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Or am I better off learning a trade?

I learned to code starting 5 years ago and it worked out for me.

Critically though, I think a very important thing for my case is that I actually found/developed a genuine passion and love for coding and IT in general. I feel like even back then and even more so now if you just got into it cause the whole logic of "coding -> many infinite jobs -> infinitely increasing wages from porky -> assured comfortable upper middle class lifestyle" without actually liking the field and the craft itself it will not work out well for you because that phenomena is definitely over now, if it even ever existed.

Still, like I say if you genuinely love this shit and have the willingness and ability to get real good at it long term it will probably still be a really good career path.

Not as a job in itself, there's no market for that, but coding is a basic life skill, so yeah you have to learn it. Bash and HTML at minimum.

>>1787
>HTML
not a programming language. You could've said at least said CSS3 which recently got functions (lol)

>>1788
Okay well then the minimum for programming is bash and the minimum for markup is HTML and markdown.

As a job? Only if you're a third worlder who can get a degree in tech for free and you have connections that can set you up for a job. Otherwise no. It's fun though, so maybe as a hobby.

>>1786
tbh, I hate computers (despite spending several hours a day on mine). But that’s more because the Internet sucks now than for any other reason. I feel like I like the idea of computing more than the modern reality of it. I do care enough about computing that I’ve bothered to install Fedora Workstation on my laptop and get used to GNOME despite not being a techy person at all. If I’m Autistic and enjoy solving problems do you think that I could enjoy coding?
>>1787
>>1790
In that case, what trade should I get into? I’m a skinny, weak, Canadian faggot and don’t want to destroy my body

>>1793
Also: I can follow instructions and solve abstract problems but I suck at solving practical problems

>>1793
i don't think it's a dead field yet but it certainly isn't what it used to be. like 10, maybe 5 years ago even, you could half-ass it and get your foot in the door then pivot instantly to a sales position, or take some scrum certification and pivot to a managerial position in IT and you'd do really fine, but currently the field is shedding people left and right, and will continue to do so, and you're competing against insane stackhanovists who think working weekends = being highly agentic. atm it's one of the worst fields to work in, as far as office jobs go at least. otoh you could probably get into data engineering who *seems* to have a bit more leverage and a bit more room to grow into highly specialized domains, and it sounds like it could probably suit your analytic mindset.

>>1783
I got into a software engineering bachelors cuz of the "i use computers, like linux and enjoy it" mentality. I like solving issues, troubleshooting, perhaps fixing some lines of code to modify some open source program, but thats it, I despised programming as a whole and dont think im suited for it, which is why I am switching to a bs career of international relations or something like that.

>>1812
The amount of AI bs that gets shoved down your throat in that field is repugnant, and the air of students with a mentality that is summarized to "are we cooked" is also discouraging. Job fairs and networking are a scam as well, you can basically have flawless grades and still be left empty handed.

>>1812
Why not just do tech support? You get to solve problems and not program

>>1814
I worked as tech support too, but it was for an ISP which was literal hell, and a front to do selling as well.

>>1794
You will fit right in

>>1783
ive been thinking about learning cod but dont know wher to start :[

>>1793
>In that case, what trade should I get into? I’m a skinny, weak, Canadian faggot and don’t want to destroy my body
Try to get a degree in electrical or mechanical or energy engineering and move abroad

>>1812
Just go for circuit design or embedded systems and shit. AI is bad at doing those and will be for a long time. Also higher barrier of entry so no bootcampers to do the jobs for cheaper.

>>1783
I learned HTML back in the day for my neopets page and myspace page but I think it's worthless now. I don't now anything about current web design.