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Not reporting is bourgeois


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Career - job/career advice and other related stuff from a leftist perspective. EX: How to get a job, promotion, skill, switch companies, resume, life hacks, etc.

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so, now that the learn to code meme is dead and the tech career is over, whats the next meme thing to get into be? trades?

>>32
Back to finance/business as the "new frontier" that digital media provided is now past its gold rush phase.
we could also see the people shilling "influencer" careers come to the fore, though this would be a tacit admission that most of us will ide in poverty

The glorification of informal labour by market socialist and liberal think tanks is obnoxious. Informal ‘work’ in manual labour, agriculture, or whatever migrants are forced to put up with is a only barely more productive than the bullshit office jobs bureaucrats, landlords, and corporat rats make up for themselves to justify money laundering.

Most informal jobs barely last a few months or even a few weeks. Putting them on a resume will get you blacklisted from most companies. The pay is mediocre or outright shit, and expect harassment for bringing PPE by managers looking to avoid accountability if someone gets hurt. These days, shitloads of heavy industry jobs are getting ‘informalized’ by dicks looking to exploit displaced people or migrants desperate enough for work or citizenship.

Only the fucking unionized and government subsidized jobs actually have any resemblance of professionalism and formality.

>>32
there's nothing. it's over.

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>>32
>he thinks learn to code is dead
Filtered.

>>36
im sure you totally missed the massive numbers of tech workers getting laid off and that the tech market is still shit

>>31
>from a leftist perspective
What does that even mean in this context?

>>38
It means that we recognize the inherently exploitative nature of work. Thanks to leftist analysis you can see through corporate bullshit and secure the survival or you and your fellow workers.

I wish I was smart enough for coding.

The only right move for a Leftist in regards to works is aquire NEETbux and quit the working world.

>>41
That's ideal for a lot of people but what percentage even live off NEETbux successfully? Where I'm from it's difficult as hell to get approval and even then you are only getting maybe half a liveable amount. The only people I know who do this well live with their parents

is a compsci bachelor's a meme? i think i have a shot at it, and i dont mind a cushy if boring desk job that lets me have lots of disposable income

>>42
I think in the USA you can get quit a frugal life on NEETbux, Section 8 and Food Stamps, you can game the system and live off as a NEET ok in the USA, the only places where you truly can thrive on NEETbux are the Nordics countries in Europe.

Acquire NEETbux and quit the working world, don't support the capitalism system by being another work drone.

>>45
>>44
>>2033816
>>41
lumps get the wall

>>44
you cant have food stamps without an income so youd need at least a part time job.

>>47
wrong

>>46
>T. capitalist afraid of NEETs

>>49
neets contribute nothing and and hurt real prols retard

>>50
>you have to contriboooot!!!! NEETs are evil because… b-becuase they don't work for anyone and just lay low and enjoy life

How the hell NEETs hurts the proletariat, last time I checked NEETs don't make some boss or CEO rich or get exploited.

>>47
ppl with disabilities are exempt

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>>51
>How the hell NEETs hurts the proletariat,
neets live off their folks or friends who actually work and in general are a burden. this is also not mentioning that 80% are like incel chud tier who shit up every website they visit.

>>53
It's absolutely retarded to hate NEETs when mass unemployment and reserve army of labour is literally a built in feature of neoliberalism.

>>54
>It's absolutely retarded to hate NEETs
nope
neets are reactionary and counter to any strong class movements. they be rather comfortable and complacent

my job is combating kkkanadian-mekkksickan kkkounter revolutionary reakkktionary revisionist retarded reformist kkkrypto trotskkkyite satauyghamalist bidenomikkk trickkknologists with trumpian thaumaturgy and donald divination. uphold Q thought.

