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 No.3333[View All]

Since Star Wars got a thread why can’t this? Discuss anything you like of the universe. lore, art, diy modeling or even Marxist critique of the setting and gw parasitic relationship with it.

To start of the part 5 of Astartes fan film and the promise for more.
https://youtu.be/eoCcpMW8fSs
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 No.23839

>>23813

They sure like to make money, don't they? kek

 No.23849

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>>23813
>>23814
>>23839
Yep, looks like the logo is kind of autobot like too.

 No.23865

>>18653
That's Kinda funny, seeing how GW basically ripped off other things from other sources to make WH40k. I swear they are doing the same crap that Disney did.

>Make something from the public Domain

>Then get popular from your creation
>Start to sue anyone who tries to use the same ideas as you in order to protect your so-called "Intellectual Property".

 No.24811

>>3333
>3333
Damn, checked

 No.24880

>>23849
Turns out they are identical race of clones. Like a squat version of sontarans. Come to think of it, there armour is also a sontaran ripoff.
https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2022/05/warhammer-40k-the-leagues-of-votann-are-clones.html

 No.25859

Bros, I've been passively consuming Warhammer content for the past few months and learning the lore through Lorehammer, Templin videos, and reading shit. I've always had a passing interest in Warhammer for over a decade but actually delving into the main parts of the lore has been such a euphoric experience. I'm mesmerized, I've never read a fictional universe as expansive as this one, I could get lost in the countless of articles in the Lexicanum. I've caved in and even bought Dawn of War 1. I finished it in like three days and am moving on to the expansions.

 No.25874

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Has the siege of terra saga been concluded yet?
>>25859
I know that feeling. I had my warhammer craze during 2018-2019 (even got and read picrel in like, 7 months). 40K feels like modern greek mythology in terms of it vastness and depth. Its great.

Would also reccomend:
>r/40kLore sub (>inb4 r*ddit).
Had a pretty comfy time in there.
>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Main_Page
The true warhammer wiki. Made me kek a lot.

 No.25875

>>25859
i like this guy, he has a in interesting type of lore channel.

 No.25878

>>25874
>>25875
I feel like I'm going too fast though. I'm in a Catch-22 state where I just want to consume everything, but I'm afraid of losing the wonder of going through it all. For example, I was absolutely terrified of the Astartes and the whole "a single chapter can shift the tide of a war." makes me tremble at their might. But after playing Dawn of War (which I loved) I see them more as elite soldiers in comparison to the IG than The God Emperor's Angels and will made manifest, especially in comparison to the fucking Custodes. Maybe delving into more media and books might bring that terror back.

Also, that lore channel looks amazing. I'm thinking of reading the Ultramarines since the achievement of Primarch G and the realm of Ultramar is downright admirable. Idc if theyre overrated. Any more recommendations?

 No.25879

>>25878
Ultramarines Omnibus*

 No.25880

>>25859
>>25874
Love 1d4chan, it's a relic of better internet times. Also, got any recommended reading?

 No.25908

By far one of the best speeches i've ever heard.

 No.25909

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>>25859
Winter Assault and Dark Crusade were GOAT. However you do need soulstorm to play the UA mod.
I love obscure ass corners of warhammer lore like the weird and wacky xenos. For instance the hilariously underrated Rak'gol, Thyrrus or the Randang which almost wiped out the entire imperium if the emperor hadn't released the fucking Void Dragon C'Tan on them.
Also fun fact, the Imperium has canon cat girls. Not the furry catfolk but the neko variety.

 No.25930

>>25878
>I feel like I'm going too fast though. I'm in a Catch-22 state where I just want to consume everything
Slow down there, bucko. First of all: read (the wikis), discuss, and watch 40k lore related content. Then see what appeals to you and go consoom that.
>but I'm afraid of losing the wonder of going through it all
From personal experience, some of the biggest themes that got me pondering for a long time over in the 40K universe were:
<The question of religion and human need to atribute meaning to everything
<The Emperor and his actions, motivations, goals and personality
<Figuring out what the fuck was warhammer in the first place (this may seem ridiculous, but it took me a long time to understand that 40k's fundamental branch was a wargame; for some time it just looked to me as if all this lore rich universe wasn't attached to anything, be it books, games etc.)
Maybe you'll think about these as well for a long time. Or you might me interested in something entirely different.
>But after playing Dawn of War (which I loved) I see them more as elite soldiers in comparison to the IG than The God Emperor's Angels and will made manifest, especially in comparison to the fucking Custodes. Maybe delving into more media and books might bring that terror back.
Be prepared for incredibly inconsistency in regards to astartes. One day you'll have hundreds of them being slaughtered and dropping dead like flies due to a chapter-ending tier wars (or general alpha legion dickery), but on another, a single (or was it two? Can't remember) word bearer will kill a – weakened – custodes at the blink of an eye. Or Kaldor Draigo will be doing literally anything (such as carving his mentor's name in the heart of one of the most sturdy chaos primarchs out there. Not making this shit up).
What matters the most is understanding the general feeling of it all – i.e. space marines can do lots of stupid shit, but they're still badass walking tanks of death at the end of the day – while knowing things chance for the sake of entertainment. No one would like seeing (only) ultramarines doing everything right and being completely competent all the time because that shit would be BORING (ahem), so this formula can get shaken up.
>I'm thinking of reading the Ultramarines since the achievement of Primarch G and the realm of Ultramar is downright admirable. Idc if theyre overrated. Any more recommendations?
Never read. But if it has ADB and Dan Abnett in it, then it should be good. Just avoid Goto and Matt Ward like a plague.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/C.S._Goto
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Matthew_Ward
>>25880
Along with the one i've already listened, i remember the chaos gods' and the varied space marine chapter's (specially the most memey ones) articles being pretty funny.

