/labor/ - Labor

>>1158
Why does LeftyPol suggest population control of males to control inceldom but then get offended at the offer of population control relative to a dwindling job market

>>1160
They really seemed to discourage working in HS so much. I grew up in California and you needed a permission slip from your school to get a job. The conditions were that your grades needed to by high enough. Isn't that ironic? The people that weren't on the road to college and all that were the ones they kept from getting minimum wage positions before they hit 18 and their parents kick them out or whatever might happen to them.

>>1163
Oh yeah and that's some shit too. We should definitely have some kind of housing for people once they hit 18 and their parents can legally turn them out on their ass and these kids have no credit history or no idea how to get get a bank account, file taxes, pass credit checks, blahh blahh whatever minimum shit they need to know to at least be able to pay for a roof over their head.

>>1164
And I mean we should have one specifically for these like 18-22 year olds or whatever combined with a program aiding them to learn how to do the basics of paying your way in life with no family to help you.

>>1165
Already no the answer to why we don't have these things:
>If that was available, why would anyone join the military?
Yet people still don't. It would be much better if all these people didn't get their start to their adult life in "street life" and all that kind of shit. Maybe the military should just pay more if they have trouble with recruiting.

>>276
>i think spam applying is more for new grads. Yeah you can 'reach out to hiring managers' if you have 5+ Years of experience and/or you personally know them
I can only speak for tech, but spam applying is a meme that just makes you depressed. It's the cause of those "I've applied to hundreds of jobs and only got a handful of callbacks" sob stories. That and most STEM grads being entitled pricks who won't accept a job they think is beneath them. One well crafted email to the manager or HR is worth at least 10 spam applications and takes less time.

>>1163
>>1164
>>1166
Secondary school (grade six thru twelve) should have mandatory life skill training.
Community service should be done as a substitute for class time during spring semester.

>>1168
>That and most STEM grads being entitled pricks who won't accept a job they think is beneath them. One well crafted email to the manager or HR is worth at least 10 spam applications and takes less time.


This sounds like something a boomer would say.
And ironically, it's always the more senior experienced college educated workers who seem to have the most entitlement.

Am over a hundred applications in, so needless to say have some experience \s.
So far my tips are as follows:
- Through nepotism or other questionable means secure something like a very part time internship.
- Pretend this internship was actually a job, and that you have experience.
- Spend all of your spare energy, which you should have a lot of, coding.
- Pay special attention to what employers are asking for in their listings, and learn this stuff.
- Use AIder to generate most of your code.
- Enroll in an online graduate program so that you can pretend you're really a graduate student.
- Use Jobright or another AI platform to rewrite your resume, and generate cover letters for you to edit.
- Spam apply to anyone using your tech stack.
- Use family connections to get a professional at a staffing agency to help you.
- Drink lots of coffee.
There, these are my tips, and soon you'll be over one hundred just like me!

>>1173
>Spend all of your spare energy, which you should have a lot of, coding.
>Pay special attention to what employers are asking for in their listings, and learn this stuff.
Diamond in the ruff, guess.

>>1172
It's true though, both parts.
>most STEM grads being entitled pricks who won't accept a job they think is beneath them
Knew so many people in my program who looked down on me for taking a university IT job. Some of them still unemployed when I left that job after half a year
>One well crafted email to the manager or HR is worth at least 10 spam applications and takes less time
You might as well copy paste your resume into the trash can if you don't try to put it in front of a human. Only using ATS is a retard filter. The HR guy at my old job told me as much (before they stopped hiring and started outsourcing to latam).

>>1175
>IT job.
Isn't "using someone else's PC" a totally different skill set from programming?
How could you get a job where your qualifications are completely orthogonal?
e.g. wtf is active registry, just know it's somehow related to gconf which had never been installed on my machine?
And there's apparently a whole suite of Microsoft tools for when LaTeX isn't installed, etc.
And then there's the part where you're supposed to explain things to people.

>>1175
>most STEM grads being entitled pricks who won't accept a job they think is beneath them
A bad job can potentially pigeonhole your career and doom you to a dead-end niche which will be hard to get out of

>>1175
>It's true though, both parts.


Which "both parts"?
Alot of STEM grass are stuck in deadens jobs with suboptimal pay and they're accused of entitlement?

Waiting anxiously for two follow-up responses for two seperate applications right now after fast and initially positive feedbacks. My contract at my current company is set to expire in 8 weeks.

50 job applications later and only two interviews, one of which hasn't got back to me with an interview date, and the other of which was a ten minute Q&A for a kitchen porter role.

Every care home in the region is also flooded with migrant labour so there are no roles going either.

I'll take anything holy shit.