>>56
oh hello

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Requesting tech bro assistance
Which entry-level IT certificates can realistically land a decent-paying job within, say, 6 months for someone without any college education? And which jobs? By decent-paying, I mean something that meets a living wage (single, no dependents), not some $250,000/yr, WFH, FAANG bullshit. I live in a a tech-y metropolitan area in the United States and I don't have any particular preferences about which part of tech sector at the moment. A viable path to six figures with a college education down the line is a big plus however since I will have aging family members to care for eventually. I'm currently working 45-50 hours a week as a barista between two jobs and the pay is so shit. I just want out.

>>58
honestly as an entry level the most common entry point is something like helpdesk i.e. the A+.

other common entry points are network using something like CCNA (better) or comptia Network+.

Honestly you'll probably start at around $20-$22/hr or so, even in a place like NYC. But in 5+ years you might move up to like $40/hr or more.

other entry level stuff might be something like data center technician. Very similar certs (A+/N+ or CCNA)

you didn't pick a very good time to join IT, if this was 2019 it would have been alot better


good luck anon

>>43
Software dev aint cushy if you also find it boring. Ask yourself do you really have the personality to sit at your PC and focus all day.

>>59
this.

>>58
If you had a degree, doesn't even matter which field, you could get an entry level job as a Data Analyst with a PowerBI Data Analyst Associate Cert (and optionally coupled with a Tableau Cert) by just knowing PowerBI and SQL. You wouldn't even need to know how to program. You could still try without a degree though and target small companies.

>>37
oh no, all the cybersecurity majors that think the market wants novices and will pay $200k/yr for them while not having foundational skills

>>60
it's cushy because you don't have to sit or focus all day, i work maybe 10% of the time

THEY'RE DOING LAYOFFS AT MY COMPANY AND IM PROBABLY GONNA LOSE MY JOB!

>>64
start growing and selling psilocybin mushrooms. after accumulating enough cash start mass manufacturing them. Acquire an armed retinue of hotties like Gaddafi. Start the psychedelic Mafia. indoctrinate people into Shroom Dengism. Get into a turf war with Acid Marxists.

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"Fluent in standard American English, with no foreign accent."

Least racist American Job Posting.

>>32
prolly data analysis, cybersecurity, embedded programming, or just your usual jobs at places with lots of business logic and/or onerous regulatory processess such as banks or fintech

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Easy Apply but have 3 references, dox their address, and describe them.

>>67
>cybersecurity
Entry level cybersecurity is flooded.

One CYB guy I know of is selling cars, another is supporting Epic Deployments in a non-security role.

If I had to guess, Solar Panel Installation, Electrical Engineering for AI, Lineman for AI data centers, Robotics, and maybe Plumbing?

>>66
Cope, no one is obligated to understand you fuckin accent, you sound like a annoying person to be around to pick one something so little

I have a STEM + economics minor background but I want to do an internship at some more policy-adjacent institute or organization. Does this make me a total retard to even bother with bourgeois institutions instead of making bux and continuing in volunteer activism? There are some interesting research orgs run by my industrial labor union that look at stuff from a 'labor perspective', but anything international like orgs in fields such as so-called peace studies and non-proliferation etc. , have dubious affiliations (transatlantic or weirdo billionaires) or straight-up sound like glowie recruitment stations, lmao. Should I move to China? Lol. I feel like I am still spooked by some false sense of self-actualization…

>>31
any tips getting into the aviation mechanic business as an american? I'm getting my A&P cert in just a few months. I plan on working at major airliners one day.

>>71
getting that kind of job is really hard anon. Thinktanks typically recruit people with advanced degrees and there's way more opportunities on the right wing side because of oil baron money. and even the left is more 'center left' aka neoliberals.

If you're asking to work for a marxist think tank or something I'm pretty sure one doesn't exist and even relatively redpill libs like the EPI aren't hiring generally.

So in reality making bux and volunteer activism may be your only choice.

>>72
>any tips getting into the aviation mechanic business as an american? I'm getting my A&P cert in just a few months. I plan on working at major airliners one day.
if you have all appropriate licenses just apply I guess? I don't know about this field so my only advice would be don't be afraid to move anywhere in the country or even to other countries to get a job.

