HILO LATINOAMERICANO
>all those foreign words
When your in MY country you speak AMERICAN
>>38>>38>When your in MY country you speak AMERICANWhen
your in my
Do you guys know of any free resource for learning haitian creole? do haitians speak good french? I wanna learn portuguese and haitian creole I feel like us south americans should communicate much more than we do.
>>41I guess in Duolingo or in other internet aplication of microtransactions, or books in online libraries. I only found in english some basic ones + dictionaries (and the stuff they give to missionaries)
>>41Run a search for "Haitian Creole" on libgen.li and you will find a few interesting options.
>>43beautiful, i'm convinced, and in love.
Amigos ecuatorianos, que se siente vivir oficialmente en un estado canalla fuera del derecho internacional?
No es un happening si no voy a trabajar mañana. Ah, pero mañana es sábado, leftypol no pensó en esta excepción esencial.
>>49Most people get stupidly touchy about their own culture, nothing new here.
Instead of entertaining some retarded shit about spanish or whatever, there's a fucking habbening, you fucks. Ecuador has violated the vienna convention and broke into the mexican embassy to arrest the former VP of Ecuador, which is really funny if you're an accelerationist, but it's a big uh-oh moment if you were wondering if Israel's blatant disregard for international law would lead to any consequences beyond the middle east. The zionist entity has lifted the veil and a brand new world, where the paper thin semblance of international order has been shredded like confetti, This is probably the biggest regression yet. Definitely interesting times ahead, so exited to live in a pre-WW2 world, irt to international law.
>>50>>52>>53see all these anons are getting pissy just for having a question. i am not even attacking it
>>51they just seem to carry extra shame about the younger people "losing their ways" and seem to conveniently forget their own very recent past.
>>49because the working class is mostly conservative "by default". patriotic, supportive of traditional family values, distrustful of foreigners, etc.
>>49me confunda cómo en EEUU los gringos insisten que hablar un idioma europeo hace alguien un POC
>>55>"by default"what does this even mean?
>>55>patriotichalf right. alot of the same hispanics seem to view their original country as inferior and are kind of shitty about it for some reason
>supportive of traditional family valuessorry anon that really seems like bullshit since machismo pretty huge and alot not a majority but alot really like to cheat on their spouse regularly.
>distrustful of foreignersmostly applies to americans and their neighbors, which is like 90% of the world. doesnt apply of course if they have money
>>56translated this anon:
>I was confused by how in the U.S. gringos insist that speaking a European language makes someone a POCexactly my feelings btw
>>57basically the peasants or poors which is the "default" if you are born there
>>54>pissy just for having a questionit's a retarded and mostly irrelevant question, i cannot read your girlfriend's mind, nor i care enough to attempt to decipher whatever brand of idpol you and your gf are on. i give up on leftypol discussing anything of worth, do as you will.
>>57its part of a "common sense" inculcated by the dominant class structures
>>58you sound derogatory in you assessments and like someone who doesnt interact with people irl, driven only by prejudices
>>60>>60>you sound derogatory in you assessments and like someone who doesnt interact with people irl, driven only by prejudicesactually live outside of leftypol and any average honest mexican immigrant with an ounce of perspective will tell you the same. touch grass
>>59>it's a retarded and mostly irrelevant questionnot really just dont get their colonizer fetish and they think they are all conquistador.
>>59>i cannot read your girlfriend's mindme neither but its too annoying
>>49Why do people care about the culture and language they are brought up in?
Are you stupid? people care for their ethnic history and to pass down that identity, this is only human, are you inhuman?
Sure there are critiques to be made against any culture or language, but that does not warrant you getting pissy about it, ofcourse spanish speaking kids should speak spanish.
Im not Latin American, but I sure would want my kids if I ever had any to have some of my culture and my language not just english which is the lingua franca of the world including dominant media meaning culture so people will pick it up anyway.
to not want the erasure of ethnic identity is not a negative.
The xenophobia against gringos gentrifying Mexico city, and other places in Mexico is funny NGL, but it's also highly problematic and de-classed.
Rich (admittedly white) Mexicans moving to Condesa, Roma Norte etc are just as much part of the problem. Gentrification is an inevitable part of cities unless something is done about it. Rich people having more acquisition power is one of the defining features of capitalism. You're not going to fix gentrification by telling gringos to speak Spanish or go back to their country.
I hate to defend gringos, but the xenophobia is so revealing of the deeply liberal ideology of contemporary Mexican society. Worse is that it's mostly middle class morons complaining about it visibly. They're angry they can't be the only gentrifiers lmao.
As for the musicians in Mazatlan protesting against petit and booj property owners, yeah, my complete support. Fuck them lmao. Banda on the beach is the bread and butter of Mazatlan culture. If the booj mofos and the tourists don't want to visit a place where it's an essential part of social life, then just go to a more remote resort.
>>62>ofcourse spanish speaking kids should speak spanish.nah worshiping ded conquis isnt the way
>>62>Im not Latin American, but I sure would want my kids if I ever had any to have some of my culture and my language not just english which is the lingua franca of the world including dominant media meaning culture so people will pick it up anyway.dont have kids, you are spooked
>>62>to not want the erasure of ethnic identity is not a negative.more spooks
>>62>Are you stupid? i am normal and curious, that puts me ahead of u nerd.
>people care for their ethnic history and to pass down that identity, this is only human, are you inhuman?<ethnicthe mayo has tipped
>to not want the erasure of ethnic identity is not a negative.sometimes it is and well deserved, such shitty slavers cultures
>>62>Sure there are critiques to be made against any culture or language, but that does not warrant you getting pissy about it,im chill, shill. you should calm down
>>64> Their childen will be real burgers in the first generation born here.this is too true and they have the extra gravity to prove it
>>66Any arguments would be better. And no, I'm pure bred Mexican. The simple fact remains that the mechanism of gentrification isn't "Americans moving into the neighborhood", but "richer people displacing the community that is there", mediated by landlords, corrupt, indifferent, and undemocratic government, and capitalism.
pure bread he says
>>67>And no, I'm pure bred Mexican<purebred mestizoLol
Was just thinking how funny ever white American claims to be 1/16th Cherokee despite being 0/16th but every Mexican is at least 25% Indio but they don't want to claim it.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mexico-suspends-relations-with-ecuador-after-arrest-of-ex-vp/ar-BB1laGS3Mexico suspends relations with Ecuador after arrest of ex-VPEcuadorian police forced themselves into the Mexican embassy. AMLO breaks diplomatic relations.
AMLO being based as per usual.
>>69heh. A Mexican born and raised in mexico by ancestors that were Mexican up until my great grandparents, before which who the fuck knows. Hijo de la raza cósmica.
>>70White rich mexicans are like this lol. A white petit booj guy I know told me once "I'm barely Mexican"… bruh.
The vast majority of Mexicans don't dispute their mestizaje. It's mostly the whiter and richer ones.
>>72I always think it is funny too all the mystique about North of the border indies. I see Indians everyday, they're called Mexicans kek. The average day laborer is probably more Indian than the average American with an Indian card lol.
Speaking of also. I read that a lot of north of the border tribes fled south of the border to escape the Anglo genocide.
>>73they are the biggest whiners i have seen.
>>73yanks are so incestous
>>74>>74>yanks are so incestouscomo?
>>73Americans reifiy everything. It's impossible to escape the logic of the reification of identities. You can't even enjoy activities without them being reified and presented as an identity. Of course Americans aren't the only ones doing this shit.
As for Mexicans being Indian, indigeneity comes with the cultural component. Mexicans are largely mestizo, and rightfully don't claim indigeneity. Our customs are a mixture but largely departed from the people that do still live in indigenous terms. Most of us don't speak an indigenous language, or know much about indigenous Mexicans.
That would be like white people claiming they're Cherokee or whatever. It's not genuine. Even if you have some "blood" you've lost all ties to the culture.
>>76It's crazy to me how Mexicans did away with any concepts of race it seems. You'll be like majority Indio but you say just because your culture was erased, you are no longer indigenous.
Well going back to the USA people will be like a quarter Indian here and call themselves Indian.
>>80>Well going back to the USA people will be like a quarter Indian here and call themselves Indian.indians are from india, the meme never dies
>>79ffs
>>80>It's crazy to me how Mexicans did away with any concepts of race it seems.I wouldn't go so far. Racism is important in Mexico, but it's not as black and white as it is in the US. One's class is very important and almost determined one's perceived "racial" background. A brown person might self-percieve as being more European than a poor white person, for example. But racism is very prevalent and normalized. That said, there is an added component on top of that, which is that indigeneity is more of a lifestyle and culture, although race is a big part of it too.
>>80>It's crazy to me how Mexicans did away with any concepts of race it seems.they hate blacks for some reason
>>83Lies. Mexicans usually find them weird and interesting. Hate isn't really true.
Although there is a growing hate towards all economic refugees, including Haitians, but also other latinamericans of all colors.
>>80That's funny too, why can't Mexicans get native American money?
>>81>indians are from india, the meme never diesEschuse me, are you referring to Bharatis?
Bara tits
>>84>Lies. Mexicans usually find them weird and interesting. Hate isn't really true. thats your experience, my observations and social interactions say otherwise
Who gives a shit about a little racism
Just cut the balls
Zizek's a hack fraud btw
>>87OK well you're wrong lol.
Maybe they hate you because you're a gringo. Black Mexicans are teased and questioned, but they aren't hated. That's some load of bullshit.
>>90>Maybe they hate you because you're a gringo.not me they hate black people for some reason. im asian and know kung fu btw
>>90>OK well you're wrong lol. <baby wants a binkylol mexicant
>>61im a working class third worlder. i dont speak from my ass. treating proletariats as shit flinging backward apes because they distrust foreigners is what every rich liberal hipster does
>like to cheat on their spouse regularly. machismo is part of traditional family values
>mostly applies to american and their neighborsit happens in every country of the world. spaniards hate moroccans. somalians hate ethiopians and viceversa. argentines hate bolivians and paraguayans
>the peasants or poors which is the "default" if you are born herei mean the working class. the proletariat. no need to be condescending towards them
>>89oh youre just an edgelord. shouldve figured
>>91serious question, why the stick in your ass?
Why the fuck did Ecuadorian Police break into the Mexican embassy and assault diplomats?
>>92>argentines hate bolivians and paraguayansCorrection, Argentines hate everyone
>>95Mostly it seems like a gross miscalculation from Noboa, who's running a zero tolerance campaign against organized crime, probably attempted to one-up Bukele. Apparently, he's a huge retard prone to commiting gaffes, being the failson of some rich porky.
>>63> Worse is that it's mostly middle class morons complaining about it visibly. They're angry they can't be the only gentrifiers lmao. Well yeah they're the ones who stand to lose the most, being suddenly outpriced from neighborhoods that they were able to afford for decades. Admittedly gringos on condesa are, at best, a catalyst for a mechanism that was already well underway, they were going to be eventually outpriced. I doubt most apartments for rent in condesa are occupied, let alone occupied by gringos specifically. At the same time, I hold no sympathy for the gringos who are feeling the heat from anti-gringo sentiment. They've made themselves super visible by being utter pests. I see 0 complaints about migrants from other nationalitties (it's not very unusual to hear french, chinese or russian being spoken in condesa), so understand that gringos are particularly heinous.
>>98>it seems like a gross miscalculation from NoboHoly shit you're not kidding
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Nicaragua-Formally-Breaks-Diplomatic-Relations-With-Ecuador-20240406-0008.html>Several Latin American countries have condemned the assault on the Mexican Emabassy. Brazil, Uruguay, Honduras, Chile, Colombia, Venezuela, Cuba, Paraguay and the Organization of American States have energetically condemned the military intrusion in the embassy, as well as former Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa. >>99I doubt a lot more countries are going to break ties with Ecuador, but Mexico will be undoubtedly supported by every other nation at the International Court of Justice. We won't see the full extent of the damage until monday, when porkies decide if they should keep their capital on a lawless failed state, but it won't be pretty.
>>92>machismo is part of traditional family valuesso then polyamory is accepted then? sloppy seconds is still cringe
>>92>it happens in every country of the world. spaniards hate moroccans. somalians hate ethiopians and viceversa. argentines hate bolivians and paraguayansthanks for agreeing
>>92>i mean the working class. the proletariat. no need to be condescending towards themyes there is a need to condescending to them the more resemble whipped dogs than human being as time goes on. sorry mate
>>92>oh youre just an edgelord. shouldve figured<being honest = edgelordanon i……..
>>99>>100 (me)
Further consequences seem to be Noboa losing the majority in congress, as previous political allies in congress have decided to turn its back on Noboa. He was already holding a tenuous grasp on power, he has not delivered on his promises of controlling organized crime, an armed commando infamously took a whole ass TV station hostage just a few weeks ago. This desperate gambit is just going to accelerate his downfall. He was also one of the last cards being held by the US on latinamerica, Noboa is like Guaidog 2 in some regards, the US sourcing the biggest retards in the room because they're the only people that trust they won't be fucked over eventually.
>>101>so then polyamory is accepted then? sloppy seconds is still cringewhatever. leave those discussions to the petite-bourgeois, theres nothing revolutionary about who and how you fuck
>thanks for agreeingagreeing to what?
>yes there is a need to condescending to themaight man good luck, im sure acting like a californian democrat college student will get you very far
><being honestabout what?
>>103Stop replying to that animal.
>>104im surprised how he didnt got the banhammer despite reeking of cryptofascism
>>104>Stop replying to that animal.fascist
>>106reverse uno lol
>>103>whatever. leave those discussions to the petite-bourgeois, theres nothing revolutionary about who and how you fuckspoken like true liberal
>>98Very good points. And regarding gringos, everyone around the world dislikes them lol. They're very entitled, protagonist and it pisses everyone off. Of course not all of them are like this.
It's like that gringo that got a shit ton of slack for complaining about the organilleros, or whatever the guys with the little crankable organs are called.
>>109>Of course not all of them are like this. but enough of them are. lets not kid ourselves here.
Does Mexico have a viable socialist politician on the menu or is it still only social democrats against conservatives?
>>115I don't like this person, is she a rightoid?
>>115She is the rightoid Karen that leads the electoral coalition of the former corrupt socdem party and the rump conservative/christian right party. They are down 20% in the polls compared to left-wing MORENA.
I only like the MORENA person, the other two look like clowns
>>114Is the guy leading the PRI related to the cool Cardenas from the 40s?