>>1239
A 1:25 ratio isn't that bad in this hellscape of an economy. Good going, comrade! Keep it up. I know it may be a stretch and a 'don't you think I already tried that' but have you asked your parents or close friends? A metaphorical LFG IRL. When I got out of college and couldn't find work in my field, I asked my bar buddy if I could have a job and I was a waiter the next week. Most of the jobs I've had in my profession have been from knowing someone who is looking for someone to hire, but they want some kind of social proof that the person isn't fucking crazy. Are there any local shops you frequent? Like a corner store or comic book shop where they know you? Do you have any friends who run their own business and you offer to be their bitch? (the soft and hard skills from secretarial work will be helpful when you have to do it all yourself in the era of personal computing)
>>1237
Keep applying to other jobs while you wait on the good ones. It will occupy your time and give a back up to your backup.

I have a profile that might get me an internship at a very high profile government institution.

But what's the point? Is entryism still a thing? Isn't this like getting a job and being subsumed at the Nazi Ministry of Air Defense?

>>59
What about doing help desk for like a year or two with the intention of becoming a Linux SysAdmin?

>>1237
Just had an online interview that went very well

I started my PhD program back in 2021 when everything was still in lockdown. I crashed out because I left all of my old friends and didn't know how to make new ones. I was just stressed out and isolated all the time and I didn't feel like I belonged there so I couldn't study well. It's been over a year since my graduation I had a job as an adjunct professor but I fucking sucked at it and was consistently late in my grading so they didn't take me back for the fall. Wtf am I supposed to do? I just feel like a shell of my former self. The only friend I have is my bro and he has his own life/responsibilities. I feel like my degree is useless and I don't even feel like I don't even deserve it because I basically got it as a consolation prize. I would like to take on programming since I actually did pretty well with that in college but it seems like that's going to be replaced with AI so what am I supposed to do?

>>1270
just curious what did you struggle with about adjuncting? how many courses did you take on? were you able to write your own syllabus?

but sorry to hear it anon, really hope things turn around for you

>>1248
Personal interview next week.

I am dying.

These multiple round interviews are bs. Passed a 30 minute phone screen and a 3 person panel interview already. Now I gotta wait to see if I hear back again for another 6 person panel interview. Its like being an actor, now i gotta put on another show.

If all goes well though I get to manage 6 facilities and hopefully they pay around 150g's

>>1288
Update, followed up after the 2nd web screen and they didnt give it to me. Fuckin assholes, its crazy how they even found someone else, the role was super niche. Its literally ogre if they're able to fill such obscure nicheass roles with ease these days

>>41
Why not acquire NEETbux and then use the cushion to salt shitty minimum wage jobs? You could be a hero.

I just want a house before powel's retard replacement lowers rates to 0 and they get even more fuckoff expensive than they are now.

>>1244
Will you help people in that role, will you reduce harm to others?
>>1270
I had the realization yesterday that I should treat myself as I do my friends, the kind I would show up at the drop of a hat for. This, so far, has helped me get stuff done and move forward instead of wallowing while work goes unfinished. You have a skillset, and if it was your friend in this situation, you would tell them to get back on the teaching horse, you would tell them to read books on teaching, to hone their craft, you would tell them all the parts of the job they were good at and to work on the parts that need improvement. You wouldn't just tell them they suck ass and life sucks. Treat yourself like your best friend.

My advice to you is to go to a used book store and pick up a book on teaching and start applying to other schools. You got this bud.

>>1172
>This sounds like something a boomer would say.
There's some kernel of truth to it: compsci graduates have highest unemployment numbers (7%) vs anyone graduating from a humanities major BUT humanities graduates have higher underemployment numbers than compsci graduates meaning that there's a greater chance that a humanities graduate will take any job vs a compsci graduate which will rather remain unemployed and bide their time

I dunno where else to vent, my workplace is going to shit and I feel like I'm going to be jobless soon, I started interviewing but I feel so nervous that I fucked up a leetcode easy, it wasn't even DP related, I just froze in the spot. I have no idea what will next year even look like

Just had an interview at a lab, they straight-up told me they don't have a job for me and that I just try again in 4 months for the coming 6 months period. They still showed me around for an entire hour and gave me all their personal contact information. Weirdest interview experience so far.

I'm tired of failing to get a good job. Even if I get a good job, what will be it, realistically? Probably $3k monthly at best where I am, in IT. In a very lucky scenario maybe $5k or $7k but that's entering "purely theoretical" territory.
Anyway, I'm tired.
How do I start dealing drugs? I heard they earn shittons of money. Where to get started?

>>31
anons where do i get online jobs or how do i make money online
i am a neet with no previous experience, dropped out from HS

>>1388
Prediction:
1. Get rich quick schemes don't work.
2. Mail metadata is logged. One way export flags you. Many consumers flags you.
3. Risk requires reward. Jail is brutal.