>>73
oh I know that I just meant like is there a route that people typically go through and if there's any stuff I should learn about or do after I get my certs to help with my jobs. I already got a job lined up after I graduate (from the trade school), but I'm doing it for experience only with badass jets before I move to a job to make crazy union money.

Kill your boss, eat their heart in front on your coworkers, become new boss.

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IT support 1st level here for a company

i just came out of a really struggling jobless phase and of our horrid job economy that only seeks cheap labor and nothing else

im actually glad i found that job

boss is actually a nice person whos willing to lend you a ear after a long hard day of work, even in private. sees how hard im working and actually tells me: relax dude, youre doing well, you dont have to worry about losing this job, pay is more than livable.
first day of working, i came in wearing a suit, boss said: what are you wearing that for? dress how you want.

it makes me think of how many of my fellow working class dont have the pleasure to work under an actual human, and not a greedy snobby pig.

It also worries me. Am i turning into a cog in the system i hated for 10 years of my life? Am i being turned into a labor aristocrat?

>>76
>It also worries me. Am i turning into a cog in the system i hated for 10 years of my life? Am i being turned into a labor aristocrat?
if by that word salad you mean if you are petit bourgeois then obviously, but if you are a marxist who has actually studied the class struggle then not much should change

>>77
Ive been Jobless for 4 years. During that time i did almost everything to pull myself out of this fuck.

I tried work at McDonalds, Built PCs for a company, too many stints at grocery stores. Even did some charity work. I was willing to do ANYTHING to have food on my plate.

Its been a really depressing period of my life and i dont want this to happen again.

During that time calling myself a working man felt absolutely wrong. I felt worthless without labor, to the point i wanted to kms mutliple times. If you ask anyone i know they would describe me as a complete workaholic.

>>77
>if by that word salad you mean if you are petit bourgeois then obviously
Petit bourgeois refers to small scale owners of capital, its literally in the name. It doesn't refer to slightly better off workers.

>>79
>Petit bourgeois refers to small scale owners of capital
you are a retarded burger

>It doesn't refer to slightly better off workers.

no worker who earns enough to be able to save reserves or buy property is proletarian, whether they are smart enough to do so or spend their money on other shit is irrelevant to this descriptor. clearly their "weal and woe" doesnt hinge entirely on selling their labor power

>>80
>no worker who earns enough to be able to save reserves or buy property is proletarian
Thats a moronic definition if I ever heard. There are degrees to proletarisation, someone earning above bare subsistence wage doenst magically turn them not proles.

>>80
>clearly their "weal and woe" doesnt hinge entirely on selling their labor power
Yes it does unless they have an alternative source of income. Proletarians survive by selling their labour power, that reality doesn't change just because they have some savings that could tide them over for a few months if they lost their jobs. Their ultimate future still depends on their employment.


>>80
>no worker who earns enough to be able to save reserves or buy property is proletarian
Moralism

>>81
Net incomes are bourgeois. Hoarding is most primitive form of accumulation.

>>84
Not moraliam. Having net incomee is definite condition of exploitor classes. They generate net incomes by hoarding stealing etc.

>>81
>Thats a moronic definition if I ever heard.
stated by marx, engels, lenin, et al repeatedly. maybe youre the moron if you believe people who arent facing immiseration will risk their lives trying to take down capitalism

>>82
you are reducing proletarians to a single thing and ignore all the rest of marxist class analysis because it doesnt fit your liberal democratic conception of "the masses" lol

>>84
moralism is basing your politics on the idea of morals being objective you fucking pseud, wheres the moralism here?

>>85
>>86
shut the fuck up retard

>>87
>because it doesnt fit your liberal democratic conception of "the masses" lol
Imagine calling other people liberals while arguing that class is determined by income and not relations of production.

