No.5448
I like some bits but it feels too DeviantArt'y and for this kind of folks who would be crazy about 'nightmare before christmas' in the early 00s
No.5451
It got overtaken by helltaker.
No.5452
>>5447I don't know anything about it other than the fact that some creepy women hating co posters want to have beat up this character and also may or may not want to have sex with her.
No.5459
>>5453never noticed that assad had blue eyes, is he not a native syrian?
No.5460
>>5459some arabs just have blue eyes, the idea that he isn't a native syrian is sectarian shit meant to disparage Alawites
No.5461
>>5451You could make unholy Hazbin-HT thread alliance
No.5463
>>5452Is she Armenian by chance?
Because she is doing the same to female characters of a Netherlandish kickstarter cartoon.
No.5464
>>5452What is with those people? Also yes of course they want to have sex with her (or just in general).
No.5465
>>5447One of the worst shit I've ever seen. Literally Disney but with "Fuck" and Sex Jokes. White Girl level humor. Pure Garbage. Haram/10
No.5466
>>5465I do not understand one thing tho. That people say Helluva boss is better when is obviously even less funnier and dull than Hazbin Hotel
No.5471
>>5470>BigheadPost that loathesome cringe elsewhere… like /co/
No.5473
>>5465>white girl humorgood
>haramhave sex incel
No.5482
>>5478>jerk it to vague 2D shapes that our brain forms into a face with extra limbsOk
No.5484
>>54822D cartoons are unironically hotter than 3D pig disgusting trash because 2D lets your brain fill in all the details with your perfect idea of attractiveness
No.5508
>>5447The plot is that hell is too overpopulated right? Yet it's apparently possible to permanently murder people in hell. But it's already the afterlife? Where do they go?
>>5478Is he a tranny? Why does he have breasts?
No.5511
>>5484>2D lets your brain fill in all the details with your perfect idea of attractivenesshow's about i fill in your ass with my arachnidick?
No.5581
I'd violently assfuck Charlie
No.5583
>>5508Why does he have breasts?
It's a puff of chest hair. Plenty of muscular dudes can squeeze their pecs to look like tiny tits.
No.5584
>>5581>>5582Take this horny-posting to /GET/ you absolute cringelords
No.5585
>>5581I'd violently assfuck you anon. Post cheeks.
No.5587
>The creator
I only vaguely know there is supposedly some kinda drama.
The show seems pretty fun, wish they could continue the show. Visuals are interesting though the animation isnt exactly as good as the linework (though thats to be expected in an independent webcartoon).
No.5598
When does the rest of the shows come out, I've only ever seen the pilot
No.5840
>>5447I loved it and Alastor was my favorite character followed by the spider. Obviously the drawings are way too complex to keep up a good pace for animating it all, and everything's too colorful and cluttered, so in that regard Helluva Boss was better (except the human kid which looks like something out of a John K cartoon, it's absolutely jarring)
>>5465>White Girl level humorBut the creator is a Latina???
>>5587>I only vaguely know there is supposedly some kinda drama.As far as I could tell, that drama was based on absolutely nothing (like her drawing some internet celebrities that turned out to be "problematic", years ago, or her edgy representation of LGBT characters in hell being seen as "homophobic" somehow)
I see no reason not to support her.
>>5508>Is he a tranny? Why does he have breasts?Not trans as far as we know, he's a (gay?) male prostitute. So basically a twink.
No.5841
>>5598I remember reading that it won't come out unless some big studio picks it up. But it appears that a new episode may also come out this or next year.
No.5850
> Re: The creator
some nonsense about her "stealing an art style" from someone else. but she was just inspired by another artist before developing her own style. normal creative stuff.
No.6424
I remember when this first started and the animator Vivzie was excited about starting it.
No.6435
>>10508
>art depth that goes from 0 to 13, 0 = 12 oz mouse and 13 =
>Problem Solvers
What kind of art quality scale is that.
No.8926
how can a show only have 1 episode? then its not a show!
No.8927
>>8925'Very bad people'
Jeez, could they be a bit more specific before they level accusations like this?
No.8928
>>8927By very bad people they mean someone who said the n word in a joke 6 years ago
No.8933
>>8925>pedophiles>art industryIf this was proven true that wouldn't even be surprising. And "very bad people"? Come on.
