No.7557
>>7555whoever else is reading this, it's Ivan Vasiliviech changes proffesions, some comedy
No.7559
>>7558so the comments say
what kinda humor is it?
No.7561
>>7560Why does American media portray small town cops as bumbling oafs? Probably because it's funny.
No.7562
>>7560If you take yourself too seriously, you will risk to losing your "human face" (sorry juchefags, but North Korea is partially guilty of this)
No.7563
>>7562Yeah but the Soviet Union did this and then collapsed, North Korea hasn't.
No.7564
>>7563Thats a long fucking stretch my dude. Also Cuba still exists…
No.7565
>>7554>they were family friendly affairs similar to the first pirates of the carribean in toneWhat a weird take, they had all kinds of movies.
Here's one of their big dick studios, the most important movies have subs
https://www.youtube.com/c/MosfilmRuOfficial/>>7560Why not? They made movies for themselves to watch, not to pretend to someone their shit don't stink.
No.7566
I imagine a show similar to Seinfeld would be a huge hit because of how it makes fun of mundane everyday tasks. Or am I just being dumb?
No.7567
>>7560>as idiotic pencil pushing bureaucratic pigs1) They don't that's your interpretation.
2) It's an exaggeration of the known ideas about the militzia for comedic effect. A serious film or series involving the police depicted them as they were, serious and professional, but willing to be human if necessary.
No.7568
>>7566Considering that dubbed American sitcoms were popular in Russia during the early 90s, yes.
No.7569
>>7565well I say this because my grandma likes soviet films and the first pirates of the caribbean and I don't believe her tastes vary that much
No.7570
>>7554>family friendly affairs similar to the first pirates of the carribean in toneReminds me of some of the sci-fi flicks:
https://youtu.be/xDABLEH3g7g No.7572
>>7555I couldn't stand it after 30 minutes. It's a bit of a cultural shock how weird and unfunny this was compared to a Mel Brooks movie.
I loved that scene of his wife singing tho, where's my movie of just that?
No.7573
>>7572> weird and unfunny this was 1) There is a lot lost in translation
2) The film reflects the time period of the USSR, humor there was rarely as overt as in the USA
3) This is one of the more esoteric and less funny of the director
>Mel Brooks He's funny but don't oversell this guy.
No.7574
>>7554Ok good topic, but what the hell is that thumbnail and why is that shitty She-ra remake?
No.7575
This channel has a lot of old Soviet T.V.:
https://www.youtube.com/c/gtrftv/videosI'm assuming she speaks Russian.
No.7576
>>7575Thanks I was looking for new channels with soviet kino
No.7577
Uhhh
Is that show in the OP image another Steven Universe or some shit?
No.7578
>>7577it's of the same ilk, yes.
No.7579
>>7577>>7578It's a remake of She-Ra and the Princesses of power and is liberal toon-boom trash.
No.7581
>>7580Compared to Teen Titans Go, Ben 10 2018, and Steven Universe, yeah its not bad, but there's so much off that I can't even enjoy it ironically. For example the character designs are so lunky that it ruins the point of them being girls.
No.7582
>>7554 Irony of Fate is one of family friendly ones, but it also pokes Brezhnev-era bureaucracy a bit. It's apparently still popular in ex-USSR, people watch it for New Years. You could check that one out
No.7583
>>7582I love that film, watch every New years as per soviet tradition. The film is evidence that social criticism existed in the USSR without outright being obnoxious liberal LARPing.
No.7585
>>7563Ah yes. Aesthetics. The reason countries collapse.
Do you materialism?
No.7586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKRG7PF73UAfound this little thing, it's a cartoon adaptation of treasure island, aka, russian one piece
No.7587
>>7586A classic insane cartoon of that time.
No.7588
>>7587haven't watched the whole thing yet (just up until livley's rum=death thing) but I liek
No.7589
>>7588That cartoon was my childhood, the whole thing is 1 big, psychotropic ride
No.7590
>>7579dafuq qualifies as liberal toonboom trash?