>>89
please show me where marx states proletarians are solely defined by their "relations to productions" (?)

its also not a neither or. if you can acquire property with your money then you clearly arent proletarian. only retarded libshits analyze things this way where someone can go from being proletarian to petit-bourgeois and back by doing things differently with their reserves and property

the vast majority of people, including self proclaimed communists, havent read marx or even any political economists. they are workerists, they think being a wage slave is something to be proud of, rather than a great misfortune

>>90
>please show me where marx states proletarians are solely defined by their "relations to productions"
In Principles of Communism Engels discusses the distinction between proletarians and other working classes (slaves, serfs, artisans, etc) exclusively in terms of their relationship to the means of production. The emphasis on being reserveless is just a descriptor of the predominant conditions of most workers at the time. Even workers with savings are still ultimately dependent on selling their labour power, and have an inherent class antagonism with their employer.
>only retarded libshits analyze things this way where someone can go from being proletarian to petit-bourgeois and back by doing things differently with their reserves and property
According to your logic a slave who lives well and has a relatively high personal income (e.g. the head house slave on a plantation) isn't a slave anymore, even though they remain the property of their owner.

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>>89
Apparently making very little money isn't at all relevant when determining who is a reserveless wage labourer. Even Engels specifically says the home-owning wage earner isn't a prole.
A proletarian is someone who is reserveless, whose very life and death depends on the momentary changes in demand for their labour. This is what makes them a revolutionary element within bourgeois society. By contrast ‘wage-worker’ is a broad category that can embrace anyone from a capitalist who draws wages for supervisory work to a petty-bourgeois who works a job on the side, etc.
People really will strip Marx's analysis down to its barest and most digestible just to imply shit like a university student who can look forwards to making good money (and maybe acquiring a home or something of the sorts) in the future have the same outlook and class interests as an impoverished factory worker.

>>92
>Even Engels specifically says the home-owning wage earner isn't a prole.
Where?
>A proletarian is someone who is reserveless, whose very life and death depends on the momentary changes in demand for their labour
How does that not apply to somebody with a mortgage and savings? Losing their job would still ruin them, just not as quickly.
>This is what makes them a revolutionary element within bourgeois society.
Your mistake is equating being a prole with being revolutionary. The fact that the proletariat is the revolutionary subject doesn't mean all proles are revolutionary all the time.
>By contrast ‘wage-worker’ is a broad category that can embrace anyone from a capitalist who draws wages for supervisory work to a petty-bourgeois who works a job on the side
Except both those people are capital owners and thus not proletarians.

>>92
>a university student who can look forwards to making good money (and maybe acquiring a home or something of the sorts
lol maybe in 1985, the university student of even 10 years ago would have been iffy about getting a house and now AI's probably automating that guys job and he's gonna end up working at a warehouse

>>94
University students usually aren't proletariat.
A lot of university graduates pursue non-technical careers.

>>90
This contempt towards working and blind reverence for non technical careers is telling of what kind of people come here

>>95
>University students usually aren't proletariat.
true, in the same way high school students aren't. They're economic dependents. Essentially they are extending their adolescence.

why do we always have the same retarded conversation, is it infracels

>>97
That's not what I mean. I mean that the fields they're going for.
Also, being an economic dependent doesn't make you not a prole.
Adolescents are legally banned from working.
Yet they're accused of being leeches.

But ok, if students are not proletariat, neither are the elderly.

I've spent 7 years on a masters degree and I get to work with spreadsheets. I'm applying for a doctorate, this is stupid.

maybe its not where they began

but


but where they ended up

they are turning me into a manager. I said okay. What do? How to not be a jerk? Any book to read? Or should I already gulag myself?

>>102
manager is still a worker, just become a PMC its ok, and use the extra money for good

>>102
>omg I'm rising in the middle-class ranks and now I feel guilty about it
Who cares.

>>103
>still a worker
Good thing communism isn't about literally all wage workers. We gonna support cops now too?

