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It's that time again. Post trams and trains and other rail vehicles. Both vehicles from AES and c*pitalist countries welcome.I am looking for this one very aesthetic picture of a tram going down a grassy incline. I think it was from Czechoslovakia but not sure.


I really can't be arsed to make a new thread cause it auto-filled in the mod hash. Let it be known to everyone that the BO likes public transportation.


>>6036<Let it be known to everyone that the BO likes to get railed.based


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Post yfw aanrijding met persoon


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Some random stuff.


>>6038Kanker.Hang jezelf gewoon op als een normaal persoon, dat geeft minder rotzooi.


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Based Bolivian cable car public transport. For when your soil can't accommodate a metro and you don't want bourgeois bus rapid transit bullshit.




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>>6039>its a train>its a bus>its a railbusgenius! now post railplanes and railboats too!


>>6043under corbyn the lion will be a hammer and sickle


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>>6035In the Greater Pittsburgh Area we've the T (T standing for trolley) which does not cover the vast majority of the city and only has one really long line that goes through the suburbs to the county line; there is rolling farmland not a minute away from Library station. Most of the rail system is vestigial, because some people actually took action to prevent the autotards from tearing it all up. The current mayor of Pittsburgh (Dem) got elected on the promise of expanding the T at least to the universities of the city, but hasn't even done that. Instead he has decided to 'erect' a Bus Rapid Transit corridor. In short, we at least have something, but I'll be damned if the powers that B intend to let us have anything more.


>>6047I hate how people unironically think libshits are pro-transit when they just half-ass it and go for buses instead of trams.


>>6048honolulu light rail (coming in the next few years)


>>6039Don't post BART man I use it often, it's terrible and also overpriced.


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Lefty OpenTTD night time? Oh wait this shitty website doesn't even have a damn video games board.


>>6051there's a game thread >>27775 im more of an openxcom player


>>6038>dutch trains


>>6051nigga, we have /e/.


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the red rocket


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>>6035This is the Bergen Light rail. I read somewhere that Lichtenstein has free public transportation, and are about to legalize cannabis. I saw the same kind of trams in a video from Switzerland a while back, but I don't know what town.It's quite banal, public transportation. But it stimulates the economy. The Norwegian media is taunting the government, for their unsolicited mega expensive road upgrades with toll roads. What's more, the projects are outsorced to foreign disposable companies, when the money could have generated local jobs. Corruption, I call it, but if you talk about it, you're a marked man, socially. So the journalists make up indirect terms like smøring.The narrative has shifted towards northern rail expansion. It's been planned for over a hundred years, but it never really materialized. Road work is tricky because the soil warps when it freezes and thaws, and the bedrock is so hard. Rocks have also been falling quite a bit since the glaciers got fewer.These trams and the heavier (former) NSB locomotives, are completely electric, and powered by hydroelectric plants. The switching sounds from the motors fascinates me, so I'm doing a graduate degree in electronics. I've got a bit of cabin fever while waiting for the next semester to start, so I apologise for my verbosity.The current government has restructured the entire shebang into something called vy, whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean, and charged millions to do it. Privatization of the English rail system is still controversial, so they called it konkurranseutsetting - exposure to competition. Whatever lines their pockets.


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In the U.S trolleys got straight up demolished and everybody was forced to buy a car and then be in debt exactly because of that forced purchase


>>6049>tfw yuge mass transit bonds were one of the few good ideas obumma pushed>tfw most state governments actually refused the free money out of sheer spite


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>>6058Wisconsin here. Our governor vetoed a high speed train that would have gone from Chicago to Minneapolis in four and half hours. FOUR AND A HALF HOURS.Pic related is our consolation prize. It goes less than 15mph and its tracks only cover less than a quarter of the city, which is a geographically small to begin with for "major city" standards. The part of the city the streetcar covers are the wealthy areas, not where anyone actually has to go for work.Fuck Scott Walker.


>>6059I mean the state legislature is the problem.


>>6042Iirc, the SkyTrain uses a linear motor, which means the motor is actually split in two parts: an active part on board, driving the wheels, and a reactive part which is a kind of middle rail between the two where the wheels lay. The advantages are a smaller height of the train (which could save time and money if it's used as a subway by digging tunnels with a smaller radius), smaller weight and apparently they require much less maintenance than traditional rotary motors.A drawback is the high, screeching sound it makes - it's the same with low speed maglevs.>>6049Brought to you by Hitachi Rail Italy aka AnsaldoBreda, renowned for this product - which is pretty dope - but also one of the shittiest trams ever plus a nice scandal involving the clogs when they sold them "high speed" trains litterally falling apart while testing.Iirc, the body is designed by Pininfarina, which is a nice way to throw away money in the project and btw, white is uneasy on the eye…>>6056Those tram are made in Switzerland by Stadler, who is in part owned by an MP from a rightwing party…I think the shit they are doing with the railways is the same thing EU member states had to do, but I don't know if Norway is under any obligation to adapt its laws also in this sector.And the privatisation in the UK has been an unmitigated disaster, except for the profiteers obviously.>>6058Just another proof Burger republicans are subhuman tier.>>6059Abolish Wisconsin.>>6050All right!