 No.25954

>>25930
>First of all: read (the wikis), discuss, and watch 40k lore related content.
I find myself watching hour long lore vids every other while I clean the house. When I'm doing work, I listen to a lore podcast. And every now and then I delve into the wiki and just randomly browse. Is that still too fast or at a moderately… decent pace?

 No.26009

I like reading the 1d4chan Warhammer entries

 No.26059

>>14919
What is the most sympathetic faction?

 No.26068

>>25954
Sounds good enough. Have fun!

 No.26090

I think I preferred this series back in the older iteration that had Necrons and fun characterizations of Gork and Mork.

 No.26133

>>26090
The Necrons never went away. Do you mean the 3rd edition terminator crons?
>>26059
The entire fandom is cringe. The point being no factions are sympathetic. Despite what the Imperial fanboys tell you.

 No.26146


 No.26176

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>>26146
>"The Orks are the pinnacle of creation. For them, the great struggle is won. They have evolved a society which knows no stress or angst. Who are we to judge them? We Eldar who have failed, or the Humans, on the road to ruin in their turn. And why? Because we sought answers to questions that an Ork wouldn't even bother to ask! We see a culture that is strong and despise it as crude."

– Uthan the Perverse, Eldar Philosopher

 No.26193

>>26176
Sounds like a roman philosopher/priest pondering over why their emprie was collapsing.

 No.30818

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>Dogmatically follows ages-old book while missing its point
>Chapter is called ULTRAmarines
Can't make this shit up.

 No.30819

>>26133
The Tau were sympathetic until Imperial butthurt caused them to be retconned

 No.30832

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>>30819
Having all of them being 'morally' questionable is far more insteresting.

 No.30833

>>30832
No it isn't, grey and grey morality is the refuge of the nihilist edgelord.

 No.30834

>>30833
Its all black in warhammer. I would like it if Tau remained the single good faction in otherwise cartoonishly grimdark galaxy. The setting works best when its half serious/half comedy. Dawn of War is peak 40k as far as I am concerned, on one hand you have actual story and characters, on the other you click on unit and they will start screaming at you about how much they love murder.

 No.30838

>>30834
>I would like it if Tau remained the single good faction
<'E DUZZENT KNOW ABOUT DA ORKS

 No.30842

>>30838
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHH

 No.30844

orks is da bestest, da biggest and da baddest. cope and seethe simperials.

 No.30845

>>26176
orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks

 No.30847


 No.30849

>>26059
da orks!

 No.30850

I usually really dislike warhammer for a lot of reasons but I do like da orks, they're the only likeable faction to me and they seem to be having a good time. also some of the ork stories are really good. ever heard of Tuska deamon slaya? basically this guy was travelling through the warp on a ship when the shields went down. the daemons of course flooded the ship but Tuska and his boyz slaughtered them. apparently Tuska liked his fight with the daemons so much that nothing could compare to daemons after that encounter so he decided to dedicate his life to slaughtering demons and gave himself the name- "Tuska Daemon Killa". he then decided to travel around the warp with his shields down to lure daemons into his shit so he could beat the shit out of him and thats exactly what he did- he went around the warp with his shields down and every time he did that demons would flood his ship and he and his boyz would obliterate them every single time. it got so bad that eventually daemons would just ignore him and let him pass.