>>119No clue, i remember that lazaro cardenas was chad in HOI4 though, verry good political tree, you can even go full "socialism" with him and invade the US, if i remember it correctly
>>119No, but the son of the cool Cardenas founded the more left-wing PRD as a splinter party and collaborated with AMLO before he himself left politics and with his son and all the other cool people defecting to MORENA. Now the PRD only exists as an opportunist rump party to support the legacy PRI-PAN formation.
Ok, Claudia got this. Total victory. This election is a wrap.
>>112Kekkkkk
>>115Mexican political spectacle has been pure comedy for a while now. Peak comedy was the previous presidential election with El Bronco advocating for the chopping off of hands of criminals. There was also Quadri allegedly getting to the debates in a hotboxed VW Beetle.
It seems this one is shaping up to be entertaining as well.
>>116She's the opposition candidate. Basically an unholy alliance of all the big parties, left and right, except MORENA. Still losing lol.
>>120Lazaro Cardenas was the last good president of Mexico. Then everything went to shit.
Post highlights plz, any language.
Tal parece que el programa de evasion de sanciones de Venezuela aparentemente dejo tantos forados que cayó preso un ex VP.
https://www.semana.com/mundo/articulo/atencion-capturan-al-exvicepresidente-de-venezuela-tareck-el-aissami-acusado-de-corrupcion/202426/Una limpieza de la casa nunca viene mal, aun si fueron de tu confianza
>>114>Partido Revolucionario Institucionalcomo assim kkk
iba a preguntar algo sobre el paro general y las movilizaciones este mes pero está muy cogido este hilo y me da vergüenza ajena usarlo
a ver si se ponen las pilas con la moderación
>>56It's funny when it triggers Spanish rightwingers
>>56 When your in MY country you speak AMERICAN
Another day another banger
¿Para cuando cae Milei? jajaja
https://www.jornada.com.mx/2024/04/13/economia/018n3eco>>126Qué te gustaría ver en torno a moderación? Yo veo el hilo normal 😰
>>130La represión es fuertísima. Creo que sólo se hará colonia americana y ya :/
Para los gonzalistas y maoistas que ronden por aqui
For the gonzaloites, MLMPMs, Xijinpingists and maosits who are around here.
https://larepublica.pe/politica/2024/04/15/fuerzas-armadas-informa-la-muerte-de-un-militar-en-enfrentamientos-con-sendero-luminoso-1473030Soldado muere en enfrentamientos contra el MPCP.
A soldier died in skirmishes against the MCPC. Another one died in the transfer by falling. And according to peruvian national TV some booklets of literature where found, and SP camps where bombed with rockets.
>>137>es comunista porque esta en el partido que se autodefine como comunistabuen analisis
>>138what? oh i just thought she looked cute, where's your hot speaker of the house, huh?
>>139 (me)
no tengo ni idea de porqué respondí en inglés
>>146looks like the average anon at a gay ass wedding lol.
>>127Illuminati confirmed
llo mas chistoso de vivir en mexico es ver a esos weyes morenos con tatuajes de la ss
chido tu cotorreo compa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn51ffrIMRMcharla algo general sobre la situacion actual en latinoamerica por si a alguien le interesa
>>114they are all right wing neolibs irl
¿Los comunistas de sus países también son inútiles?
Acá en memexico tenemos al zapatismo pero ha pasado de ser una insurrección armada e imponente con un fuerte enfoque marxista en la emancipación femenina e indígena a ser un grupúsculo de indígenas pacifistas larpeando de militares y estudiantes suburbanos de la capital que no les gusta el marxismo porque no es muh heckin decolonial con conocimiento ancestral maya (idealismo)
>>158>con un fuerte enfoque marxistael ezln nunca fue marxista
>estudiantes suburbanos de la capital que no les gusta el marxismola mayoria de partidos y organizaciones marxistas estan conformados por estudiantes urbanos la unica excepción son algunas orgs de masas de campesinos/gpos indigenas
Why doesn’t anyone call out on Brazil’s human rights violations? You can hear all day about China’s supposed human rights violations yet everyone ignores Brazil.
>>161every faggot bourgeois liberal state ignores the human right violations that dont affect their own interests
>>163No es acaso CR en la practica la cuspide de la socialdemocracia latinoamericana (con abolicion de las FFAA incluidas), me imagino que el cuasicolaboracionismo entre clases esta bien arraigado alla.
Aca en Peru, tuvimos a Castillo 🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️
Y como no me canso de decir, tener un gobierno en minoria es jodido y practicamente no tener posibilidad de avanzar al respecto.
>>152Curseado… En cdmx? Una vez conocí a un nazi moreno en Saltillo jajajaja
it's a retarded and mostly irrelevant question, i cannot read your girlfriend's mind, nor i care enough to attempt to decipher whatever brand of idpol you and your gf are on. i give up on leftypol discussing anything of worth, do as you will.
>>164No lo es. CR vive en la ignorancia política. La razón por la que somos uno de los países más estables en latinoamerica es exactamente porque no tuvimos un movimiento socialista fuerte.
>>165Para el 2050 ya nos mató a todos el calentamiento global. La revolución debe pasar en los próximos años.
¿Cual creen que sea el interes de los judios con Mexico? Nunca imagine ver una presidente judia en Mexico, ¿Sera por los recursos y ya? No creo que sea una coincidencia solamente
>>169te interesaste en leerlo por lo menos?
argentina 2050 es el equivalente de la rusia sovietica lanzando gente al espacio. no queremos esperar para construirlo, pero cambiar las relaciones sociales por completo y desarrollar fuerzas productivas que sostengan un estado de bienestar socialista pleno toma mucho tiempo
>>170el sueño irrealizable de la burguesia liberal argentina. esas cosas no suceden y nunca sucedieron por una razon, lo unico que espera la burguesia nacional es un salvataje interior (subsidios estatales) o exterior (la famosa "lluvia de inversiones") porque es tecnicamente incapaz de ser competitiva productivamente por si misma
>>173>“Quiero concluir estas palabras invitando a todos aquí presentes, que son los héroes de la historia del progreso de la humanidad, a que si creen, como yo, en la superioridad del capitalismo, que si creen como yo, que Occidente se encamina a un lento pero seguro retroceso, que si creen como yo que el mérito, la ambición, la libertad, la innovación y el optimismo son valores esenciales de la especie humana que deben ser premiados, quiero invitarlos a que apuesten por la Argentina”, arengó el Presidente. El liberal menos moralista.
>>156we're the second most cucked fucks in all of latam as of right now
>>171Suicídate.
>>175Subcomandante Marcos era Maoísta.
>>175El EZLN y los zapatistas no son los universitarios presumiendo de ser "decoloniales". Siempre han sido anti-capitalistas y nunca han asumido que "todo se debe a una herencia colonial únicamente".
entro una vez al mes al coso este y siempre está peor que la vez anterior
>>180El sub Marcos solo era un vocero, no obstante. Él siempre afirmó que la líder del movimiento era la comandanta Ramona.
>>181Entonces necesitan un método de análisis que les permita identificar las determinaciones históricas que han hecho al país, y concretamente a las comunidades indígenas, miserables. Un movimiento político revolucionario implica atacar el orden burgués y las causas de la miseria, apegándose a la realidad material y no a sentimentalismo sinsentido en forma de activismo pacifista de corte liberal gringo (la antítesis de ser "decolonial")
La realidad es que el zapatismo está estancado y no sabe qué hacer, y los partidos comunistas que quedan en México están llenos de vejestorios rancios que tienen la cabeza metida en el ano.
>>155funnily enough for the mexican far-right they are all left-wing socialist parties
>>185They pretend they are different, but deep down they know they are the same bourgeoise criminal bootlickers using different colors. The PRI started as succdem (a split of the Laborist Party founded after the 1910 bourgeoise revolution), but then turned into neoliberal drones. The PAN started as an openly reactionary Francoist anti-semitic party, but then became an ally of the PRI succdems and turned into a neoliberal party too, and the rest are just cope parties who claim they want to restore the old social democratic regime that existed before the neoliberal reforms of the Reagan era, which basically destroyed Mexico and turned it into an industrylet, drug-trading capitalist shithole.
>>180>Subcomandante Marcos era Maoísta.pero los indigenas lo pendejearon hasta que dejo de hablar de "expropiar plusvalor del proletariado mexicano" o "las determinaciones históricas"
aun asi el verdadero problema con los zapatistas es que no les interesa la revolución ellos quieren construir lo suyo y apoyar a quien puedan pero nunca han buscado construir y dirigir ningun movimiento que busque realmente derrocar el estado burgués (que ademas es colonial) osea para ellos esta bien estar abajo y a la izquierda osea en la marginalidad politica antes que tomar el poder y tener que hacer cosas "malas"
pic relatada es su antitesis basicamente
>>187xDDDD le hicieron un Hugo Blanco 2.0
>>187Y eso es justo lo que los hace inútiles como movimiento emancipatorio, y por ello me parece absurdo que en el ámbito académico se les siga considerando revolucionarios o que haya "comunistas" que los apoyan, aunque desde el vamos he mencionado que su pensamiento está sumergido en el más absoluto idealismo. Eso, como punto de partida, ya es un error, aunque aún tuvieran la intención de desmantelar al Estado nación mexicano actual sometido al orden capitalista internacional. No basta ser anticapitalista, para variar. Hay que entender la historia desde el diamat para comprender las contradicciones internas siempre existentes, y no entender al capitalismo de manera infantil como un ente meramente malo por esencia (pero más bien como una antigua síntesis que llegará a su fin debido a sus propias contradicciones).
Luego mencionas al EPR. Actualmente me cuestiono si realmente todo lo que basta para desmantelar el Capital como fenómeno internacional son guerrillas aisladas en la periferia o tercer mundo. No podemos ignorar que el núcleo imperial gringo es una fuerza mucho más peligrosa que cualquier grupo armado aleatorio. Por cada revolución exitosa hay mil embargos a la vuelta de la esquina y guerra económica y bélica sin fin que conduce a un Estado marxista que toma muy malas decisiones. Quizá además de la lucha de clases armada haya que desmantelar consistentemente la ontología capitalista (Fisher) y las estructuras fundamentales incrustadas en las sociedades occidentalizadas de las que el capitalismo se nutre, como la familia burguesa o el patriarcado (Engels y Federici)
>>182nomas no venga si nadie lo llama compadre
>>189the current state of venezuela is chavez's fault
>>193What would you have done differently if you were in his position?
>>194>if you were in his position?chavez was not a socialist and his plan was not to establish socialism. he was a bonapartist
can you read spanish?
https://razonyrevolucion.org/el-chavismo-nicolas-grimaldi/ Recién me entero que el PCP-Patria Roja (para los amigos Patria Roja) había sufrido una fractura, expulsaron a Rolando Breña, un miembro fundador
https://centenariodelsocialismoperuano.blogspot.com/2024/04/la-ruptura-de-patria-roja.html?m=1Artículo de otro partido opositor donde saca los trapos sucios
https://patriaroja.pe/articulo/brena-pantoja-enemigo-de-patria-roja/Artículo del Partido
>>197Will the people be brave enough to organize and behead their US sanctioned leader
¿Alguien conoce una historia del estado nuevo leon durante el Porfiriato hasta las sesentas? Leyo parte de un libro en ingles que
dio una historia de los caudillos y negocios que Cardenas luchó, pero quiero una historia mas entero.
>>197>el unico momento en que el proletariado hace paros generales es para detener al fantasma del "fascismo" y "devolver la democracia"se acabo
>>1852892
Bro come on, not saying all feminism is good but raging over women not just putting up with having no power and no protection from men is freak shit.
>>1852892
You should kill yourself. Antifeminist reactionaries get the bullet. Your "traditional" lifestyle must die.
>>199Historia de la vida real o historia no real.
Cormac Mcarthy, autor gringo, tiene un libro donde los personajes pasan por el norte de México. También está el crimen en la casa arramberri.
Sobre Nuevo León, creo que hay un libro que se llama Grupo Monterrey, sobre un grupo de burgueses llamado así.
I could investigate better books but perhaps you could be a bit more precise in what you're looking for.
>>1852892
Fuera de broma, suicidate lo más rápido que puedas.
>>1852892
>>1852892
>they have their hair cut short like men's and don't dress feminine.
This is my preference, for comrades and loverzz. Really like the Spanish mullet kind of thing too. Fuck off with your pol baitpost.
>>1852964
People should stop breeding. At least not so much.
>>206I guess I want to focus on the status of miners and agricultural workers-whether tenants, people who own their own land and can sell a small surplus, people with a tiny subsistence plot and those closer to the "ideal" wage laborer within Nuevo León. Like I said, I would like a study that goes from the porfiriato to the 60s but even a smaller time span would be fine. I'll add Grupo Monterrey to my reading list though
>>1852964
Take your meds. The doctor prescribed you 200mg of potassium cyanide.
>>210That's very niche. Unfortunately I lost contact with the only person I know who could possibly know a good book on the subject.
However, I will try to find something online.
And per my curiosity, why are you interested in this topic specifically? Like why Nuevo Leon? It's never been a state with a huge mine industry or agricultural for that matter. Compared to other states like Coahuila, San Luis, etc.
The biggest extraction companies in Nuevo Leon are limestone extraction for cement, among other ceramics, of which CEMEX is the most important one and has a large international reach.
Anyways, here's some stuff
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342881681_Empresas_mineras_y_metalurgicas_en_Monterrey_Mexico_1890-1908_Parte_I_Las_minasWarning I received an ominous warning about this PDF despite being distributed by the state. It states that Nuevo Leon in the year 2020 contributed to 0.24% of Mexico's of mining production.
http://www.sgm.gob.mx/pdfs/NUEVOLEON.pdfThis one is actually interesting and seems to fit all but one of your search criteria, it's from the state of Hidalgo, which is more in central Mexico. It has a very interesting observation:
Apparently in academic literature, miners of the 18th century in Mexico were considered labor aristocracy by academic literature.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://ddd.uab.cat/pub/tesis/2019/hdl_10803_667922/egr1de1.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwix_9LBmImGAxV2_rsIHf47Ac0QFnoECDwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1Cz2Z_6zsfRcyCIpH416MZThis is from year 1766 to 1900.
This is from the north west, from 1850-1910, Baja California, Hermosillo, Sonora.
https://www.scielo.org.mx/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1870-392520040001000091867-1920
The origins of the industrialization of Monterrey, Nuevo Leon's Capital, from 1867 to the end of the revolution, 1920
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.fondoeditorialnl.gob.mx/pdfs/losorigenesdelaindustria.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwik2_LdmYmGAxUahf0HHWQgCDs4ChAWegQIDhAB&usg=AOvVaw3IPwyc-FKdHmHp0aLZusPpThis was published by the state.