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>>100
>7 years on a masters
>I'm applying for a doctorate

my boss told me the highest paid at my company are quants and network engineers.

is this true?

>>100
>I've spent 7 years on a masters degree
Please tell me you were doing it part time or something.

Studying networking shit, many of those fucking jobs in this city involve serving the military. Once I graduate I'm probably just going to go back to the non military helpdesk I was working at last year for a bit, save some money and get the hell out

>>104
>Good thing communism isn't about literally all wage workers. We gonna support cops now too?
Go be pure and broke elsewhere

Been working here for 5 months, pay is great, amosphere amazing, unionized workplace. Now the company is getting restructurered. 1 out of the 4 divisions is getting sold and the third is getting merged with the other 2. Hold me /career/…

>>110
are you this guy? : >>64

>>69
>Lineman for AI data centers
I think microsoft, amazon and google have the monopoly on data centers. most infra people are overpaid desk jockeys messing around with terraform through an AWS or azure console.

>have seasonal job
>enjoy the break from working in the winter

>they are now making it permanent

I had so good now I might quit

Starting paramedic school in the fall? Anyone else a medic/EMT here?

I have a degree in social science, and now am doing online courses for data analysis (spreadsheets, SQL, R). Do you think there are some job opportunities for that? Where? I am increasingly skeptical of my ability to find decent employment.


I'm currently working in a call center doing technical support and while it probably could be a lot worse I really don't like it. Part of me wants to be an indie game dev but that's probably super unrealistic. If I'm going to have some other kind of job though I'd like to form a union because I feel like we really need more of them. I just really feel stuck at the moment.

I you want to see something that makes your blood boil, just check out the r/recruiting subreddit where all of reddit's finest HR/pmc parasites delight at misery of proles and playing little gods.

>>116
Thanks. Will be killing myself shortly.

>>119
No don't kys. Listen to this guy's advice, dammit. Get the certs he is recommending.

>>120
I am getting certs. But he also mentions that the most entry level job he found requires 3 years of experience, which I dont have.

>>121
He is talking about Data Engineering jobs, explaining that Data Engineering is not an entry level job in the first. His entire shtick is that neither Data Engineering, ML-Engineering or Data Base Administration are entry level jobs and that the only way to become in Data from scratch is to become a Data Analyst. So you have to look for Data Analyst jobs, not Data Engineering.

>>117
Building off this, how do you find a job that's tolerable under capitalism? Is it impossible?
I mean I'm planning to talk to a career counselor at school but I feel like everything I'd want to do is impossible at the moment.

This, this image hurts me so bad. Imagine how hard it is for youth to have to stomach the idea that they cannot expect to easily apply for work.

They have to manually search every company they find, read whatever the job wants, write out a cv and a resume, and potentially have to follow up themselves just to get hired so that they do not end up wasting months or years searching for work.

That is so unfair

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>>124
Oh yeah, here’s the image

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Based or cringe?

>>124
Yeah exactly. It's crazy. They say the number one thing for a president is "creating jobs." "Get a job you bum!" Yet why is there not a single PSA about how to get a job? What about people with no cars who live in areas with no public transit and limited jobs? What about a program to get those people from their home to their job? For all the bluster about jobs! jobs! jobs! We do nothing to help anyone get a job. Nevermind that once you're homeless, nobody is going to fucking hire you.

>>126
AND THIS FUCKING SHIT TOO! Everyone knows everyone is lying on the resume. But it's just accepted that's what you do. Like if a woman asks you if she looks good in some dress, you just say yes no matter how she looks. It's just one of those little white lies our society is run on! No wonder everyone is a crook. That's probably what they're screening for. They don't want someone too honest.

>>128
I get that, but how much is too much?
Can i get away with lying about my qualifications?

