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Post general thoughts, comments and marxist or any analysis on the show.

Ep 1 and 2 is out, Ep 3 comes out today.

Never seen GoT and enjoying the show so far, decent political intrigue so far.
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 No.30743

>>30689
It's not like Bobby B's heir. Rhaenyra is still their mother and her bastards get their claim from her. A monarch can legitimize their bastards if they want. The reason the War of Five Kings happened in GoT is because Joffrey isn't related to King Robert except very indirectly through the families being related. He has no blood from the king. It's a different scenario. It would be like if Bobby B had raised one of his bastards as a true born son.

 No.30744

>>30742
Precisamente

 No.30747

>>30741
fuck you!!!

>>30708
>take history
>make everyhting bigger and more dramatic
>millions???

>>30740
>The feet stuff being real made me laugh like never

wait what

 No.30755

oh man, lil guy got chomped in one bite

 No.30756

Honestly Rhaenera is a dumbass. Shouldn't have sent young boys to do high level negotiating.

 No.30858

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I see what you were trying to say now anon
Weird asf Green-Red alliance

I guess it's just some bored russians memeing

 No.30866

>>30756
Should have sent both to the same place. A prince still commands respect. And even Aemond didn't really wanted to kill Luke. The scene was about the dragon being an unstable WMD, everyone hates Aemond now, I don't know why. At best you can accuse him of willful negligence.

Rhaenera is subpar to the top players of the game by a good amount. Her limited success comes from her strong willpower, her advisors and the sheer weight of her claim.

>>30858
Partly, it's contrarianism, secondly it's the infatuation with realpolitik over romantic idealism.

But hey, the cast seems like really nice people. I like shows where I can't stand the actors, but this is luckily not the case here.

 No.30867

>>30858 (me)
Also, there seems to be a good axis between the actors, the showrunners and GRRM. They all said they had great freedom in creating these characters, some dialog was improvised. Also this is the only show I know where the female directors deliver the good episodes.

Really shows you what kind of narcisisstic failsons D&D were.

 No.30885

>>30866
what are some shows where you hate the actors, spill the tea

 No.34905

So a year later, what's the thread's opinion on this compared to GoT?

 No.34912

>>30705
>This means that every single action his characters take will be meticulously reviewed, and he sometimes burns entire chapters he deems to be unfit.
Isn't this how books are edited? Do you not know what drafts are?

 No.34915

>>34905
Waiting on the 2nd and 3rd (WGA willing) seasons to form an opinion

 No.36420

Some people actually feel like the blacks are the good guys? Rhaenyra and Daemon both killed their spouses. Rhaenys joining them doesn't really make sense to me when she knows they killed her son.

 No.36421

>>36420
Oh yeah and Rhaenys stomping all those random people of course.

 No.36422

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>>34905
Actually think this start was stronger. Ned Stark and his investigation was the stupidest shit forever. Robert Barratheon is like his best friend and he knows their whole family and he needed to do deep research to figure out none of them are blonde. And that's not even actually evidence. I guess Cersei is even dumber than him because she confessed when confronted with his non evidence.

 No.36424

>>36422
The book establishes it better that Joffrey being a bastard was an open secret and that the realm was already on the brink of war due to Robert being a shit king. Realistically the show had a lot of worldbuliding to cram in there on their budget for season 1 (and a lot of the first 2 episodes is recycled footage from the pilot).

>>34905
It feels a little rushed out the gate to cope with GoT suddenly no longer being a cash cow. It will probably improve with time. They don't have to worry about running out of material and there's plenty of room for interpretation since the book is more like an outline.

>>34915
The WGA/SAG strike doesn't affect production because it's done in the UK which doesn't recognize the strike.

 No.36425

>>36424
the writers are american

 No.36426

>>36424
>The book establishes it better that Joffrey being a bastard was an open secret
Doesn't that make his investigation make even less sense? I guess I should read the books, but I kinda don't want to knowing the bastard will never finish them. I'm sure he's mentally fucked considering how much everyone hated the ending of the show. Supposedly it was based on his notes, but I wonder how it would've been if he wrote it.