 No.30851

>>30850
this really pissed Tuska off so he decided to take the fight to the daemons by going into the eye of terror to terrorize them. the eye was guarded by the simperials but they were all pointed AT the eye so they couldn't or just didn't stop Tuska from going into the eye. they expected things to come out of the eye, they didn't expect some nutjob to try and go in. so yeah, in goes Tuska and absolutely terrorizes those chaos worlds- he sacked them untill he arrived at Khorne's world which was empty for some reason which really pissed him off, so he and his boys started shooting up the ground. this caused Khorne's demons to come out and start attacking so Tuska resumed the usual slaughter. he was kicking the daemon ass so hard that they had to send out a demon prince who eventually managed to shank Tuska with his sword. before he died Tuska crushed the prince's testicles with his power claw. this was not the end for Tuska though, Khorne liked him so much that he dragged him and his boys to be resurrected and fight his demons for all eternity. so basically ork heaven. Tuska still fights daemons in Khorne's realm to this day. hes also probably insanely strong because of all the fighting so when, not if, when he escapes he will probably cuck the entire galaxy into submission.

 No.31531

>>30818
> The Codex Anti-Dühring makes it clear, there can be no tolerance for commodity production!

 No.31548

>>5242
>Annoying how the biggest collection of art books are porn sites.
Honestly E-Hentai is the best art site on the internet. I find so much obscure art books there, often going back to like the 1970s. It's god send for classic fantasy art from the 70s and 80s.

 No.31551

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>>31548
It sucks that this is the case. Copyright has been a disaster for art distribution. And those luddites dare to get mad when people had enough and use AI to create fan works.

 No.31552

>>31551
Yeah but what about artists who will starve now that their jobs have been automated?

 No.31559

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>>31552
Luddites said the same about the fabric industry. To this day more clothes are made in sweat shops by human hands than ever before. People will use AI art for the mundane like advertising and macros, but like modern artisans, hand made stuff will always be more valuable if they are higher quality. Not to mention the huge avenue opened to artists fixing AI art while letting the machine do the grunt sketch work.
Artists against AIs are reactionaries.

 No.31560

>>31559
The Luddites were unironically correct though. They were just off by a couple centuries. Even the neoliberals admit in their studies that automation is responsible for many job losses. Much of the "tech industry" are just disguised automation of workers in order to increase competitive pressure and unemployment - like how Uber destroyed unionized taxi drivers and forced a race to the bottom.

 No.31562

>>31560
Butting in. While luddites might be right in general sense, their class position (guild-based) meant they were destined to lose. Modern proletariat being again automation is qualitatively different breed.

Also, I don't think proles fight to turn back the clock of time. I am uneable to explain it properly though.

 No.31568

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 No.31575

>>31560
>Artisan are right
<I'm not feudalist I swear!!!
(((you)))

 No.31576

>>31575
>Acknowledging that the Luddites were right about automation destroying jobs means you have to support feudalism
wow anon please continue to show us how to play your favorite game

 No.31580

>>31560
>automation is responsible for many job losses.
I don't think that's actually true. A socialist society would employ everybody, and the advances in automation would be used to reduce the work-day, make people work 6 hours instead of 8 to 10.
Some of the economic automation bonus would also be spend on raising the level of ambition for certain projects.
I think job-loss is a capitalist thing, not a technology thing.

Only capitalists seek to replace workers with automation. A socialist society would see automation as a way to increase the productivity of workers. Which is a more realistic goal.

What the capitalists are doing doesn't make much sense because they are trying to proletarianize capital it self. It doesn't actually end the class struggle. If they make machines that can do all the things that workers can do, they will have created machine workers with the same class interests. Class struggle transcends the substrate.

Also the capitalists aren't really investing much into technological advances anymore, so the future isn't racing towards us anymore, it's a really slow crawl.

 No.31581

>>31580
>machine workers
??? no,they would just devalue the rate of profit by replacing labor with dead labor,since the machines are capital themselves. (or in non marxist terms,they are destroying the loop of the economy by producing commodities that nobody can buy because of no wages)
Class struggle doesn't transcend humanity or sentience,that would be twisting Marx's writing in the weirdest way I've read so far.

 No.31582

>>31581
>no,they would just devalue the rate of profit by replacing labor with dead labor,since the machines are capital themselves.
>they are destroying the loop of the economy
It depends, if machines don't reproduce, then yes it's just going to be dead labor. Eventually all the machines will be depreciated and the hole thing winds down like a clockwork that nobody is winding up anymore.
However if the capitalists could manage to make the machines reproduce them self, the machines would stop being capital and they would become workers.
Humans are biological machines that produce all the things in the economy and they also reproduce them selves. If the workers didn't make new workers there could not be economic surplus.

>Class struggle doesn't

Of course class struggle is not limited to humans. I doubt you could make non-sentient machines that can do all the things that workers do. If you make the machines reproduce all the abilities of workers, you'll end up reproducing the mental processes that workers have as well.

 No.31583

>>31582
Ah yes, Hegel's Master Slave dialectic is pertinent here


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