracles. The shoe, and the unrecordability of the alien.
The domestication, or objectification of a creature by film - celluloid holds the soul in place.
Think of the horse seeing itself in reflection - it had a mysterious undertone to the whole thjng which was interesting.
In us too is the mirroring of the family - the haunted reflection. Jordan peele is clearly working out his spirituality in these works
No.36020
>>28241Tenet hangs on the premise that evil russian communists STILL want to destroy the world for no reason, and that the US government will literally suspend the laws of physics to keep the world safe, so be grateful.
No.36021
>>28453I actually loved mad god
It shows the madness of bio-logic in lieu of increasing cybernetic imaginations
How low can we go?
No.36024
>>34708In the end we have 2 options
Become a terrorist
Or get pussy
No.36040
>>36033I was gonna say 'get on If… 's level' of prescience, it ended in a triumphant school shooting in 1968, but I can't find the clip, everything on youtube when I search is just real school shooting related lol
ah ok I found it by searching 'ending' instead of shooting lol
No.36047
>>36016I think it's a film that anyone that loves movies should watch because it's a very particular experience. There's no fancy cuts, the most special special effect is a smoke machine, and the biggest stunt is a couple guys jumping into piles of chemicals. It's diametrically opposed to Marvel movies in a lot of ways, which while not necessarily making it good, at least makes it worth watching.
But ultimately it is just
three guys going on a nature hike for three hours and talking about the nature of humanity before they have to decide whether or not they're willing to face their true selves and finally deciding to just go home so I can understand how that's not everyone's cup of vodka.
But at least it is free, so.
No.36049
>>36047I think its just a movie thats been lodged into the recursive "film school" type of consciousness, instead of being put against "modern classics". This is the fallacy of all oldies though.
No.36050
>>36047> and talking about the nature of humanitystalker is about jeeeesuuuuus, there are way more fun soviet films than this one on the mosfilm channel too, but i think stalker is worth it just for the ending. really makes u think.
No.36052
>>36050>stalker is about jeeeesuuuuusI dunno about that. I guess journey to the room could be interpreted as a metaphor to coming to god or something like that, but I think that's kind of a stretch. The room really seems more like a genie than a christian entity. Maybe you could say that the Stalker himself has certain parallels to christ if you squinted hard enough.
>there are way more fun soviet films than this one on the mosfilm channel tooGypsies Are Found Near Heaven was actually really good imo. I wouldn't call it "fun" but it is a pretty good drama/tragedy. I have been meaning to look at some of the comedies, because I've never watched a Russian/Soviet comedy before.
No.36053
>>36052>Maybe you could say that the Stalker himself has certain parallels to christ if you squinted hard enough.the stalker has parallels to all prophets really, my theory is that it's specifically about jesus at the desert though, the reason why the stalker can't enter the room is the same jesus can't really ask for a million bucks while the devil is egging him on: it'd represent a fundamental lack of faith on his own god, if he were to beg god for a miracle it would not be granted regardless, since he would not be the son of god: the position as a prophet demands unyielding faith. the physicist can't bring himself to kill god, and the writer is there too.
No.36054
>>36052also i wish mosfilm had the animated soviet films. the AI upscale of snow queen looks dodgy as hell
No.36055
>>36052To me the myth of the narrative is the very idea of a mystery still alive in a godless world. The military guard the place, there is the ambiguous threat of the environment itself - but there is nothing, and that is the secret. Its about religion that way, in preserving meaning as such, by the denial of its nonsense.
But then the child is supernatural, and so the myth becomes real - was there really a power in that place all along? We can never know.
No.36058
>>36053I suppose that's a plausible interpretation, but I think that Teacher actually going into the room and being granted a billion rubles kind of undermines it. Although, that is still speculation too.
>>36055>Its about religion that way, in preserving meaning as such, by the denial of its nonsense.Myth: plausible.
>>36054Yeah, that'd be cool actually.
No.36280
>>35649I just can't stand the CGI oopma loompa already
No.36291
>>36290Sick movie. Need to rewatch it someday.
No.36293
>>36022Somebody pointed out that whiplash isn't a music movie it's a sports movie and they are absolutely right and that explains all of the dumb shit that was in it.