I actually tried to read GoT a long time ago before I watched the show but I gave up because he wants to introduce 40 characters in the first chapter and I was like "ain't no way I'm remembering who these people are."

 No.36427

>>36425
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/house-of-the-dragon-season-2-writers-strike-wga-1235601037/

‘House of the Dragon’ Season 2 to Continue Filming Amid Writers Strike, All Scripts Were Finished

 No.36454

>>34905
It's pretty good. The writing is consistent (unlike GoT) and the only weakness was that the first season has is that it is basically a set-up for the war, that's why you got mostly court drama and King's Landing as the only location. But all the reasons for going to war are now logical and firmly established, there is barely a way how they can fuck this up now.

Watch GoT season 6-8 and compare the dialog with HotD. It's a lot of improvement.

 No.36455

>>36426
>Doesn't that make his investigation make even less sense?
The whole point of the Ned investigation plot is that he's an honorable dumbass who was too idealistic to see what what right in front of everyone, then does an "emperor's new clothes" and precipitates the war of 5 kings. It's a deconstruction of honor as an ideal and how it conflicts with realpolitik. He wanted to do right by the realm but his principles led him to fucking things up (and getting himself and some of his own family killed).

 No.36456

>>36455
Interesting. So does the book make it seem like Robert knows and just doesn't care?

 No.36459

>>36456
Robert is too busy drinking and fucking and hunting into an early grave because he won the throne but lost the only thing he actually cared about (the woman he was simping for) and the hollow victory gave him terminal ennui. I feel like that part was pretty effectively conveyed in the show tbh.

 No.36460

>>36459
I mean what even was Ned's plan tho? Like what would've happened if he managed to tell Robert before he died?

>Hey Rob, you ever think about why your kids are all blonde bro…

 No.36461

>>36460
>I mean what even was Ned's plan tho?
"Do what's right." The whole point is that he is too concerned with following rules to think in terms of "what will the consequences be?" He totally trusts his ideals of honor, duty, etc to put him on the right path. He is too naive to anticipate that this just makes him easily predictable to people who are "unscrupulous." It's more than a little cartoonish, but the point of it is pretty overt. GRRM isn't too good at subtlety, that's why everyone and their dog figured out R+L=J already.

 No.36485

why is it so fucking dark?
it's a fantasy show
you can have a little color, you know

 No.36486

>>36485
the last couple of seasons of got had this problem too apparently

 No.36487

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>>36485
It's shot for HDR format TVs. On regular TVs it looks bad. Upgrade your home theater setup you fucking poormie.
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>>36486
GoT was just trying to mask bad CGI, that's a really common way to do it. Realistic color grading isn't common in big-budget productions at the moment, which also helps disguise things and make them uniform since you pipe everything to the same color palette. There are cases where it can work but it's overdone and GoT was pretty infamous example. The climactic battle scene of the series take place at night and it's lit in a way where you often literally cannot see anything. It's comical, one of the biggest and key factions from episode one of the show gets "wiped out" (until next episode where the showrunners kinda forgot about that) and the way it's shown is picrel. You just see the flames from their weapons lit on fire charging toward the enemy and then going out.

 No.36490

>>36487
i watched it on an HDR smart TV in the dark
it still looked dull

 No.36534

>>36487
How the hell did you get emojis to function on this site?

 No.36535

>>36534
Emojis are just unicode symbols. You can copy and paste them from elsewhere if your browser doesn't have a feature to add emojis or something.

 No.36536

>>36534
leftypol.org encodes page in unicode
it's just a matter of browser or OS compatibility at that point

 No.36537

>>36536
>>36535
I see, because I just get the blank squares when I try to post some for kicks in /siberia/

 No.40407

House of the Dragon season two already comes out in June, because the writers were scabs. Still, I'm pretty excited, there is gonna be less court drama, more action and more locations than just King's Landing and Dragonstone. I hope they don't focus too much on the dragon stuff; because it's too much high fantasy for my taste.