Sorry for the terrible links, please consider opening them on a private tab with VPN to avoid ad trackers.
>>1852964
>>1852981
Keep crying gringo. I hope feminists radicalize so no woman gives birth to scum like you.
>>212for the mining part, basically just because my grandmother was from a mining town lol she claims that there was a decent amount of metal extracted there
>>1852987
>the American dilemma of "I matched with a girl, but she is so obese that I would be embarrassed to be seen in public with her"
The struggle is real. Because of work my only real recourse for dating atm is apps and they're full of fat women, and all the good looking ones are fake profiles made from scraped Instagram profiles or they're someone's onlyfans bot.
>>214Aww that's sweet.
Yes, there is some metallurgic extraction. It's just that there's a bunch more elsewhere, like neighboring Coahuila. There might have also been a shift in mining practices throughout the centuries.
Here's some stats on mining in the state. Apparently it made 1.23% of value produced nationwide in 2020.
https://www.asec.mx/industria-minera-en-nuevo-leon/ >>1852999
stop spamming retard
Reading history and everything that has happened in the continent. I abhor and am disgusted by anything Spanish. I hate the fact that my last name is Spanish, my family speaks Spanish and food and other cultural things derive from them. I’m hoping to change my last name into something indigenous and become more closer to the heritage I truly belong. I know a lot of people are going to say “u can’t disregard ur half of your heritage!1!1” uh yes I can that side doesn’t mean shit to me. I hope more mestizos take note and throw that part of them away as well. Those people are racist and I want nothing to do with them.
I am Mexican so I can asnwer this question for you. Economically, Mexico looks upon the United States, but fashion and culture, we look upon Europe. When I used to live in the US, people often thought I was a gay man because of the way I dress (I dress like European men, especially Southern Europeans) which is fashionable unlike the average American man. My mum also stuck like a sore thumb as she dresses chic, sophisticated, slender, and looks young for her age (her features are average woman from Guadalajara which is olive skin, big dark eyes, and dark hair)
As for the stereotypes of Mexicans looking mostly indigenous, it depends on the region though a large part of the population does look like that. Though I am not a white Mexican (I do have some relatives who are white Mexicans of the Mediterranean type), I am a light mestizo like most of my relatives are (I am not sure if you heard the term light mestizo). Light mestizos are the majority in Bajio region and Guadalajara or in the middle class areas of Mexico City.
And not all whites in Mexico are upper class. The relatives I have who are pure white are mostly middle class people, though one relative lives in Condesa, and my maternal grandfather is upper class.
I also have seen a few white Mexicans who are lower class, especially public taxi drivers for some reason or the ocassional taco vendor. I also have met a few dark mestizo or indigenous looking Mexicans who are middle class or upper class though they are minority.
>>201roberto vaquero fucking based
>>201Vaquero is a patsuck reactionary incel
>>220>I am Mexican so I can asnwer this question for you.¿A quien le respondes?
>Economically, Mexico looks upon the United States, but fashion and culture, we look upon Europe.Los gringos son dueños de más negocios en México que los europeos y por lo tanto pueden imponer su cultura con mayor fácilidad, claro que los valores sociales más antiguos tratan de imitar el modelo europeo pero se han estado remplazando con los gringos cada vez más.
>When I used to live in the US, people often thought I was a gay man because of the way I dressEsto ocurre en todas partes, es pura homofobia sin más y estás perdiendo tu tiempo al tratar de darle otra justificación.
No es gratuito que la gente más blanca sea mayoritariamente más rica, tiene que ver con la forma en la que se ha heredado el capital.
Argentine cuck status?
>>220More indigenous but rich white Mexicans are perceived as whiter than whiter lower-middle class or working class Mexicans.
>>223Cierto pero también estamos más cerca de EUA. En países pobres en Europa, hay más influencia de los países colonialistas, aunque la cultura americana en las últimas décadas es hegemónica.
>>1854197
based puncher of 3 year olds
>>220>Economically, Mexico looks upon the United States, but fashion and culture, we look upon Europeesquizo
I visited Colombia for a week and one thing that stood out to me is that there were no fat chicks there. None. All of them were slim, meaning that the American dilemma of "I matched with a girl, but she is so obese that I would be embarrassed to be seen in public with her" does not exist in Colombia.
That's Colombia, but what confuses me is that my impression of Mexicans is that they are fat (at least the Mexican women I see in the USA are fat), but I thought Latin America is more or less homogeneous and that Colombians would be similar to Mexicans, just like Americans are similar to Canadians. So what is the reality of Mexican women? Are they fat like American women, or are they slim like all Colombian women are?
>>230Your writing style is very obvious. When will you stop spamming
>>232se vienen bombardeos a chile y argentina?
>>232Se les viene su freedom a los pingüinos
The Mexicans and the Hispanics that are Americanized are complete trash and very violent. I would say the phenomena is very similar to African Americans and Blacks from Africa; Those two groups are completely different from each other, even though they are both Black in skin color. The Blacks coming from Africa tend to be calm, polite, and well cultured, while most African Americans embrace the thug hip-hop culture and crime. Why the difference? I'm not sure, but I'm willing to guess its due to the shitty environment of the U.S. that drives people crazy.
>>237>due to the shitty environment of the U.S. that drives people crazy.probably. its a profoundly antisocial culture
>>235Don't worry. Milei is gonna save Argentina by selling it to the US bourgoisie. That will spice up its economy and make people feel save in getting children
latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-mexico-china-20100607,0,7370017.story
Learning Chinese in Mexico: Children prepare for the future
As China swiftly expands its reach across Latin America, a pilot program in Aguascalientes aims to introduce students to the Mandarin language and make them more competitive in the job market.
By Tracy Wilkinson, Los Angeles Times
June 7, 2010
Reporting from Aguascalientes, Mexico
Wo jiao Alberto.
Wo jiao Maribel. Ni ji sui?
Alberto and Maribel, sixth-graders at the Pedro Garcia Rojas elementary school here in central Mexico, introduce themselves to each other in Mandarin Chinese.
Their class also recites numbers, clothing items and weather conditions in a language that, to them, is about as foreign as it gets.
Some, like Damaris De Luna Sanchez, 11, move their hands the way a conductor directs an orchestra, slicing through the air to help them reach the proper intonations, the staccato flats and singsong vowelish sounds.
Their enthusiastic teacher, Gerardo Saucedo, is not Chinese nor has he ever traveled to China, but he has long been fascinated by its language and use of stylized characters as an alphabet.
"Zai dong tian ni chuan shen me?" he asks his uniformed students, dancing down the aisle among girls in plaid skirts and knee socks, and boys in blue sweaters. "What do you wear in winter?"
The sight of youngsters speaking Chinese in the Mexican heartland is unusual, to say the least. Parents told that pupils as young as 9 would be taught Mandarin had been skeptical. Wouldn't French or Italian (Romance languages closer to Spanish) make more sense? some wondered.
Savvy Mexican politicians have other ideas. State authorities launched the pilot language program in Aguascalientes, a working-class city, in hopes of jumping on the Chinese bandwagon. As China swiftly expands its reach across Latin America, Mexico is experiencing a flurry of new Chinese investments in traditional targets like nickel mines and in newer areas like car-part factories and electronics.
For many years, Mexico had lagged behind other big Latin economies, like Brazil and Chile, which saw China displace the United States as their principal trading partner. China spent an estimated $100 billion in Latin America in 2008, but Mexico had only a small piece of it.
Attitudes of xenophobia dating to the early 20th century, when Chinese workers came to the country to build the railroads, continue to inform Mexico's restrictive immigration policies for Asians, said Sergio Martinez of the Mexican-Chinese Studies Institute at the National Autonomous University of Mexico. On top of that, Mexico's notorious bureaucracy and the reluctance of many Mexican companies to compete with cheap Chinese products have slowed the expansion of trade relations.
Mexico was the last of the major Latin countries to sign free-trade agreements with Beijing. Until now, the economic relationship between Mexico and China concentrated mostly on the sale of Chinese products in Mexican markets rather than serious investment.
"The absence of a bilateral economic, political, academic, cultural strategy allowed the relationship to become tense and rudderless," Enrique Dussel Peters, head of the institute, said by e-mail from Shanghai, where Latin American delegations are featured at the 2010 World Expo.
But, he added, "the potential and interest of both countries, especially in mining, agro-business, electronics, textiles and automobile production, is enormous."
The city fathers of Aguascalientes are among those who want to take advantage as a model for all of Mexico.
"It's like what happened with English," teacher Saucedo said. "Years ago we didn't study English, but eventually we realized we had to. Now it's Chinese."
Saucedo spoke outside the classroom as children scampered off to lunch. "Hola, lao shi," ("Hello, teacher") one boy called out as he ran by, then giggled, perhaps realizing he had mixed his languages.
Saucedo, 28, studied Chinese for four years in a university program. The first year, he recalled, the class started out with about a dozen students, but all except for him dropped out by the end of the term. "It is a very, very difficult language," he said.
Last year, the state government picked him and nine other teachers to take a six-month immersion course to prepare them to teach Mandarin.
Chinese was introduced this school year for fourth-, fifth- and sixth-graders, a total of 126 students, and will be continued every year.
Remarkably, this is not the endeavor of an elite academy, nor the work of a Chinese-government cultural institute. Pedro Garcia caters primarily to low-income families. Most students are the sons and daughters of factory workers or come from single-mom homes. Pedro Garcia is a public school, meaning there's no tuition; workbooks, with names like Mandarin Hip-Hop, are subsidized by the Mexican government.
"My parents say it's really good to learn more than one language because maybe then I will get a scholarship," said Damaris, the 11-year-old hand-waver. She is already practicing her new linguistic skills on a little girl, the daughter of a Mexican father and Chinese mother, in her church communion class.
Since 2001, students at Pedro Garcia have been immersed in English from first grade. In hopes of maintaining the English, the students are taught Mandarin in English. In other words, the translation goes from English to Chinese, not Spanish to Chinese.
They take five hours a week of Mandarin, four hours a week of English.
"It makes these students more competitive," Saucedo said. "Sooner or later, there will be more Chinese companies here, and that means more jobs. If the Chinese see we have Chinese speakers, it will be a big advantage for them, and for us."
>>180>Subcomandante Marcos era Maoísta.Xóchitl Gálvez era Maoísta
>>237the irish used to be seen in the same manner
>>242the irish are complete trash
>>243I thought they were lively when I lived there.
>>244the irish use White knight culture
>>165Honestamente, que piensan los argenanons de RyR/VS? Más allá de la editorial. A mi me parecen una agrupación un poco sectaria pero bastante sólida - en especial comparado con el resto de la izquierda
>>247yo soy militante
pq sectaria? hasta donde yo se hizo lo posible para armar mesas de debates con gente de toda la izquierda y hasta incluso apoyo al fit hasta el 2015
>>250>>250You could have a cute irish american gf right now but you prefer being an incel shitposter
>>252That has happened only once or twice else in history
>>253it happens fairly often tbh
>>254Cops siding with protesters? I'm not aware of many examples
>>255Anyone know whether Argentinian cops took any IDF training?
>>252I-Is a socialist revolution back on the menu, bros?
>>259Nunca pasa nada (zzz con los troskos, ese ajuste provincial esta intenso por lo que veo)
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Pd: El gobierno de Boluarte alista la apertura de diversos proyectos extractivos
minas encarpetados por ser controversiales
tener calaveras adentro. En Ayacucho el paro de 3 dias se detuvo por una mesa de dialogo del gobierno
https://www.infobae.com/peru/2024/05/23/suspenden-paro-en-ayacucho-dirigentes-y-gobierno-regional-llegan-a-acuerdos/Los trabajadores del Seguro Social (y sus 6 sindicatos interiores) lograron acuerdos de aumentos de sueldos tras un paro general en todo el país.
https://larepublica.pe/sociedad/2024/05/20/huelga-indefinida-por-essalud-personal-medico-iniciara-paro-nacional-este-martes-21-de-mayo-1960600 >>269Willy Wonka looks like ass these days
>>268And they like Milei's government. That's it.
>>37Milei es un mito
Ardan, chairas
Malvado municipio comunista globalista sijinpista contra los humildes hacendados agroexportadores
representados por un Vonhttps://larepublica.pe/politica/2024/05/23/denuncian-a-alcalde-iqueno-por-consentir-construccion-de-fabrica-de-ceramica-china-1560941Pequeñas cositas que uno encuentra por ahi
I superficially learned about the PRI's history in Mexico recently. Despite them being a party of reactionaries they did have a successful party model that leftists should learn from, I dont know why leftists are so allergic to the reality that they need to wield and more importantly USE power against your opponents.
So to any Argentina comrade. How is life currently going for you under bog standard capitalism?
Does anyone have a good synopsis of AMLO, his presidency and the rise of Morena? The only things I've really heard about him are the Tren Maya and decent foreign policy here and there, reminds me of what little I've read about Echeverría
>>279AMLO comes from a tradition of suckdems nostalgic for the old pre-neoliberal post-revolutionary PRI (originally named Mexican Laborist Party and PNR). Even though he claims to be a leftist in the liberal sense, most of his government's policies have been quite neoliberal for a suckdem. The Tren Maya project created a bunch of bullshit low-paying wageslave jobs and mostly benefits the international bourgeoisie and AMLO's best clients like Carlos Slim. The only 'good' things he tried to do is nationalizing lithium and restoring our railway network.
Also Echeverría was a reactionary CIA employee who murdered students and communists during the Operation Cóndor / Cold War.
>>282hay que dejar de robar con el verso del indigenismo
>>281Looks like everything is going pretty well!
>>286Why even have rallies if shit is like this. I would just stay inside.
>>286How can you even regain governmental legitimacy when it's gotten this bad? Every disenfranchised young man with a penchance for violence will see the weakness of the state and just join whatever gang defacto runs their area. I think about this a lot as a burger.
>>288Im afraid mexico has reached a point where rule by a dictator is a necessity.
>>290They've got the right idea
>>289>>288local governance has been captured by organized crime for at least a decade, a friend's parent was murdered when running for a local mayorship of a relatively big town in broad daylight back in 2006-ish. there's little talk of the matter but it certainly makes the stakes of a presidential election matter very little fi you care about improving your day to day life.
>>289retarded bukele fan
>>290Now do this with all piggies and we might go somewhere
>>292Organized crime is the "outside force" the state needs to hold it together. No state will ever eliminate it without establishing a similar institution to hold itself together. The professional-managerial class is starting to take over that role of yoking labor and capital together, however.