No.36294
>>36022zach hill drums so fast he bleeds for realsies, so it's not that dumb
No.36295
>>36290where did you watch this?
No.36298
>>36294Musicians fucking themselves up for their art is no joke. There's a story about a japanese pianist who played Bartok's piano sonata for a competition so hard their hands bled on the keyboard.
That said it's Bartok so yeah your hands are gonna do some wild shit on a good day No.36299
>>24772I like the movie too. Yes, Batman isn't exactly a communist character but as a stylized fun little crime noir, I dug it
No.36300
>>35484>How the fuck was the film anticommunist? Because they cut the scene of Oppenheimer giving Stalin a hand job?Tbf that scene was my main reason for buying the ticket
No.36302
>>35484Pretty much this, if anything it was more sympathetic to the left than I was expecting from a Nolan movie
No.36306
>>35524Dunkirk is actually good because it's where his sterile affect actually works because all of the characters are by design meant to be archetypal, taciturn blank slates for the audience to project onto. It's an oddly minimalistic movie for him, the conflict is localized to a single battle in the war and the scope of conflict is restricted to intimate settings within an apocalyptic environment. There's barely any dialogue for the first 15 minutes and war itself is treated like a horror movie monster - the germans themselves are never really depicted, the threat is war itself as an ambient, oppressive abstraction, like god hurling pox after pox from the sky
I don't think Nolan's style is a drawback, it's more that his coldness and fondness for a very mythic vibe really only works with specific material. Like Kubrick, he's fascinated by systems and their breakdown
No.36311
>>36024become a terrorist, then…
SÉXO is counter-revolutionary
No.36312
>>35450>the yts site which one?
No.36313
>>36310I barely understood this movie when I watched it in HS I should def rewatch
No.36318
>>36310>>36313Makes me want to watch it again. qntm made a good breakdown of the movie on his site if there some stuff you want to understand better
https://qntm.org/primer No.36659
>>36645yeah but does she wear a thong and do you get to see it
No.36661
>>36659Is this a reference to something? She probably is wearing one, but I don't recall seeing it.
No.36665
>>36662To make money? It couldn't be more obvious.
It was based on a book by the titular 'wolf' so it's just self promotion mixed with a bit of American psycho.
No.36666
>>36665That's what I said to my friend when we finished watching and they ended with him giving the sales training seminar.
>And he didn't stop there>He also sold a book>then he sold a movie! No.36667
>>36662In addition to the whole "make money" point already made…
Movies like this about controversial people and subjects are often intentionally vague so they can operate as a kind of cipher for any audience member. Some people will watch it and think the guy's cool and based. Some people will think is shows how seedy and gross Wall Street is.
No.36668
>>36667Dang. Yeah. You're right.
No.36670
>>36665it's a shame
scorsese used to be a beast straddling the avant garde and mainstream in the 70s and 80s
now he makes completely forgettable schlock
No.36797
>>36673I watched it as well and I thought it was atrocious. I'm chilean, not that it should matter obviously, but I think this movie is probably the worst chilean movie I've ever watched and we've made many awful movies. One of the most pretentious yet empty movies I've seen in my life.
No.36798
>>36797Yeah it was pretty bad. The writing was really atrocious. Why I don't really like avante garde movies. It seems they just have the movie be empty and people act randomly and inexplicably and that somehow makes it good. I call them Rorschach ink blot test movies. You can just be pomo and see whatever you want to see. But what does it mean? I'll just show you random images and you make up your own mind. I think this becomes most obvious in movies like this that try to take an avante garde approach to shlocky genres, because they follow all the same patterns and tropes as the shlocky genres and do them badly but the veneer makes it seem like it's deep bro. For example Midsommar is very much like El Conde in that sense.
