So my grandma lived in Lithuania back when it was an SSR (She says she was born right after ww2 for reference) and she liked the movies there, from what I can gather they were family friendly affairs similar to the first pirates of the carribean in tone, any comments and maybe recomendations for old soviete media?
>>7558so the comments say
what kinda humor is it?
>>7554>they were family friendly affairs similar to the first pirates of the carribean in toneWhat a weird take, they had all kinds of movies.
Here's one of their big dick studios, the most important movies have subs
https://www.youtube.com/c/MosfilmRuOfficial/>>7560Why not? They made movies for themselves to watch, not to pretend to someone their shit don't stink.
>>7560>as idiotic pencil pushing bureaucratic pigs1) They don't that's your interpretation.
2) It's an exaggeration of the known ideas about the militzia for comedic effect. A serious film or series involving the police depicted them as they were, serious and professional, but willing to be human if necessary.
>>7555I couldn't stand it after 30 minutes. It's a bit of a cultural shock how weird and unfunny this was compared to a Mel Brooks movie.
I loved that scene of his wife singing tho, where's my movie of just that?
>>7572> weird and unfunny this was 1) There is a lot lost in translation
2) The film reflects the time period of the USSR, humor there was rarely as overt as in the USA
3) This is one of the more esoteric and less funny of the director
>Mel Brooks He's funny but don't oversell this guy.
This channel has a lot of old Soviet T.V.:
https://www.youtube.com/c/gtrftv/videosI'm assuming she speaks Russian.
>>7563Ah yes. Aesthetics. The reason countries collapse.
Do you materialism?
>>7591seems cool
is called white sun of desert, can't watch now, whassit about
>>7597Yep
>>7598>more definedI can get very defined and breakdown the intrinsic flaws but that's a waste of time. Is it better than SU or TTG or B10? Sure, but that's a low bar to jump
>you could tell what sex each character was well enoughNot really, remove their faces and hairstyle and just look at their bodies in black and white and I would probably mistake 1/2 the "girls" for buff, stocky, yet simultaneously androgynous men drawn simplistically. Just compare the original series designs with the old ones (pic related). Only "le kat girl" and she-ra looks even remotely female. I have no problem with non-curvy women or buff-women or tomboys, hell the latter 2 are pretty cool to me, but the whole point is that they're still girls even with their manliness. Look at ATLA and its designs and animations. They're simple yet detailed and figured enough to where you can tell who's male or female almost at a glance, and this is distinctly shown with the Ember Island Play, where female Aang-actor while superficially similar, is distinct in how they look. The worst part of this? There is a part of the show where Bow dreams about the group and the way they look is much, MUCH better (pic 2)
>the themes dealt with abuse and the effects thereofThemes without substance are worthless. Their attempt at covering abuse and trauma fails because the depiction is of teenage female drama and angst. Its just edgy nonsense.
>>6981 put it well, good themes aren't worth much if the writers are hacks. It's why I prefer the older She-ra over the new one. Sure it isn't as "deeeep" but its certainly fun and funny.
Now lets end it here, because we're derailing the thread.
>>7664That's a Cuban cartoon not a full length film and no-one saying this kind of content didn't exist in the USSR but that it was uncommon and kept to humor of a rougher kind.
Also post the actual film idiot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZMGaXlt9DQ >>7740That was likely my comment, most likely in that militarism thread. The USSR unlike the USA suffered severe, direct consequences in the 2nd world war and combined with the socialist system, this imprinted firmly the idea that war is horrible and necessary to defend oneself.
It's why the USSR was hesitant to involve its own troops in foreign conflicts while the USA threw away its soldiers everywhere with wild abandon. The idea of someone going gung-ho into a battle and killing all the nazis in gory detail without any care, while bullets miss him like a video-game cheat… its an inconceivable falsity to soviet people, that trivializes real heroics and discredits their enemy. How can you be heroic if your enemies are all incompetent retards anyway? Moreover death, any death leaves an imprint, it is supposed to, if you don't feel anything at the sight of people killed, then that's just sociopathy and if you (as an adult) find it fun, then that's psychopathy. Death is never trivial and to find amusement it is to trivialize it. To cheer it on, deservedly or not, is to be like an uncivilized chimp, hooting and hollering when an alpha beats another male to death with a rock. My Grandfather told me the story of how they liberated a village that had been under the SS. Two SS officers were captured. They had killed every man in the village and many women and children were murdered by them. All that was left were some older women and a few remaining children. They were so furious and angry that they beat the officers to death with rocks in a rage, in revenge, for their families killed like animals. And nobody cheered, nobody laughed, nobody was feeling cool or happy about this impromptu execution. Afterwards the women cried bitter bitter tears as they still could never return their beloved papas, mamas, daughters and sons. They were gone forever, and they would live the rest of their lives with that aching gap in their hearts. That is what the film Come and See depicts with complete accuracy.