>>289>>292>>286Mexico at least needs to create a secret service equivalent to tackle these kind of assassinations if it's this much of an epidemic.
Organized crime, the origin of the cartels, the political assassinations, it's all US destabilization, all the way down. Any reading of the history of US operations globally and in LatAm over the last 100 years can give only this conclusion. The US will do everything to prevent Mexico becoming a peer state.
>>296Reminder that several of the founders of Los Zetas were trained at the School of the Americas.
>>294Mexican organized crime is a form of bourgeois reaction. Narcos operate like companies (except they kill you instead of firing you, and they force peasants to work for them too), they own labs, private enterprises and land. They do business with foreign and national companies. They manipulate politics, just like any other pig. My theory is that they originate from the old national bourgeoisie of landlords reacting against the American-backed neoliberal reforms imposed during the 90s by the PRI, which turned Mexico's economy into an open free trade economy, instead of a closed and heavily regulated one like it was during the mid 20th century. The neoliberal reforms were harmful for the old national bourgeoisie because now they had to compete against foreign enterprises for profits, so they chose to follow the path of illegality instead of competing, hiring army defectors and pigs (cops) to protect their illegal industry and profits. This is ofc extremely convenient for the USA because that way they can keep Mexico underdeveloped and easily organize coups using the narcos if they want.
As an example, los Zetas was founded by former Mexican soldiers the government hired to fight proletarian insurrection groups like the Zapatistas and other guerrillas (google Arturo Guzmán Decena). They were initially an armed wing of the Gulf Cartel, and trained by Israel. The Gulf Cartel was founded by some landlord pig (pic related, Juan Nepomuceno Guerra) who smuggled whisky into the US for profit.
>>298Like the anon said
>Los Zetas were trained at the School of the Americas.They and the other cartels are tools of US state, directly or indirectly. People on this site seem to have a problem comprehending that a hegemon of overwhelming power can take advantage whatever it's tools may do. If the US wanted los Zetas vaporized at any point in their history it would have happened.
>>301I thought he was going to eliminate the peso anyway? What happened?
I can't believe that I thought Benito Juarez was basically a jacobin for so long
>>300>comprehending that a hegemon of overwhelming power can take advantage whatever it's tools may doYes, but they are still constrained by conditions. If they can't get home to enjoy their wages earned in the ordeal, adventuring for Uncle Sam doesn't seem like such a credible way to accelerate one's accumulation of value and escape from certain kinds of subordination characteristic of market-states (or as teh East calls them, "civilization-states"). I believe this explains the West's particularly economic attacks on Xinjiang in terms of the full life-cycle of Western mercenaries.
>>280>Nationalising lithium away from China to put it into reserve for future use by gringosterrible policy
>>305So rejecting a neoliberal policy is a terrible idea because Chinese extractivism is le good and American extractivism is le bad? Interesting take.
>>306How much lithium has LitioMX produced? Why is the appointed head of LitioMX just some dumb nepobaby without a background in mining, and instead a failson doing a PhD in bullshit at Harvard?
I would rather the lithium be sent to China to help develop socialism instead of being sent to the United States to be resold to China while Ameriporkies get a nice profit margin.
>>241zochitl galves verdadera 5ta cabeza del comunismo
>>308If by "developing socialism" you mean manufacturing lots of cheap crap they're going to sell to the USA so chinaporkies get a nice profit margin, then yeah, long live Xi Jinping thought!
>>311the smaller the profit margins that can be taxed for the benefit of Israel, the better
>>307Los mineros de la sal de sus lágrimas van a conseguir una abundante plusvalía.
>>307why is that subhuman talking about us? we aren't white nor even have a big white population like argentina or brazil
>>308>develop socialismKeep telling that to yourself, dengoid
>>307Sheinbaum is Jewish but she ain't a Zionist.
Meanwhile the proud vvhite saviors of freedom and evropa:
>>318Tradlibs are extremely cringe
>>307Schizo nazis from Xitter are the lowest scum of Earth.
>>307>Her grandfather was involved with a communist partyIs she a comrade?
>>321She gave half of the city to airbnb as a mayor so no.
>>321Nah they're just trying to do the "judeo-bolshevik" red scare meme.
>>322>>323Would have been too good to be true.
>>325Gálvez has claimed victory btw, lmao. Thex are this shameless.
>>325Weird color-coding btw. Did they just copy last year? PES isn't part of the Morena coalition anymore which was an at least nominaly right-wing party.
>>327The colors are indicated the groups in the exit poll.
>>328Yes, now explain to me why the Morena-coalition has the color of the Center-right political grouping?
>Morena leading 30% in the presidential election
>currently having 70-80% of all MPs in parliament.
>Winning all but 3-4 states out of more than thirty.
Total and utted sweep.
>>325Memeinez haciendo de las suyas jajaja. Ya no espero su proclama, defiendan sus votos Mexihermanos
Chilangohermanes, genuinamente me preocupa que gane la facción de acción nacional en la ciudad. No quiero que nos privaticen el metro, con todas las deficiencias que tiene es demasiado importante y un legado cultural que debe ser propiedad del proletariado, o en el capitalismo por lo menos que se mantenga bajo control estatal y no de algún gringo. No apoyo a morena, pero la opción inmediata para proteger nuestro transporte e infraestructura es que se mantengan por ahora en el poder.
>>330hmm where have I seen this before
>>334Por ahora. Son demasiado pocas actas, y a saber si son de las zonas de clase trabajadora o de barrios pequeñoburgueses, que es donde vive la mayoría de vejestorios reaccionarios que piensan que fucking morena que vendió la ciudad a airbnb es comunista (ya quisiera yo, lol)
>>302How are you going to get these dollars? Monopoly pesos?
>>338Its happening… itll be the 90s all over again
>>339So another Chavista coup attempt
>>339>Its happening… itll be the 90s all over againThe burgers, having shown complete breakdown of control internationally puts the foot down at least in the attempt to hold dominance over 'its back yard'.
I suggest crossing the borders north and waging a war of terror against them from their own land
literally just leaving salad on their doorsteps and ringing the bell.
>>342On the one hand it's a random iasg tier twitter screenshot. On the other hand it's a right-libertarian doing child sexual abuse.
Yep. I belieev it.
>>338At this point, fuck it. Maduro is a dumbass. Maybe someone competent enought in the socialist side of Venezuela can get rif of his ass and stir the ship in a good direction.
No sé si es el espacio adecuado para comentarlo, ¿pero algún argie de acá conoce algo de Sartelli y Razón y Revolución? Me leí el libro con su propuesta y me pareció realmente el mejor y más practicable programa socialista que vi hasta ahora, lástima que son dos gatos locos como siempre pasa con la izquierda decente la puta madre
>>345yo milito en el espacio, que queres saber compa?
What's going on with Argentinians? I've been reading online reactions to Milei's policies for a while and more recently the riots, and it's nuts? While the economy is in the toilet, and the entire country is being impoverished, people are cheering on police violence, demanding the army shoots every protestor, and enthusiasticly supporting any repressive reform. Replete with hoping for a "soft" dictatorship and shit like that. Reading the response is making me feel like I am insane.
Sorry for being gringo.
>>347nevermind them, social media is filled with trolls
milei has consensus in society but people are not as retarded as the ones you see down in comment sections
>>348>cutting down inflation>with a recessionpeople in cemeteries have no fever. there must be a great doctor round those parts
>>346Le ves futuro a la movida? Me pareció leer que van a sacar más volúmenes de Argentina 2050, más detallados, ¿sabés si se está laburando en eso?
Sartelli no sé si es muy potable como candidato pero realmente se puso al hombro el programa de izquierda más factible que vi en este país. Creo que muchos de los puntos que toca compaginan muy bien con el "sentido común" (un plan económico concreto, desarrollo, racionalizar el Estado, la crítica al sistema educativo) y por lo tanto le veo realmente mucho potencial electoral, por lo menos mucho más que a los troskos. Los partidos de izquierda en todo el mundo tienen que volver a tener un programa ECONÓMICO como tuvieron en el pasado, si no tenemos propuestas económicas socialistas concretas y realizables no vamos a llegar a ningún lado, y para mí la planificación económica estatal es un punto muy clave porque es de una efectividad comprobada y es un aporte bien socialista, que nunca te lo va a poder tomar discursivamente una derecha liberal.
Si me hace un poco de ruido tbh la propuesta de estatizar el desempleo así de una jajajja creo que tendría que ver un par de datos de ingresos/gastos para convencerme de la factibilidad, pero por lo demás el diagnóstico que hacen de la coyuntura me parece acertadísimo.
>>351>Le ves futuro a la movida?y por algo estoy adentro. como todo espacio chico (todavia mas en este clima ideologico) crece lento pero seguro. ya con no ser irracional y sectario ni estar pegado al fracaso del kirchnerismo como muchos otros espacios de izquierda que hay en la argentina les da mucho margen de crecimiento
>¿sabés si se está laburando en eso?eso dice el viejo, habra que creerle
>la propuesta de estatizar el desempleopara eso tenes al evita y al polo obrero. esa gente es una riqueza que nadie explota o a lo sumo los usan para pavadas pagandoles migajas, si los pones a trabajar productivamente no solamente vas a ver un aumento relativo en el resto de los salarios sino que ademas la economia va a despuntar como pedo de buzo
>factibilidadeso es el problema del partido en conjunto, que es chico y a mi juicio estuvo demasiado tiempo apelando a la mejora del morenismo en lugar de construir algo aparte como vienen haciendo desde 2015
>>352Le tengo confianza. Le falta por ahora alcance y visibilidad pero cuando empiece a tenerla, yo estoy seguro de que la propuesta del partido le va a dar votos aun por fuera del electorado tradicional de izquierda. Y va en buen camino con todo lo que es la presencia en redes y eso.
Y a los no argentinos, les recomiendo que lean "Argentina 2050" y militen para que los partidos de izquierda de sus países adopten una perspectiva que vaya en esa línea. Argentina tiene una situación particular pero el atraso económico es común a todo Latam y el socialismo tiene que poder dar una discusión ahí; si no, le terminamos regalando a la derecha el asunto que al pueblo más le importa mientras nos enroscamos hablando de temas culturales y el medioambiente. Hay fuerzas "de izquierda" ganando elecciones en el mundo, por más socdem reformistas que terminen siendo ese fenómeno tiene que enseñarnos que existe un grupo de gente que podemos traer para nuestro lado; es crucial para eso poder tener una propuesta de transformación estructural concreta, no utópica y que vaya más allá del distribucionismo socialdemócrata.
>>353joya, entonces te sugiero a que te sumes a darnos una mano, porque sobran tareas y faltan compañeros
de nuevo, el partido no es sectario y pretende ser un frente de corrientes de pensamiento distintas. el programa esta abierto a debate, mejoras y cambios
>Will Bakunin accuse the Americans of a "war of conquest", which, although it deals with a severe blow to his theory based on "justice and humanity", was nevertheless waged wholly and solely in the interest of civilization? Or is it perhaps unfortunate that splendid California has been taken away from the lazy Mexicans, who could not do anything with it? That the energetic Yankees by rapid exploitation of the California gold mines will increase the means of circulation, in a few years will concentrate a dense population and extensive trade at the most suitable places on the coast of the Pacific Ocean, create large cities, open up communications by steamship, construct a railway from New York to San Francisco, for the first time really open the Pacific Ocean to civilization, and for the third time in history give the world trade a new direction? The "independence" of a few Spanish Californians and Texans may suffer because of it, in someplaces "justice" and other moral principles may be violated; but what does that matter to such facts of world-historic significance?
>>355Well this is a misunderstanding. LATAM workers are unproductive not because they're not sufficiently integrated into capitalism as in the case during the incorporation of California, but the opposite; they are integrated to capitalism as low value added source of raw materials, similar to classical colonialism
>>357ackuchlly, unemployment in argentina specifically and latam generally orbits 30%
its just covered by different forms of government measurement, welfare and outsourcing, regardless of administration
it ties back on how latam economies are dependent on raw material single exports (depending on the country; copper, gas, soybeans, petroleum, etc.) and have non-competitive industrial complexes compared to recently industrialized nations like south east asia
whenever these non-competitive industries increase their internal productivity but cant compete externally, all they do is push people out of employment
this explains both the riots that surged previous to the pink wave and the current right wing populism; these people are angry and dont want to be pushed out of history, yet no government solves their critical issues
>>357>Unemployment at 7.7%What's the labor force participation rate? 10%?
>>362is he not literally converting to judaism ?
>>360>hispanismomongolico
>>362He's doing sissy autohypno but the one that makes you an ashkenazim instead
There's no such thing as latin america
>>362He probably one of these racist right wing freaks who feel like israel is this crusader state bent on murdering brown swana muslim people (and they are), and since they represent jews they start larping as the ones directly harming those they perceive as subhumans
Alberto Fujimori, ex-dictador del Perú, sentenciado por homicidio, esta confirmado como candidato para las próximas elecciones.
>>3714 años mayor que Biden, estuvo recientemente en cuidados intensivos por una fractura y supuestamente "cercano a morir".
Porque ponen Darude Sandstorm en esta copa 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
¿se le termina la mentira a scaloni?
>>374Que terrible sería si va a penales, ya han sido demasiados en esta copa.
>>376It means USA sucks at organizing anything that isn't a half-time show.
>>376it means nothing fundamentally has changed since 1800
https://www.youtube.com/live/2bsv9AxS_bYPresident Maduro of socialist Venezuala the widely acclaimed speaker, writer, journalist, and political analyst Caleb Maupin reporting endorsed Trump in light of recent events.
Apparently there was a drone assassination attempt on Maduro
More info on this please
>>376Nothing ever happens
>>379I ain't watching that shit uygha. Post a real source.
>>381I'm asking about the attempt on President Maduro of Venezuela's life with a drone?
>>382What is this google? Some assasin tried to drop a bomb on him and it missed. Not much more to it from my memory. I'm sure google can give you a more detailed picture.
Mr danger on da haus
>>385Look at the horrors after Venezuelan and Colombian gangs arrived to Chile. We have never had that many kidnappings, dismembered bodies, assassinations in the street, etc.
Even leftie parties are becoming tough-on-crime, which is good, otherwise far right would win easily on the crime/immigration issues.
>>386whats with those fucks though? like madone I thought gangs that violent were only a thing in mexico, whats the lore here
I dont want to idpol. But why do white latin americans idenitfy more with USA and EUrope than with their own country men? This is a pattern I have observed coming from Argentina, North Mexicans, Brazilians, White Colombians, Chilenos etc.