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>>6047(0_0) Fellow Yinzer anon hello! We might have crossed paths at some point at one of the many leftist spots in the city. Thomas Merton Center, IWW meetings, Big Idea, etc. Anywho. I'm still waiting on that glorious spine line expansion out to Monroeville. I've always been jealous of folks in the south suburbs for having access to the train. It takes me 2 bloody hours to get into the city from where I'm at after after a 25 minute walk to the bus stop. https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~blelloch/spine.htmlImagine a fully expanded Pittsburgh subway/lightrail. I dream of it. I've also wondered if we could invent some form of light funicular to replace all the falling apart stairways around town.


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>>6062I'm zoomer and have only been on leftypol a few months so I haven't really been politically active in person; I ought to get more involved.I wish I lived in proximity to the southward (only) line of the T, but those stations really do drive the property value up an exorbitant amount; it still is quicker to get there from Clairton of course and makes an easier ride to the city.Clearly no Republicrat mayor is ever actually gonna expand the T, they'll just keep adding bus at most. A proper Socialist would of course be ideal, but I figure if one of these rising DSA or some manner of progressive Dem would be elected, they would actually expand it in some capacity.Looking at this old light rail and interurban map never fails to piss me off however. The entire goddamn area was well and covered, and it all got torn up completely. To be replaced with some 'lovely' and 'fun-to-navigate' highway.Part of me would hope that the coming crisis of capital would cause the construction of more light rail solutions, seeing as cars and oil will should be considerably less affordable. And I do believe that rail was at its maximum in the depression and WWII, despite the rapid rise of the automobile during the 20s. May well serve as some hope in spite of the despair.


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>>6035First two are how the trains look nowThird is during Tito Even though we have some "new" trains here these days, the railway and the trains in Serbia have been left to rust with barely any funding (and what funding they did get went into the pockets of a few individuals)The trains in Serbia now go with the speed of 20-30 km/h Sometimes when I go to Belgrade it takes me fucking 7hours on the train, while I can easily get there in 2 on the highway or around 3 by bus.


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>>6064Meanwhile in Communist China there are choo choo trains still running goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZMnAvss89o


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>>6063We might well see a DSA mayor if the political situation here in the US continues to deteriorate. I'm cautiously supportive of them and hope they don't become the new democrats.That said comrade get involved if you feel ready and interested enough! Anarchists and democratic socialists are very active in the city by American standards and there are maoists and trotskyists bobbing about too. Pittsburgh's also the only city I know of that has active anarcho-transhumanists. They've got a free collaborative conference coming up next month if that's your thing. https://www.pleasetrythisathome.netAge wise there's an on and off spokescouncil run by anarchist Pitt Students and there's a radical anarchist feminist group run by students too. I empathize with you being in my early 20s myself (inbetween millennial and zoomer) and when I started organizing myself 3 years ago I felt pretty bummed that most everyone was older than myself. Most leftist activists in the city seem to be in their late 20s and early 30s. If you're a teenager/in your early 20s there's a youth queerpunk open mic at The Big Idea Bookstore and Cafe every month. http://www.queerpgh.com/queer-punk-slam-junk/The Big Idea is a good place to start organizing imo. The store always needs new cooperative members. It's run by experienced and level headed folks that have kept the place running for over a decade and you'll be exposed to all different sorts of ideas and people there. They've got a section for every major political ideology so it's not an echochamber. >>6063


>>6066>>6063Wrong link apologies https://thequeerpunkslamjunk.carrd.co/



Soviet trains?


>>6065trains = totalitarianism


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>>6070This pretty much. Successful and innovative train transportation systems require some degree of central planning in order to work properly. Otherwise you'll have crashes all the time, everywhere. It's like the age-old anti-ancap argument that "no roads will be built".It's also another reason why the USA isn't really a first world country.


The Moscow Metro is fucking glorious holy hell.Also Novoslobodskaya has a massive fucking mural of Lenin with a line from the Soviet anthem in I almost cried.


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I'm so happy you guys are still doing this thread. I made the one on leftypol, lurked here again and that thread is already here


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Time to post some trains from Czechoslovakia.


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Some more Czechoslovak trains.


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Now something American for a change.


>>6043I hope the Brits will fix their shit.


>>6071>high lifespan>high rail densityIs Cuba, dare I say it, the Japan of the Americas?


>>6076It really sucks how some of the tram revival projects in the US are just gimmicks and not meant as actual transportation to reduce car dependency.