https://aif.ru/society/history/sozhzhennye_zazhivo_karateli_v_hatyni_ne_schadili_ni_starikov_ni_deteyWar is misery, war is death, war is anger and hate and sadness with tears and blood and bile. There is no glory in war, only outside it, when your sacrifice is acknowledged by the people and remembered. There is bravery and valor, but within every soldier who fights, that exists because to put your life on the line requires this.
I've gone on a bit of a tangent, but it is necessary. Too many people on this site think that killing someone, nazi or not is easy or guiltless or good. Too many people think that shooting guns around in wild abandon is a good idea. Too many people here LARP about fighting, yet know nothing about it or the bad things it brings.
I leave you with this, not a single song about the actual war in the USSR was happy or cheerful. The navy and artillery and tankists may have had their peppy marches, but not a single song about the war itself celebrated the war. Cautious optimism was the best you would get from their songs.
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B9-poslyedniy-boy-final-battle.html >>7555Holy shit, those expression ranges of that one guy
>a wimp>a tough guy>a wimp pretending to be a tough guyalso
>scene with the Swedish emmisary>he actually starts speaking mangled Germanmaybe because I am German myself but it came out of nowhere and made me laugh so hard
>all just a dreamnow this I don't like, I hate endings like this. Also turns his wife wasn't unfaithful at all, it was all based on his insecurities.
>>7577>>7579If you ignore the art style it's pretty OK.
The message is either, you can stop people abusing you with the power of friendship.
Alternatively, if you want to end the cycle of abuse, kill the guy who started it. Once that motherfucker is gone, no one needs to vent anymore.
>>7554https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKRG7PF73UASoviet Treasure Island.
It's a cartoon, but I like it very much. It's impressive how despite the changes the dialogue is almost verbatim taken from the book.
>>7888Moscow-Cassiopea is the classic
i also like Im staub der terne 1976 east german (i think it is in english too)
warning: the later has thot porn
>>9595this cartoon was always kind of gay because it is 90s abomination
im not against it, in the 90s it was a bit interesting (however i never watched it full)
but the style is bad
soviet books OTOH had neat art and illustrations. just so you know.
>>12064I frankly don't see why. The animation is neat, the short stories are never crass or outright stupid and it's fairly good at carrying across fixtures of Russian culture.
It's also a show aimed at 2-6 year olds, so it's not exactly meant to be comparable to a more mature cartoon work.
>>19310That was always hilarious series
>>19309hey, i didn't think anyone else knew about this… I have it on DvD
>>7555 (checked)
This whole channel is a gold mine.
>>19311>hey, i didn't think anyone else knew about this…Yes. most people have not seen it unless they are professional animators or live in Russia. I am Ukrainian artist though, picrelated, and indie animation is my passion, so no wonder I know the guy. Unfortunately the Soviet animation in general is underwhelming and its poor quality reflects the level of development of the USSR in general. It's very sad to see what kind of shit the Nips were producing in the 80-00, and what the Soviet/Russian animation industry was making…
There's also a very nice Russian/Soviet animator, Garri Bardin, he won Palme d'Or at the Cannes festival for one of his shorts, here's my favorite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIE1Gm4ld2Uhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garri_BardinAnd this is the short film for which he won the prize in 1987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_8EBn2PLHA >>19316>Ukrainian artistО, здорова товарищь славянский! Спасибо за сылки, очень интересно, посмотрю!
>>19318Yeah that was a trend with animated content from all the animating studios of the time, embed related is from Saakians's ArmenFilm…
What do you guys think about the subsidy in animation in Eastern bloc countries. Cat City used to be translated over here along with Nu, Pogodi!.
Some absolute gems.
https://youtu.be/5LNHYz89sNchttps://youtu.be/NnJbtbh4tDEhttps://youtu.be/QKRG7PF73UA>>7563>Yeah but the Soviet Union did this and then collapsed, North Korea hasn't.NK has plenty of support from China.
>>7564>Thats a long fucking stretch my dude. Also Cuba still exists…Cuba lost out on their support from the USSR and has to eke it out.
Can't really defend the embargo against Cuba. If anything, the USMC should make a landing and deploy american businessmen on Cuba's shores. Two marines per businessman should do the trick during the critical part in the surf.
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