>>129
It depends, they may check they may not depending on the job or company. There are services and stuff that help people fake references. I have a friend who's a greencard holder and he was telling me about all that shit all those immigrants do faking resumes and degrees and whatever. He said his friend got caught because they were asking him way too many details for him to fake, but then the other jobs they didn't do that much digging. So obviously if you strike out with one employer, you're not going to stand a chance with them ever again, but there are a lot of employers out there and they don't have some centralized database they share about employees. It's all the due diligence of the hiring manager.

Role: 50K IT - Entry Level

"Please add your professional references. Professional references are current / former work supervisors who can speak to your employment history. Coworkers, colleagues, and personal friends are not considered professional references. As a general rule, two professional reference checks are required for external candidates."

Wagie, do you have 2 managers who are willing to break company policy and describe your labor?

>>69
>>112
I mean getting into data center works not a bad idea if you have a networking/server hardware background. beats helpdesk.

Just started working as a night auditor for a hotel chain. Never done this kind of job before, and I never worked at night.
Pros: there's very little to do, and the job is quite easy most of the nights.
Cons: getting used to sleep during the day to work at night is hard. I'm not planning to continue doing this once my contract expires. The pay is good, but not good enough to justify this.

I work in the public sector as maintenance. I suffer when my senior work partner wants to just drive around and talk shit instead of doing actual work. When I work time passes quickly when I dont it goes painfully slow.


>>131
Just use two friends to lie and say they were your managers. They’re “checking” is just calling the person

What's the general consensus on data entry jobs?
I really need to make a change from my technical support job.

>>137
Boring as dark and likely to be replaced by AI

>>137
dogshit and temporary. you will be laid off once the project is done (even if they claim it will "never be done" and your job is "secure"), so if you do take one make sure to keep looking elsewhere

>>138
>>139
Guess I'll keep my current job for now then.

>>135
Revolution in Turkey

>Look for jobs in my degree field
>2 years experience for entry level
>Pay less than what I make at a grocery store
>send resume
>then fill out an online application that asks for all the same info anyways
>Ghosted
>”Looking for candidates with experience using the [random piece of software it seems only this company uses] system”
>Family can’t offer advice beyond “have you tried calling them?” Or “give their manager a firm handshake”
>Other advice: “Why not go back to school and earn your masters?”
>More debt, not even all that good at my degree field
>Friends in the same boat as me
>Best he can come up with is either becoming a cop or doing dangerous contracting work
Jesus fuck they really don’t want anyone escaping the service sector.

>>142
Yuhh fucked up when you didn't get an internship while in school.

>>142
Check to see if they're demanding more years of experience than the technology existed for.
If they are just lie, anybody else who is getting that job is going to do the same thing.

>>144
>just lie
literally this. most of the time they don't even check for a diploma

I didn't fall for the meme and didn't get a CS degree, but I'm in mathematics and I'd kill myself if I ended up a programmer. I think I'd rather be a tutor to rich kids.

>>146
>I didn't fall for the meme and didn't get a CS degree, but I'm in mathematics and I'd kill myself if I ended up a programmer. I think I'd rather be a tutor to rich kids.
Ain't a math degree even less employable. I only know one chick who got a math degree and she works for Apple as a programmer lol.

>>143
To be honest my college experience was mostly my family going directly to the administration and saying I’d take accounting (later marketing when I flunked out of that) and kind of strongarming me through a mix of social and financial pressure to go along with it. I was an idiot kid who went into college right out of highschool and didn’t really stand up for myself.

>>144
I just might. At this point I’m so fucking exhausted with this horseshit I’ll do just about anything to escape it.