>>6078Cuba is still a functioning society


Are mag-lev trains going to be scaled up at some point ?Pic is coming online in 2021


>>6078Cuba isn't crumbling under the weight of its own idiocy


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Pics of proposed CKD Tatra metro cars, which were meant originally for the Prague Metro. However the Czechoslovak revisionists and opportunists failed to negotiate that the Prague will not use technologically inferior Soviet Metro cars, which were effectively copies of interwar New York subway cars.The soviet metro cars were heavy, had worse power to weight ratio, their bogies had inferior construction more prone to oscillations, did not use modern light materials and so on.


>>6076American trains were glorious too




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>>6085I wonder what the designer was going for here


>>6086Squidward Express. Seats in a train or bus should NEVER be perfectly parallel to each other. Look how the path to the door is limited in its width by the armrests and how on the left you basically have to share one of the armrests.


>>6086>>6087It's the same bourg seating chart that gcp grey goes on about in his airline boarding video. Google it.


>>6088What is it. I don't use Google or YT.


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ep1 locomotive and t4 tatra


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French diesel multiple unit, and Russian electric car


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modernized tatra t3


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pacific electric pccj church light rail linecnt tram


>>6094very cute


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>>6035ancom trolleyancom trolley


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>>11286>tfw embargoed Cuba has more modern rolling stock than your 'first world' country


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RIP TebIt was a really nice idea to have a extra-wide over-head trolley, but the project seems to have ended.


>>6102It's not so bad, at least it shows they are trying new things re: mass transit and not afraid to admit that something didn't work out. Let a hundred types of public transportation bloom.


>>6102Didn't the guy in charge was thrown in jail for corruption or executed? I can't remember


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Recommending Train to BusanIt takes place mostly on a train, which is always positive, and it's class conscious in a delightfully vulgar way.


>>6038De grote boosdoener ier zijn "personen op het spoor", zouden gewoon moeten doorrijden oetz


>>6035I’m new to this board and the left in general, why are there so many people obsessed with trains?



>>6107It's not specifically about trains. It's about transportation with low friction, and low labour cost. Trains require comparably few people to operate and the metal wheels on metal rails have very low friction and hence waste comparably little fuel.


>>6041THe Bolivian solution is super enginious, in fact some other hilly cities of SOuth America have implemented or are thinking bout implementing this system, like Bogotá, in Colombia.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdTE4TCqkZo


>>6110These gondola system have existed for many decades, i wonder why this hasn't bean applied earlier, especially because it's low-cost.


>>6089>I don't use YTcringe


>>6107right wing people are obsessed with ugly and dangerous cars, whilst the true intellectuals prefer the fast, aesthetic and relaxing trains


>>6107I know stuff like monorail and this are stupid and nowhere near as effective and efficient as a regular rail system but I'll always be a sucker for techno-futurist mass transit systems(exept the hyperloop, fuck the hyperloop)


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>>6107Because &ltChad Train>follows its own schedule, doesn't care where you want to go>transports hundreds of proles at a time>time for proles to read, play chess or talk with one another and sharpen revolutionary mind>1000s of hp>phallic, long steely and hard>destroys every other vehicle it collides with>steel on steel low rolling resistance for max efficiency&ltvirgin car>few hundreds hp at best>goes where its master directs it>play act autonomy, stuck in traffic jam>front is shaped like a face because it is for babies>shitty tires that blow out and wear out>a ton of steel to seat paltry five meatbags>isolates proles from one another, stresses driver


I wish I had a driver license and was't forced to use public transport which is even more expensive.


>>6116I wish we had public transport where i live.



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there are super-capacitor trains, that get charged up during stops



>It was a really nice idea
Cuck design. Should have never gone past the paper stage.




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That looks like an extreme tipping hazard tbh.


That makes me wanna shoot myself


Give a bus its own road and it's faster than a train in an urban environment. Bus rapid transit will be the main mode of transit in a socialist society.


Makes me want to shoot them, in fortnite.


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The advantage buses have over tram and light rail is their ability to be in mixed traffic and have a flexible rout layout. If you go for a dedicated rout than buses loose out against trams and light rail, on speed (yes rail is faster), energy energy efficiency, comfort (smooth ride with no swaying), and operating cost (fewer maintenance cycles and longer lifespan of the equipment)

Buses are best suited for the lower capacity transport routs in places that have lower density of people living there, and as gap fillers for temporary peak transport needs.

Oh by the way i contradicted you on the speed issue because if your compare a 3 compartment segment bus (with 2 hinges) with a comparable capacity light rail, the light rail can go over twice as fast.

Now for the ideological reasoning, capitalists don't like light rail, because the labour inputs have a higher value add. Meaning you need to train people more, but they also add more economical value. Capitalists that mostly are short term minded don't like that rail has high initial capital cost and represents long term investments. Socialism does not have it's investment strategies limited to short-termism, but rather can select strategies for investment based on material conditions, and obviously prefers high value-add labour, because that is more economical.