the plot of the movie made no sense. Pinochet is a vampire who wants to die. His servant is faithful to him and wants to help him die, but for some reason he can't die. He can't kill him, because he's a vampire slave(but actually the vampire slavery trope doesn't actually mean anything because he tries to kill him later) So therefore he goes on a murder rampage, because he knows that if he does, Pinochet's children will decide they have to kill them themselves by showing up and demanding an accounting of his assets in which they will hire a vampire slayer posing as an accountant. Like this is what is revealed to us that set the whole story in motion. The butler knew 5 improbable steps would happen if he went on the murder rampage. The nun character, I still have no idea what was up with her, the way she acts, the things she said just made no sense at all throughout the whole film. Then the butler and the wife try to kill Pinochet, fuck up, then the nun tries to kill him too, fucks up, then the butler kills her after he already tried to kill Pinochet? Why? Who knows. It seemed like he was trying to switch back to team Pinochet, but Pinochet isn't having it(but all this is just inferrence because there's not one word of dialogue in between all these turns of events.) The kids try to kill him, but immediately give up, but he forgives them immediately without a word either. The whole Thatcher VO was completely confusing throughout the movie for no reason just to setup a big reveal that served no purpose. And then the ending is just, and Pinochet lived happily ever after. Awesome.It's just a well filmed, but badly written regular old vampire shlock film. Written worse than some decent films of that genre.
No.36806
>>36798I'ma say I thought those flying shots and everything looked fantastic. I don't know if it was the black and white but it just looked very superb.
No.36876
>>36798The ending of the movie is probably the only decent aspect in the sense that
they're portraying, not very subtly ofc, that Pinochet got away scot free irl so the same happens here. That being said though I would be unable to tell someone who hasn't seen the movie what it's about. What's the purpose of the movie? To mock Pinochet? To honor the victims? I think you hit the nail on the head with the Rorschach test comment, this movie tries to be nothing so it can be interpreted however the viewer wants.
No.36957
>>36876>they're portraying, not very subtly ofc, that Pinochet got away scot free irl so the same happens here.Yeah but it's just repeating the premise as the conclusion. The premise is that Pinochet faked his own death and he's lived for 100s of years already to the point he's tired of life. So he faced no real punishment for his crimes as the premise, then they just redouble it in the conclusion.
No.36958
>>36957I guess I'm not even objectionable to the idea of a movie sort of as an essay where you would expect thesis and conclusion to match, but the body filled no purpose whatsoever, it was just a bunch of random shit that did not address the thesis in any meaningful way.
No.36959
>>36958 me
TBF some stuff in the body addressed the theme, the children, the money. But a lot didn't make sense within the framework of the story as I addressed
>>36798 and also so much was actually random bullshit.
No.36964
complaining about how modern films spoonfeed the audience and tell them exactly what the movie is about and then complaining when I watch one that does the opposite
No.37017
>>36964It's possible to be subtle and also not dadaesque.
No.37026
>>36662that movie turned me into a communist. it seems like they were trying to have "a modern take" on the gangster movie. But it fails without the whole rising from the bottom and the fall narrative.
In comparison to that, I recently watched "once upon a time in america" from Sergio Leone and that is now my favourite gangster movie of all. Apparently half the movie was cut, and it shows but even then I still really enjoyed it.
No.37194
Killers of the Flower Moon just felt like another Scorsese movie in the same style that he used in Goodfellas and The Irishman
No.37210
i have i lost it at the movies by pauline kael on my kindle
but, im not really interested in old reviews of old movies that i've never watched and will be hard to find to watch tbh
No.37303
>>37208The Trotskyists from WSWS hated it too so I think everyone agrees it's just a shitty movie.
No.37304
>>37208Sounds way too long to sit in a theater with no intermission. I'll catch it on streaming maybe.
No.37528
>>37208I'd say the first hour establishing the premise and the last hour after the FBI shows up are all really good, but the hour and a half in between just repeats the same plotting > killing > grieving sequence ad nauseam. The movie is worth seeing but it's just too damn long. Sadly, unlike Heaven's Gate I don't think you'd be able to
actually cut the middle act entirely without making the story incomprehensible.
>>37304I was actually surprised how well I fared without having to pee, drink, stretch etc. That said, it's also not the kind of movie that demands to be seen on a big screen.
>>37026>I recently watched "once upon a time in america" from Sergio Leone and that is now my favourite gangster movie of all.That movie really didn't click with me. The plot was confusing, I couldn't really relate to any of the characters, and the production value was disappointing (lots of fake-looking sets). Maybe the American cut is actually better though, I watched the "extended director's cut" and 4+ hours was way too long.