>>389>Europeanness disputedlmao
What's happening to Cuba? I hear they've lost something like 10% of their population to emigration over the last two years? If so, that's fucked, can they even reverse a collapse of that severity?
>>392Play revisionist games, "win" catastrophic consequences
https://scholarlycommons.law.case.edu/jil/vol52/iss1/28/>On February 24, 2019, Cuba adopted a new Constitution.1 The new Constitution formally recognizes private-property ownership. From the beginning of Socialism’s impact on Cuba, private-property ownership had been legally abolished until Fidel Castro stepped down from power in 2008.2 This new Constitution shows a departure from the socialist grasp on the economy. Cuba likely recognizes that private-property ownership is fundamental to economic growth in capitalist countries and now seeks to benefit from the growth that accompanies a system of private-property rights. Cibcom MLM is the only way forward
There's no such thing as latin america and "latinos" are literal squatters living on stolen land from natives
>>394Squatters from Spain and Portugal that fled to """new world""" for riches after they made their peninsula a poor shithole due to genociding their muslims and jews who were the productive members of society
This thread is getting dumber than usual.
>>390In what way, as migrants triying to make the place they live their new homeland or as part of an colonial mindset in people still living in their countries?
The answer is in my question I believe
>>394Baiteando al (los) hispanista(s) que lurkean por aqui no? Bastante soso tu anzuelo
>>398Porque negando la identidad de algo hace que la persona con dicha identidad se sienta afectada y escriba/responda algo con el higado mas que con el cerebro.
Todos sacan su perspectiva de lo que fue la llegada de Castillo al poder, ahora toca la de su exjefe partidario. ¿Tu te la comprarias /latam/?
>>399As if the """latinos""" aren't invading white men from spain and portugal themselves, literal descendants of the crusaders who tortured and murdered muslims and jews in iberia and north africa and then went to the new world to genocide indigenous peoples
>>401You forget that these people have indigenous DNA(argentines included), even the Brazilians, who like to pretend that they dont for some reason.
>>402A very small drop of rape blood doesn't make one indigenous, they're settler colonizers just like the anglos they love to shit on
>>403being a descendant of a rapist means you are equally descendant from someone who was raped, and at that point it just cancels out.
>>405Second Spanish Republic moment.
>>403Argies range up to 25% indio dna. That's not a drop at all.
shut the fuck up already idpol retards
>>390Whites will always put race above country.
>>364>mongolicoa los estados unidos le conviene la existencia de los nazi-onalismos latinoamericano que tienen la region dividida.
eso sin contar el fetiche anglosionista de balkanizacion:
>URSS<balcanizada>yugoslavia<balkanizada>Imperio otomano<balkanizado>Imperio español<balkanizadopaises que tras su balkanizacion los anglos se encargaron de fomentar ideiologia divisionistas retrasadas como los nazis en europa del este por medio de la operiacion gladio, el nazismo de su epoca AKA el bonapartismo en su version latinoamericana bolivarianista, los nazis yugoslavos, divir medio oriente en un monton de republiquetas bombardeables.
mientras que una Union de republicas hispanicas con españa como estado satelite en europa para tener a raya a la OTAN, seria inmune a la guerra economica gringa al disponer de todos los recursos necesario
<1NB4 PERO LOOS LATINOS SOMOS DIFERENTES>Rusia<musulmanes, cristianos, ortodoxos, asiaticos etc con diferentes culturas y hasta idioma conviviendo>China<Zhuang, Han, Uyghur , Yi, Bai, Hani y otras 50 etnias con idiomas distintos y religiones que van desde el Budismo hasta el Christianismo e Islamcabe notar que el Anglo esta obsesionado con la balcanizacion de estos paises como se ve en Pic related con la "Free leage of nations" en rusia y la pendejada de guerra mediatica china 24/7 gooneandose con la idea de la balkanizacion
>>410Go back to Spain, colonizer
Muerte a hispanistas
>>410mmm
-etnonacionalismo
-carencia de dialectica material
-identitarismo
mi diagnistico: retraso madurativo
>>413>>412>>411pero aun asi no pueden decir en que estoy mal, la estrategia anglo de mas de 300 años ha sido la balkanizacion, asi logran dividir a sus enemigos.
es asi como mantienen control de la region, si cuba hubiera sido parte de una gran nacion que conformase, digamos, venezuela, colombia, honduras, RD, nicaragua y el salvador el bloqueo gringo seria casi imposible y tendrian un mejor mercado interno, pero dada las divisiones entre latinos cualquier intentoo revolucionario esta destinado al fracaso total.
un caso real seria el caso de chile y peru por ejemplo, peru instala una reforma agraria nen 1969 y expulsa a todas las empresas gringas luego los chilenos en 1973, como base de operaciones del plan condor, preparan un golpe contra velasco luego de años de guerra economica, si peru, chile y bolivia hubieran sido parte de un solo pais o ya una mancomunidad, buena ssuerte con los cambios de regimen, guerra economica o sanciones
eso sin contar que la huevada de españa no tiene ni recursos asi que seria relegada a estado satelite
>>415Ya fue la Hispanoamerica unida viejo. De hecho, algo que encuentro que tienen razon los hispanistas es que la "Patria Grande", la Latinoamerica unida fue el Imperio español. Tal como ya se acabo la URSS, la union hispana fue desmembrada hace 200 años. No se puede recuperar lo que fue separado hace tanto tiempo. La edad de oro de Iberoamerica ya fue. Despues fue la de los anglosajones, y ahora es la de China. Eventualmente China caera en el futuro y otra civilizacion ocupara su lugar.
>>415el hispanismo no es mas que un sueño etnonacionalista de los sectores mas retrogrados de la retaguardia española que busca restaurar una gloria imperial pasada transformando en subsidiarios a los estados nacion de latam
no hay nada transgresor ni innovador en hablar de una revolucion internacionalista que mientras mas estados abarque, mejor. saltar de eso a llorar por la leyenda negra y a transformar a la "anglofilia" en una especie de fantasma judeobolchevique es un disparate que solo se le ocurre a gente sin ningun tipo de seriedad en sus analisis sociales
a ponerla ni en remojo
qué hilo de mierda
>>390This is not true, you just run into self-hating pretentious rich fucks whose daddy paid them English tutoring
There's a lot of envy towards Western Europe, but most people laugh at gringos
>>416una union entre peru, bolivia y ecuador sseria beneficioso para una futura revoolucion
>>417un panamericamismo es la unica via de asegurar una revolucion
<etnonacionalistael hispachismo es muy internacionalista, por algo a los hispanistas los jodian con que eran nazbols
>>419>THISeither that or you run into a right winger, genocide apologist or champagne socialist that want to live in sweden and have their asses fucked
TBH Anglo worshipping Indians are Hitlerites
why do hispanics hate the chinese?
The primary reason for why so much biological diversity exists within the human species is the tendency for people to migrate and live in isolated places for thousands to millions of years. With time, a combination of inbreeding, isolation, environmental pressure, and mutation naturally formed what most people consider to be distinct “races”. However, as fertility rates stagnate internationally combined with the increased migration of people and gene therapies against diseases, it seems like there is opportunities for the entire genetic makeup of the human species to get bottlenecked everywhere. Cultural homogenization happens for similar reasons, but the bigger factor in it is urbanization growing everywhere.
The only way I can imagine for humanity to become as genetically diverse as it used to be is if people venture into the stars and deal with enough radiation and isolation to form new groups of people.
>>423That seems for like a californian mexican-american thing. A lot of people like Asia in LATAM.
>>425no they hate chinese in mexico city as well, although not as strongly as they used to
>>426Historically as inmigrants they have seen by two prism. As reserve labour by the bourgeoisie (literally imported to replace slaves in plantations) or by been shopkeepers and petit bourg as the first hammer in scale of the bourgeoisie.
If one searches there are much more histories of integrations than of pogroms (or rebellions by the Chinese), speaking of the number of Asians descendants In latam. Latam has no Ugandan Exile tipe of moment with Asians apart of a few incidents.
>>429Fuck the class conflict was one but racism was the other prism.
Would anyone happen to know where I could watch I was, I am, I shall be, it's a documentary where some guys from the GDR managed to interview prisoners in Pinochet's Chile?
Evo Morales o Luis Arce?
>>392You need to remember that even after all of this years, Cuba still has an embargo and they can't really trade with the rest of the world as other nations. That and the fact that they are still in the list of supporters of terrorism by the gringos, while also still the US trying to do coups and what not.
The reforms they did in their constitution, although changing some things from worse, were done with the expectation that would help to minimize the damage from sanctions. After all, their biggest trade partner has been long gone.
>>416No es como si el concepto de una latinoamerica unida no pudisese funcionar en forma de confederacion, como la URSS.
Eso del hispanismo, aunque sea para hablar de una patrua grande socialista, resaltando lo SOCIALISTA, me parece una estupidez.
Si los rusos pudieron conformar la union sovietica, y mantener las tensiones etnicas no tan altas, no veo porque una patria grande no funcionaria.
>>432thanks, didn't think it would be on facebook of all places
Maduro election status?
>>439Nobody on this board cares apparently
>>440I care, election status?
>>441Nail biting if you care.
>>440precisamente porque me importa que ni lo menciono acá
>>440I was waiting for someone to make a thread. Too lazy to make one myself.
>>390La burguesia local, generalmente descendientes de los colonizadores (no son exclusivamente ellos ojo) tiende a identificarse con los valores de la hegemonia en gran parte porque asi es su consumo a diario: comen Mcdonalds, ven series gringas, se obsesionan con celebridades gringas o europeas, etc.
>>446>La burguesia local, generalmente descendientes de los colonizadores la burgesia local en latinoamerica ni siquiera es descendiente de los colonizadores, son descendientes de castizos pobres, criminales liberados o nietos de esclavas africanas violentadas que se blanquearon con los procesos de "mejoramiento racial" que impusieron los liberales en el siglo 19-20, alemanes, franceses o ingleses pobres que vinieron a comprar tierras al mayot y en el peor de los casos gringos atraidos por el petroleo, la enorme mayoria de españoles y colonizadores huyeron a españa o fueron ejecutados por los independentistas
>>448I thought every poll said that Maduros was cucked out of winning and the people hated him
>>449NTA, but it depends on the polling agency. The Western media promote pro-opposition polls so that even if Maduro wins it will seem like a fraud and they'll have excuse for another potential coup attempt.
>>390You need to read more about settler colonialism. Whiteness is a bourgeois made up identity based on a pathos of differentiation from the colonized poor, the wage slave, the homeless, the prostitute, and the unemployed, but it's not a pure form. It was initially used to differentiate "civilized" christians from "savage" muslims and "uncivilized" non-christians.
>>237insane racism is unsurprising in lationamérica
>>390There are enough browns who do the same thoughever
>>390>"La colaboración con la burguesía, y aun de muchos elementos feudales, en la lucha antiimperialista china, se explica por razones de raza, de civilización nacional que entre nosotros no existen. El chino noble o burgués se siente entrañablemente chino. Al desprecio del blanco por su cultura estratificada y decrépita, corresponde con el desprecio y el orgullo de su tradición milenaria. El anti-imperialismo en la China puede, por tanto, descansar en el sentimiento y en el factor nacionalista En Indo-América las circunstancias no son las mismas. La aristocracia y la burguesía criollas no se sienten solidarizadas con el pueblo por el lazo de una historia y de una cultura comunes. En el Perú, el aristócrata y el burgués blancos, desprecian lo popular, lo nacional. Se sienten, ante todo, blancos. El pequeño burgués mestizo imita este ejemplo. La burguesía limeña fraterniza con los capitalistas yanquis, y aún con sus simples empleados, en el Country Club, en el Tennis y en las calles. El yanqui desposa sin inconveniente de raza ni de religión a la señorita criolla, y ésta no siente escrúpulo de nacionalidad ni de cultura en preferir el matrimonio con un individuo de la raza invasora. Tampoco tiene este escrúpulo la muchacha de la clase media. La "huachafita" que puede atrapar un yanqui empleado de Grace o de la Foundation lo hace con la satisfacción de quien siente elevarse su condición social. El factor nacionalista, por estas razones objetivas que a ninguno de ustedes escapa seguramente, no es decisivo ni fundamental en la lucha anti-imperialista en nuestro medio. Sólo en tos países como la Argentina, donde existe una burguesía numerosa y rica, orgullosa del grado de riqueza y poder en su patria, y donde la personalidad nacional tiene por estas razones contornos más claros y netos que en estos países retardados, el anti-imperialismo puede (tal vez) penetrar fácilmente en los elementos burgueses: pero por razones de expansión y crecimiento capitalistas y no por razones de justicia social y doctrina socialista como es nuestro caso". t. Mariátegui
>>237Almost as if African-Americans carried a legacy of 400 years of slavery+segregation which very negatively impacted their communities while current African diaspora are mostly middle to upper class emigrees.
>>390>But why do white latin americans idenitfy more with USA and EUropenot exclusive to whites. "marrones" calling "marrones" subhuman it's part of their mantra.
LA is a highly colonized place, where the left is subdued to the usa whims.
yes, whites are more rancid in this regard, but it's the colonization process amplified by the us culture. I call it the "gusano" mindset. no matter if it's Cuban or not. Whoever who believes himself being a superior human being, above their nationals, because sides by the us puppet masters, it's a gusano.
>>439Social democracy reigns supreme
my cock is rock hard
Latinoamérica debe dejar su fetiche raro con los socialdemócratas y burgueses nacionalistas. Duele admitirlo, pero la ideología del voto todavía domina la colonizada mentalidad del latino promedio, incluso los que se adjudican ser marxistas. Mientras tanto, no hay ni un partido comunista con potencial de vanguardia en todo el continente, salvo el cubano. El resto tienen la cabeza dentro del ano.
>>464no hay ningun partido comunista ni siquiera el cubano, si realmente fueran competentes hablarian de producir industria pesada y teconologia en lugar de hablar de repartir los americoins a la poblacion y despues lavarse las manos cuando no pueden mantener su sistema de salud por un bloqueo gringo al no poder producir nada por no invertir en industria
>>464>no hay ni un partido comunista con potencial de vanguardia en todo el continente, salvo el cubano. El resto tienen la cabeza dentro del ano.Entonces cómo quieres que cientos de millones de personas "trasciendan la ideología del voto". ¿Vas a ir tú a dártelas de guerrillero en la selva, aunque esa táctica ya demostró que no funciona fuera de Cuba y menos en el siglo XXI?