I've had several conversations with liberals and idpol leftists about artists and what do to about them if they hold problematic views (not talking about convicted criminals like Polanski). When it comes to fiction I can't stand this search for purity, great artists are often terrible people but you can't deny how important their art is. It's sad to hear educated petit-bourgeois wanting to cancel current geniuses once their culture is already built upon books and movies made by classical reactionaries. (although it's not the same when a random animator said the n-word I guess)
No.8934
>>5451Trash-tier: Hazbin, Helluva Boss
Coomer-tier: Helltaker
Okay-tier: Satina
No.8935
>>5451Never heard of it. It looks so much more generic, surely it's not the material that could eclipse hazbin.
No.8939
>>8934Satina is nice, the creators seem chill. It's sad that the only series with traditional animation and not flash shit are independant.
No.8940
>>8935>Never heard of it<It looks so much more generic
Muh dude. Hazbin and most of Vizies shit only look good for a stroke victim.
No.8943
>>8940Generic anime doesn't look good to me either. This is at least fresh and different.
No.8948
>>5447I
enjoyed it and hope they make more No.8972
>>8948me too. It has a charming style in my opinion, the colorscheme is nice to me too.
No.9071
Angel Dust sucks
No.9073
>>9072No he's a bad character
No.9078
>>9073eh, prolly, I think he'll get fleshed out more as the series goes on
No.11209
>>11197If I remember correctly the "pedophile" claims are because some of the artists (including vivie) have drawn shota/loli and normies are moralfagging about it.
I also think it's hilarious how they're bitching about the gay spider not being good representation when 99% of the shows popularity and merchandise sales come from gays loving the character. It also wouldn't surprise me if it's less about the representation of homosexuals, and more that a gay character who doesn't care about political correctness ruins their SJW-esque narrative.
No.11210
>>11209>If I remember correctly the "pedophile" claims are because some of the artists (including vivie) have drawn shota/loli and normies are moralfagging about it.This wouldn't surprise me. It's not my cup of tea, but I also know artists draw a lot of weird shit.
>I also think it's hilarious how they're bitching about the gay spider not being good representation when 99% of the shows popularity and merchandise sales come from gays loving the character. It also wouldn't surprise me if it's less about the representation of homosexuals, and more that a gay character who doesn't care about political correctness ruins their SJW-esque narrative.This. But it also strikes me as missing the fairly obvious jab at Christianity and Abrahamism in general. God (heh) forbid these people should be against the Church or anything like that.
No.11212
>>8925>1. the character vaggie is supposed to be the angry latina stereotype.Who gives a shit. Also Vivzie is a Latine.
t. Latina
>2He's certainly represented in a more favorable way than all the non-gay evil demons in the cartoon's universe. Basically the criticisms boil down to him being promiscuous (just like all the other citizens of Hell, but critics say this character is just portraying all gays as stereotypically slutty and sinners) and the
supposed implication that he's eventually going to redeem himself by not being gay anymore (because gayness=promiscuity obviously), as if the creator meant that being gay is a sin or something. Nevermind the fact that the two [b]good[/b] main characters are lesbian lovers. I guess by making Angel Dust an important character and giving him some redeeming and humane qualities Vivzie shoot herself in the foot. Again these people find whatever excuse they can to create drama.
>3, 4>it is confirmedRead: rumors that have already been debunked or very minor offenses that she's not really at fault.
https://kirain.tumblr.com/post/188863354586/hazbin-hotel-and-vivziepop-drama Unless that screenshot is referring to new accusations since then, this link addresses most of these rumors, including the loli/shota thing and "plagiarism". Other than Chris Niosi I don't recall any other alleged pedophile or "very bad people" that she was accused of associating with.
No.11394
>>11324Yeah, that one's completely true, Vivzie drew her and judging by the screenshot she was aware of that joke, though it's not clear if she knew before or after drawing the fanart (if she found out in that tweet, she probably didn't process the gravity of the "joke" immediately). However this was years ago and she doesn't seem to support her and others like her anymore; she was probably just too tolerant of that kind of people for childish reasons, whether that was temporary anti-SJW-ism, edginess, or naivete, not genuinely bad intentions. And yes, it was addressed in the link, under "supports problematic creators" where she apologizes, because it looks like this Blaire White wasn't the only retard she was criticized for supporting.
No.11563
>>5511>>5511Don’t threaten me with a good time.
No.11651
>the faggot has the most fanart
Say about her whatever you want, but she certainly knows her audience
No.13399
<HELLUVA BOSS - Loo Loo Land // S1: Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpnwRg268FQthoughts?
No.13400
>>13399Helluva Boss is the better Hazbin Hotel.
