Career - job/career advice and other related stuff from a leftist perspective. EX: How to get a job, promotion, skill, switch companies, resume, life hacks, etc.
>>32Back to finance/business as the "new frontier" that digital media provided is now past its gold rush phase.
we could also see the people shilling "influencer" careers come to the fore, though this would be a tacit admission that most of us will ide in poverty
>>54>It's absolutely retarded to hate NEETsnope
neets are reactionary and counter to any strong class movements. they be rather comfortable and complacent
>>58honestly as an entry level the most common entry point is something like helpdesk i.e. the A+.
other common entry points are network using something like CCNA (better) or comptia Network+.
Honestly you'll probably start at around $20-$22/hr or so, even in a place like NYC. But in 5+ years you might move up to like $40/hr or more.
other entry level stuff might be something like data center technician. Very similar certs (A+/N+ or CCNA)
you didn't pick a very good time to join IT, if this was 2019 it would have been alot better
good luck anon
>>43Software dev aint cushy if you also find it boring. Ask yourself do you really have the personality to sit at your PC and focus all day.
>>59this.
>>67>cybersecurityEntry level cybersecurity is flooded.
One CYB guy I know of is selling cars, another is supporting Epic Deployments in a non-security role.
If I had to guess, Solar Panel Installation, Electrical Engineering for AI, Lineman for AI data centers, Robotics, and maybe Plumbing?
>>71getting that kind of job is really hard anon. Thinktanks typically recruit people with advanced degrees and there's way more opportunities on the right wing side because of oil baron money. and even the left is more 'center left' aka neoliberals.
If you're asking to work for a marxist think tank or something I'm pretty sure one doesn't exist and even relatively redpill libs like the EPI aren't hiring generally.
So in reality making bux and volunteer activism may be your only choice.
>>72>any tips getting into the aviation mechanic business as an american? I'm getting my A&P cert in just a few months. I plan on working at major airliners one day.if you have all appropriate licenses just apply I guess? I don't know about this field so my only advice would be don't be afraid to move anywhere in the country or even to other countries to get a job.
>>77Ive been Jobless for 4 years. During that time i did almost everything to pull myself out of this fuck.
I tried work at McDonalds, Built PCs for a company, too many stints at grocery stores. Even did some charity work. I was willing to do ANYTHING to have food on my plate.
Its been a really depressing period of my life and i dont want this to happen again.
During that time calling myself a working man felt absolutely wrong. I felt worthless without labor, to the point i wanted to kms mutliple times. If you ask anyone i know they would describe me as a complete workaholic.
>>79>Petit bourgeois refers to small scale owners of capitalyou are a retarded burger
>It doesn't refer to slightly better off workers.no worker who earns enough to be able to save reserves or buy property is proletarian, whether they are smart enough to do so or spend their money on other shit is irrelevant to this descriptor. clearly their "weal and woe" doesnt hinge entirely on selling their labor power
>>81>Thats a moronic definition if I ever heard. stated by marx, engels, lenin, et al repeatedly. maybe youre the moron if you believe people who arent facing immiseration will risk their lives trying to take down capitalism
>>82you are reducing proletarians to a single thing and ignore all the rest of marxist class analysis because it doesnt fit your liberal democratic conception of "the masses" lol
>>84moralism is basing your politics on the idea of morals being objective you fucking pseud, wheres the moralism here?
>>85>>86shut the fuck up retard
>>89please show me where marx states proletarians are solely defined by their "relations to productions" (?)
its also not a neither or. if you can acquire property with your money then you clearly arent proletarian. only retarded libshits analyze things this way where someone can go from being proletarian to petit-bourgeois and back by doing things differently with their reserves and property
the vast majority of people, including self proclaimed communists, havent read marx or even any political economists. they are workerists, they think being a wage slave is something to be proud of, rather than a great misfortune
>>90>please show me where marx states proletarians are solely defined by their "relations to productions"In Principles of Communism Engels discusses the distinction between proletarians and other working classes (slaves, serfs, artisans, etc) exclusively in terms of their relationship to the means of production. The emphasis on being reserveless is just a descriptor of the predominant conditions of most workers at the time. Even workers with savings are still ultimately dependent on selling their labour power, and have an inherent class antagonism with their employer.
>only retarded libshits analyze things this way where someone can go from being proletarian to petit-bourgeois and back by doing things differently with their reserves and propertyAccording to your logic a slave who lives well and has a relatively high personal income (e.g. the head house slave on a plantation) isn't a slave anymore, even though they remain the property of their owner.
>>89Apparently making very little money isn't at all relevant when determining who is a
reserveless wage labourer. Even Engels specifically says the home-owning wage earner isn't a prole.
A proletarian is someone who is reserveless, whose very life and death depends on the momentary changes in demand for their labour.
This is what makes them a revolutionary element within bourgeois society. By contrast ‘wage-worker’ is a broad category that can embrace anyone from a capitalist who draws wages for supervisory work to a petty-bourgeois who works a job on the side, etc.
People really will strip Marx's analysis down to its barest and most digestible just to imply shit like a university student who can look forwards to making good money (and maybe acquiring a home or something of the sorts) in the future have the same outlook and class interests as an impoverished factory worker.
>>92>Even Engels specifically says the home-owning wage earner isn't a prole.Where?
>A proletarian is someone who is reserveless, whose very life and death depends on the momentary changes in demand for their labourHow does that not apply to somebody with a mortgage and savings? Losing their job would still ruin them, just not as quickly.