>>464t. guerrillero de teclado
>>465Dije partido con potencial de vanguardia, no partido comunista. Por el contrario, partidos comunistas hay muchos, eso es, partidos que ven al comunismo como un activismo superficial o como ideología y no como un producto del control científico del metabolismo social. Lo que no hay son partidos que realmente se tomen en serio al marxismo como una ciencia y metdología de análisis, partidos ideológicos lo son todos.
>>466Tu post es producto de una lógica individualista y reduccionista afín a la ideología liberal de que "el cambio está en uno" (el mismo pensamiento que generó la ideología socialdemócrata del voto), y por supuesto no se corresponde con el objetivo real de hacer frente a la burguesía. Aunque por lo menos te tomaste la molestia de hacer una crítica de las revoluciones fallidas, eso es positivo, no obstante, no es suficiente. El proletariado latino actual ya es uno absolutamente dominado en su subjetividad por la ideología burguesa a través de la industria cultural. Para generar un mínimo de potencial revolucionario hace falta agitación y educación en masa, primordialmente. Segundo, un grupo más reducido de profesionales que transformen la violencia de las masas en propuestas y medidas concretas, pero creer que todo eso se generará por la voluntad de esa fantasía del individuo es idealismo del más puro e infantil.
>>467t. midwit
>>469que forma de escribir pelotudeces. hay que salir de casa hermano
>>470Triste es venir a un tablón marxista sin argumento alguno. Hay que leer más, hermano.
>>460Apparently this video is from 2017
>>460desde el 2002 no han cesado.
>>472it is, kek. they are trying to use old material to incite the people. Maduro should turn off all the social media connections through the ISP, tiktok, x, fb, etc.
I love that documentary about Venezuelans beating the shit out of the coup against Chavez and the bourg crying about it
>>479chavista de mierda
ustedes son y siempre han sido el ultimo clavo en el ataud del movimiento obrero latinoamericano
>chavista de mierda
oh que lindo el butthurt. ahora dirás que Cuba no es revolucionaria, que Fidel Castro era algo como un nazi, y que tu linda revolución en la cabeza es perfecta.
que "butthurt" ni butthurt, imbecil. el chavismo es una maquina de asesinar y oprimir obreros
si hay algo lejano a los socialismos reales son los gobiernos pro burgueses de mierda de la marea rosa
ningún pibe nace trosko
>el chavismo es una maquina de asesinar y oprimir obreros
Reminder that it was the pro us genocider pro-notreal imperial bourgeoise candidate of edmundo gonzalez and machado parisca who didn't sign the recognition of the results and the CNE election results can be 100% audited but they haven't called for an audit. straightforward unrecognition.
Recordatorio de que fueron el candidato de la burguesía imperial pro-notreal pro de los Estados Unidos de Edmundo González y Machado Parisca que no firmó el reconocimiento de los resultados y los resultados de las elecciones de CNE pueden ser 100% auditados, pero no han pedido una auditoría. simple negación y plantear resultados propios.
>>483>Maquina de asesinar obreros.Hahahahahahahahahahahahah ahhhhhhhhhh.
Si de verdad eres de alguna parte de latinoamerica no se como puedes decir tanta mierda de forma seria. Por lo menos usa la bandera fed, o anarcocapitalista, daria menos verguenza leer tus estupideces
>>486desaparecieron, mataron y torturaron dirigentes sindicales y militantes socialistas mientras empobrecieron brutalmente a la clase obrera venezolana, sorete inmundo
el regimen podrido chavista no tiene nada que envidiarle al plan sistematico de exterminio de la vanguardia obrera durante el plan condor
>desaparecieron, mataron y torturaron dirigentes sindicales y militantes socialistas
Ah, sí, como Álex Lanz, que luego confesaron fue la esposa y quisieron hacer creer a la gente que fue un plan del zionismo ligado a Maduro (Venezuela no tiene lazos con ese "país" del demonio)
Ah, yes, like Álex Lanz, who later confessed was the wife and wanted to make people believe that it was a plan of zionism linked to Maduro (Venezuela has no ties with that "country" of the devil)
Should I root for Maduro?
>>489>should I root for a reactionary bourgeois politician?Up to you, really.
>>156Well cops over there literally have to deal with lumpen proles more powerful than the government so..
>>37It's time to go back to Spain, settlers
>>491Don't lick their balls so hard, Latin American cops are as much criminal scum as narcos and gangs. They just protect different factions of the bourgeoisie.
>>492They're already doing so tbh. By 2040 Spain probably will be 40% Latin American or something. Right wingers generally sleep on this because most of them are Catholics
>>489People like you remind me of protestant christians looking for any hack to bless them with some magic. Nah bro no amount of "rooting" will help Maduro you loser. You sound like that retard guy praying to Trump in a car while the cops were trying to arrest him.
>>494Good, go back, you're all squatters on stolen indigenous lands
>>496>praying to trumplol when was this ?
>>492It's time to go back to England, slave owner.
VIVA VENEZUELA PUÑETA
>como 25 desaparecidos y 262 asesinados por el chavismo bonapartistaThe comuneros from El Maizal, from where many of those names come from, have always supported Maduro, and know who their enemies are:
https://www.laiguana.tv/articulos/20965-comuna-el-maizal-presidente-maduro-consulta-comunicado-ataque/https://www.laiguana.tv/articulos/1251862-impresionante-maduro-lanzo-brazos-campesinos-comuna-el-maizal-lara/https://ultimasnoticias.com.ve/noticias/lara/banco-comunal-el-maizal-promueve-nuevo-sistema-productivo-y-social/https://ultimasnoticias.com.ve/noticias/mas-vida/comuna-el-maizal-distribuye-alimentos-en-varios-estados-del-pais/>Los comuneros denunciaron que ese sector “empresarial” es el responsable de crímenes y secuestros perpetrados contra campesinos, “…Esta clase que hoy nos ataca es la misma que asesinó a más de 300 campesinos incluyendo al cacique Sabino Romero, para saquear el carbón en el Zulia, es la misma que mantiene desaparecido a Alcedo Mora y a los hermanos Vergel en Mérida…”, sentenciaron.Maduro even put a El maizal comunero as minister of the comunas recently, which represents the inconditional support Maduro has for the comunas:
https://www.laiguana.tv/articulos/1251818-foto-angel-prado-nuevo-ministro-comunas-designado-maduro/
>https://razonyrevolucion.orgthat site is one of the tentacles from the twitter pcv, which has representation outside Venezuela (not even Venezuelan).
I know who Maria del Rosario is. another irrelevant liberal who would side with anti-communists like enrique marquez to attack a socialist candidate.
Many many names, not one mention in that accusation not one mention of who and how Angel Prado from that same comuna, now is minister.
>>496Sorry anon, I don't know really much about latin america politic.
>>491narcos=goverment=police
also thats not the case in fucking chile
>>501Sos de venezuela anon? Qué podés decir del plan económico de Maduro? Trato de ponerle buena voluntad y entusiasmarme por ver un régimen que al menos se autodenomina socialista y supo mantenerse en el tiempo, pero el desempeño económico de Venezuela más bien me hace pensar que a las izquierdas latinoamericanas no les queda otra más que diferenciarse todo lo que puedan del chavismo.
>>502That's a floating point rounding error dumbass
5,150,092 is 51.19999713682801% of 10,058,774
>>506>>502>glowies can't even do basic mathlmaoooo
>>506Anon, that literally changes nothing. They just rounded the three numbers to the closest integer
>>508>>502
>round number up>invert math>result is a round numberwow…
>>509Surely you're not bad enough at statistics to expect 3 options in an election to match exactly one decimal on the percentage number.
>>506 just try to do the same thing with 5,150,092 and tell me what happens.
>>506>51.19999713682801%no shit, did you want them to report that 0.288, 0.108 and 0.604 people voted so it would actually be 51.2000000000000000000000000000000%, 44.2000000000000000000000000000000% and 4.6000000000000000000000000000000%?
>>505Sí.
El chavismo siempre ha tenido el plan de la patria
https://www.laiguana.tv/articulos/1208597-maduro-cne-plan-patria-2025-2031-apellidos/, que lo renuevan cada tanto, usualmente lo presentan cada campaña presidencial. Deja que consiga uno y lo subo luego. Pero en esencia siempre es reforzar los planes económicos obtenidos de las decenas de miles de reuniones organizacionales, en particular de comunas que son productivas y miembros de partido.
Ya tenemos 3 años de crecimiento positivo en el PIB, pero falta mucho.
No es fácil recuperar todo desde el 2012, que fue destruído por los eeuu y su control financiero mundial.
>>5125,150,094 is round again, what is your point?
>>515Just go the other way.
10058774*0.512
10058774*0.442
10058774*0.046
See if that works for literally any real election result over 1 million
>>501>The comuneros from El Maizal, from where many of those names come from, have always supported Maduro<if i disappear them and they support me then its all good!read as: support me, or else
chavista lairs need to fucking hang. you pink populist shitpeddlers are a stain on socialism. leave latin america alone, stop killing workers and empoverishing people in the name of socialism
>reeeee Maduro is killing comuneros that he puts in ministerial positions.
>despite he could have promoted a restitution of the 1953 constitution where the comuna doesn't exist and erase the laws of comunas reeeee
>those who told me are friends of the the guys in Venezuela that have allied with an actual anti-communist, guaido lover, Cuba hater reeeeee
comical.
>>505basicamente, rezarle al dios mercado. por esa razon los salarios son bajisimos en venezuela
no es algo particular de venezuela tampoco, es algo propio de toda latinoamerica. ningun gobierno latinoamericano ve en el capitalismo un problema, sino ciertas politicas "liberales" en el caso de los populistas, o politicas "populistas" segun los liberales
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfqVHUoDGY0 >Rodney Alvarezsu propio abogado no hace los tramites correspondientes en el tribunal.
http://historico.tsj.gob.ve/decisiones/scon/diciembre/311046-0248-151220-2020-18-0700.HTMLel cual nunca demostró su inocencia y ya cumplió su condena. un malandro, pues.
https://ultimasnoticias.com.ve/noticias/sucesos/ministerio-publico-solicito-libertad-plena-para-rodney-alvarez/I guess Mao was anticommunist for this, or Lenin was also anticommunist for this too, and I guess Raul Castro is also anticommunist.
the only ones not anticommunists are the ones that the pcv support, the actual one who wrote hating Cuba, socialism, supporting guaido, and communism!
>>522PCV no tiene futuro, está viendo cuales aguas son las más someras pero es obvio que no va a sobrevivir ni bajo el chavismo ni bajo un gobierno lolbertario de machado y su séquito, solo va a quedar un remanente inútil de ultras sin ningún poder de convocar.
>cherrypicking
>comparing aes with pink populism
not even trying anymore
chavismo will be buried under the rubble of its own hubris and the strength of the rising working class
>>525> ultrasojalá fueran ultras. la otra vez tuve que iniciar un debate con un zoperútano sobre como el pcv twitero (muy distinto al legal) y el tipo justificó la alianza con el anticomunista enrique marquez, mostrando como odia a Cuba y me dijo textual:
"FIDEL CASTRO ES UN NEO NAZI"
seguro si buscas en tuiter Fidel + castro + neo + nazi, encuentras al carajo. y probablemente me encuentras ;)
le pedí un millón de veces pruebas y nunca las subió. eso es lo que arrastra esa gente.
en fin.
>cherrypickinglmao es cherrypicking
Maduro no se ha tomado una foto con ningún presidente gringo :p
¿quién es el socialista rosa, Mao, Fidel, y Castro?
>>483>todos los gobiernos de la marea rosa son como el de venezuelaya
te lees como el bot ultraderechista genérico de rrss
>>525Tranquilo, mañana es el inicio de la guerra popular prolongada venezolana. ¡30 años, Igualdad Estrategica!
Eso o los 4 gatos del PCV van a hacer el ridiculo de los argentinos y en 100 años estaran como hermanos llorando con los futuros chavistas del siglo XXII sobre como no debimos dejar que el imperialismo se coma como pernil la patria.
O simplemente los eutanizaran por ser los ultritas retrasados que son los herederos caribeños de Tatcher y Hitler.
>>531pero internet me dijo que las elecciones y coso!
¿el pcv entiende lo que les va a pasar si gana la oposición?
>>514 (me)
>>505olvidé subir el que culmina el 2025. El de hasta el 2031 aún no está listo porque están aún los congresos tomando información sobre qué quiere y puede hacerse.
¿por que el hilo latino es tan inactivo comparado a casi todos los demas generales? parece que a la juventud bilingue latina se la comio /pol/
>>533Tantos llorandolo como defensor de democrazy, y que era inocente, cuando se la pasó fingiendo estar enfermo para no ir a la cárcel
>>535Bueno, muchos aún no conocen leftypol, otros andan en lemmygrad y odian este sitio, y otros son retardados polacos de dickscord
Aqui en PR estan dandole duro a la propaganda anti-comunista en estas elecciones y estan llamando hasta a los mas de centro-izquierda
Comunistas y aliados con el regimen de Maduro, Venezuela, etc. y metiendo miedo de que EEUU nos va a quitar todo etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bw1aOzXtwAque opinan de esto?
>>537hace 60 años los imbéciles no se hubieran conformado con sólo propaganda de miedo, sino que eeuu les invirtiera millones. ahora ni millones, y peor, la propaganda es chimba.
en especial porque quien fue represivo en PR fueron los gringos, y bastante.
literal, el escritor René Márquez escribió una obra teatral llamada "La muerte no entrara en palacio" que es una crítica a los cobardes que no siguieron el camino a independizarse de eeuu, y no sólo se le obligó a exiliarse, la obra teatral fue censurada en Puerto Rico.
Que tal soy uno de los unicos anons cubanos en la existencia, preguntenme algo
>>539Porque no pasas la voz que existe este antro en la isla?
No chequeo nada por un mes y me entero que aparte de los incendios forestales brutales en Peru tambien ha muerto Hitler
https://larepublica.pe/politica/2024/09/17/muere-el-congresista-hitler-saavedra-a-los-46-anos-en-un-hotel-de-cusco-228922 >>540>Hitler Saavedrade pinga jajaja
/leftypol lo descubri hace un tiempo atras, conozco pocos cubanos que usen tablones de imagenes en linea, la mayoría de nosotros anda en Telegram u otros lados por ahí, pero se de un chico que usaba algunos tablones del 4chan asi que definitivamente hay algunos kek, lo que perdi contacto con el hace como 4 años. En una de esas ya no vive en Cuba. Quiza podria rallar algunas calles con la direccion de leftypol a ver si llega gente de aqui por curiosidad lol
>>539Como vão as coisas por aí? Aqui no Brasil estamos inalando fumaça de queimadas há duas semanas e fingindo que está tudo bem.
