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Since Star Wars got a thread why can’t this? Discuss anything you like of the universe. lore, art, diy modeling or even Marxist critique of the setting and gw parasitic relationship with it.
To start of the part 5 of Astartes fan film and the promise for more.
https://youtu.be/eoCcpMW8fSs No.26068
>>25954Sounds good enough. Have fun!
No.26090
I think I preferred this series back in the older iteration that had Necrons and fun characterizations of Gork and Mork.
No.26133
>>26090The Necrons never went away. Do you mean the 3rd edition terminator crons?
>>26059The entire fandom is cringe. The point being no factions are sympathetic. Despite what the Imperial fanboys tell you.
No.26193
>>26176Sounds like a roman philosopher/priest pondering over why their emprie was collapsing.
No.30819
>>26133The Tau were sympathetic until Imperial butthurt caused them to be retconned
No.30833
>>30832No it isn't, grey and grey morality is the refuge of the nihilist edgelord.
No.30834
>>30833Its all black in warhammer. I would like it if Tau remained the single good faction in otherwise cartoonishly grimdark galaxy. The setting works best when its half serious/half comedy. Dawn of War is peak 40k as far as I am concerned, on one hand you have actual story and characters, on the other you click on unit and they will start screaming at you about how much they love murder.
No.30842
>>30838WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHH
No.30844
orks is da bestest, da biggest and da baddest. cope and seethe simperials.
No.30845
>>26176orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks
No.30850
I usually really dislike warhammer for a lot of reasons but I do like da orks, they're the only likeable faction to me and they seem to be having a good time. also some of the ork stories are really good. ever heard of Tuska deamon slaya? basically this guy was travelling through the warp on a ship when the shields went down. the daemons of course flooded the ship but Tuska and his boyz slaughtered them. apparently Tuska liked his fight with the daemons so much that nothing could compare to daemons after that encounter so he decided to dedicate his life to slaughtering demons and gave himself the name- "Tuska Daemon Killa". he then decided to travel around the warp with his shields down to lure daemons into his shit so he could beat the shit out of him and thats exactly what he did- he went around the warp with his shields down and every time he did that demons would flood his ship and he and his boyz would obliterate them every single time. it got so bad that eventually daemons would just ignore him and let him pass.
No.30851
>>30850this really pissed Tuska off so he decided to take the fight to the daemons by going into the eye of terror to terrorize them. the eye was guarded by the simperials but they were all pointed AT the eye so they couldn't or just didn't stop Tuska from going into the eye. they expected things to come out of the eye, they didn't expect some nutjob to try and go in. so yeah, in goes Tuska and absolutely terrorizes those chaos worlds- he sacked them untill he arrived at Khorne's world which was empty for some reason which really pissed him off, so he and his boys started shooting up the ground. this caused Khorne's demons to come out and start attacking so Tuska resumed the usual slaughter. he was kicking the daemon ass so hard that they had to send out a demon prince who eventually managed to shank Tuska with his sword. before he died Tuska crushed the prince's testicles with his power claw. this was not the end for Tuska though, Khorne liked him so much that he dragged him and his boys to be resurrected and fight his demons for all eternity. so basically ork heaven. Tuska still fights daemons in Khorne's realm to this day. hes also probably insanely strong because of all the fighting so when, not if, when he escapes he will probably cuck the entire galaxy into submission.
No.31548
>>5242>Annoying how the biggest collection of art books are porn sites.Honestly E-Hentai is the best art site on the internet. I find so much obscure art books there, often going back to like the 1970s. It's god send for classic fantasy art from the 70s and 80s.
No.31552
>>31551Yeah but what about artists who will starve now that their jobs have been automated?
No.31559
>>31552Luddites said the same about the fabric industry. To this day more clothes are made in sweat shops by human hands than ever before. People will use AI art for the mundane like advertising and macros, but like modern artisans, hand made stuff will always be more valuable if they are higher quality. Not to mention the huge avenue opened to artists fixing AI art while letting the machine do the grunt sketch work.
Artists against AIs are reactionaries.
No.31560
>>31559The Luddites were unironically correct though. They were just off by a couple centuries. Even the neoliberals admit in their studies that automation is responsible for many job losses. Much of the "tech industry" are just disguised automation of workers in order to increase competitive pressure and unemployment - like how Uber destroyed unionized taxi drivers and forced a race to the bottom.
No.31580
>>31560>automation is responsible for many job losses.I don't think that's actually true. A socialist society would employ everybody, and the advances in automation would be used to reduce the work-day, make people work 6 hours instead of 8 to 10.
Some of the economic automation bonus would also be spend on raising the level of ambition for certain projects.
I think job-loss is a capitalist thing, not a technology thing.