>This is what makes them a revolutionary element within bourgeois society. Your mistake is equating being a prole with being revolutionary. The fact that the proletariat is the revolutionary subject doesn't mean all proles are revolutionary all the time.
>By contrast ‘wage-worker’ is a broad category that can embrace anyone from a capitalist who draws wages for supervisory work to a petty-bourgeois who works a job on the sideExcept both those people are capital owners and thus not proletarians.
>>94University students usually aren't proletariat.
A lot of university graduates pursue non-technical careers.
>>97That's not what I mean. I mean that the fields they're going for.
Also, being an economic dependent doesn't make you not a prole.
Adolescents are legally banned from working.
Yet they're accused of being leeches.
But ok, if students are not proletariat, neither are the elderly.
>>102>omg I'm rising in the middle-class ranks and now I feel guilty about itWho cares.
>>103>still a workerGood thing communism isn't about literally all wage workers. We gonna support cops now too?
>>120I am getting certs. But he also mentions that the
most entry level job he found requires 3 years of experience, which I dont have.
>>117Building off this, how do you find a job that's tolerable under capitalism? Is it impossible?
I mean I'm planning to talk to a career counselor at school but I feel like everything I'd want to do is impossible at the moment.
>>128I get that, but how much is too much?
Can i get away with lying about my qualifications?
>>142Check to see if they're demanding more years of experience than the technology existed for.
If they are just lie, anybody else who is getting that job is going to do the same thing.
>>143To be honest my college experience was mostly my family going directly to the administration and saying I’d take accounting (later marketing when I flunked out of that) and kind of strongarming me through a mix of social and financial pressure to go along with it. I was an idiot kid who went into college right out of highschool and didn’t really stand up for myself.
>>144I just might. At this point I’m so fucking exhausted with this horseshit I’ll do just about anything to escape it.
>>149In my case it was a mixture of boasting about how good I was doing in a beginner’s accounting class at a family event (mostly to prove I wasn’t wasting any financial help) and then kind of lowkey assuming “autistic people are good with math like Rain Man or The Accountant”
What’s really killing me is I’ve got this dead end retail job, and I’m still talking with my mom and she’s all “But you’re so so so smart, don’t wind stuck in this like us.”
Fuck.
>>152Eh bro, I'm in your shoes but I'm older than you and I don't even have a bachelors so chin up. There are other things besides math. I was done with math in 6th grade. I'm not sure if you heard of "math field day" but it's a math competition and I was on the team in like 4th and 5th grade then in 6th grade, my first grade in middle school, I was put as an alternate and I just sat at the comp doing nothing the whole day and that was the last time I really invested in math. I'm alright math but I like to learn it as I need it and that works perfectly fine for me. I always was too critical while learning: "What do I need this shit for?" and really I don't need any of that shit and I can just look up equations and plug in variables as I need it.
>What’s really killing me is I’ve got this dead end retail job, and I’m still talking with my mom and she’s all “But you’re so so so smart, don’t wind stuck in this like us.”Be smart with money my friend. That's the main smart you need. Be smart with money and in business. A lot of people got rich who aren't super geniuses. Yes, to have a pure idea you can take to someone and sell for cash is nearly impossible. With business or money you can just invest in someone's idea, steal someone's idea and do it/promote it slightly differently or even the same and get rich. You have to have resources to invest yourself unless you have some rich benefactor or something. My dad's friend from the old country that lived in the same neighborhood as us, he got in the cab business, buying a cab, leasing it to a driver. My dad tried the same business at that level and only got as far as owning the cab and he had to drive it when he couldn't find a driver so he end up selling it, well his friend turned it into owning a cab garage, he bought a second home in the neighborhood while my dad sold our home and bought a house in another state for less than half the price. He also has some friends that got uber rich of real estate investments. Money, money, money. Go into business for yourself.
>>169Go for federal work.
Serious they'll be needing applicants soon.
>>264OK OP hang in there long term career wise your future is looking 👌
After what's happened who wants to work in the public sector, the only benefit over the private sector it had was job security and a sense of purpose in public service.
Just spam apply, lie on your resume if you have to to get interviews, just use those interviews as Training runs.
As in, you don't want this thalomide job anyway but you want to do a bit of basic research about the position and the specific enterprise beforehand and bombard them with questions, pay conditions, what do you do? Why do you do it and if it's for this reason this way would work better.
>>127Somewhere in Africa or Asia, some random dude hired themselves by building their own home outside of a city’s borders and digging their own property.
It’s never over as long as you still have your body
>>274>>276You can also go over their heads.
>>286Just use different accounts for your resume spam and for serious business.
>>76its in your rational interest to look for higher income as long as you dont sell out your coworkers and, if you reach a higher up position, help them as much as you can. There are human bosses but never forget that in a systemic and global way, the class struggle is still real even if you got the better cut as a laborer.
>>77wrong, to be a petit burgeoise you have to own means of production, a high salary worker does not own anything besides his technical skilled labor
>>64How did that go?
>>76> IT support 1st level here for a company> Am i being turned into a labor aristocrat?Anon please, the labour aristrocracy is an abused classification. You're just a prole who was lucky enough to get a decent boss
>>77>>80Why do all morons think that proletarian, bourgeois and labour aristocrat categories are descriptors of one's side in the class war, instead of being the various factions of society than already exist?
You can have class traitors all over the place, from police to Engels
>>1071It is.
The fact that it's been commonalised by childrearing adults for labor instead of students is part of why
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