No.7592
>>7591came here topost this
No.7593
>>7591seems cool
is called white sun of desert, can't watch now, whassit about
No.7594
>>7554Try to watch Irony of Fate like another anon said. The subtitles on YouTube aren't very good, you can torrent the film on the pirate bay with english subtitles. It's a fantastic film, shows more than the possibility of dissent in Russia, it proves that Communism is the only system which is wholesome, you couldn't make a movie like this in capitalism, a romantic comedy that doesn't make obscene jokes about sex, doesn't feature divorcees, which actually has well written, witty dialogue. Lately I've been thinking that the collapse of the USSR was the final nail in the coffin for Communism (and humanity will subsequently follow her into the grave). :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVpmZnRIMKs No.7595
>>7594now listen pal, I know shit looks bleak, and I'm here to tell you it'll stay bleak unless we do something about it, the bolesheviks went up against an ancient regime and won even as the whole world conspired against them, the USSR may have fallen, but its idea lives on, all it needs is someone to carry it
No.7596
>>7590The designs are lazy noodle-armed bean-mouthed shit with the characters having no definite physical traits, amorphous genderless bodies. What's the point of making them princesses if they just look like squarejawed crossdressers? FFS She-Ra looks like Ben Tennyson in blue contacts and cosplay, and Katra was such an edgy teen-shove-in that it was horrible. And no it isn't exploring themes or being mature. It's just being pretentious and appealing to liberal ideological insertion.
No.7597
shouldn't this belong to
>>>/hobby/ No.7598
>>7596ok, I thought it was more defined and you could tell what sex each character was well enough, and the themes dealt with abuse and the effects thereof, but your opinion is your opinion
No.7599
>>7597Yep
>>7598>more definedI can get very defined and breakdown the intrinsic flaws but that's a waste of time. Is it better than SU or TTG or B10? Sure, but that's a low bar to jump
>you could tell what sex each character was well enoughNot really, remove their faces and hairstyle and just look at their bodies in black and white and I would probably mistake 1/2 the "girls" for buff, stocky, yet simultaneously androgynous men drawn simplistically. Just compare the original series designs with the old ones (pic related). Only "le kat girl" and she-ra looks even remotely female. I have no problem with non-curvy women or buff-women or tomboys, hell the latter 2 are pretty cool to me, but the whole point is that they're still girls even with their manliness. Look at ATLA and its designs and animations. They're simple yet detailed and figured enough to where you can tell who's male or female almost at a glance, and this is distinctly shown with the Ember Island Play, where female Aang-actor while superficially similar, is distinct in how they look. The worst part of this? There is a part of the show where Bow dreams about the group and the way they look is much, MUCH better (pic 2)
>the themes dealt with abuse and the effects thereofThemes without substance are worthless. Their attempt at covering abuse and trauma fails because the depiction is of teenage female drama and angst. Its just edgy nonsense.
>>6981 put it well, good themes aren't worth much if the writers are hacks. It's why I prefer the older She-ra over the new one. Sure it isn't as "deeeep" but its certainly fun and funny.
Now lets end it here, because we're derailing the thread.
No.7600
>>7599I'm more attracted to the new Catra tbh
No.7602
>>7599hol'up, modern kids' cartoons have THEMES?!
No.7604
Were the Soviet 80s as cool as the US 80s?
No.7605
>>7604Yep, but not as crazy. the Soviet 80s were great (until 1986) while the America 80s were crazier.
No.7627
>>7593Red Army veterans fight bandits in Central Asia. A Soviet "Eastern" take on American Western films.
No.7672
>>7664That's a Cuban cartoon not a full length film and no-one saying this kind of content didn't exist in the USSR but that it was uncommon and kept to humor of a rougher kind.
Also post the actual film idiot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZMGaXlt9DQ No.7740
hey, so I recall someone mentioning look and see as a film in some other thread, and there were mentions that soviets didn't have rambo-esque gory power fantasies, anyone care to comment?
No.7749
>>7740That was likely my comment, most likely in that militarism thread. The USSR unlike the USA suffered severe, direct consequences in the 2nd world war and combined with the socialist system, this imprinted firmly the idea that war is horrible and necessary to defend oneself.
It's why the USSR was hesitant to involve its own troops in foreign conflicts while the USA threw away its soldiers everywhere with wild abandon. The idea of someone going gung-ho into a battle and killing all the nazis in gory detail without any care, while bullets miss him like a video-game cheat… its an inconceivable falsity to soviet people, that trivializes real heroics and discredits their enemy. How can you be heroic if your enemies are all incompetent retards anyway? Moreover death, any death leaves an imprint, it is supposed to, if you don't feel anything at the sight of people killed, then that's just sociopathy and if you (as an adult) find it fun, then that's psychopathy. Death is never trivial and to find amusement it is to trivialize it. To cheer it on, deservedly or not, is to be like an uncivilized chimp, hooting and hollering when an alpha beats another male to death with a rock. My Grandfather told me the story of how they liberated a village that had been under the SS. Two SS officers were captured. They had killed every man in the village and many women and children were murdered by them. All that was left were some older women and a few remaining children. They were so furious and angry that they beat the officers to death with rocks in a rage, in revenge, for their families killed like animals. And nobody cheered, nobody laughed, nobody was feeling cool or happy about this impromptu execution. Afterwards the women cried bitter bitter tears as they still could never return their beloved papas, mamas, daughters and sons. They were gone forever, and they would live the rest of their lives with that aching gap in their hearts. That is what the film Come and See depicts with complete accuracy.