The only things I still remember about the film are its superb soundtrack (by Morricone) and the rape scene in the limo; was really shocking after the sappy date scene in the fancy restaurant almost put me to sleep. No.37555
Watched Captain Marvel on my phone for the hell of it
It was surprisingly decent
I liked the Skrull Palestinian metaphor which surprised me a bit since capeshit is known for being a bit militaristic and State Department-y
Very checklist-y but that's expected for a corporate monopoly product
The CGI was laughably terrible, the scenes that made heavy use of it honestly felt like an amateur After Effects or Vegas Pro project
The longer action scenes made my attention wander
No.37556
>>37555As far as MCU slop goes, Captain Marvel is alright. It's a fun little romp
provided you ignore that the protagonist is a soldier for empire No.37567
>>37556It's boring as fuck lol and Brie Larson is plank in both physical and acting aspects.
No.37642
>>37641oh i saw the trailer for this, looks like a schmalzy hardboiled-character-rediscovers-innocence type thing
might watch it
No.37684
>>37679Also I don't think it revolves around tired tropes about the banality of evil or whatever, more the willing blindness to or attempts to moderate the openly brutal anti-Semitic ideology of the Nazis by bureaucratic functionaries and intellectuals who wanted to see themselves as "civilized" anti-Semites or part of some good and rational aspect of the Third Reich and NSDAP.
No.37711
>>37555I feel like it had the same phenomena I think many big budget hollywood movies do where different factions of the writing team wanted different things and the result is a weirdly disjointed and contradictory plot and messaging. On one hand the skrull are argueably a pro-palestinian metaphor and brave freedom fighters but Captain Marvel is also a giant recruitment add for the Chair Force. Unless theirs one idiosyncratic lib writer I would suggest that different parts for writing team disagreed on where the story should go and/or the DOD fundin hit and they needed shoehorn in some recruitment ads.
No.37720
Saw "La estrategia del caracol". Very good Colombian movie telling the story of people about to be expelled from a building by mafia porkies who decide to not go quietly. Funny and entertaining but about serious political stuff. Featuring Karl Marx as a crazy engineer and explosive expert.
You can see the movie here:
https://youtu.be/1J2tNHNzwQA No.37848
>>37846Across the spiderverse did not live up to the hype, it was pretty crap in terms of story, antagonist and themes. The first Spiderverse film was much better, and told a concise yet still detailed multiverse story that didn't preach at the audience or create narrative holes. Spiderman 2099 alone is one of the stupidest things in the story, especially considering the source material; there's a reason the "canon event" thing became a meme.
An full critique of the film part by part would be an essay in itself, and I'm not bothering to make effort posts on a story I don't like or dislike enough to merit it, so TL;DR: it was not kino and falls flat compared to the preceding film. If you enjoyed it, that's a different matter, fun movies that you enjoy don't have to be Kino.
No.37883
>>37848The whole point of miguel is that he is a poser. He is not spiderman so has to make a canon using technology. Its an analogy for totalitarianism, which is a common theme for lord and miller films - the outsider who battles against the oppressive system.
The narrative "holes" represent the contradiction of systems of control, not the plot, which is miles unraveling his own "anomalous" place in the world. The next film will make this clear to you, that in fact there is no such thing as the "spiderverse", its an invention of the 2099 algorithm.
Think of gwen and her dad too, where its the idea of a system possessing actors to turn against their instincts - this is the whole theme of the lego movie too.
The idea of miles being the prowler in earth 42 will go into this same stuff - of people having limited choices in systems that dont work for them, but for itself.
Like spider-punk says, "its a metaphor for capitalism"
I would actually like to see an extended critique, since disliking the movie just seems completely contrarian.
No.37884
>>37883 I'm not going to go into an essay but I will expand a bit more on my point, since you're asking for it.
>disliking the movie just seems completely contrarian.It's really not, stop trying to position it as such, that only works if something is popular. The first film was enormously popular and liked, so most people went into this one without having negative associations and presupposed notions about it. Many such as myself found it very lack luster and shallow. What made the animation unique and interesting in the first film gets over-done to the point where it's an eyesore, trying to hard to be "unique". The sound-design was terrible too, with loud noise and music making dialogues hard to discern.