Only capitalists seek to replace workers with automation. A socialist society would see automation as a way to increase the productivity of workers. Which is a more realistic goal.
What the capitalists are doing doesn't make much sense because they are trying to proletarianize capital it self. It doesn't actually end the class struggle. If they make machines that can do all the things that workers can do, they will have created machine workers with the same class interests. Class struggle transcends the substrate.
Also the capitalists aren't really investing much into technological advances anymore, so the future isn't racing towards us anymore, it's a really slow crawl.
No.31581
>>31580>machine workers??? no,they would just devalue the rate of profit by replacing labor with dead labor,since the machines are capital themselves. (or in non marxist terms,they are destroying the loop of the economy by producing commodities that nobody can buy because of no wages)
Class struggle doesn't transcend humanity or sentience,that would be twisting Marx's writing in the weirdest way I've read so far.
No.31582
>>31581>no,they would just devalue the rate of profit by replacing labor with dead labor,since the machines are capital themselves.>they are destroying the loop of the economyIt depends, if machines don't reproduce, then yes it's just going to be dead labor. Eventually all the machines will be depreciated and the hole thing winds down like a clockwork that nobody is winding up anymore.
However if the capitalists could manage to make the machines reproduce them self, the machines would stop being capital and they would become workers.
Humans are biological machines that produce all the things in the economy and they also reproduce them selves. If the workers didn't make new workers there could not be economic surplus.
>Class struggle doesn'tOf course class struggle is not limited to humans. I doubt you could make non-sentient machines that can do all the things that workers do. If you make the machines reproduce all the abilities of workers, you'll end up reproducing the mental processes that workers have as well.
No.31583
>>31582Ah yes, Hegel's Master Slave dialectic is pertinent here
No.37003
Was watching the Space Marine animation from like, 2011 the other day, and holy crap is it fucking awful.
No.37005
>>31582doesnt the whole notion of machines reproducing themselves smack of perpetual motion
No.37006
>>37005No because they use external energy sources?
No.37010
>>37003You mean the official Ultramarine movie? I couldnt even watch it becquse of how awful the animation was.
No.37012
>>37010>the official Ultramarine movie>awful animation ????
No.37013
>>37010Yeah, I would really recommend watching it. I just had it on while I did other stuff which… mitigated it. Somewhat. It was hard to tell exactly what was happening to who because everyone looks the fucking same.
>>37012It's really bad. It looks like you're watching a Starcraft cinematic.
No.37022
>>37013For 2010 that's not bad at all unless you're expecting Pixar tier 3D from a small company? And yeah the animation is actually pretty decent, it's not choppy, the movements aren't sudden and jerky and the textures are relatively well done. You can say the eyes are a bit off with a deadish look but that's just a limitation of the program it was made in.
No.37025
>>37024>Even models look outdatedNot really, the textures of the human faces is a bit lacking, but its certainly better than a lot of 3D shit I saw in that time that wasn't made by a large professional studio.
>sound design is fucked Absolute nonsense, there is some parts that could be better modulated, but those are minor issues that aren't significantly noticeable
>saturationwhich make sense for the setting and environments they're in.
>no weight to anythingThe fuck are you talking about? Each character moves like a real person, or as close to it as the software can manage, the plates of armor shift and move, there's visible effort in the physical motions of characters etc.
Again the most criticism would be for the facial animations
>Virtually any post 2000 video game had better cinematics than this Absolute fucking nonsense, up until the later 2000s most cinematics and cut-scenes for vidya was fucking stilted as hell, Cawadoody had some of the better animations and it wasn't good either. You're also dismissing that vidya cutscenes and cinematics are much shorter, are produced by professional animation companies with actual budgets. There's a reason that cinematic level animation didn't really appear in actual vidya until the 2010s, and that being the heavy graphics load. industry standard graphic cards and the massive rendering farms of professionals are on a whole different level compared to what amounts to a large fan-project, especially since 3D rendering is a lot harder in some aspects like graphics compared to 2D animation which can be replicated more easily (relatively) by an animator.
No.37029
>>37025Dawn of War came out like 7 years before that and it's opening intro looks a lot better.
No.37031
>>37029Can you not read?
>vidya cutscenes and cinematics are much shorter, are produced by professional animation companies with actual budgets. No.37032
>>37031Doesn't change the fact that the smurfs movie looks like shite you wrong faggot.
No.37036
>>37033the relevance is that your justifications for this sub reboot piece of shit looking like crap are wrong and you should consider suicide
No.37037
>>37036>All this no-argument word-salad Take your own advice.
No.40738
Tzeentch is based, praise Tzeentch, heil Anarchy, and fuck the spooked Redditor Emperor.
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