https://aif.ru/society/history/sozhzhennye_zazhivo_karateli_v_hatyni_ne_schadili_ni_starikov_ni_deteyWar is misery, war is death, war is anger and hate and sadness with tears and blood and bile. There is no glory in war, only outside it, when your sacrifice is acknowledged by the people and remembered. There is bravery and valor, but within every soldier who fights, that exists because to put your life on the line requires this.
I've gone on a bit of a tangent, but it is necessary. Too many people on this site think that killing someone, nazi or not is easy or guiltless or good. Too many people think that shooting guns around in wild abandon is a good idea. Too many people here LARP about fighting, yet know nothing about it or the bad things it brings.
I leave you with this, not a single song about the actual war in the USSR was happy or cheerful. The navy and artillery and tankists may have had their peppy marches, but not a single song about the war itself celebrated the war. Cautious optimism was the best you would get from their songs.
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B9-poslyedniy-boy-final-battle.html No.7764
>>7749huh, so it's like the americans had their vietnam war, and the russians had the second world war
No.7765
>>7749I guess this actually shows itself in the film whit sun of the desert, Sukhov spends a good chunk of the final battle hiding with the harem, before popping up and machinegunning half-a-dozen bandits, before getting into a mostly futile pistol battle with another bandit he only wins when the barge distracts the guy, the entire fight feels more like die-hard than a stereotypical western, where the hero only wins because his enemies were surprised at a few occasions, combined with his skill
No.7781
>>7749I actually wonder if the FPS genre of video gamjes could've taken root in the USSR
No.7812
>>7555Holy shit, those expression ranges of that one guy
>a wimp>a tough guy>a wimp pretending to be a tough guyalso
>scene with the Swedish emmisary>he actually starts speaking mangled Germanmaybe because I am German myself but it came out of nowhere and made me laugh so hard
>all just a dreamnow this I don't like, I hate endings like this. Also turns his wife wasn't unfaithful at all, it was all based on his insecurities.
No.7813
>>7560https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvVpbNaSk6kHere they are portrayed as sly and heroic, but they are not the main focus.
No.7814
>>7577>>7579If you ignore the art style it's pretty OK.
The message is either, you can stop people abusing you with the power of friendship.
Alternatively, if you want to end the cycle of abuse, kill the guy who started it. Once that motherfucker is gone, no one needs to vent anymore.
No.7815
>>7554https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAAImJkUOjAI am really digging the Russian adaption of Sherlock Holmes. I consider it the best adaption of them all.
No.7816
>>7815Livanov's performance as Holmes was so highly regarded in England that on February 20, 2006, Queen Elizabeth II awarded Livanov an honorary Commandership in the Order of the British Empire (OBE) "for service to the theatre and performing arts," a rare honor for a non-British citizen.
No.7820
>>7816I'm sure Vitaly Solomin would've gotten it as well if he were still alive.
No.7821
Was Flyora from Come and See actually Elen Klimov?
No.7888
Anyone recommend any Soviet Sci-Fi?
No.7894
>>7888Planeta Bur is a classic that in many places inspired some of the Star Wars OT scenes
No.8892
>>7554https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKRG7PF73UASoviet Treasure Island.
It's a cartoon, but I like it very much. It's impressive how despite the changes the dialogue is almost verbatim taken from the book.
No.9564
>>7888Moscow-Cassiopea is the classic
i also like Im staub der terne 1976 east german (i think it is in english too)
warning: the later has thot porn
No.9601
>>9590I remember winnie the pooh, I watched that on a DVD on my Grandma's computer
No.9603
>>9595this cartoon was always kind of gay because it is 90s abomination
im not against it, in the 90s it was a bit interesting (however i never watched it full)
but the style is bad
soviet books OTOH had neat art and illustrations. just so you know.
No.9759
>>7815Is that the one with the "No, it means someone stole our tent, idiot" joke?
No.9764
>>9564>the later has thot pornBased
No.12051
I feel like Masha and Medved really carry across the spirit of Soviet cartoons quite well, musically, thematically and culturally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rer9g8kd4IY No.12063
>>12051Man, my cousin's kids were so OBSESSED with them
No.12064
>>12051my mom fucking hates masha, she thinks its the worst of post soviet media
No.12065
>>12064by media i meant cartoons
No.12066
>>12064I frankly don't see why. The animation is neat, the short stories are never crass or outright stupid and it's fairly good at carrying across fixtures of Russian culture.