>>542No he oido noticias de Brazil de hace un tiempo, que esta pasando? Grandes protestas? Que estan quemando en que sitios?
Aqui, los dirigentes privatizando y repartiendose el país poquito a poquito, mientras todo en el discurso muy socialista y muy lindo, el pueblo resignado o pensando que la unica solucion es la emigración.
Ultimamente hay afectaciones en el suministro de agua en varias zonas de la Habana, donde vivo…
Do you think Evo is gonna get back in the ballot? The news media I read about it makes it seem like MAS is pretty much split down the middle between Evistas and Arcistas. Hopefully the right in Santa Cruz don’t end up in control of the country because of it.
>>543Se preferir posso escrever em castelhano, camarada.
Quanto a protestos, não, ao contrário, a população vê tudo ruir e fica paralisada, quando protestam são fachos querendo uma teocracia evangélica. Inclusive os tais incêndios florestais não parecem vir só de latifundiários, como bolsonaristas ressentidos, este é o nosso mapa climático quanto a fumaça, estamos respirando fuligem há semanas. Teremos eleições para prefeitos e um dos possíveis vencedores é um literal mafioso ligado aos narco.
Não que Lula não seja melhor que Bolsonaro, é muito melhor, mas ainda assim é bem pouco (para você ver o buraco em que estamos) e o resto da esquerda é completamente resignada.
Eu vi que o setor energético aí recebeu inversão chinesa mas ainda não é o suficiente, é verdade? Como a população vê o futuro do país e dos conflitos atuais, como Israel-Palestina, US-China e Rússia-Ucrânia? Saludos!
Could I get a TLDR on FARC? Seems like narco thugs ruining Communism's reputation due to association. Am I failing for bourgeois lies? They don't seem to act like the groups in the Philippines or India or am I ignorant on that too?
>>547started as a peasants militia when the peasants started farming coca they kept taxing it like other crops and thus got accused of being narcos
How is it going, Argentina comrades. Has Milei's anarcho capitalist approach to beating on old people and starving kids secretly saved Argentina from communism already?
>>549Dale 2 semanas mas jajaja
chicas pónganse las pilas, es una mierda este hilo
¿Cuál es la composición de clase de r/mexico? Son muy anti-amlo/morena.
>>1950780>>546>el país quemandose literalmentecandela es peor de lo que imagine jsjsjjs
>>545En castellano esta bien, aunque algo entiendo del portugues por instinto
Lula es practicamente un social democrata, todos sabemos que esperar de un social democrata,
>Sector energéticoesta mejor la cosa que cuando comenzó el año claro, pero si aun tenemos apagones
>como la poblacion ve el futuroyo veo la poblacion perdida, compañero, entre el trabajo que se pasa día a día, la desidia, el abandono y depresión. Poca voluntad de resolver los problemas, que nosotros mismos los hacemos peores. La mentalidad pequeño burguesa esta matando el país una muerte lenta. Te pongo un ejemplo sabiendo que hay afectaciones, la gente a instalar aire acondicionado, si se joden los transformadores y con eso todo el barrio, nadie piensa en el otro.
Los CDR ya no funcionan, ni hablar de un trabajo voluntario, ahora todo es la MIPYME el dinero y resolver salvese quien pueda o emigrar de aqui.
Una pequeña burguesía que surje entre una clase oligarquica en un partido y gobierno francamente falsos y que se estan repartiendo todo en una especie de lenta transicion a un capitalismo al estilo de lo que paso en la URSS y el campo socialista pero sin colapso.
Francamente desde que Fidel se fue todo esto decae de apoco en la nada.
Oposicion, desorganizada y debil la hay. De una izquierda infantilista, pequeño burguesa e inspirada en corrientes europeas y norteamericanas woke que poco tienen que ver con la realidad del pais.
Luego hay algunos anarquistas y troskistas que me caen muy bien.
Estan los gusanos de siempre, ratas liberales, niñitos libertarios/ancap imbecilitos, y los anexionistas de mierda que quisieran que fueramos basicamente Puerto Rico 2.0 (como si ese país no estuviera en la literal mierda)
La mayoría inmersa en el día a día, soñando que emigrar es la panacea de todos sus males, no se meten en nada ni opinan de nada. Después estan afuera con 3 trabajos como unos perros pretendiendo que viven bien por que pueden comprar unos tenis adidas o algo. Vienen aqui a especular el dinerito ganado y pretender que todo es la maravilla no se si hasta por salud mental jajaja. Cuando la realidad es que estan limpiando pisos y fregando platos.
Mientras hijitos de papi, de los burocratas oligarcas oportunistas que viven del discurso, o de los nuevos ricos, van en carros nuevos y compran en las MIPYME como una verdadera aistocracia, aqui hay gente hurgando en la basura y viviendo de lo que pueda, el pueblo cada vez mas abandonado y el Estado cada vez da menos. Es verdad que los hijos de puta de los Yanquis nos han rejodido la vida, pero estos mismos mierdas que emigran y especulan, y aqui no hablaban ni se metian en nada, allá en Miami son mas politicos que nunca y apoyan al perro hijo de las mil putas mal nacido de Trump, dándosela de patriotas!
Yo ya es que les pondría una bomba a todo el mundo en el carro asere. Tengo mi machete pero bien afilado si es que la olla de presion esta se les llega a salir de control. Patriotas!?
Estos imbeciles del gobierno y sus nuevas politicas economicas, su "perestroika y glassnot" a la cubana como algunos le decimos, es como si estuvieran matando el país a proposito para repartirselo! Eso sí los oligarcas de aquí no van a dejar a la vieja Gusanada histórica cojer nada! jajaja. Ese es el verdadero conflicto.
Patriotas!? Yo no me voy de aqui compañero, no no. Mi tatarabuelo luchó en la independencia con los Mambises y su mamá fue esclava violada por el amo de menor, mi bisabuelo partió sembrando café en oriente y termino con una empresa de construcción que se la dió a la revolución! mi abuelo fue sastre, luchador en la clandestinidad y oficial de las FAR, a mi si hay que enterrarme aqui de pie y con mi machete al lado si quieren cojer mi tierra ninguno de los traidores y mierdas estos…
Mira yo conozco mundos, he vivido fuera, el primero y el tercero, el segundo y el quinto, y no les envidio nada, en las cosas que realmente importan el planeta entero se esta hundiendo en la mierda. Pero aqui no vamos bien.
>Rusia-Ukrania, Israel-Palestina, US-Chinamas una cosa que suena lejana y ajena, geopolitica pura. Si la victoria del bloque Eurasiatico (que siempre creo que será mejor que la de los imperialistas HIJOS DE LA GRAN PUTA DE SU MADRE) nos va a favorecer, aún no se han visto beneficios, pero yo soy de los que tiene esperanza en los BRICS y eso.
En cuanto a mi, llámame Estalinista o reaccionario o que se yo, (no me creo uno) pero creo que estamos así por blandos y por dejarnos penetrar por la influencia liberal (tenemos al imperio literalmente al lado jodiendo). Nunca debimos dejar la linea dura, los fusilamientos, las leyes duras que teniamos, las UMAP, la fuerza de los CDR como organismo de control y movilizacion popular etc. Pero tambien nos mató el culto a la personalidad, pensamos que Fidel sería eterno, y lo que ha venido despues de el es catastrofe tras catastrofe sin dejar nada preparado. Aqui las cosas funcionan no se ni como y de milagro entre sin recursos y los Yanquis que rejoden.
Envidio a los norcoreanos que no se dejaron penetrar nunca, aunque geopoliticamente estan mejor ubicados igual comparados con nosotros.
Hablando de eso como hablaban en un hilo sobre Cuba donde estuve una vez, los Chinos tampoco han hecho ni pinga mucho, con nuestra ubicacion era como para que trataran de hacernos el Taiwan de ellos, supongo que las rencillas y nuestra preferencia por los Sovieticos no se olvidan o no nos tienen mucha confianza o se acobardan con los yanquis (como parece ser con todos menos nosotros, pussies).
Bueno no se que mas escribir, escribo mucho porque aqui hay que luchar y trabajar la vida y no tengo tiempo de andar conectado entonces tengo que ir escribiendo y juntar todo. El que me diga "mucho texto" para el, un machetazo en los huevos lol.
Patria o MUERTE, VENCEREMOS! Mis cojones
Patria y Vida ni pinga!, y si hay alguien del G2 aqui leyendome, me cago en tu madre tambien por dejar que esta mierda se ponga así, yo no le temo a nadie…manga de traidores son todos!
There should be a Partido dos Trabalhadores/Lula flag here
>>554>lula the trojan horseno
>>553Muito esclarecedor, companheiro, que melhores dias possam ser construídos em todo nosso continente. Aqui a gente só consegue informação de Cuba pelos meios oficiais ou de literais gusanas como uma que tem na CNN.
>Mi tatarabuelo luchó en la independencia con los Mambises extremamente BASADO
>>553anon que basado por dios
>>558la 1001 y el plebiscito, es la unica manera valida si queres participar en el electoralismo
Bolivia Morales vs Arce status?
Chile progre reform attempts status?
>>560cuando sale tupamaros parte 2?
>>563el MPP le está regalando el pais al liberalismo y desgastando la herramienta lo ultimo que necesitamos son mas tupas
>>564>>563Agrego a esto, si te identificas como ML, la teoria Arismendista de la Revolución Uruguaya y Democracia Avanzada (de donde se desprende el EDA/1001, el FIDEL y eventualmente lo mejor del FA) es bastante interesante, se podrá discrepar pero el tipo fue muy respetado mismo en congresos de teoria en la URSS
>>564literal, decia "tupamaros" refiriendome a grupos guerrilleros en general (aunque no eran todos iguales) pero ta
>>565no gracias, prefiero a los troskos y la UP
>>565Una característica más de la desviación revisionista de la unión soviética tardía 😢
>T. Nunca ha leído un tratado de economía política socialista >>568Que época consideras la URSS tardía?
Fue bastante antes de la degeneracion que desemboco en perestroika y glasnost
>>567Tenemos bastante troskos aliados, (como el POR posadista lol) aunque en general no tienen presencia, a diferencia de Argentina, la UP no tiene ni una fraccion de frentes ni cercania a las masas ni poder de organización, los banco como aliados y más que a cualquier socdem pero son un rejunte de ultras con relativamente poca incidencia en la realidad material obrera
Ahora, depende tambien de lo que pienses sobre el foquismo y el dimitrovismo, allá vos
>>569
>Que época consideras la URSS tardía? Ya en tiempos de Khrushchev había degeneración.
>>570>>569Igual anon votes lo que votes en la izquierda si es que decidis participar en el electoralismo, el plebiscito de seguridad social (y el de allanamientos nocturnos que nos lo van a clavar gratuitamente) para mi es actualmente mas relevante que la presidencia en cuanto a ganar terreno a favor de la clase obrera
>>571Argie master race everyone.
>>571Yeah that's literally what he said would happen when he took office. He said that the amount of poor people will increase and that working argentines will starve and his bootlickers applauded him because he was being le only honest politician or some shit.
>>562El profesor Amilcar trabaja donde estudio pero nunca me ha dado clase.
>>576The work of socdems and eurocoms in Spain.
keep in mind the socdem party there is called the Spanish Worker's Socialist Party.
>>578Según la interpretación marxista, el bonapartismo se caracteriza por el hecho de que aseguraba a la burguesía la liberación del poder económico frente a una mano de obra industrial cada vez más poderosa, pero le negaba el poder político real, que seguía concentrado en manos del estadista bonapartista.
Sin utilizar el término, Karl Marx describe el fenómeno del bonapartismo en su obra El Dieciocho Brumario de Luis Bonaparte (1852). Lo entiende como la renuncia de la burguesía al gobierno político directo y a la representación política en favor de un gobierno autoritario que les favorezca y apoye su «dominio social». El requisito previo para ello era un equilibrio de poder entre la burguesía y el proletariado, una especie de estancamiento en la lucha de clases. El gobernante bonapartista se apoyaba sociológicamente en el declive de todas las clases, por ejemplo el lumpenproletariado o la masa de campesinos apolíticos, lo que le daba una relativa independencia de la burguesía en el ejecutivo.
Lenin definió el bonapartismo de la siguiente manera: «Poder basado en las maniobras de camarillas militares entre las dos clases y fuerzas opuestas, que más o menos se equilibran».
>>581no me parece que en uruguay haya ese equilibrio; en todo caso hay un desbalance significativo a favor del capital. en el libro sobre bonaparte marx menciona algo más sencillo y es que políticamente la burguesía es
sobria (aburrida, limitada) y tiene que rellenar la imaginación con algo. hoy en día rellenan con
showmanship y esquizofrenia
>>582>esqizofreniamomento salle
>>576This is fucked up. Why can't they celebrate normal Spanish holidays in a normal way, like the one where they force little kids to smoke cigarettes?
EVO V ARCE STATUS?
EVO V ARCE STATUS?
EVO V ARCE STATUS?
What's Claudia going to do about the political assasination problem? Maybe make like a Mexican secret service?
>>553Hijo de su basada madre.
Un post excelente y ma da mucho gusto leerlo pero también se me amarga el corazón por la lucha que les toca. Un abrazo cálido camarada. Hasta la victoria!
>>587prolly nothing outside of some bukele-tier shit like anonymizing judges or whatever
Nosotros en /brg/ estamos discutiendo con la moderación de Leftypol la posible creación de una board exclusiva para América Latina. ¿Qué opinas de la idea?
>>590estaría bien pese a que somos como literalmente 10 personas en este hilo cuando mucho
>>587lmao the Mexican government hasn't even captured the dudes who killed the Ayotzinapa students, which is a massive national scandal they've been trying to ignore for ten years now. Yet another proof of the government, the army and capitalists (cartels are basically illegal enterprises) working together.
>>577that event was organized by "conservative" liberal reactionaries you absolute fucking retard
Paro de transportistas y mercados en Lima ante la ola de extorsiones.
https://larepublica.pe/sociedad/2024/10/10/paro-de-transportistas-10-de-octubre-2024-en-vivo-hoy-quienes-acatan-el-paro-de-hoy-habra-suspension-de-clases-rutas-afectadas-y-ultimas-noticias-del-paro-de-transporte-en-lima-750366El pedido de mano dura no cesa, las proximas elecciones van a estar interesantes
Antauro estuvo en la ceremonia del 97 aniversario del PCP por lo que veo, que potente frente de izquierda se nos vieneSeguimos en pie.