No.13406
>>13400it's had actual episodes at least. I feel like the writing in this latest episode is a bit lacking
No.13424
retarded
No.18718
>How do you feel about it?
Watched the pilot and enjoyed it. Visually excellent. Unironically better than most televised competitors.
>(and its creator)
Don't know don't care.
Gave Maxwell Atoms a cameo so must be at least a bit based.
No.18726
>>5840>I only vaguely know there is supposedly some kinda drama.She drew nsfw-ish art of her 17 year old oc implied that he is fucking snakes and fetish bdsm art with them, far as i can recall
No.18732
Over-rated and boring outside of a few clips and gags. The fact that it also attracts a lot of mentally ill fans projecting themselves onto the show is also pretty shit.
No.18733
>>8925Because it's all liberal whining at best with only the pedoshit having any relevance (and even then it's without context, as I doubt vivzie was aware of it at the time of production. I'm not a fan of this show, but making shit up to attack it, is pretty gay
No.18747
>>18726She also drew two of her OCs interacting in a non-canon situation, a minor and a pedophile degenerate, but she clearly portrayed the pedo as creepy and dangerous.
No.18809
>>18799>not a single solitary anon obliges, even after eight months Because people don't feel like it? OP wasn't complaining either.
No.18822
Watched it. I'm not interested in bitching about the script, but the Hazbin Hotel trailer is a drag and it only gets "okay" halfway after the Disney parody shit.
However, her other work, Helluva Boss, is actually pretty good and has a much better flow.tankieTankie
No.18854
new Helluva Boss coming very soon. get hype
No.18864
>>18799
>Charlie5 I've never been so down bad for a demon in office attire.
>>18803
>Charlie22I like this one the most, all the classic demons getting the flyers :3
No.18890
>>1886422 is subversive. didn't notice it at first, but I like it and it puts Charlie's plan in its place
No.24742
>>13411stolas is top tier
No.24745
>>5465This
Also it’s been half a decade and there is like, what, four videos?
How do people get obsessed with something with so little content…
No.24751
>>24745You just have to appeal to the right group of people, and then they will basically make the show for you with OC
No.27329
Animation style is ugly, humor is lazy, and it tries to be edgy while saying nothing noteworthy or important.
In essence, its everything weebs and redditors love.
No.27332
>>27328my friend anthony wyatt was an animator in it
No.27333
>>27331why would it matter
No.27334
>>27331Biology is RNG. Sometimes all someone's testosterone goes to one place, or is high everywhere except particular spots.
No.27422
>>27334I get the feeling it's just to piss poltards off
No.29012
first for arachnocommunism
second for just use the leftyco and furry threads you douchebag
third for atoms
/thread
No.29016
>>29011We are claiming this thread as the new /co/ thread
where do i watch hazbin, i heard it's fully free on youtube by the creators or something No.29018
>>29016Hazbin is currently just a pilot and some accesory animations and [two iirc] little comics released by the creator atm.
But yes the Hazbin pilot, and all of Helluva boss is available on vivziepops YouTube channel
https://www.youtube.com/c/SpindleHorse No.29020
>>29018nice
im gonna watch it in halloween, it's a spooky kind of show, right?
No.29063
>>29023that's the true spirit of halloween
witches and demons and hell
makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside
No.29070
>>29069why
also what do you think they drew that in digital
No.30667
If this comment gets 100 replies I will make a Marxist analysis of Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss and post it to YouTube
No.30690
stolas =3
No.30749
so this is like the good place but animated?
what happened to hazbin? there's episodes for helluva but only a pilot for hazbin?
how did it get popular then
also the radio demon is totally what i would do too if i got powers, jjust broadcast defeating the old gods
No.30793
>>30667>If this comment gets 100 replies I will make a Marxist analysis of Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss and post it to YouTube<only 7 repliesToo bad
No.30825
>>30794Actually there is a deadline, that deadline being the day Hazbin Hotel finally releases
No.36285
>>36247A24 canceled hazbin hotel because uh ari aster got into a fist fight with vivzie at a party in my house
No.36289
>>36285 >ari aster got into a fist fight with vivzie at a party in my house>in my houseHold up.
No.39244
>>5447It now forever associates with porn in my brain after that 50k incident.
>>18800CHIIIKIII BRIIIKIII!!
No.39245
>>29069He reminds me of Ryuk from Death Note.