For Areas with sufficient capacity needs, to justify rail construction, that is the preferred mode of transport, and obviously buses would be used for the lower density Areas where rail construction is not justified. There also are "trackless trams" (pic) that combine some of the features of buses and trams which might be worth considering as well.


>Now for the ideological reasoning, capitalists don't like light rail, because the labour inputs have a higher value add.
Capitalist countries rarely build BRT. Meanwhile, China is building a shitload of BRT. So too are Latin American countries.


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there are jet powered snow blowers for clearing snow off railways
can somebody explain what the reasoning behind those were


I'm doing my master's thesis in Model Predictive Control for a dynamic train cruise control. I am ascended.


That looks like a heater/blower for defrosting the rails, not a jet.


Looks like a fucking laser cannon to me.


it's definitely a jet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AgfPXH0I2I
here is one spinning up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ara0ZenCSe8

My question is why they uses a jet for this it has to have an insane fuel consumption.
A simple spinning brush maybe combined with a heating element would be cheaper and use a lot less fuel.


I have a car and use public transit whenever I do projects downtown. Its 8 bucks for a round trip to my job and back to the park in ride. Its $40 for a day to park. If I would get rid of my car in a heart beat if I knew I would never need it and could relay on public transit. Right now I'm waiting for the bus after getting off the tram. It'll hop onto the special carpool highway and speed past all the traffic and get me home 45 minutes earlier than if I had taken my car.


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Is it reasonable to advocate for individual pod on rail transport to get rail projects past the hyper-individualism dogmatism ?


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North Korea still using them sexy soviet diesels.


>bus rapid transit
Buses are based m8


maybe if those pods didn't look like gay nuggets.


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I don't know what a gay nugget is, could be more specific about what's wrong with those pods


What's the point? Regular rail cars can have separate compartments for antisocial people, individual pods are just retarded and inefficient.



They probably got it from surplus, so it's essentially free. Also, the fuel consumption probably isn't nearly as high as it isn't being used for propulsion - it's basically running on idle. That would seem to be case since the fuel tank is relatively small.


What up fellow Wisconsinite.

Yeah The Hop literally takes me to only one of my regular bars.

Scooter really ruined the midwest.


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>What's the point? Regular rail cars can have separate compartments for antisocial people, individual pods are just retarded and inefficient.

That's the point, you build the rails with "individualism characteristics", then you make the individual pods so people can experience the inefficiency, then they will let you put normal trains on the rails to fix efficiency. The end result is you got to put rails in the ground, without it getting killed off by dogmatic hyper-individualism, and you get to put trains on it because of it's efficiency. Granted you got some waste because it's trains with extra steps, but your can probably use some of the pods for maintenance and off hour service that has only few passengers. Even if you end up with unused rail-pods at the end it would still be more efficient than what exists currently.

pic unrelated


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This is the right thread, right?




Railbuses looks comfy AF! I've never traveled in one. Only seen one at some abandoned rail and several retrofitted as maintenance vehicles (that still looks comfy AF!)


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More comfiness!

I think that it would be useful if there's a renaissance for narrow gauge trains that also have cargo compartments for bicycles, mopeds and even motorcycles (against a fee, of course to prevent wasteful overusage).


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can i get an F?


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Japan still has it's war criminal monarchy so idk if they're wrong.


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Individual pods allow for the excitement of sex in public while remaining in a relatively private space. Compartments inside trains typically have a walkway on one of the sides so you cannot see out of both sides of the train which makes it less exciting.


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exhibitionism is a relevant concern for transportation ?


That car looks pretty narrow. Light rail?


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It's from Canada going through the rocky mountains, it looks like a normal train to me, maybe you're from a place that has extra wide trains ?

here pics from the outside of the train



>In the U.S trolleys got straight up demolished and everybody was forced to buy a car and then be in debt exactly because of that forced purchase

"Los Angeles Plays itself" (2003) is a good documentary that also adresses urban planning.

"Citizen Jane" (2017) too.

Why the relative huger loss in Northern Ireland? The Civil War?


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Indian carriage


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Same energy


What do you think about trolleybuses?

They run on overhead power like a tram , but they use regular roads (or a special lane on a regular road) so they don't have the infrastructure cost of a tram, which makes them a good choice for lightly populated suburbs where the it would not be worth the cost of installing tram rails or a passenger train line.



Russia is basically locking down the Eastern Border because of Corona flu.


Honestly that film is worryingly accurate.


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why are there comparably few double decker trains ?


Bridges and tunnels and shit, I bet.

Trolleybuses are based, too bad our retard mayor is replacing them with more expensive and less efficient electric busses because he hates visible power lines.


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Here some hungarian choo choos.
For yoo yoos.

1., diesel M61 (refurbished and repainted)
2., M63 and M41 (the M 41 is still in use despite deing developed in 1973)
3., the electric V43 (in production from 1963 till 1982, still in use)


>rail thread dying
why tho


bc you can't shit on people you disagree with and get into drawn-out shouting matches. 'The good die young' is very much true on imageboards.


