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Thread to discuss ancient concepts and ideas on past Edens. The idea of the demiurge and the "heretical" concepts many early gnostic Jews had of Jesus, Satan etc. are the first things many people think of when the subject of Gnosticism is breached. To me however all that stuff is secondary. The primary focus of Gnostic worldcoew is the Spirit/Soul dichotomy and how it relates to the Universe and the afterlife.
<Gnosticism is not about belief. "Gnosis" is the greek word for knowledge, and the entire endeavor of Gnosticism is to acquire true knowledge, of the Self and where we come from.
In Gnostic texts Jesus doesn't teach you to believe anything, he simply says to examine yourself.
>Protip, anyone who's trying to gatekeep Gnosticism is probably just a Christian (read: circumcised psychopaths who love the demiurge) who doesn't want Gnostics to grow in number.

Oh fuck! I knew i shouldn't have posted that Mani pic in the atheism thread. Anyways:
>The primary focus of Gnostic worldcoew is the Spirit/Soul dichotomy and how it relates to the Universe and the afterlife.
I strongly agree and also think the strongest thread tying Gnosticism as a group of post-Christian religions to its rediscovery by modern occultists is the Pauline trichotomy of man. In this modern context the supremacy of pneumos over psykos and soma entails a radically individualist spirituality, something that i see echoed especially viscerally in "The Forbidden Religion". Yet as opposed to solipsism, it is exprient only as realized through the overcoming of affect in thought.

Where do you see the barriers between spirit and soul. Is thought a spiritual act, can we grasp the spirit by rational means, is it outside the reach of regular consciousness, or is it subjectivity itself? There are probably a lot of answers to these in the Western occult tradition, but i'm still in the process of learning Latin.

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my god anon, this is spiritual dynamite.

In Gnostic texts Jesus doesn't teach you to believe anything, he simply says to examine yourself.
>examine yourself, and learn who you are, in what way you exist, and how you will come to be.
>For he who has not known himself has known nothing, but he who has known himself has at the same time already achieved knowledge about the depth of the all.


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