No.39249
>>39244>It now forever associates with porn in my brain after that 50k incident.even worse he's also exposed himself as a disgusting
>no hooves enjoyer
No.39251
>>30667>If this comment gets 100 replies I will make a Marxist analysis of Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss and post it to YouTubeThis is bait… but I'll take it on the off-chance of it habbening
No.39254
>>39248I wouldn't say it's great. The animation is a downgrade from the pilot, but I kind of expected that. 8 episodes is way too short and it makes the story just rush on by. It makes the character development, which seems like the entire point of the show, feel really cheap.
I like the characters though and the angle of idealism overcoming cynicism. The music is fun too. At first I didn't really care for it, but it grew on me pretty quickly. Overall it's just a really fun show and the biggest detriment against it is just that the fun is over too soon.
>Like just say you don’t like it, why make up morality based excuses for not consuming certain things!Yeah, there's this weird current where it's like "actually there IS ethical consumption under capitalism and if you're not consuming ethically then you're a white colonialist gaslighting abuser based on the popular culture you consume." Like I saw someone say that they hated HH because it was homophobic and transphobic because uhhhh it equates gay people with mass murderers because gay people were in hell. If you don't like something it's whatever but for some reason you're only allowed to not like something if it's for the right reasons, otherwise you dislike it for the wrong reasons which makes you a bad person also. It's insane.
No.39256
>>30667>667Damn, one off from >>30666
No.39257
>>39248>Like just say you don’t like it I just don't like it so I never watched it, hell I only know about it because its so well-known and because I used to follow Vivzie's projects, dunno about the 12 year olds, but there's always people wanting to justify themselves for disliking something.
>>30667 Here's another
No.39357
Man I've been watching Helluva Boss and literally every male character is a giant faggot, I love it. Mad respect to Vizzie or whatever for getting the money to make this shit. The humor is a bit over the top and I don't really like all the murder shit but otherwise enjoying it, I see why this series is such porn bait now.
No.39427
not for me, but happy that 2d animators are getting work.
No.39451
>>39248Yeah the humor is a little juvenile and misses a lot of the time, the overuse of swearing (especially in certain songs where it seems just shoehorned in) is annoying. The characters are great though, they are entertaining, endearing, and have great chemistry. I really care about them and want to see them succeed, and they leave enough mystery surrounding certain characters (like Alastor) that the audience is left wanting a lot more. Personally I can't wait for the next season.
No.39470
>>39451>overuse of swearinggo back to twitter
it has no more swearing then any other 2000's to 2010 adult cartoon
No.39471
>>39470It's just lazy, swears are more funny if they're rare ish
No.39472
>>39471>It's just lazyIt's neutral
It's was a common style back in day, that doesn't really change anything
it isn't any different and so far has less swearing
Twitter users are overrating or making shit up just to bitch about it
No.39473
>>39472south park is hardly a good example anon, it's bottom of the barrel shit
No.39475
>>39473>south park is hardly a good example anon>good example It's the more accurate example for the 2000's
No.39476
>>39475I mean ok I never said it wasn't common I just said it was bad
No.39477
>>39476twitter
niigas just need say they just don't prefer the style rather then make bull points out there ass, it's bottom of the barrel shit
No.39478
>>39477>just need say they just don't prefer the style rather then make bull points out there asswelcome to internet discourse the past years, i hate it too
No.39479
>>39477>>39478it makes the show worse, in my opinion, chill man its not like i said the show was evil
No.39480
>>39479It's still a inaccurate point made just to justify to be negative with the show. Like twitter users addiction to be negative on anything else.
No.39483
>>39470It doesn't really bother me in the dialogue, but it feels out of place in some of the songs.
No.39484
>>39480Man will you stop whining, I like the show overall just think it could be better
No.39486
>>39484It could be a lot better. It's kind of shocking that after four years in development this is what we got, something with all the problems of the pilot but not the animation to make up for it.
No.39493
I miss Adam so much leftybros
No.39494
>>39493Bitch, maybe he'll show back up in hell.
No.39495
>>39484>Man will you stop whiningNo. I still hate twitter
No.39496
>>39495I don't even have a twitter
No.39498
>>39496Yet you still spout the same shit that a twitter user vomits out like a
commentary youtuber.
No.39512
Full power to Vivziepop for making Amazon fund her broadway yaoi musical, on God bro.
No.39751
Man how did they manage to get such a blatant criticism of Israel made lol?
No.39779
>>39751I got that sense too lmao, or at least of imperialism in general. I doubt that was Vivzie's intention, but the parallels are too hard to ignore. Citizens of a prosperous world learn that their entire society is based on the periodic mass murder of the most vulnerable, wretched people in existence.