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I try to keep it alive.

1., MÁV 303
2., MÁV Cbmot (alias: Hargita), only 4 were produced.
3., a cute little fellow :)


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I'm looking for a rail concept
that has the rail on the train
and the wheels on the grounds


Keep it alive, we must never stoop to pic related's level





>reusing the marx meme
as always annie, as always



Sadly most people in hungary are dumbfucks when it comes to economy Bonus problem is that governments push car travel way too hard (because you can steal more money from road-building than from rail-building). Also a big problem is that the head honchos at MÁV (the national railway company) are just puppets who want to stuff their own walletts and don't care about modernizing or keeping the train system functional.
Biggest joke is that ever since the '80s there were no new lines given to the public (except one, that was more of a politically charged ego-move by Orbán… and one that was planned since the fucking '70s… and is still just half-build)

But on the bright side: here are some love for the little guys on the little rails!
1., The Úttörővasút (Pioneer rail). In the distance in the background there is a TV tower. From 1978, Széchenyi-mountain. I think this model is the Camot 001 (alias "Kis Piri", "Little Red")
2., That beast is from 1988, on the same line, the diesel powered Mk45.
(BTW AFAIK the gauge is 760 mm… or 600 mm. There are only 3 lines with 600 but I can't remember which ones are those. Google it if I tickled your fancy.)
3., One of the oldest narrow-gauge rails still in use, "Zsuzsi" ("Susan"), from Debrecen.


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why is narrow gauge rail so uncommon ?


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Disgusting swine creatures.


I believe bullet Mag-Levs are the future of cross-country rail travel.


Does anyone have that post about how Thomas the Train is communist?



>A couple hundred fcebook posts = All americans
Get out thirdworlder


Didn't know this got made into a song


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Smother it with the inside of your elbow the next time you cough disgusting swine creature


>Muh coofing meme HURR
How are you better than the burgers again?


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>Why the relative huger loss in Northern Ireland? The Civil War?
Most of the lines pictured survived the Civil War in the 20s. If youre referring to the Troubles though, that also wasnt the case as most of them were gone before 1960. From what i could find skimming wikipedia, the governments north & south went through "rationalisation" periods where they shut down routes they didnt think were necessary. The south also went through coal shortages in WW2 and that coupled with constant emigration made railways unprofitable.


Many threads may die NOT THIS ONE ANONS
but this one is eternal.


I just want more cable cars and moborails. Fuck practicality, transit is just cool when elevated.


Read this question and its answers and holy fuck its pathetic: https://www.quora.com/Why-were-Soviet-cars-so-terrible-Was-communism-mostly-to-blame


Cable cars are very practical and more importantly really cheap and low noise. The coolness is just a nice side effect. Monorails aren't impractical either, they just rather expensive.

capitalists will never understand Soviet car design, because they think their car is an extension of the self. Soviets just thought they war transport cabins, and one really important Soviet design parameter was that regular machine shops should be able to repair most stuff with standard tools, which resulted making design simpler and cruder on purpose.


>Muh chink stereotypes
How intelligent, got a real argument?


Anyone got that compilation about the anti-rail conspiracy in the USA by GM and Ford?


Anyone know where this photo is from? Anyone have more?



Breaks down as soon as two cars are in the way in line. Good mass transit needs to be separated from regular traffic, no compromises!


>there's a youth queerpunk open mic
fucking disgusting


>Breaks down as soon as two cars are in the way in line. Good mass transit needs to be separated from regular traffic, no compromises!
Agreed but consider that this is a decent stepping stone, get people to experience how they can travel faster with a the overhead trolley than the people stuck in car-traffic below.


I've never understood this brand of autism but I am glad you've got a little space for it.


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>I've never understood this brand of autism but I am glad you've got a little space for it.

You can simplify transport as a box being shoved by a Force that is hindered by friction.
And trains have very little friction, because metal wheels on metal Rails don't have a lot of friction losses, which makes trains approximate the optimal case for transport much more so than most other modes of transport.
This is very appealing because it's a System that is very well optimized.


>I like trains


Its more efficient and looks cool, that's all there is to it.


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I just found out France had a ridiculous idea of putting jet engines on trains in the seventies. They were too loud so they had to cancel the project (this was before electromagnetic trains.) The USSR also tested it.


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France's was a hovertrain that would've floated on a cushion of air rather than a magnet, and been driven by a jet.


> a hovertrain
I think the soviets had a similar idea but skipped using rails and just went with sectioned hover-craft.


It's not directly related, but IDK what thread to put this at:


STAY HEALTHY STREETS’: Mayor announces closing 20 miles of streets in Seattle permanently in Seattle for bicycles and exercise.


ok but what about PLANES


They're very carbon inefficient and bourgeoisie, CEOs do most of the flying as freq. flyers by far and do so at high altitude unable to enjoy the view or being alive. Small planes rely on leaded gasoline which causes ghettos to get lead poisoning as they fly over them.