All those things you state as "representative of totalitarianism" or other symbolism is just extrapolations you've reached, when it's really not that deep, just pretending to be. The message of people having limited options and conforming under totalitarianism can be a good story, but it doesn't fit with this premise. This same exact concept of a debate over non-interference as a plot point is done much better in Star Trek series like TNG, with the Prime Directive and the reason it exists versus some of the violations of it and justifications of such violations. It doesn't take that long to tell such a story, with the longest I recall being an hour and a half long. The Multiverse argument can't even be used since they're not actively hopping through and exploring each multiverse, almost all of the alternative verses are barely explored or relevant.
What the story theme is really about is the done-to-death American theme that teenagers know better than their parents, which is a de-evolution from stories that were about the overall conflict and rights/wrongs of both parent and child and the reconciliation of both their world-views, which is how Soviet and older Western story-telling discussed the topic (such as Mirror for a Hero). The "They don't know me" schtick is another tired cliche too.
Cutting to the chase of the story and bypassing the immense amount of very bland fanservice for the beginning of the film, Miles realizes that under Miguel's direction, the Spiderman guild is letting people die to preserve the canon of their stories and lore. The thing is that this breaks the entire comic-book setting because its conceptually a paradox, especially since this is essentially 4th-wall self-awareness. The "canon event" doesn't work if the character is aware and actually able to change the event, if things are fated to be, then no action or inaction will change it, if things are not fated to be, then there's no reason for a comic-book hero to not act. There's a difference between not knowing what would happen and knowing someone would die and not protecting them for the sake of a sacrifice to canon when the very existence of multiverses means that there is an infinite number of each reality where different things happened.
The impacts for the story alone are staggering. Saving someone doesn't change the fact that the original timeline where, (for example) Uncle Ben died, and if a Spiderman saves Uncle Ben, then this becomes a new reality and new verse where he was saved, and the timelines split from that point, a la Terminator and Terminator 2, wherein one timeline has Judgement Day happen and another where it's prevented/delayed, which is why you don't have the grandfather paradox with John Connor. Otherwise saving anyone from any verse is impossible because it becomes a paradox, because if one [action] happens then the timeline doesn't continue as it did, which means the events that led up to the timeline being interfered with can't happen, which means that [action] could never have taken place to begin with. So either way the entire plot of the film stops making sense because either way there's no reason to not try to save someone fated to die, as it will either be impossible, or it will split timelines and not change the original canon. It's contradictory to the idea that there is an infinite multiverse with infinite possibilities and either makes every single spiderman story meaningless because it's all predestined. Sure WE the audience know that, by nature of it being written by an author that has an ending in mind, but the characters do not, and within the story itself they can make choices that determine the end result, thus Fate is what we make it. OR we have an Oedipus situation, wherein trying to avoid or change fate, instead brings about the fated outcome.
The authors probably considered NONE of this and just slap-dashed generic time-travel rules to a multiverse without thinking through the consequences.
>Miguel is a poser And that's stupid, it ignores the entire idea of who Spiderman 2099 is supposed to be. His entire story is built around both cynical pragmatism but also a principled idealism for heroism. His character would never abide by the concept of "let them die for the canon", no spiderman would because it fundamentally breaks the Spiderman character. FFS we're shown that there are THOUSANDS of spiderman variants and apparently they're aware of what's going on, yet not a single Peter Parker thinks "Wait a minute, this is wrong."? Only Miles suddenly has an epiphany about this just to make him look better than the rest of them, which is lame, since the idea of spiderverse is that each one brings something to the table unique to them. If you have to have a bad spiderman you can have those that forget the little things of being a hero like with some of the Iron Spider variants who get too caught up in heady power and start to be assholes, or spidermen that are driven to madness by their failures, or whatever, as has been done in other spiderverse stories. This just feels like a "everyone's an NPC but me" movie.
In fact Miguel and everyone that follows him feels like a lazy attempt to caricaturize comic fans that obsess over canon, which is admittedly a fair complaint, but fails to work within the actual story framework given. Either Miguel is right and Miles is essentially ready to sacrifice an entire universe of innocent people to try and prevent something that is fated to happen OR Miguel is wrong, and the entire concept including Miguel's own motivations of lost family are also meaningless sacrifices. There's gonna be some generic twist in the next film to "make it right" but I honestly have no idea how they're going to unfuck this cat-hairball of a mess.