 No.40408

>>40407
>there is gonna be less court drama, more action
That worked greatly last time…

 No.40409

>>40408
For the stuff that was already in the books, yes. Battle of Blackwater, The Red Wedding and the Battle on the Wall were all good episodes - besides the horrible night shots all the time where you can't see shit (HotD is guilty of that as well). But I already disliked Hardhome and the Battle of the Bastards, both of them were simply ridiculous.

 No.40422

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>>40407
>Show is called "House of the Dragon"
>look inside
>dragons

 No.40433

>>40407
>A show literally a prequel set in the times Dragons were more common and which are both in the name and part of the Targaryen heritage
<I hope they don't focus to much on the dragon stuff
Are you daft laddy?

 No.40443

>>40422
>>40433
I mean the Dragons pretty much were setpieces in season one most the time, there was not a plot revolving around them compared to the character dynamics (of the humans). We even got zero information on them, how intelligent they, what their behaviour is, like do they gather treasures or abduct princesses in their free time, are there any magic properties to them besides the obvious, etc.

I'm okay with all this btw.

 No.40464

>>40443
I think this could be better explored had this show been an animation. With dragons there's always the CGI budget limiting their appearance time.

 No.40465

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>>40464
HBO makes serious adult television for serious adults such as myself. They would not produce some kiddie cartoon.

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 No.40629

>>40623
eh, i hate this pandering towards fandom team sport shit

 No.40630

>>40465
>They would not produce some kiddie cartoon
Uhhhh… I guess I shouldn't mention HBO Max then. Although technically Max's adult cartoons are still Cartoon Network/Adult Swim's production. But HBO and Cartoon Network/Adult Swim are subsidiaries of WB Discovery anyway, they cross over (in Multiversus it's taken literally). If we'll see a cartoon adaptation of GoT it'll probably be made by Cartoon Network Studios if it won't get closed before this ever happens. Or Frederator Studios. DEFINITELY Frederator, they've made Castlevania. Although CNS has made Primal afaik so hard to say.

 No.40631

>>40464
Funny that you say that it should be fully animated for better visual quality while we have hundreds of cheaply-made 2D cartoons, both targetted at children and adults. Realistically speaking, the animated GoT will probably be like Velma or that Star Trek cartoon because animated sitcoms are a form of incureable cancer. I know I said that Frederator would most likely produce it but on second thought it's the BEST CASE scenario.

 No.40633

>>40629
Me too, soyjak fandom will like it tho. Relax tho, it's just the trailer, which is all about advertising, usually not produced by the showrunners at all

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>>40629
That's kind of appropriate for this story. That's not why they're doing it, thoughever. It's very effective marketing to have different "teams" in the fandom arguing with each other because it keeps more attention on the property. Different industries figured it out at different points. Movies/TV production probably realized it with Twilight and the whole Edward vs Jacob craze that everyone and their dog had to hear about even if they hated it.

>>40631
>>40630
If Gurm wanted to get his shit animated he should try to make more connections in Japan. Maybe Miyazaki (not that one, the other one) could hook him up with some anime studio. The prospects of an adult animated ASOIAF show is straight up not going to happen because Gurm is under the HBO umbrella. If he had jumped on Netflix they would be all over it. They love animation. Warner-Discovery-whatever fucking hates it due to the new CEO David Zaslav who clearly hates animation (canceling and pulling a ton of it from the HBO/Max catalog). Partly because animation is costly, probably partly because he is a boomer who wants to make low effort reality TV and thinks cartoons are for babies.

 No.41202

https://www.ign.com/articles/george-rr-martin-announces-house-of-the-dragon-coloring-book

Ahahaha. This fatass will probably rather kill his cousin instead of writing the books. I'd be surprised if he has even written a single chapter from TWOW that wasn't left over from the ADWD script.


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