Unlike trains, you cannot electrify air travel. It will always be reliant on hydrocarbon fuels. That does not mean we need to eschew air travel in the future but it does mean the fuel will have to be produced through capturing carbon from the air to keep air travel carbon-neutral. Luckily the technology for producing carbon neutral synthetic fuel already exists, it is not economical (read profitable) so you won't see capitalists using it.


As an american, nothing would make me happier than to actually be able to go to the beach, or maybe to actually see the other side of the country without going by plane. I've been on a plane before and it sucks - they pack you like sardines in a can and barely give you any time to sleep before you get where you presumably want to go. It sounds positive going fast, but i think people need to go slower in transit because people should be able to enjoy the sights. It's like seeing the sights of your country or the country you're visiting is behind a paywall, reserved for rich people.
In america, poor people have to either drive themselves or carpool. Or go by bus. And there's no way you're going long distance that way.
Also, comfy booths with big windows looking at the countryside. Wouldn't that be nice?


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>Unlike trains, you cannot electrify air travel.
Well technically you can, you just need to spam airports everywhere so that the 5min battery life allows you to fly to your destination in 1000 little hops.
Alternatively you could also create satellites that use large solar panels to power a laser that targets a photovoltaic-cells on the plane, to extend the battery life. You do need a bespoke photovoltaic and laser system that are perfectly optimized to maximize efficiency, because you do need lots of power for planes and you have very little capacity for radiators to prevent overheating. Also a laser system that can remote power a large electric passenger plane would probably be pretty close to death-ray territory in terms of power.
So this probably has to wait for when we have overcome capitalism and live in a civilised society, that is able to use a technology without the temptation of using it for imperial domination. But even then it's not very likely to become very wide spread, because trains would probably be 20 times cheaper, and eventually somebody might figure out how to make ocean bridge/tunnels that can connect continent with rails.


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>not being for based Soviet Aeroflot
come on


Anyone have that effort-post about the Moscow Metro and how it was designed to support 6x the capacity of use when built and only had to be extended in the 60s?


Lasers are a good way to blind pilots, passengers, birds, and people on the ground. Sounds like a bad idea. Keep that stuff in space.

I've been thinking about taking the Amtrack across the country, but it looks like a lot of work and it's really expensive. It's cheaper and more practical to just get on a greyhound bus.

I really wish we'd have a hell of a lot more passenger rail because those sleeper cars are really a cool way to travel. Amtrack has them and so does Canadian rail, but it's maybe a thousand bucks a night for a room so it's not affordable really.


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Here is a video of an old soviet era train.


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>Lasers are a good way to blind pilots, passengers, birds, and people on the ground. Sounds like a bad idea. Keep that stuff in space.
Obviously the laser would only be activate at high altitude (so it doesn't have to go through too much atmosphere) in combination with the auto-pilot.


good post


They're common in the Netherlands.


Never heard of this but I believe it.


only if they're armed


I have this




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were these "Tranks" ever used ?
they sort of seem like doodles of children


Yeah, not sure how effective they were but I heard they were a bitch to use because everyone was always destroying rail infrastructure.
Get a load of this big fucker.
>Both Nazi Germany and Great Britain deployed railway guns that were capable of firing across the English Channel in the areas around Dover and Calais.
Apparently the Brits and Germans shot them at each other across the channel for a bit?


Yes and while - if they hit - they were powerful, their massive size quickly wore out the gun barrels and it would be easier to just send bombers or used Ballistic missiles. They're just over-sized Paris Guns really.


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ASEA-C6 manufactured for the Tunnelbana (metro) run by Storstockholms Lokaltrafik AB


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Saknar de gröna vagnarna


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The Brösarp-S:t Olof line on Österlen.


Y'all need to see a real train.



FYI Thomas the Train actually has lot of workers union background to it


Reminds me of the unique soviet railway ballistic missiles. The USA couldn't replicate them.


those are wonderful



of course they are, they're trains!


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Trams for plebs, freight for chads.


that's the type o' public transit they don't let black people on


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sexy Uzbek-operated Soviet metro cars. pastel paint job is very nice


they're planning to expand it at some point but it's unknown how long it will take. Also, as with all the Soviet Metro systems i've been on, they all feel the same, therefore, they all feel wonderful.


Dear Rail Anons,

What rail system would work for a country like Australia?

Thank you.


Australia does not need rail for moving people, Australians don't want to visit other parts of Australia, they want to GTFO from that hellhole.


Maybe finally build Melbourne-Sydney bullet train. Something other than a discount Intercity 125.


Milwaukee got over 40 million dollars to expand transit from Trump for some reason. I hope we do better than busses.