No.39858
>>39498Ok, I take it back I guess, I hadn't actually watched Hazbin Hotel at that point, I think the humor in it is a lot more even than in Helluva Boss which definitely does rely too much on swears and shit.
No.39919
test
No.39937
genuinely the most horrid color composition ive seen in a big cartoon
No.39942
>>39937how so? I think all of the main characters look good, only some side ones look silly (like whoever that sparkledog furry overlord is)
No.39952
>>39942it's mostly about the environment for me rather than the characters individually
most things are red and everything just blends in
No.39957
Is it even worth watching? I heard about it a long time ago and now it’s out or what
No.39979
>>39957IMO yeah it's worth watching, not amazing but fun enough, not that much yaoi like Helluva Boss but oh well
No.39989
>>39979Might give it a watch. I heard some moron spent 40k on some fanfic tier animation of him getting bonked by that girl or whatever
No.40005
>>39989It was actually more like $50k, but yeah, pretty silly. I don't even get why anyone would hold a torch for Charlie, she's a pretty boring character with a boring design, even Twilight Sparkle had more depth IMO.
No.40007
>>40005Yeah but like even if she was ultra Omgsisa who in their right mind spends that kind of money on basically a fucking mp4 clip
No.40008
>>40007Well in somewhat fairness to the guy, he ran a YT channel and he claimed to somewhat have plans to use the animation as YT content, but it seems like a pretty dumb idea overall, and I guess he realised that
No.40038
>>39351can someone give me (never watched past the pilot) the background?
No.40052
>>40038I mean the pilot basically explains the plot, IMO it's an obvious commentary on Israel/imperialism. The show obviously has liberal characteristics but in the finale
they organise some of the denizens of hell to fight off the angel hordes and kill Adam No.40061
>>40052>IMO it's an obvious commentary on Israel/imperialismThe parallels are there but I have a hard time believing that this was what Vivzie had in mind.
No.40100
Months late to this party but what the hell was this drama about 50K and Verbalese relative to Vivzie Pop?
No.40102
>>40101When he commissioned this did he know that Charlie is gay?
No.40103
>>40102He allegedly did not know that, so he might have commissioned this animation without even knowing much about the character, since her gayness is like one of the few traits she has.
No.40105
>>40103What if she's bi? Although it wouldn't make sense for her to make out with Verbalese anyway.
No.40106
>>40101It is a really neat little video. I feel like 20 years ago it would be the kind of thing uploaded in 30 second segments on some insane person's website as he works on this personal project because of devotion to his clown demon waifu.
No.40122
>>40102Seriously, two of the trends in the 2D porn industry which peeve me the most are:
>flat character given watermelon tits or samebody>gay character slamming puss/lesbian character taking dicks for no reasonIt's just a basic violation of the character. Hit me all you want with 'its art they can reinterpret it how they want' et cetera, I still feel the same way - it's critically lazy, degrading to the creativity of the character and I don't enjoy seeing it.
>>40106Self-inserts are just pathetic. I can't get past for my personal enjoyment that unless it's exceptionally creative or bizarre. But hey, glad you can enjoy it.
No.40133
>>40122>gay character slamming puss/lesbian character taking dicks for no reasonLOL, it's porn, do you really think anyone cares about that? And by that metric why aren't you angry about 2D porn having straight characters be gay? I've even seen the latter done out of pure spite for the rest of a fandom.
It sounds like you're projecting your own internalized insecurities here. And no, I'm not saying its about artistic reinterpretation, because porn - unless it's some truly well made stuff - isn't art. And fuck the "degrading" to the character's creativity; it's fucking porn, that in itself is degrading to a character's creativity, so your point is moot.
>>40102Do you think he'd care? It's a fictional character the appearance of which just appealed to his dumb ass. These things have never stopped people before from doing that or the reverse; just look at all the yaoi fanfiction and fanart of any popular anime where canonically straight characters are made gay for the sake of the 34th Rule?
No.40134
>>40106The animation is only good by the standards of 20 years ago. For 50K and for today's standards of indie animation this is mediocre as fuck and feels lifeless and forced, like a lot of commission works usually do.
Also, found this in
>>>/siberia_archive/10491 because I remembered there was a /siberia/ thread about it.
>>40122>Self-inserts are just pathetic. I can't get past for my personal enjoyment that unless it's exceptionally creative or bizarre. NTA but this I agree with.