>>148
>To be honest my college experience was mostly my family going directly to the administration and saying I’d take accounting (later marketing when I flunked out of that) and kind of strongarming me through a mix of social and financial pressure to go along with it. I was an idiot kid who went into college right out of highschool and didn’t really stand up for myself.
Yeah that's understandable. My cousin I was about to tell you about went to UTAustin and she works in marketing now for HEB which is like the biggest Texas grocery chain and she did it by getting an internship while in college. I remember I saw this guy who does graphics programming talk about how he was all stressed about making sure he got an internship before he graduated because he decided it was over for him if he didn't get one because no job will hire you if you haven't interned already and no internship will take you if you aren't still in school. But on a side note, her older sister, her dad kind of strongarmed her into doing pharmacy because her HS had some kind of program where you could start while still in school and now she's sick and tired of pharmacy and doesn't think it's a good career path because the only ideal is to become a pharmacist for a hospital and now she's finding that it's almost impossible to get past the CVS Walgreens level.

>>146
<I didn't fall for the meme and didn't get a CS degree, but I'm in mathematics and I'd kill myself if I ended up a programmer. I think I'd rather be a tutor to rich kids.
uh… whats wrong with programming? sure its boring but so is every white collar job and at least it pays (or did, until every programmer started getting paid off in the last few years)

>>147
If you're really good at math you can pivot to finance/quant finance and make a ton of money

>>149
In my case it was a mixture of boasting about how good I was doing in a beginner’s accounting class at a family event (mostly to prove I wasn’t wasting any financial help) and then kind of lowkey assuming “autistic people are good with math like Rain Man or The Accountant”

What’s really killing me is I’ve got this dead end retail job, and I’m still talking with my mom and she’s all “But you’re so so so smart, don’t wind stuck in this like us.”

Fuck.

>>152
Eh bro, I'm in your shoes but I'm older than you and I don't even have a bachelors so chin up. There are other things besides math. I was done with math in 6th grade. I'm not sure if you heard of "math field day" but it's a math competition and I was on the team in like 4th and 5th grade then in 6th grade, my first grade in middle school, I was put as an alternate and I just sat at the comp doing nothing the whole day and that was the last time I really invested in math. I'm alright math but I like to learn it as I need it and that works perfectly fine for me. I always was too critical while learning: "What do I need this shit for?" and really I don't need any of that shit and I can just look up equations and plug in variables as I need it.

>What’s really killing me is I’ve got this dead end retail job, and I’m still talking with my mom and she’s all “But you’re so so so smart, don’t wind stuck in this like us.”

Be smart with money my friend. That's the main smart you need. Be smart with money and in business. A lot of people got rich who aren't super geniuses. Yes, to have a pure idea you can take to someone and sell for cash is nearly impossible. With business or money you can just invest in someone's idea, steal someone's idea and do it/promote it slightly differently or even the same and get rich. You have to have resources to invest yourself unless you have some rich benefactor or something. My dad's friend from the old country that lived in the same neighborhood as us, he got in the cab business, buying a cab, leasing it to a driver. My dad tried the same business at that level and only got as far as owning the cab and he had to drive it when he couldn't find a driver so he end up selling it, well his friend turned it into owning a cab garage, he bought a second home in the neighborhood while my dad sold our home and bought a house in another state for less than half the price. He also has some friends that got uber rich of real estate investments. Money, money, money. Go into business for yourself.

>>153
I can't tell you what the perfect business is otherwise that's what I'd be doing myself, but I know that is the move, especially for those without great employment prospects. Investing is also a good move, but I can't tell you what to invest in otherwise I'd be an investment guru. I don't know if there is any money to be made on these crypto scams. Just got to outrun the bear.

>>153
Well at least I'm not in debt. I do feel above those guys with useless bachelors and negative -100k net worth. I'm glad I'm not in debt.

Stress levels through the roof because I missed work yesterday due to too much alcohol and weed day before that. Didnt get yelled at like I expected so thats positive. Need to get my shit together.

>>69
>Entry level cybersecurity is flooded
entry level cybersecurity doesn't exist. Cybersecurity is not an entry level role its for people with years of experience in roles like sysadmin / network admin or similar.

>>114
good job but you will stress over people overdosing

>>43
it is better to have a bachelors in compsci even if you dont go into it - even a finance bro is better off having a compsci degree and learning finance on the side

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>graduate this May
>have bee struggling to find a job
>now have thousands of former federal workers in the same boat
I will not say "compete" because of solidarity and all that, but this is so frustrating.