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Tashkent's metro is really good by Central Asian standards bc it exists.

also look at the CUCKED Kazakh metro car. None of that Uzbek-Soviet class


they're buying new rolling stock from Metrovagonmash for Tashkent



Fuck Mirziyoyev.
Can't have SHIT in Tashkent


ayy, chill
Metrovagonmash still their trains great


they're almost definitely better in the function, but they will never be as sexy as old soviet rolling stock with that sleek new paint (which is definitely impractical and probably usually looks like shit bc its light coloring shows stains and it likely doesn't get cleaned often).



Tashkent is testing their new elevated line. They probably won't have the same problems that Moscow had building line 12 Butovskaya cuz the climate in Tashkent doesn't damage trains so bad. Also, i used to live in Astana and i was much happier when visiting Almata. It's so much nicer over there.


Other than Alma-ata and Tashkent are there any other cities in Central Asia with good metros?


there are no other cities in Central Asia with metros. There are some tram systems tho and in Uzbekistan the electrichkas are nice. They're planning on building dumbass light-rail in Astana (Tselinograd) and bringing back some trams to Almata. There ain't anything planned in Dushanbe, that's assured (i lived there).




Global mag-lev tracks when? Airplanes are inefficient, wasteful and suck


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>Global mag-lev tracks when?
when intercontinental ocean-bridges/tunnels = true


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Just build flying trains.


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You make jokes, but that exists, but it doesn't actually help with crossing oceans.


>galaxy train reference
I see you are a man of culture as well

Didn't the Soviets have an idea for a hydro-planing Ocean-train?


Damn that is sexy. Fucking love this thread.


That's pretty neat, I wonder if they can be made to draw power form overhead wires. Or are the propeller engines too power hungry?


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In June 1931, on a course from Leningrad to Moscow by the Octoberist rail road the first branded train "Red Arrow" has been set on it's way.


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>a hydro-planing Ocean-train?
i tried finding out about this, but i have no clue what that this is supposed to be.

Hydro planing a train, would mean driving a regular plan fast enough over water so that it doesn't sink.


Anytime an anti-communist Kádár disrespecting fascist liberal nazi says "HURR DURR GOMUDISM IS OPRESHUN", I tell them "Without The Hungarian People's Republic, There Would Be No Pioneer Rail"

This is basically a tourist attraction, even though it's just a narrow gauge rail. It's [b]that[/b] good.

Just look at this. The train is really cute and cool, and to top it all of, you get to go through a bunch trees and shit. Since it's in the capital, you can reach it very easily. Who wouldn't want this?

Also, you have get to or get down from Széchenyi mountain somehow (if you don't want to take the same route again). This is what the cogwheel rail is for! It's also pretty cute, and you still get to engage in some sightseeing.


Isn't it just sexy?


stop being horny


>Mk 45-2003
It looks like an old steam locomitive. Isn't it ardurous to switch between the left and right window?

>train in space
Is it from Galaxy Express 999? And IIRC there's an even older anime about trains in space.


>an even older anime about trains in space
What's it called?


Anon is gyermekvasutas volt?


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This big boy is one of the older trams that we have in our city (half of whole city fleet are versions like these). Still runs smoothly and as far as I know couple of them were even exported to the North Korea.

In the image are depicted revisions and repaints through the years.


quite pleasing to see


In Budapest we have Tatra T5C5.


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Quite nice, from what I know they were exclusively made for Budapest. I was traveling to school in the similar configuration but with Tatra T6 (our city skipped one generation there). Those T6s are now used for heavy duty non-turist lines (likes schools as mentioned above) and they have one big advantage - they are symmetrical unlike the new trams. So they can turn around in a regular crossection track without needing to make a loop.


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Arent they pretty common tho? We have technology so we dont need to have raised floor for power unit. This basically allows to slap additional floor on top.


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>Arent they pretty common tho?
Not really, no
>We have technology so we dont need to have raised floor for power unit. This basically allows to slap additional floor on top.
But simple train-cars never had power-units, or a need for raised floors ?


>But simple train-cars never had power-units, or a need for raised floors ?
Old train-cars had bulky wheels, brake systems etc.. And they were also usually segmented. So there was no incentive to lower the floors.


Not rail, but




God I bet that's stressful to drive


Juche train
Juche train


Dont worry. They probably had those big sticks, if in case trolleys disconnected from cables


not really, the booms extend in length allowing some range for manoeuvring and those usually have bells that ring to warn the driver when going too far from the power-line. On-top of that they tend to have a quick-release mechanism to prevent damage when disconnecting. Also they don't require any shifting gears.


Can we get some tractor love :>


Can there be buses (or trucks even again :>) that would use trolleys where are cables, but if there are no cables (on secondary routes for example) they would use charged battery to drive rest of the route?
You know, anything would be better than those half assed solutions like those hybrid diesel buses.