>Think of gwen and her dadI'd rather not, it's by far one of the stupidest parts of the film. Sure you don't choose family, but if your old man will put a gun to your head in a situation where you come to him for help, that man is no father to you. It's beyond unbelievable.
>Spiderpunk Spider-punk is a literal punk in the sense that he talks a big game but in the end he wusses out, and his statement about "capitalism" is some of the most heavy-handed broad-stroke garden-variety childishness. He's an Ultra, same radlib rhetoric, same supposed criticism of capitalism and same shallow inaction at the end of it.
>people having limited choices in systems that dont work for them, but for itself.Which is literally Margaret Thatcher's nonsense about Individuals. Society can be oppressive to individuals and groups, but society is also made up of individuals, You cannot reject one for the other or vice versa. The system is a reflection of the collective of individuals and their actions. All systems work for themselves, but that alone doesn't take away the agency of the people within it, to say otherwise is equivalent to the Nuremburg Defense.
>The next film will make this clear Fuck that, a film, even a 2-parter needs proper pacing and should have a proper conclsion. The first half of the film is filled with lazy reference bait and petty drama. The story is just cliche after cliche, half-a-dozen subplots that remain unexpanded upon and are simply bait for possible future spin-offs to milk the "Spider-multiverse" idea dry. Finally the "Family" theme is heavy-handed, over-used and shallowly done. Lengthy character exposition is relied on to tell story beats rather than showing and implying. The central conflict of the story is poorly built up, which is amazing given that the film is over 2 hours long.
As a side note the diversity of the film is tokenistic as hell. I know a few of my Indian friends who were pissed about the Indian Peter Parker, since they just replaced the American name with similar-sounding Indian names and re-designed villains with shallow aesthetics that are basically racist stereotypes; Manhattan but hindu! He doesn't display anything lifestyle or culture-wise that would be unique to an in-depth version of the setting, something to actually make him his own character and which ought to be an impact as to how he became a hero mentally, since his story has no reason to be the same as the original Peter Parker Spiderman, as the material conditions are different.
I've said my piece as asked of me, I don't wish to continue the conversation, if others wish to, go ahead.. Good Night.
No.37886
Harakiri is very good go watch it
No.37887
>>37886Like literal Haraikiri?
No.37888
>>37887This is a movie thread so the classic movie. Shit, unfunny joke.
No.37917
Watched the last half of Battle Beyond the Stars with my dad because it was airing on a free movie channel. Like Star Wars but sillier (although not an outright parody like Spaceballs). Some of the ship designs were actually pretty good.
>>37886Loved it, heard that a lot of these old samurai movies shit on samurai and the japanese feudal order in general, was not disappointed
No.37963
>>37884>his story has no reason to be the same as the original Peter Parker Spiderman, as the material conditions are different. That's the whole problem with the "canon event" concept (and the "multiverse" premise as it's currently used) in general. We have to assume that despite wildly different realities, certain things will just happen the same way regardless for the sake of the story.
At least in some older versions of the multiverse premise, the only time you had alternate versions of individual people was when they were different branches of the same original timeline. In other words, the same people but with the different possible outcomes, like a choose your own adventure story. The problem with this is that the butterfly effect means that any specific individual person won't exist in most universes. Essentially, the universes where they don't exist would be infinitely larger than the ones where they do. And the ones ehere they do would be infinitely many. The whole concept is basically too big to really fit it into a proper story. Especially not the kind of simple and formulaic one you are allowed to tell in a contemporary mainstream movie or TV show.
It's also a very insidious form of propaganda, because the message is basically Calvinist. Things must be this way and turn out this way. Like, in Spiderverse the "canon event" plot point is about a police captain close to Spider-Man dying. This means that in the story, across all universes there is a police force. The movie is very explicitly saying that there is no reality without the police (among pther things).
These movies are also weirdly obsessed with validating bourgeois institutions, like how Miles Morales gives a shit about going to college to study physics so he can learn about the multiverse… when what they know in academia in his universe amounts to nothing compared to what he could learn from the spiderverse people who have technology that lets them casually jump universes and manipulate causality.
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