My advice: Install Solar Panels for a living. Wait until AGI and UBI.

>>1385
That employer is trying to obtain H1B visas. To do that, they have show they tried to fill the position, but no one was qualified.

>>1480
You can try Fiverr or Mechanical Turk, but the payout is VERY low after all the deductions, maybe half of minimum wage?

You can try small engine, boat engine, or lawnmower repair. Obtain junk from Craigslist, fix it up, sell it for a profit. You may need to invest in tools and knowledge to make the best use of something like that though.

You can use the internet to find tax sales and estate sales. Sometimes you can find valuables here that are sold so cheaply, you can turn right around and sell them for a profit. However, you may need to invest time in learning what to look for and what not to be fooled by.

You can do OnlyFans. Consider doing feet only or similar content if you're shy. Don't forget to write off any purchases on your taxes.

The good thing about not having skills is that you're free to learn whatever you want and build something that's yours. The bad thing about not having skills is, you're very limited in the ways you can make good money to start out.

>>1388
It's easy. Pull up your local crime map and find the reddest area nearby. Next, go to the ATM and take out as much cash as you can (drug dealers only take cash). Now, go to that red part of town, make sure to dress nice and wear your most valuable clothes and jewelry, then start talking to people. Let all of them know you're looking to become a drug dealer, tell them how much money you have and tell them you'd like to buy some drugs with it. They'll be happy to tell you what to do from there.

Humorous Job Boards Attached.

What transportation do you have for your wagie cagie job?

>>1928
I bet if you choose anything but car they'll disqualify you.

>>1360
Anyone choosing to study humanities for a career is of questionable intelligence in terms of life skills

Any other doctors here? About to be starting as a GP soon

Career Assessment:
Bad option 1 VS Bad Option 2
Pick the one you are most like.

Goals: Prevent optimizing for HR's perception by forcing a user to pick something bad.

I'm currently pursuing a Chemistry degree with no real goal in mind for what to do once I graduate, in my head I have vague ideas of working with industrial chemical manufacturing or maybe pursuing nuclear chemistry but I know very little about both and there might be better options out there

>>2260
Make drugs.

>>2261
This cannot be my only option

>>2260
As a Chemistry grad the only advice I can give you is immediately pivot to a more applied sub-field when it comes to getting experience if you actually want to be employable at one point. The classic lab head/synthesis career is dead unless you want to spend a decade in academia and then maybe you might make it in something like drug design. With a Bachelor's and no other experiences there are only badly paid quality assurance/analytics jobs and in (chemical) industry engineering grads are vastly preferred over physical scientists because they can actually build/manage industrial plants.

Unless you don't want to be stuck being a waste water technician at your municipal treatment plant you need to pivot to fields that are a bit removed from classical chemistry such as materials science and engineering (energy materials, metallurgy, plastics, composites, etc. for example), semiconductors, electrochemistry/battery tech or thin film/deposition technology are way more employable than the classical chemistry route and in the areas of the aforementioned areas you are competing with people that have done more adequate majors.

Industry experience is nowadays way more important than virtually anything including what your actual STEM diploma says. If you are set on radiochemistry please for the love of got get one, two or three internships in adjacent industries that deal with it like in radiopharmacy, oncology and medical/clinical imagining or in the nuclear industry if your country has one before you even remotely think about graduating.

I'm working at Goodwill after being unemployed for almost 2 years due to a mental breakdown and I want to kill myself more than I ever have in my life (and I used to work in a 110+ degree fahrenheit UPS warehouse loading trucks every day of the week). When I was in high school I thought I wanted to be a firefighter, so I went to college for "arson investigation" (maybe the most horrifically stupid decision of my life, I don't know why I didn't just go to fire academy), I got lucky and was able to browbeat the college into refunding some of my tuition but I still have some college debt. Since then I've just been working go-nowhere jobs. I'm lucky enough to live with my parents and only have to pay car insurance and some college debt, no other bills. I don't think I have what it takes to go back to fire academy, I lost a lot of weight from not eating for days and I don't think I might be too mentally enfeebled and retarded now to handle such a tough job like that. I've considered joining the IBEW chapter in my location but I'm not sure if I want to waste my youth and my body doing something like that, but it would be secure and actually be a useful skill. Sometimes I fantasize about having a desk job in a field like IT or something but I feel like I would get laid off quick. I've considered going back to UPS to be a delivery driver but I'd probably have to work loading again for a few months before they let me do that and I need a CDL, and I'm worried that self driving trucks and shit will replace delivery gigs in the next decade or two. What do I even do?

>>2266
*Think I might be too mentally enfeebled