Best korea should export those tractors

Farmers would love them

pic only because it's culturally obligatory for this thread, nothing meant by it thank you for sharing those pics comrade


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We have similar Zetor-6911 at home (pic is someone elses tractor). Too bad I didnt make any fotage of me driving it.
It a nice, very torque heavy machine that gets the shit done. But bitch is so old, that it has really faded brakes. Only reliable way to brake is to brake with engine + transmission. So when you are climbing a hill and you miss a shift (it doesnt even have synchroniser I think), you can easily lose control and go backwards like boulder rolling down from the hill (it happened to my dad once and I tought he would fucking die).


Correction: Its maybe 5911, IDK i will take picture of it later


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When did the Kansas City Streetcar get extended to Wisconsin?


Fuck the automobile lobby and all the stooge politicians that receive an exorbitant amount of money from them to eliminate public transport.


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I vote we move this thread to /hobby/ since its clearly non-political and slow threads would do better on a slower board so it won't sink so fast.



lol sorry but this shit looks even more complicated.
Making your streetcar effectively a tunnel over two lanes seems dangerous, but sort of feasible. Making your streetcar some kind of weird walker that retracts its legs when next to obstacles seems ripe for some technical error.


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Bumping this again


Horikou is seriously under-rated.


Thank you based admins, now I won't have to worry that this thread sinks because of spamfags.


They made the new one anyway LMAO


Redirect the retards here and report it. It doesn't belong there.


Kek the admins got mad


>TFW the thread is moved to hobby so it doesn't constantly sink and people stop posting


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Post train tips and memes


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So the Seibu 001 series won the Blue Ribbon (railfan popular vote in Japan), but something about it looks completely disturbing– it's like Eve from Wall-E had sex with an international style villa. Trains were just not meant to have floor-to-ceiling windows.


People might fall out of the train if the glass breaks, but it's still nice design.


Thats why trains should be free and paid by rich fucks taxes (atleast for now in capitalism). Thats the only good thing Socdems did in our country


Taken for a ride - the US history of the assault on public transportation in the last century




That image was already part of the mistake. Letting road vehicles clutter up the streets and compete with light rail was how they argued to get rid of the light rail.


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Letting private business own public transport was the first and biggest mistake.


I work with the municipal government and the idiots cannot fathom the idea of a carless society, despite the fact that most people have to use the dreaded and super expensive private collective transport (and most have to walk at least an hour a day on top).

During the day, there are more cars in the city than there are people who live there by like 2x. It's pathological at this point, nobody gives a fuck it seems. There's no such thing as bus lanes and busses are so slow, inaccessible, and expensive, you are better off buying a cheap car.

We also lead the country in bike deaths and car crashes. We're not even the largest city.

The government workers are so fucking dense, I told them they should ban private use cars, one of them asked, "but if I need to go to the hospital, how would I get there?". Like nigga, ask half the people you represent which don't own cars.



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I've been watching a newer youtube channel called railways explained. It's really great and in-depth.

Highly recommend it.



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Have you heard about the new chinese train if what I read is really true thats absolutly insane
Speeds of 620 kilometers (385 miles) per hour


>620 km/h
>made in china
when that shit crashes it's gonna spray people sauce across three prefectures


to my understanding china has a good working high speed rail system


>has the land and the capital to use tractor's
Fuck you bourgeois pig
ignore me I'm just jealous


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Shenyang Railway Museum


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As an Australian, this thread makes me want to kmseurekaEureka


I recommend watching two YouTube channels.

1. Simply Railway - Gives current ride alongs with trains and gives you a preview of what to expect for traveling with each train service.

2. Railways Explained - They show the history, organizational, explanation, and other indepth videos based on trains. I love their information on it.



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Tangaras looked OK, and there is the Ghan or whatever…… fug


Ty. Dope ass channel.






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hello locomotive autists. I am looking for resources on Australian trains and railways in the late 1800s if anyone can help me with that



Best thread on /hobby/


This is the most communist thread on this site.


Railpage has written everything there is about railways in Australia https://www.railpage.com.au/f.htm



i ain't ever gonna forget being in the offices with the head of the telecommunications at the Estonian Railway's offices and hearing a 40+ year old man complaining about terrible planning processes during signal upgrading and the stupidity of the Minister of Transport for requiring trains to eventually be able to go 140 km/h in a country as small as Estonia.


Will international shipping be replaced by something better? It’s a huge inefficient fuel hog.


As of the moment its the MOST efficient method of mass transport, and having spoken to people involved in those ops, there isn't much perspective in their replacement in the near future, none of the other options are fuel-efficient enough or carry enough cargo to make it work.


But can it be mitigated though? Most of the commodities are needlessly transported due to outsourcing of resources and overran globalization. I think we could just cut down 80% of the supply chain and it would be fine. Hell the US alone can supply most of the American continent with fossil fuels while the Latin countries have enough minerals to go around. A more decentralized world would need much less shipping.


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Context please? The year at least'd be nice.

In regards to aircraft, hydro-fuel engines are perspective (see >>20449 ). The energy of the atom is probably the best bet for ships, but that requires a lot of highly qualified cadres (not an impossibility with socialism's education systems).

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