No.40145
>>40133>because porn - unless it's some truly well made stuff - isn't artThat sort of thinking has always bothered me a bit. The subject matter shouldn't bar something from being art. Granted most porn is extraordinarily bad art, but that doesn't make it not art.
No.40162
>>40145The intent behind it plays a lot.
Porn can be art if it at least to say something, anything, if only a purely esthetic statement.
Most porn don't try to go further than basic sexual stimulation. And why would producers even try to purt more thought and effort than what's needed to make pp hard since that is exactly why most people consume porn.
No.40163
>>40134What kind of dunce did the math here? Or is intentionally wrong calculation the new standard of humor now?
No.40169
>>40168I think VivziePop doesn't like metal much. WHY DON'T OTHER PEOPLE LIKE COOL THINGS!!?
No.40171
>>40122Self-inserts don't even make sense plot-wise. Like, why is the self-insert there? What did the girl find in him? How likely are they to make out? How likely are they to meet in the first place? What was their backstory?
Also, the wish fulfillment aspect is cringe and the writing is bound to be at a level of an amateur fanfic.
No.40172
>>40168that's one tasty riff
No.40173
>>40122>flat character given watermelon tits or samebodyConventional body standards, mah fella.
>gay character slamming puss/lesbian character taking dicks for no reasonWish fulfillment, mah fella. Unless it's some thinly-veiled heteronormativity.
No.40174
>>40171Pea brain: Self insert as the MC's love interest.
Medium brain: Self insert as the MC
Galaxy brain: Self insert as both the MC and their love interest
No.40175
>>40162>And why would producers even try to purt more thought and effort than what's needed to make pp hard since that is exactly why most people consume porn.Because pure vulgarity doesn't make my pp hard, it's just gross. I'd prefer some soft erotica to some disgusting hardcore porn any day of the week. I don't care if the latter is more "realistic," maybe I never really wanted real sex in the first place.
No.40176
>>40174Kissing oneself through a proxy.
No.40177
>>40175Unfortunately for one guy like you there are one hundred undiscriminating coomers, so until you commission or make stuff yourself, you're stuck pearl diving in an ocean of shit.
No.40178
>>40175 (me)
Also, aesthetic beauty depends on one's perspective and standards. First a Slaaneshi may draw beautiful paintings. Then they'll try to do the same with someone's blood. But hey, to them it's beautiful, people would just be too horrified to enjoy this beauty. People have different thresholds and criterias of what they consider beautiful, which is also often influenced by appeal to majority and appeal to authority: general consensus and opinions of "esthetes," "gourmants," "critics" and other "intellectuals."
No.40179
>>40177I suffer a severe emotional pain every time I go on a Rule 34 site.
No.40199
>>40133>LOL, it's porn, do you really think anyone cares about that?I know for a fact people do. Why do you think I wrote that post, to pretend to care? Ha.
Stopped reading there.
No.40208
>>40168I'm afraid that over half of people don't like metal, it's just not as marketable as generic pop. TBH it's a shame that more of the songs in Hazbin aren't better TBH, the only ones I've saved in my playlist are Respectless (only narrowly made it in due to catchy tune), Inside of Every Demon, Finale, You Didn't Know, Hell's Greatest Dad, Loser Baby, Poison, Stayed Gone and Hell is Forever, that's a fair few but it's less than half the songs.
No.40209
>>40208Why are people so boring? Why can't they be edgelords like me? Sad.
No.40210
>>40199>People care about it, I careMost people do not, because most people aren't retarded enough to do that
>stopped readingThanks for proving my point.
No.40212
>>40209Sorry anon. It just sounds grating to a lot of people.
Speaking of boring, all of Charlie's songs are bad except for the one in the pilot, why couldn't they keep her manic and slightly deranged energy from that into the actual show? Harmonist doesn't have to mean lame.
No.40233
Also one thing I noticed, they described Adam as the first human to enter Heaven, which makes me wonder, what happened to Abel?
No.40236
>>40212THIS, Charlie's songs are medicore. You could feel it the most in the first episode, where you get a banger that is "hell is forever" and weak-ass shit-bait that is "Happy Day in Hell'.
Only moment where Charlie is strong singer is the duets like "You didn't know"
No.40238
>>40233If it sucks off Divine Comedy as hard with it as it does with everything else, then Abel too was raised to heaven by Jesus. So at best he got there at the same time as Adam. Remember, no heaven pre-jesus for anyone.
No.40240
>>40133What a stupid post. Hope you were high.
No.40268
>>40246The 'music video' contributes to me liking the song.
