Why isn’t Latin America considered part of the west

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Why isn’t Latin America considered part of the west Anonymous 02-08-26 13:14:10 No.19377

Pictured: Huntington’s retarded “Clash of Civilizations” thesis, mapped

Serious question. By all cultural, economical and political metrics, Latin America is part of the western world and, dare I say, far more western than many European countries and all of East Asia. Let’s start with the basics.

Majority religion in the region is Christianity across all Latin American countries, with Protestant and Catholics being the two biggest denominations there.
All Latin American countries have an European language as the primary language and lingua Franca. Mostly Spanish, but Portuguese in Brazil’s case, and (tentatively FWIW) French in the cases of the French Guyana and Haiti, with said languages being the sole official or co-official language in their country.
All Latin American countries have been republics for much longer than many European states today
With the exception of Brazil which broke ties with the kingdom of Portugal by establishing its own monarchy, all former Spanish colonies waged revolutionary wars of independence modelled after the American and French bourgeois revolutions, and installed in place republican governments modelled after enlightenment principles
Latin American cultures are heavily based on European cultures. Sure, it’s specifically Iberian, but decades of European immigration has brought in influences from other parts of Europe like Italy and Northern Europe. Of course there are African and indigenous influences too, but ultimately LatAm cultures are heavily derivative of European ones, as indicated by both language and religion.
For much of its history, Latin American countries have rarely if ever been involved with Africa and Asia, instead having been more heavily involved in western affairs, of which Latin America’s ones are part of.
A substantial portion of Latin Americans are of predominantly European descent, and even the mixed race majority in LatAm has predominant or slight European ancestry, meaning that they aren’t completely divorced from Europe
In terms of domestic affairs, many are currently western liberal democracies (however flawed it might be) that follow along the politics of both the USA and European domestic politics. Indeed, most Latin American countries are structured after western countries and have been so for centuries.

Now, I should mention that being western and being peripheral aren’t mutually exclusive since countries like China aren’t western and yet aren’t deemed as peripheral either. So no, being a core country isn’t a strict requirement for”western status”.

All in all, I fail to see why shouldn’t Latin America (or the entirety of the western hemisphere bar Suriname and Guyana for that matter) be deemed as part of the western world and, but extension, have Latinos be deemed as westerners without resorting to double standards and selective bias.

Anonymous 02-08-26 19:22:43 No.19384

If you define the West as a cultural sphere I can see it but many just use "the west" as a shorthand for the political bloc around the USA and NATO along with some european and asian powers like Germany and Japan. If thats the case I'd reckon Central and South America are more of a free for all between Milei tier puppets, Maoist guerillas and everything in between.

Anonymous 06-08-26 02:57:02 No.19435

>>19377
When people think of "the west" they think mostly about the Anglosphere and North/Central European cultures, Latin America is VERY different from that, which is why they usually aren't associated with it, and it makes a lot of sense.

Christianity? yes, but the north is mainly Protestant, while Latin America is, by comparison, extremely Catholic. The ideological differences between these two denominations have left big marks within each culture.

Language? Spanish and Portuguese are the main ones, but they were heavily warped by the native languages, in fact, evangelization was only possible by using the languages of the preexisting empires as a way to integrate natives into Christianity, this had the effect of adding a lot of new words to Latin American Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese, and allowed for said native languages to continue existing to this day.

Generally, Latin American culture is much more mixed and rich than what you make it out to be, with things like language and religion acting more as a "cultural glue" than a pure replacement of native culture.

Also politically? we've been shafted by the "western" capitalist machine for decades, we hate that shit with a passion, but the many US backed dictatorships have drained our collective desire to rebel and to engage with politics, which is why the place is such a political pendulum, honestly? it sucks.

So in the end, I think we are technically western, but not THAT type of retarded western everyone thinks about, more like a "B side" or a "South West" composed mainly of a mix of romance western traditions and native American cultures and ideologies.

fucking hell thinking about it there is technically an argument to be made that we are the "true west" since our cultural roots do point more directly to the roman empire and ancient Greece than what the current english, germanic and north european dominated "west" is

Anonymous 07-08-26 06:24:47 No.19448

>>19377
at most it's an OTHER west, or a pseudo-west. A land that had its own unique cultural formations, its own great civilizations, its own historic "fork" so to say, completely wiped out, in a time where modernity was being born, an age's birth this land's destruction contributed to, an age of expansion and destruction in all directions, it got filled with a strange simulacrum of the western invader. You can even see it in the architecture, building upon building upon building in inorganic, soulless constructions, save for some coastal colonial beauties and some good parts of mexico and perú.

Anonymous 07-08-26 06:43:28 No.19449

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>>19448
>at most it's an OTHER west, or a pseudo-west.
More like psuedo-Asia, where they actually come from.
>You can even see it in the architecture, building upon building upon building in inorganic, soulless constructions, save for some coastal colonial beauties and some good parts of mexico and perú.
I dig native architecture style. I would like to live in their salvia world.

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