La electricidad ya ha vuelto
>>591yo creo que somos más pero a mí me da paja postear
>>595Fuerza a ti y a tu familia camarada.
>>595Aqui em São Paulo tivemos 5 dias sem eletricidade e a resposta da empresa privada foi "não podemos fazer nada lol".
Impressiona vocês lidarem com furacões com maior facilidade.
Fallecio Gustavo Gutierrez, fundador de la teologia de la liberacion de la iglesia, o la iglesia de los pobres
https://larepublica.pe/politica/actualidad/2024/10/22/fallecio-el-padre-gustavo-gutierrez-fundador-de-la-teologia-de-la-liberacion-261954>Video, clase para los preuniversitarios sobre lo que significaba.Si sirve para que ingresen a la San Marcos, sera bueno para /latam/
Yo creo que la Operación Cóndor alejó a la izquierda
sudamericana de las fuerzas armadas y la verdad es que se necesita de uniformados para cualquier cambio tangible que desafie al poder hegemónico.
La izquierda partidaria tiende a ser liberal mientras que la vía armada queda en vacías revueltas anarquistas.
>>601la mayoría de los ejércitos en sudamerica han asumido su posición como ejércitos de ocupación. prácticamente todos los oficiales de relevancia reciben premios y aumentos de sueldo por hacer cursos en las escuelas del comando sur norteamericano. también tenes que tener en cuenta que ni siquiera brasil tiene un complejo militar industrial propio - en la practica esto significa que los oficiales también están arreglados con el complejo militar industrial de la otan
los partidos participan en la política porque no está la situación para otra cosa. no son los 60 o 70, no existe la misma conciencia política en la gente o el ambiente, vos querés que se acerquen a un ejercito cuya misión es matarlos, cuando ya cuesta mucho acercarse a los sindicatos o simplemente a los trabajadores comunes. tampoco está la unión soviética para venderte armas o mandarte instructores. ésto capaz que no te lo han explicado, pero hablar de violencia no se hace en público (por obvias razones)
>>607https://www.publico.es/internacional/evo-morales-denuncia-desconocidos-dispararon-vehiculo-e-hirieron-chofer.htmlFormer Bolivian President Evo Morales (2006-2019) reported on Sunday that the vehicle transporting him to a radio station, where he hosts his weekend show, was shot at 14 times by unknown assailants, injuring his driver.
Morales explained to the Kawsachun Coca radio station that his car was pursued by two other vehicles carrying the attackers. The chase occurred at 6:25 a.m. local time (10:25 GMT) on the route between Villa Tunari and Lauca Ñ, in the Cochabamba Tropics.
Morales recounted that he noticed two or three trucks following his car, leading his driver to "swerve" off course, though the chase continued. "That’s when I realized it was an organized attack," he said.
"I was shocked, but thankfully we survived," the former leader remarked, saying he counted at least 14 shots.
The incident was recorded in a four-minute video by a woman in the car with Morales, showing part of the ordeal.
"Get down, President! Get down!" Morales's two companions shouted as he tried to alert others by phone to what was happening.
The recording cuts off briefly before Morales mentions that they had to switch vehicles, as the first one had been damaged and had a flat tire from a bullet.
It was then that the passengers realized the driver was bleeding from his head as he honked persistently, trying to get through a high-traffic area on the highway.
Later, the MAS leader opened the window to warn locals they had been shot at, asking them to block the road to stop the pursuers from getting through.
After the attack, Morales accused President Luis Arce’s government, claiming the "attempt to kill him was carried out today" after previous efforts to ruin him politically and legally had failed.
The attack comes as Morales supporters mark two weeks of indefinite road blockades, demanding that the government drop legal charges of human trafficking and statutory rape against Morales, which they see as political persecution.
They are also calling for action on rising food costs, the dollar shortage, erratic fuel supplies, and for respect toward a 2023 MAS congress decision that declared Morales the "sole candidate" for next year’s election.
On Saturday, Bolivia’s Foreign Ministry informed the international community that the protests led by Morales "aim to disrupt the democratic order," affecting stability in the region.
Meanwhile, President Luis Arce replaced top military commanders the previous day, tasking them with preserving internal order and democracy in the country.
>>607>>605>>606Fuck sake. Theres going to be a civil war isn't there?
Evo fucked up. Can't fight from the forests when they're all on fire. shoulda thunk of that before slash and burn tbh.
>>607diganme que el mapache sobrevivio :(
>>611This was posted from an IP in northern Virginia
>>612no, from a working class neighbourhood in the argentinian urban sprawl
>>605Primero ese golpe fallido
Ahora ese intento de magnicidio contra Evo
Y como olvidar la saga croata
Ese Evo tiene mas vidas que un gato, que grande
Van cerrando cada vez mas la via electoral en Perú
https://larepublica.pe/politica/2024/10/31/poder-judicial-declara-ilegal-el-partido-politico-antauro-y-no-podra-participar-en-las-elecciones-2026-2426835<Se declara ilegal la Alianza Nacional de Trabajadores, Agricultores, Universitarios, Reservistas y Obreros (A. N. T. A. U. R. O.)Ahora el Humala chevere ya no podra postular a la presidencia.
>Las leyes actuales establecen que los candidatos al Ejecutivo estén afiliados a un partido al menos desde el 7 de julio pasado. Es decir, ya está fuera de plazo para pasarse a otra organización política con la intención de postularLos recontra tibios van a armar el enésimo frente antifujimorista al parecer
https://larepublica.pe/politica/actualidad/2024/07/20/secretario-general-de-nuevo-peru-enver-leon-ni-con-antauro-humala-ni-con-peru-libre-no-son-partidos-de-izquierda-1570980>No es posible tener un acuerdo político con Antauro Humala, porque no consideramos que es una organización de izquierda, tiene propuestas más bien de índole fascistoide. No es posible tener una alianza política con Perú Libre, de ninguna manera, porque mientras Vladimir Cerrón se declara marxista leninista en la práctica lo que hace es un acuerdo con el fujimorismo para salvaguardar su unidad, junto a Keiko, y trabajar de la mano para copar instituciones. Entonces, de ninguna manera consideramos que son organizaciones de izquierda, y por eso no tenemos por qué dialogar con ambos en estos momentos. No hay un punto de encuentro con ellos y asomar a un proceso unitario. Alistense muchachos que a ver si se llega al 10% entre reformistas eurocomunistas y eurocomunistas reformistas
>>587nothing, it's actually part of the political system
>>614>Explicación materialistaBastión de la clase dominante burguesa blanca y fanática religiosa desde tiempos coloniales debido a la alta fertilidad del suelo en esa región causada por la presencia del eje neovolcánico que propicia temperaturas más templadas y un suelo rico en minerales que favorece la producción agrícola. Por esto mismo esa región es muy preciada por el narco también, que al final no es más que un subconjunto de la burguesía pero que controla empresas ilegales dentro del Estado burgués que actúa de jure en contra y de facto en total complicidad.
Pero obviamente todos esos padrecitos pederastas y viejos blancos no van a trabajar la tierra por ellos mismos, para ello se emplea la mano de obra de las poblaciones indígenas y mestizas locales, a las cuales se les inculca el catolicismo desde niños como una forma de fe ciega que les promete el paraíso después de la muerte incluso si su vida es un infierno de explotación y miseria, lo mismo que hacía el clero en la Rusia zarista.
El movimiento cristero fue justamente la instrumentalización del lumpenproletariado del Bajío como milicias de reacción contra la Ley Calles y a favor de la clase burguesa clerical y blanca, a pesar de que Calles mismo haya sido un simpatizante del fascismo en sus últimos años en el poder.
/brg/ anon aquí, nuestra propuesta para una board latinoamericana fue aprobada por la moderación de Leftypol y será creada próximamente.
>>620Increíble, ojalá tenga éxito
>>556Left "art": soulless derivative consumerist garbage for alienated corpo-golem masses, corn syrup.
Right Art: Ancient traditional POGMAIP widsom channeling latin bodies of experience, a fine taco!
re contra cuckeado todo el espectro político y mentalidad de la gente cuando tengo que escuchar "le esta saliendo el plan a milei" como si todos los problemas estén exactamente igual que antes de la inflación o como si los 90 no hubieran pasado
>WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING IN CUBA/VENEZUELA!?!?!
can someone pls tell me :|
>>624>dropkick no context posters….WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?!?
>>623Te estás dando cuenta del rol crucial de la ideología como falsa consciencia para sostener al capitalismo incluso desde sus estratos obreros más desafortunados. Lee a Marx y a Zizek.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/kevin-carson-when-you-cross-pinochet-with-a-cyberpunk-dystopia?v=1731200320
> That’s what Reason’s Liz Wolfe calls the Honduran “charter cities,” officially known as ZEDEs (Zones for Economic Development and Employment), which were declared illegal in September by the Honduran Supreme Court (“No More Special Little Freedom Zones,”” September 25). The ruling prohibits the creation of new ZEDEs; its effect on existing ones, like Próspera, Ciudad Morazán, and Zede Orquidea, is as yet unknown.
>Wolfe describes such charter cities as “special economic economic zones that are still bound by criminal law but able to create their own civil codes.” And again: “they get to set their own laws and regulations and typically choose to create more business-friendly conditions with less taxation.”
>Reason — and more specifically Reason’s Brian Doherty — has been shilling for these “special little freedom zones” since not long after a right-wing coup regime came to power in 2009. Doherty quotes an article Bryan Caplan wrote for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation:
< “A charter city begins on empty land,” he said. “It can only grow by voluntary migration of workers and investors. If no one chooses to relocate, they’re no worse off than they would have been if the charter city had never existed.”
>But that so-called “empty land” bears some looking into. Honduras, Lauren Carasik writes at Foreign Policy — like many other places in the Third World — has long been characterized by irregular or informal land titles not legally registered or recognized by the central government.
< Ortiz says that he has resided on the land in the community of Playa Blanca on Zacate Grande Island, off of Honduras’ west coast, for decades. The problem is that he doesn’t have a title to it, leaving him no recourse to the wall. His quandary is a common one: approximately 80 percent of the country’s privately held land is either untitled or improperly so according to a 2011 USAID report.
>Writers like Hernando de Soto have argued that this lack of formal legal title, and the certainty and predictability, the ability to legally protect titles and enter into contract, that go with it, are a major reason for continued underdevelopment. De Soto sees the formalization of informal land titles as an important step toward prosperity.
>The devil lies in the details. There are two ways to formalize customary or informal land claims — from the bottom up, and from the top down. Consider, for example, the 17th century English “land reform” after the Restoration of Charles II. As Christopher Hill argued, Parliament could regularize titles from the bottom up by abolishing feudal titles, fees, and rents and formally recognizing the peasant cultivators as the legal owners of the land they occupied and worked. Or, acting from the top down, it could instead abolish the feudal obligations of the landed classes and the customary rights of their peasant tenants, and transform them into fee simple owners, i.e. landlords in the modern capitalist sense — thereby turning peasant cultivators into simple tenants at will with no right to the land. Unsurprisingly Parliament — overwhelmingly dominated by the landed nobility and gentry — chose the latter course. In Christopher Hill’s words, “feudal tenures were abolished upwards only, not downwards.”
>Interestingly enough, leftist president Manuel Zelaya — the one who was overthrown in the 2009 coup — had, prior to his overthrow, been working on a land reform that would have regularized peasants’ informal and customary claims to the land they were working, and given them formal legal title. That wasn’t the kind of regularization the landed oligarchy of Honduras — any more than that of 17th century England — wanted. >>626>y a Zizekno voy a leer un agente de la CIA, gracias
>>626ya lei lo suficiente zizek para ver detras de la cortina
>>628Con esa clase de ad hominems no se puede más que convertirse en un pseudomarxista filosóficamente incompetente, gracias por evidenciar que no tienes un interés real en la crítica despiadada de todo lo existente y prefieres conformarte con un socialismo idealista y dogmático. Eres lo que Engels tanto criticaba.
>>630Entonces sabes que la ideología no es un mecanismo que nos impide mirar la realidad, sino que moldea lo que percibimos como realidad en sí. En otras palabras, lo concreto síntesis de determinaciones de Marx es moldeado por ese proceso intermedio de la ideología durante el análisis de determinaciones abstractas.
>>631fa, ya entiendo porque le va mal a la izquierda, es porque no han entendido que
<lo concreto síntesis de determinaciones de Marx es moldeado por ese proceso intermedio de la ideología durante el análisis de determinaciones abstractas.¿vos hablas así en la vida real? leé un libro de verdad cuando puedas, que estás quedando mal. de onda te lo digo
>>632Lee bien, idiota. Eso es algo que se concluye tanto de leer a Zizek como a Marx, no vas a entender tal tesis sin leer a ambos. Leer no es tomar al pie de la letra lo afirmado, nuevamente, no estás ejerciendo un ejercicio crítico con lo que lees. Si la ideología moldea lo concreto síntesis de determinaciones (lo que Zizek llama realidad, aunque para Marx no sería de esta forma) entonces ésta actúa durante el proceso de análisis necesariamente, es decir, al examinar todas y cada una de las determinaciones abstractas de lo concreto representado (que para Marx sí sería la realidad). Esto es considero yo, evidente, y de hecho poco relevante, pero es algo tan básico que me sorprende que no entiendan. La verdadera cuestión es cómo actúa la ideología en el proceso de análisis y síntesis, que es un problema considero, en gran medida ontológico.
La tarea del filósofo es relacionar lo universal con lo universal y relacionar tesis entre sí. El marxista no es necesariamente filósofo, pero el entendimiento del marxismo sí exige una competencia y preparación filosófica, no fanatismo por regimenes políticos y boogeymans ideológicos, que de eso ya hay de sobra.
>¿vos hablas así en la vida real? ¿A qué crees que me dedico, tarado? Que tal vez mi post haya evidenciado tu falta de conocimientos y por ende insultado tu endeble ego de pseudomarxista no quiere decir que no esté diciendo algo.
>>633¿probaste esperar a tu cumpleaños número 18 antes de postear?
Solo quiero decir que todo el que no este de perfecto acuerdo con mi corriente ideologica es un gusano y un traidor de clase. Saludos.
>>634¿Probaste formarte un mínimo en filosofía antes de venir a un tablón marxista?
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