No.40270
>>40268I like the part where Blitz calls him a bitch lmao.
No.40271
just watched it, twas ok, but yeah most of the songs are mediocre, the disney shit is… disney shit. Basically the best is the first adam one, with the radio demon vs vid demon close second. Most good songs were the duel ones when I think about it, radio demon vs lucifer was kinda cool too, and the #bitch vs overlords. But the played straight disney shit was just booooriiiing ear sore (the arms dealer singing about fighting with love was SO cringe). Cant imagine recommending this.
(just remembered the we're all loosers one, which was good and felt more like a good disney parody)
The theme is interesting enough, poking fun at the heaven/hell inherent contradiction (so we're the good guys but we just let the bad suffer forever and even indulge in some mass random killing, and in hell you play your cards right and you can get super powerful and indulge and enjoy your evil), as we get one guy get actually redeemed im pretty curious to see if adam end up in hell.
Although Im actually more interested in the power dynamics and politics of hell (well i just like politicking in series). The video vs radio rivalry was pretty good, and I like the theme of newer vices like tv radio and social media being the new power in hell and shitting on old demons.
The transition from "let try to redeem some demons" to "those crazy angel fucks are hellbent on slaughtering us, lets make a stand and fuck them up" felt good. But a bit disappointing to have daddy lucifer come and handle everything in the end and back to plan 1.
They seem to have some clear outline for the follow up of the story at least, with lilith coming back (and a deal being broken… stop organizing hell to fight back and you get to enjoy heaven beaches?) and being hinted at having alastor on leash (which finally give a good explanation for why he help with the hotel thing, and having a favor with the daughter should help him get freed)
Oh and I liked the art mostly.
Hope theres more to the theme "being good is actually fighting back for whats right"
No.40273
>>40271Yesterday I wrote I liked Hazbin more than Helluva Boss, but today after watching the second season of the latter, I retract that statement. Hazbin feels more constrained and by-the-numbers, probably due to being published by Prime, so there might have been some meddling. Helluva Boss on the other hand is so unapologetically horny, but also has more hearth, the romance between Blitz and his sugar daddy is more nuanced than anything in Hazbin.
No.40292
>>40280I mean IMP literally kills people for money, but then again they know that the afterlife is real so that changes the morality of killing humans I think. Most of the hellborn demons do seem pretty shitty to each other, or at least tend towards the sins of the ring they're from. Imps are shown as being obsessed with violence (wrath), succubi are always horny (lust), the shark people from greed seem heavily involved with theft and fraud, etc. Still though, they definitely made an effort to at least make the main characters likable and that requires them to not be total monsters despite being literal hellspawn.
No.40293
>>40280LUCIFERDIDNUFFINWRONG
<Jehovah, who of all the good gods adored by men was certainly the most jealous, the most vain, the most ferocious, the most unjust, the most bloodthirsty, the most despotic, and the most hostile to human dignity and liberty — Jehovah had just created Adam and Eve, to satisfy we know not what caprice; no doubt to while away his time, which must weigh heavy on his hands in his eternal egoistic solitude, or that he might have some new slaves. He generously placed at their disposal the whole earth, with all its fruits and animals, and set but a single limit to this complete enjoyment. He expressly forbade them from touching the fruit of the tree of knowledge. He wished, therefore, that man, destitute of all understanding of himself, should remain an eternal beast, ever on all-fours before the eternal God, his creator and his master. But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial ignorance and obedience; he emancipates him, stamps upon his brow the seal of liberty and humanity, in urging him to disobey and eat of the fruit of knowledge. No.40303
>>40293big ups to my boy satan
No.40304
>>40303Thats a different character from Lucifer.
No.40338
Too high to find the post talking about the music.
I wasn't in love with it at first. Charlie's song in the first episode really didn't grab me. Her as a character really doesn't grab my either tbh. She's just sweet? That's fine. She and her songs are fine, but just.
Everyone else's songs kind of grew on me though. I kind of have to set aside Keith David though because he's in a league of his own as a voice actor. I don't feel like he does anything special in this, but as always the man is a pleasure to listen to. That's a gift from god, right there. He's the sort of person that companies should be training AIs on, because that's the platonic ideal of a Man's Voice. It definitely helps though that he is an exceptional actor. He's Goliath in the Gargoyles cartoon, and you get to listen to David get really theatrical with his deliveries, real fun.