It's also a show aimed at 2-6 year olds, so it's not exactly meant to be comparable to a more mature cartoon work.
No.12069
>>12066i didnt like it either, my favorite was nu pogodi that was the best
No.12075
>>12069The irony being that Nu Pogodi imitated Tom and Jerry with Russian characteristics, rather than being it's own format.
No.12078
>>12075Why the hell are my posts saged for no fuckin' reason!?
No.19301
>>12075actually, apart from the cat & mouse chase format, it's not that similar, none of the gags, cultural jokes, characters or anything are remotely similar to on another.
No.19309
>>7554https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5ih1IRIRxIThis is not exactly Soviet product because it was released in 2001 but he has been producing animation like this since the 80s and studied animation back in the USSR. If you are interested, there's more of his stuff on YouTube, including his early Soviet short movies.
No.19310
"How cossacks…" is a series of famous Ukrainian cartoons about a group of three cossacks (one is hyperactive midget, the second one is tall and smart, the third one is a brickhouse). Features soup cooking, salt buying, playing football, hockey, competing in Olympic games, fighting bandits, helping aliens and fighting evil spirits. No subtitles required.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZgjiJu_A_Xi4MBmxhziR-EcoPOBPYwVl No.19311
>>19310That was always hilarious series
>>19309hey, i didn't think anyone else knew about this… I have it on DvD
No.19312
>>7555 (checked)
This whole channel is a gold mine.
No.19316
>>19311>hey, i didn't think anyone else knew about this…Yes. most people have not seen it unless they are professional animators or live in Russia. I am Ukrainian artist though, picrelated, and indie animation is my passion, so no wonder I know the guy. Unfortunately the Soviet animation in general is underwhelming and its poor quality reflects the level of development of the USSR in general. It's very sad to see what kind of shit the Nips were producing in the 80-00, and what the Soviet/Russian animation industry was making…
There's also a very nice Russian/Soviet animator, Garri Bardin, he won Palme d'Or at the Cannes festival for one of his shorts, here's my favorite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIE1Gm4ld2Uhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garri_BardinAnd this is the short film for which he won the prize in 1987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_8EBn2PLHA No.19321
>>19316>Ukrainian artistО, здорова товарищь славянский! Спасибо за сылки, очень интересно, посмотрю!
>>19318Yeah that was a trend with animated content from all the animating studios of the time, embed related is from Saakians's ArmenFilm…
No.19322
>>19321You didn't post the video mate
No.19739
What do you guys think about the subsidy in animation in Eastern bloc countries. Cat City used to be translated over here along with Nu, Pogodi!.
Some absolute gems.
https://youtu.be/5LNHYz89sNchttps://youtu.be/NnJbtbh4tDEhttps://youtu.be/QKRG7PF73UA No.20522
>>20517Man I really remember this one.
No.20565
>>7563>Yeah but the Soviet Union did this and then collapsed, North Korea hasn't.NK has plenty of support from China.
>>7564>Thats a long fucking stretch my dude. Also Cuba still exists…Cuba lost out on their support from the USSR and has to eke it out.
Can't really defend the embargo against Cuba. If anything, the USMC should make a landing and deploy american businessmen on Cuba's shores. Two marines per businessman should do the trick during the critical part in the surf.
No.21112
Foreign Actors in Soviet Films
https://archive.ph/1Y2bZ No.21146
>>21145Reminder; vaccines that are tested more importantly made in non-bourg countries are safe and reliable, untested Big Pharma produced rubbish is not.
No.22641
I know there were a bunch of Soviet cartoons co-created with Japanese studeos.
No.40662
>>24216>Сказки для детей - Чиполлино https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6xQDChpUR0 >>22625 >The Mystery of the Third Planet (1981) Soviet Sci-Fi Animation with English and Russian subtitles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBOVmZgLsxk >>19323 Armenfilm - Sahakyants
>Все хорошо/ Everything is fine (1991) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCjGbWR59jg No.40663
>>7560are you implying cops are bunch a dickheaded pigs? imagine my SHAWK. Just use this as ammo when debating libs and point out how soviet animation in the 20th century was more critical of policing than most american media is now when some dipshit lib is like "but le ebil soviets killed anyone who diagreed".
No.40677
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG4qM0CxEqIWorth a watch, very interesting and well made.
Unique IPs: 22