There are manufacturing jobs out there in the US but they’re virtually all in small batch and prototypes of whatever so the workforce is less than 20 and it’s incredibly difficult to unionize. They managed to recreate the social isolation of cubicle office work but in a “real” industrial setting. Hiring is also incredibly tight because the workforce is mostly boomer or older and they’re hanging on to these jobs with all the force left in their bodies (even if they have to switch to part time). The only reason I managed to get in is because the factory owner is something like a family friend.

>>169
Go for federal work.
Serious they'll be needing applicants soon.

>>259
Why wouldn’t the current cuts stay permanent?

>>260
The cuts were deep enough that they're either going to have to bring some of their former employees on as consultants for exorbitant fees or bring in some fresh blood.

>>258
i assume most of these factories supply box springs or one obscure part for a defense contractor?

>>259
Trump signed order freezing all hiring which is still in effect so you're unlikely to get hire right now

>>259
could it finally be my chance to get a do-nothing government IT job

How the hell do you find a job? I have no idea what I should be looking for.

>>263
Metal wire, some of which definitely becomes springs in guns but there’s a lot of civilian use for it too

>>266
spam apply on the job sites?

>>264
OK OP hang in there long term career wise your future is looking 👌
After what's happened who wants to work in the public sector, the only benefit over the private sector it had was job security and a sense of purpose in public service.

Just spam apply, lie on your resume if you have to to get interviews, just use those interviews as Training runs.

As in, you don't want this thalomide job anyway but you want to do a bit of basic research about the position and the specific enterprise beforehand and bombard them with questions, pay conditions, what do you do? Why do you do it and if it's for this reason this way would work better.

>>127
Somewhere in Africa or Asia, some random dude hired themselves by building their own home outside of a city’s borders and digging their own property.

It’s never over as long as you still have your body

>>272
>Just spam apply
Literally the worst thing you can do right now. Everywhere you're automatically filtered for doing this. The best thing you can do if you're a PMC/Labor Aristocrat is reach out directly to hiring managers. I don't know about service and manufacturing sadly so can't give any advice there.

>>274
Why would that be the worst? IF they're gonna turn you down anyway, might as well maximize your chances

>>274
i think spam applying is more for new grads. Yeah you can 'reach out to hiring managers' if you have 5+ Years of experience and/or you personally know them

Barefoot Investor.

Yea or Nay?

>>274
>yo this person applied to too many jobs, filter his ass
What a stupid myth you're trying to create.

>>274
>>276
You can also go over their heads.
>>286
Just use different accounts for your resume spam and for serious business.

>>271
Sorry I mean how the hell do I find a job I want to do?

I work in automotive and a company-wide e-mail sent by the CEO just announced a total hiring freeze because of the trade war, lul.

>>76
its in your rational interest to look for higher income as long as you dont sell out your coworkers and, if you reach a higher up position, help them as much as you can. There are human bosses but never forget that in a systemic and global way, the class struggle is still real even if you got the better cut as a laborer.

>>77
wrong, to be a petit burgeoise you have to own means of production, a high salary worker does not own anything besides his technical skilled labor

>>92
Stop using anime. You're outing yourself as a right-winger.

>>379
>Anime is fascist

I remember when anime was considered "commie"

>>379
Please go outside

>>64
How did that go?
>>76
> IT support 1st level here for a company
> Am i being turned into a labor aristocrat?
Anon please, the labour aristrocracy is an abused classification. You're just a prole who was lucky enough to get a decent boss
>>77
>>80
Why do all morons think that proletarian, bourgeois and labour aristocrat categories are descriptors of one's side in the class war, instead of being the various factions of society than already exist?
You can have class traitors all over the place, from police to Engels

>>446
>Engels
???

>>451
Famous class traitor


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