So it was hearing You're a Loser over and over again that got me listening to the other songs repeatedly too, and the more I heard them the more they grew on me. Lucifer's song is a lot of fun too. The different qualities in Lucifer and Radio Demon's voice has a nice audio textural contrast? That's something it shares with Losers too I think.
Angel's voice is really weird. I kind of hate it, but I also kind of like it. It kind of feels like being scratched in the back of the sinus with a really long needle. It's vaguely uncomfortable but not exactly unpleasant or painful, but the itch it happens to scratch is pleasant.
Like his line "I'm a loser, honey, a schmoozer and a dummy," the way he says "a dummy" and "I'm not alone," it feels like it's way too high and sharp a note, like it should be an annoying sound, but the aural shape of it is overall pleasant.
No.40383
>>40382Mentally ill teenage girls are 𝖈𝖔𝖔𝖑 and 𝒶ℯ𝓈𝓉𝒽ℯ𝓉𝒾𝒸, representing free spirit rebelling against the dullness of the world. Teenage boys are just unfinished men, a raw unprocessed material yet to be turned into anything noteworthy.
Anyway, my point is it looks dogshit.
No.40385
>>40383Hard disagree with the sentiment about female youth and male youth.
Of course you would adore female youth. Hebegynophilia is an unfortunate msle pathology.
"Boys are defective men" but "girls are perfect women"?
No.40387
>>40386its not pedo. its hebe. hebegynophilia
No.40388
>>40385>Hebegynophilia I searched that word and it doesnt exist.
And yes, boys are defective until they make themselves undefective, which takes time and effort. Girls on the other hand are perfect in a sense that world is yet to crush their soul. Look at a group of teenagers, usually the girls will be dressed in an interesting expressive manner, while boys all look like shit. As they age men find their style, women lose theirs.
>>40386I am not making some redpill "wall" argument, I think the core of it lies in girls and women being more and faster socialized. So they are already civilized people while boys are still feral, but in adulthood that turns into oversocialisation and loss of individual uniqueness.
No.40390
>>40388Ypure only looking at a few. Girls are only valued for their physical beauty thays why. Boys are treated like comic relief and are pathologised for seeking beauty.
Also, I hang out with older people. Older men are kinda sloppy and overestimate their virtue.
Older women are the opposite.
Teenage girls are "perfect" because youre conditioned to look only at their physical beauty.
If you put young women in industrial situations, they tend to take the easy way out Theyre less willing to get heor hands dirty.
No.40391
>>40388Gilrs are socialised in their way boys are socialised their own way.
Boys are more athletic and active. Unfortuneatley our chivalric Anglo society pathologises this.
Girls are "socialised" by mere gossiping. But that doesnt mean theyre "civilised."
Its just that girls are given more sympathy.
If boys were to act like girls in terms of perfection you woukd pathologise them as "faggots".
No.40393
Shut the fuck up, girls and (homosexual) boys can enjoy this, and that 40k ripoff looks like shit
No.40411
>>40393>40k ripoff You understand what a parody is right?
No.40424
>>40393>that 40k ripoff looks like shitShow us something better then why don't you
No.40425
>>40411>You understand what a parody is right?40k is already a parody of itself, what more is needed
No.40426
>>40424>waah waah people don’t like a shitty cartoon about killing furries that got unfunny after the first timethat channel has been making the same “edgy” 40k cartoon for a decade if not more.
No.40428
>>40426It wasn't even funny the first time, like, can someone explain the joke to me?
No.40429
>>40426>waah waah people don’t like a shitty cartoon about killing furries that got unfunny after the first timeSo a) you didn't even watch the video and b) you have nothing to actually offer that's better
No.40442
>>40382Ok, upon watching the whole thing its kind of fun, its just the end sales pitch thats absolutely embarrassing.
No.40445
>>40442Kind of agree. I mean you gotta get that green but still.
Overall I think the animation is pretty good and I like the parody aspect. As a cartoon the second half kind of feels flatter than the first but it's fine overall. I'd like to see more.
No.40448
>>40445I want to see more as well, but I am skeptical whether the premise of "Warhammer 40K but even sillier" has enough potential to be stretched into an entire series.
No.40534
>>40382Flashgitz makes content(derogatory).
>>40428It was an early 4chan meme that they stole lmao.
No.40535
>>40534>It was an early 4chan meme that they stole lmao.I mean yeah the 'joke' is literally just 'hurhur furries should die'.
No.40539
They should make a helltaker anime.
No.40636
>>40382i'd rather watch starship troopers for the 6th time tbh
No.40637
>>40549We walked so that trollsonas and Hazbinners could run.
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